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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 24, 2009, 06:13:37 PM
I know the STUDY site from the old board. But for me its not easy to read. First its not my native language and sec. Im confused over all the things he/she/they wrote.  :?
Ive posted a YT Video in the Vidhoax section. Perhaps its important for some here, perhaps its nothing.   :?:

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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 24, 2009, 10:19:29 PM
This is so confusing.  Here is information on the site:

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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 24, 2009, 10:50:45 PM
Well, check this out:

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4:00 - 4:45   Tim Simkin, NH……………………   …… .”Pre-Existence. Michael against Lucifer”
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There are some interesting titles.

So some members saw this site on the old forum, it is not a coincidence?... cause if it is, it' a huuuuuge one (considering the names and style of writing). Oh well, i guess nothing strange with pastor posting on Michael Jackson hoax sites =) I've just seen chief coroner FB page, where he's mocking MJ's songs while describing his situation on June 25.... can it get any crazier....
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 04:10:20 PM
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And now? What's the difference?
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 06:55:16 PM
I'm lost....what does this S.T.U.D.Y.  have to do with Michael at all?
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 07:07:12 PM
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I'm lost....what does this S.T.U.D.Y.  have to do with Michael at all?

Nothing at all, it seems!

When I started to read the TIAI revealed threads I was like, 'ok, this makes a lot of sense'...but as I was approaching the end, i.e., parts 8/9, I got this weird feeling that something wasn't right. Like, what's this person's agenda? I had the suspicion that he/she wanted to use us and our love for MJ towards the fulfilment of their motives...In my opinion, it is now clear that this is indeed the intention behind TIAI...

Thank you MJJLives for this excellent find!
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December 25, 2009, 07:17:12 PM
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And now? What's the difference?

Well, i guess it doesn't make any difference, it's clear that everyone has already made up their minds about TIAI and is gonna stick with their opinions. Personally, I was just curious to know who this man behind the curtain may be, what kind of personality this man (or people) should have to invent a site with a thousand of redirections and build up such a theory... I thought perhaps this original site would be interesting to explore, but it seemed like a very strage page to me, while the TIAI thing was worked out very clearly (despite the first impression=)
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~A serious face is not yet an indication of intellect. All stupid things in the world are done with that exact expression. Smile, gentlemen, smile!~  

Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 07:50:22 PM
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
I'm lost....what does this S.T.U.D.Y.  have to do with Michael at all?

Nothing at all, it seems!

When I started to read the TIAI revealed threads I was like, 'ok, this makes a lot of sense'...but as I was approaching the end, i.e., parts 8/9, I got this weird feeling that something wasn't right. Like, what's this person's agenda? I had the suspicion that he/she wanted to use us and our love for MJ towards the fulfilment of their motives...In my opinion, it is now clear that this is indeed the intention behind TIAI...

Thank you MJJLives for this excellent find!

What do you think are their "motives"?
I COULD of course all end up with them saying, Michael won't come back unless each soldier of L.O.V.E. pays this or that.
It could.  And that would be the worst case, as there are always people who are easily manipulated - even among us.
And I wouldn't be surprised, if TS revealed his source of information was God, which I - as a completely non-religious person - would be suspicious about. But I would accept that as well, as I am also open to the possibility, that special people have other "channels" for information. Who am I to rule out the possibility that there is a god communicating with certain human beings. Probably Michael had a similar source ;-)
All his posts (including the early 999-posts from MJHD, where I saw the S.T.U.D.Y. logo) were so very well researched and elaborate, that I believe he is at least a beLIEver and a MJ fan ;-)
Let's see, what happens...

However, it doesn't change the message - Michael's message - for me. There's nothing wrong about the message itself and it doesn't hurt to publicly be willing to spread L.O.V.E. and show our support, whoever pointed it out and made the stone roll.
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 08:22:53 PM
What really bothers me in regards with the Army of L.O.V.E. hoax-wise is that this theory assumes MJ would rely his comeback on several hundred (perhaps thousand at best) people who believe he's alive and leave aside millions of his loyal fans who are mourning the loss of him up to this day - those who keep coming to Farest Lawn, those who make tributes, those who are "making that change" even though they think MJ has passed. He really loved all fans so tenderly and genuinely, that assuming believers would be some kind of special for him in this 'mission' means we're not talking about MJ here. Really.

