Great evidence that DD is MJ

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Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 24, 2009, 09:29:22 PM
I hope I am not double posting this. If so, I apologize in advance.

[youtube:9ttc2jlj]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLBsd72jB8[/youtube:9ttc2jlj]
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 24, 2009, 09:38:42 PM
very good..i havent seen this one before..excellent!
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 24, 2009, 11:09:59 PM
Wow I loved this one. Thank you :D
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 12:00:24 AM
Great video.
I've never been 100% sure about whether MJ was DD, but I've never said it's not at all possible. The voice is pretty convincing to me and the face shape does appear to match up.
Michael's totally capable of doing this if he really wanted to..
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 01:47:22 AM
But where's the video?? :?

ummm ok i see it now lol
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 09:49:18 PM
Thanks for posting this.  Looks like Michael to me.  People have said that Michael wouldn't have done that to his burn victim friend, appearing as him on LKL.  But, what if DD gave his permission and said, "go for it, MJ."  I think that is very plausible.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 10:04:22 PM
This dosnt convince me. What convinces me is the backstage photo of DD in Larry King where he stands in a hallway with his mega huge shoulderpads. Abnormal size for any adult male. I wish I could find that pic.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 10:13:20 PM
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This dosnt convince me. What convinces me is the backstage photo of DD in Larry King where he stands in a hallway with his mega huge shoulderpads. Abnormal size for any adult male. I wish I could find that pic.

Pics are on here:  http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/11 ... ve-on.html
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 10:15:19 PM
Hey, this is a great video, pretty impressive :)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 25, 2009, 10:18:30 PM
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This dosnt convince me. What convinces me is the backstage photo of DD in Larry King where he stands in a hallway with his mega huge shoulderpads. Abnormal size for any adult male. I wish I could find that pic.

Pics are on here:  http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/11 ... ve-on.html

Now thats what Im talkin' about.  :lol:
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:00:05 AM
That was cool.  It was neat to see in the credits that Steven King worked with him on Ghost!  I LIVE near Steven King...Do you think MJ ever went to his house?  WOW can you immagine that!
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:02:46 AM
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This dosnt convince me. What convinces me is the backstage photo of DD in Larry King where he stands in a hallway with his mega huge shoulderpads. Abnormal size for any adult male. I wish I could find that pic.

Pics are on here:  http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/2009/11 ... ve-on.html

Now thats what Im talkin' about.  :lol:
WOOOOAAH-dang the shoulder pads! HAHAHA! Sorry I am late on seeing that! :D
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:08:02 AM
but if MJ was Dave Dave during the Memorial, then  he could not have been the blond lady too..?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 02:24:43 AM
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but if MJ was Dave Dave during the Memorial, then  he could not have been the blond lady too..?

Damn.... now I'm really confused... I'm glad you pointed this out.  :?  :?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 06:24:39 AM
I never knew Dave Dave was at the public memorial? I thought he was only at the burial.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 06:40:37 AM
I wouldn't be surprised if Michael kept changing disguises.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 10:31:45 AM
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I never knew Dave Dave was at the public memorial? I thought he was only at the burial.

when was he on LKL, the burial or memorial??
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 10:32:32 AM
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I never knew Dave Dave was at the public memorial? I thought he was only at the burial.

when was he on LKL, the burial or memorial??
I thought burial. But I am not sure
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 10:38:07 AM
does anyone have a video of Dave Dave (the real one) walking and talking? Those shoulder pads are something else. But most of all its the voice..its Michaels voice and mannerisms and words.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 10:41:00 AM
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I never knew Dave Dave was at the public memorial? I thought he was only at the burial.

when was he on LKL, the burial or memorial??
I thought burial. But I am not sure

He was on the burial. Larry King Live was broadcasted in August.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 10:55:57 AM
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when was he on LKL, the burial or memorial??[/quote]
I thought burial. But I am not sure[/quote]