Another thing, if TIAI reveals truly Michaels' intentions and speaks out for him for he cannot open up at the moment, i wonder how come none of the insiders that we follow dropped any clue on December 21, just to suppot the fact that TIAI is really coming from him. I can imagine this would have seriously fueled the whole thing an created much more trust in it!
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 08:26:36 PM
Quote from: "Ninanina"
Quote from: "dontmakeitfactual"
Quote from: "fordtocarr"
I'm lost....what does this S.T.U.D.Y.  have to do with Michael at all?

Nothing at all, it seems!

When I started to read the TIAI revealed threads I was like, 'ok, this makes a lot of sense'...but as I was approaching the end, i.e., parts 8/9, I got this weird feeling that something wasn't right. Like, what's this person's agenda? I had the suspicion that he/she wanted to use us and our love for MJ towards the fulfilment of their motives...In my opinion, it is now clear that this is indeed the intention behind TIAI...

Thank you MJJLives for this excellent find!

What do you think are their "motives"?
I COULD of course all end up with them saying, Michael won't come back unless each soldier of L.O.V.E. pays this or that.
It could.  And that would be the worst case, as there are always people who are easily manipulated - even among us.
And I wouldn't be surprised, if TS revealed his source of information was God, which I - as a completely non-religious person - would be suspicious about. But I would accept that as well, as I am also open to the possibility, that special people have other "channels" for information. Who am I to rule out the possibility that there is a god communicating with certain human beings. Probably Michael had a similar source ;-)
All his posts (including the early 999-posts from MJHD, where I saw the S.T.U.D.Y. logo) were so very well researched and elaborate, that I believe he is at least a beLIEver and a MJ fan ;-)
Let's see, what happens...

However, it doesn't change the message - Michael's message - for me. There's nothing wrong about the message itself and it doesn't hurt to publicly be willing to spread L.O.V.E. and show our support, whoever pointed it out and made the stone roll.

In fact I do agree with most of what you stated, and really, I very much hope to be wrong about this. Sure, is never a bad thing to be reminded of what Michael's message was/is, or even to spread it around. And yes, the research and work behind's S.T.U.D.Y's post is extraordinary. Yet, I do not think that he is a believer or a fan. It's my instinct telling me this...I keep an open mind, and I've been on the fence on this once since the very beginning. But now I'm more inclined to think that  TS's motives are not so MJ related.  

In their posts there was, in my opinion, just a tad too much emphasis on NWO/Illuminati/Conspiracies/End of the world, etc. The context of our 'investigation' has room for these subjects to be explored, as they have been. But I personally feel a little uncomfortable when everything around us is seen as a conspiracy. I have researched the subject, as I am indeed very interested in it, and do believe in some of the most well known conspiracies, and other. But why are conspiracy theorists not taken seriously by the general public? Partly, because some people don't want these things talked about; but also because NOT everything is a conspiracy. Some are not solidly researched and I, for one, need more evidence that the NWO actually exists before I fall for the whole idea. Gosh, I digress! So sorry! In short, Ithink that TS want to make use of Michael's army of "believers" to spread their views on NWO, among others things. And don't get me wrong, I do see all the things that are wrong with this world, it makes me sick. And I do believe in the power of the "people", I firmly believe the mass can do a lot more than it does.But I found their views a little too apolitical....that's just me, maybe I am wrong, and in fact I'd like to be!
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 25, 2009, 08:28:37 PM
Quote from: "tinker_bell"
What really bothers me in regards with the Army of L.O.V.E. hoax-wise is that this theory assumes MJ would rely his comeback on several hundred (perhaps thousand at best) people who believe he's alive and leave aside millions of his loyal fans who are mourning the loss of him up to this day - those who keep coming to Farest Lawn, those who make tributes, those who are "making that change" even though they think MJ has passed. He really loved all fans so tenderly and genuinely, that assuming believers would be some kind of special for him in this 'mission' means we're not talking about MJ here. Really.
!