He was on the burial. Larry King Live was broadcasted in August.[/quote]


k thanks.! that makes me feel better  :P
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 10:58:24 AM
great!..i always believed that MJ is the Dave dave in LKL.. :)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 11:34:03 AM
LKL Dave Dave = MJ  :D
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:08:39 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Michael kept changing disguises.
course he would change disguises otherwise it would be to risky with people like us around he is always one step ahead ;)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:34:48 PM
Sorry, I am not convinced. Video says "leaving clues for everyone to see". What then would be the point to tha hoax if you want all to know it is a hoax? If we. his fans can be convinced by this then so can the people who do not like him and if he had enemies them too. He may as well announce he is not dead.
there is a certain roughness to Daves voice that Michael does not have. Also you can superimpose most faces like this onto each other and they will be similar. I honestly cannot believe it is Michael.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:47:16 PM
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This dosnt convince me. What convinces me is the backstage photo of DD in Larry King where he stands in a hallway with his mega huge shoulderpads. Abnormal size for any adult male. I wish I could find that pic.

I agree.  Even when you  notice DD's shoulders while doing the interview, it doesn't seem proportional.  But, MJ actually had very broad shoulders.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:53:46 PM
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I hope I am not double posting this. If so, I apologize in advance.

[youtube:5a78f8ei]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akLBsd72jB8[/youtube:5a78f8ei]

The real Dave Dave is reported to have bluish grey eyes.  I even think that the one on the Leeza show was MJ too.  Perhaps testing this out earlier given that the hoax was probably in the works for a very long time?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 12:56:10 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Michael kept changing disguises.


absolutely.  mj has been a master of disguises for a long time.  i hope he continues to experiment with them and is having a good time being out and about.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 01:09:12 PM
How about this?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 01:10:19 PM
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 26, 2009, 01:42:07 PM
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I wouldn't be surprised if Michael kept changing disguises.


absolutely.  mj has been a master of disguises for a long time.  i hope he continues to experiment with them and is having a good time being out and about.
yeah! so people in california, keep your eyes open for someone who looks A BIT like Mike! :D
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 11:51:29 AM
DontBelieveTheHype, Can I ask you how you know Dave Dave was standing "backstage" at Larry King Live studio. I remember seeing on YouTube footage of "DD" walking through a foyer somewhere. Is this what you are referring to?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 05:49:25 PM
Ok here we go again!
I am not saying that dave dave on LKL is Michael but!
The real dave dave is at least 195cm (6.30f) tall.
Why, just look at the pictures of the real dave dave and his mom.

http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/50603 ... e-Pictures

How do we know his mom is about 180cm.
Just look at this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YkKWzG0 ... re=related

Look for the pictures mom and michael.
She is a bit taller then michael.
So the conclusion is, the dave dave that walks into the studio can't be the real dave dave!
Who is he?
Let's remember the song....
Who is it....is it a friend of mine?
Could be....;)

And for the Dave Dave on the bold and beautiful and liza?
Well that's a little dave!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCp_5t36 ... 8F&index=6

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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 07:39:43 PM
I know that MJ is pretty talented,

But do you think he could do all that make - up him self?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:03:07 PM
arabian nights, MJ would have a professional make up effects artist do the prosthetics, someone of the calibre such as Rick Baker. Rick Baker worked with MJ on "Ghosts" and "Thriller" I believe. This is a detailed, professional job not something one could do alone. As for the Dave Dave Myspace video, I think this is solely the real Dave Dave. At the start of the message DD speaks how I think he really sounds then  in the latter part of the video DD sounds a bit like MJ with a softer voice coming through. This may have been a deliberate ploy to confuse the listener? Or maybe that's just how the real DD talks.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:08:35 PM
Hi thanks for the reply, i don't believe that MJ could do the make up - it would be impossible to self make up at this level.

The voice is strange to me - DD did sound like MJ.

We have to ask the obvious, you have answered, the answer is as i thought, so this thread is closed.

DD on LK is not MJ.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:09:08 PM
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Check this out....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0W5W8KN ... re=related

''the time has come to an interesting point'' - his messages are very cryptic.  :?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:09:48 PM
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DontBelieveTheHype, Can I ask you how you know Dave Dave was standing "backstage" at Larry King Live studio. I remember seeing on YouTube footage of "DD" walking through a foyer somewhere. Is this what you are referring to?