Well said, you're very right.

Also, I think the whole idea of MJ faking his death to put his message across is pretty far fetched. That's why I smell a rat here...
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 26, 2009, 11:19:24 AM
Don't you find some sect-related patterns in this enterprice? A "leader/guru" who has possesd a certain level of knowledge drawing attention of "followers". Step by step, softly, gently. Messages, hints, clues. The bait is vailed. A group of mourning people waiting for someone's comeback seems to be na easy catch. I think we should be careful, shouldn't we?
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 26, 2009, 12:14:49 PM
Don't let anyone fool you. You are your own person and no matter how much you love Michael, nothing or no one can nor has a right to take advantage of you in any way.

Try to remain neutral towards new sites.
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 26, 2009, 12:44:25 PM
The only aspects I want to add are some of my thoughts.
MJ provided a full table for too many people already.
No matter how decent the motivation but getting MJ fans hooked on the "we are the better population in this country" is way too narrow IMO.

I said several times that the subjects are far too much referring to U.S. topics only.
Michael is global and even given the potential influence of some leaders in Federal Reserve, NWO etc., this is neglecting the upcoming powers of China, India and Russia so much that IMHO the originators of the manipulations are U.S. citizens that have never been abroad.

NWO has already been discussed when I was little, so that's "old shoes".
We are so free that we are even free to believe we are getting enslaved.
Free will and mind and spirit have in the long run overcome any dictatorship until today.
And a last thing: if we want to think about the bad in this world, we only need to open tabloids that are pure negativity, hidden behind a smile (must think of Badman's Joker right now).
We get acquainted and used to negativity to an extent that it has become really difficult to give any value to positive news.
This is much more dangerous than money in some hands.
Money cannot buy my mind. But permanent intruison of negativity can.

So as I said before - take the redirections as a positive chance of self-education and a start-up for research in the web. But to be honest, I am much more thrilled of the google video with Fox news on Elvis's hoax than by any JFK conspiracy. As long as the result of news on JFK conspiracy is that you feel helpless and run to some preachers who keep saying "come to me lost sheep or you will not be saved" - sorry but here I am not willing to follow.
As long as the result of the conspiracy news is that we get aware of the potential of desinformation out there and get our feet in movement and do something positive about it (in our own small environment that we can influence) - then I am with you and will accompany.

But to be put under stress (if you don't contribute, you are a bad guy and less loved), to be harassed (you have to do this or you are bad guy), to be manipulated (you will not be one of the selected souls if you don't participate) - sorry guys, but this sounds so much of "the end of the world is near" and Jehova's Witness attempts to select the lost sheep and here I say again this is NOTHING that Michael was telling us to date.
This negative causing fear, anger, confusion and stress is not originating from Michael.
NO WAY.
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Re: S.T.U.D.Y. - A little insight?
December 26, 2009, 01:21:51 PM
I personally think we gave too much credit to TIAI because we were so sad and anguished about all of this that this TIAI think just mixed up our feelings.

Because, let's be honest: TS said he/she has his/her own sources. This made most of us think that maybe it could have some connection with MJ. So we gave it too much credit.

This NWO thing is not right. Do you really think if such thing could really exist, there would be a wikipedia page about this? There is conspiracy theories aabout pretty much everything. And most of them sound pretty convincing.

I was watching TIAI. Just to give an example, when there was that redirecting about Titanic, Lady Di, etc, I did a little research about Titanic theories. The one I found was about two ships, and the company would've sank the ship on purpose because of insurance, etc. The facs there SOUND pretty convincing and it doesn't mean this is real.

The only positive thing about TIAI is the Army of LOVE. And believing TIAI or not, I wanna make that change. But my change is DEFINITELY not about being sitted in front of this laptop reading about conspiracy theories, this I can really say.

Michael never talked about politics. His message was about love, children and helping people, healing the world. But I NEVER saw him talking about such things. So, yeah, I think there is someone taking advantage of the situation to convince people about these crazy theories and do religious preaching.

And besides looking for REAL evidences (news, TMZ, Murray, DVD, and far more) people are going on the wrong way.
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