Not sure, I only saw one pic and assumed it was from LKL. You can see the photo one page 1 of this thread where YourLoveIsMagical posted it.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:19:39 PM
arabian nights, Sorry I think you have misunderstood my last post. I am saying the video with the three eyes for want of a better description is the real Dave Dave. This is a separate individual from the disguised "Dave Dave" who appeared on Larry King Live in September. I believe LKL "DD" is MJ impersonating/acting the persona/part of his friend DD.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:24:06 PM
You have seen Ghosts, facial prosthetics takes a lot of effort, and for hours.

MJ could not do this by himself, you would need professional specialist make up artists.

Have you any explanation - now for thinking DD is MJ?

We have to ask the questions?

So that we can truly focus.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:30:04 PM
DontBelieveTheHype, Thank you for your reply. The footage in the foyer with "DD" may well be CNN studios although there is no evidence to suggest it is.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:38:40 PM
arabian nights, Could I be so blunt and ask you if you have read all the Dave Dave posts on this forum? If you're interested in my viewpoint I have written quite a few posts on DD. If you read them and still want to discuss DD I will be more than happy to. It's just that I feel a bit like Groundhog Day repeating my thoughts although it is my specialist subject so to speak.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:45:26 PM
Since you are getting personal i will check out your postings, since it is your specialist topic.

we are all entitled to our views and comments.

Be mindful of your tone!

Thank you.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:49:35 PM
arabian nights, Excuse me, I am trying to be helpful. I'm sorry if the"tone" is displeasing to you, it certainly is not my intention.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:54:20 PM
Ok for my homework, can you cut and paste the links to your most important comments, because they may be in more than one place.

It will make the process quicker.

I dont think we are that far apart - i have that feeling.

but lets see.

ok - no probs
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:56:37 PM
chappie, I've always believed it was MJ in disguise as DD. In my ealier post on this thread my query to another poster was the location that "DD" was walking through, not whether it was MJ in disguise or not.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 08:59:49 PM
So we are at odds then
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:03:50 PM
when i saw the morphing vids on you tube i thought yes that was MJ but i have changed my view, the back up needed - surely that can not be right.

IF YOUR RIGHT WHY DO THAT - TO LAUGH AT US ALL -WHY
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:07:18 PM
arabian nights, Well I believe MJ disguised himself as DD on LKL on September 3rd. If we are at odds so be it. The world as we know it won't end. Is it important to you that we agree?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:09:13 PM
arabian nights, When you speak of "back up" do you mean the support MJ must have needed to pull this off?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:13:50 PM
Not at all,  I have read so much as to the reasons for the "death", the need to rest etc, for one, and if your going to dress up as your friend and go an telly, it does not make logical sense, when so much is at risk by doing so.

i really think we have to look at this from all aspects. falsely stating that your dead is a serious matter and has serious conseqences, so i think to myself why would you do that? what would be the purpose?

As i said i have seen the vid and i was so was sold, i heard the mixing of the voices and yes i was so there with it, i now that the artists can do amazing things, especially in films but to come on the LK show and it is not April fools day - dont get it...
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:19:05 PM
The make up, is not just facial, surely he would need at least one person?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:23:37 PM
Some of the theories are, that he needed to rest, he  could not do the 50 shows, he was at risk, it was something serious, all scare and fear.

him showing up at the funeral as DD doing a talk show as DD or showing up as blonde lady or white hat man, does not fit in with those hoax theories - I don't think.

Thats taking a practical joke too far.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:25:29 PM
arabian nights, MJ has not stated he is dead. Other people have. MJ is an actor. I do not know MJ's reasons for this. I can guess, imagine, listen to other people and their theories but who really knows at this point. I'm sure one day it will all become clear. Something like this has not been done before using live media to conduct this spectacle. It is so complex and thought provoking on so many levels.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:32:30 PM
Cmon guys of course this guy its not Michael jackson use the comon sense please first MJ hate´s the interviews he really hate it, and second one why whe would thake the risk??? NO WAY¡¡¡
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:37:39 PM
It is true that MJ has not said that he is dead. (well the saying is that dead men can't talk - or something similar)

But if he is alive and is dressing up then he has allowed us all to believe that he is dead, hence the hoax if he is alive ( i hope he is).

He is a great entertainer. But this is Global, with big corporations, big expensive lawyers involved, many billions of fans crying and loving this man, spending money on all sorts to remember him in a recession.

I can't believe that MJ being so sweet, caring that much for so many would mock us by dressing up.

If he is ill and needed to step off the world stage and semi retirement was not an option or his life or something was at risk then okay i can see that, to go into hiding.

But to do a non essential bit of dressing up?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:38:09 PM
Garvell, One is using common sense, that is why I have reached the conclusion that MJ did appear as DD on LKL. High achievers such as MJ are known for taking risks. Appearing on LKL was a way to let his fans know he is alive and well. Less astute individuals would not realize the deliberate clues in the message and therefore for most people MJ is dead.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:40:55 PM
talk me through it, why, the motive, what do you think the motive is for MJ dressing up on the world stage as DD?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 09:57:23 PM
arabian nights, You maybe don't know this but where I am it is 2:50am. I should be asleep. MJ as DD is getting his thoughts and feelings across using his friend's persona. What "DD" said applied to MJ as well as the real DD that is why it is so clever. He "killed two birds with one stone". MJ is not mocking anyone. The internet is at most people's disposal. I only found out about the hoax by accidentally discovering hoax videos on YT.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 27, 2009, 10:10:03 PM
arabian nights, I in no way feel MJ has mocked anyone. If anything MJ has been on the receiving end of mockery for a good portion of his life. The truth of this situation is out there, it is for us to discover what that truth is. I believe and trust MJ in everything he does. I did not feel anger when I discovered this may be all set up. I was relieved that MJ did not really die. I think it's the best thing ever. MJ is such a inspiring person and a genius to boot.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 04:36:08 AM
Hi, thanks for your posting.

I agree that MJ has had to put up with and successfully defended himself against accusations and media stuff. I am with you there.

But you have not answered the point.

In the backdrop of the assumption of death, when he has been declared as having passed/dead by his family, business associates, official websites, state officials, acknowledged by Obama, why within weeks would he spend hours in make-up on his face, head and hands, disguise part of his voice and go on LKL and attend the funeral?

What would be the motivation to do that?

You believe that he is alive as i do, you believe that he would take this amount of effort (hours in disguising himself and changing his voice to some effect - thinking about his responses, risking exposure, anything could have happened, make up malfunction) but why, what  would be his  motivation.

Let me know why you think he would do this. It is i think important to the investigation that we are all on.

I understand that you may be uncomfortable about answering, it is not comfortable asking these questions.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 04:55:20 AM
With regard to the mockery issue, maybe too emotive a word, so lets get rid of it.

But MJ did have throughout his career great love and fame, celebrity, he even compared the love he received with the love other celebrities received. Lets be proportional, there were huge highs, he was in in 1980's and the 1990's the greatest pop star, and these fame seeking/ money grabbing liars, were a horrible distraction to the genius that was and is MJ.

Mike largely was a god fearing person took spiritual matters seriously, largely i would say, because no one is perfect and we all have lapses, we are human and subject to emotion and weaknesses.

During the accusations he had support of his fans and that i am sure helped him. After he was vindicated, he was documented in Ireland having meetings and discussing career proposals, in the US he was also seen out and about. Always from what i have seen, his sweet self, not bitter not twisted. that's amazing, the forgiveness.

He has acted with strength, been very noble, he has to me taken the higher road, he has carried himself with a lot of control, of intregity. That is incredibly admirable. He has always shown respect and been humble.

I know he has a fun loving side, but this is not that.

This news was global, every one in shock, crying, the hunger for information, in the hope that this was not true, the raw emotions of fans, camping out, dancing and celebrating, the tributes, the love, the constant news clips, fans buying anything to be closer to him, for him to be there again.

Why in this backdrop -  of grief - would you appear on LKL, with the risk of a malfunction, risk exposure?

The conduct you are suggesting is out of character, and would involve professional make - artists who would have had spent hours transforming his face, hear and hands, he would have had to practice voice, etc, as i have said before in this backdrop - what would be the motive for appearing on LKL and the funeral ?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 05:28:37 AM
DD on LKL talked about himself, his name, his father the terrible ordeal with great passion, he talked about his friendship, there was great humanity, it was a televised eulogy.

Why do you think that DD would not want to do this for himself?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 10:48:59 AM
arabian nights, Sorry for not answering the point to your satisfaction.I feel like I have failed the exam i.e. not answering the key points. By the way, I do say this with a smile on my face just so we know what the tone of this discussion is.  :) As for motivation, I can only surmise why MJ is doing what he is doing. Maybe it is a "comeback" through the medium of film? Doing something that has not been done before? Or perhaps MJ is trying to teach the world a valuable lesson about the media and its distortion of the truth. Or something I couldn't possibly have thought of? Or a combination of differing factors? I am not uncomfortable answering any questions. It's just that I do not have all the answers. Maybe MJ felt the only way to get his message heard and understood was for it to come from someone else? As for the real Dave Dave not appearing on LKL to do this message, maybe it didn't matter which "DD" it was. What mattered was the content of the message. Sometimes people do things out of character, we are all human after all. As for appearing on LKL and risking a wardrobe malfunction, surely the show would have been pre recorded. I have no evidence that either of the DDs spoke at the funeral/burial as we did not see televised pictures.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 12:01:45 PM
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Thanks for posting this.  Looks like Michael to me.  People have said that Michael wouldn't have done that to his burn victim friend, appearing as him on LKL.  But, what if DD gave his permission and said, "go for it, MJ."  I think that is very plausible.

Thanks for posting the video.  Liberian Girl HeeHee you made a good point. MJ is a gentleman and I am sure he asked DD permission. I believe it's possible for MJ to be DD. I noticed how Mieko was acting along side him. Mieko didn't choke up once at losing his best friend. I guess not if your best friend is still alive and sitting right beside you. Keep the Faith!  ;)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 03:36:08 PM
Its good to talk i enjoy the banter.

thanks for the discussion.

we are poles apart but that is ok.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 03:50:39 PM
the arabian nights, I'm glad you enjoyed the banter. I'm sorry I've just realized I haven't been addressing you correctly. I thought we agreed on some things?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 04:21:03 PM
Don't understand what you mean?

But it has been fun.

take care - regards XX
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 05:12:29 PM
the arabian nights, In my earlier posts to you I was calling you "arabian nights" not "the arabian nights". That's all.  :)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 28, 2009, 05:16:08 PM
it's a bit like the joe and the joseph thing then, no big deal (joking  ok - no hard feelings) - take care
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 29, 2009, 09:47:09 PM
We can't be sure 100% but the minute I saw him on LKS I had a strange feeling about this !
That video and Chappie's comparaisons as well are quite convincing to me !
I've show the Larry King's video to my "sceptikal" friend
He said that he is hearing Michael but he found that the voice sounded a little strange,he heard a mechanical...how can I say it in english correctly..
He tought that the voice was the same with a little mechanical-kind of sound to it
What do you think ?
By the way,Leeza's show that you're/the uploader of the video is talking about is 9 years old ?Dave Dave has a soft voice as well,don't you think so too ?
That's why he must have been a perfect choice of a disguise,he has complicated face features (as he is burned) and he has quite a soft voice...
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 02:25:05 AM
i am still a little skeptical on this topic..on dave dave's myspace everyone started messaging him calling him MJ and he got very upset... Why would Michael Jackson want to go onto television so soon after his death... its just far too risky especially with his distinct tone of voice and word choices and facial features...and would have helped him put on that make up??
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 03:47:23 AM
Assuming DD wans't in the picture and didn't know LK....why does DD call Larry by the name like he is knowing him for years (like Michael).

I a part of the interview Dave says well Larry...in a way like he is knowing him for a long time..like friends
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 05:28:47 AM
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Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"
Thanks for posting this.  Looks like Michael to me.  People have said that Michael wouldn't have done that to his burn victim friend, appearing as him on LKL.  But, what if DD gave his permission and said, "go for it, MJ."  I think that is very plausible.

Thanks for posting the video.  Liberian Girl HeeHee you made a good point. MJ is a gentleman and I am sure he asked DD permission. I believe it's possible for MJ to be DD. I noticed how Mieko was acting along side him. Mieko didn't choke up once at losing his best friend. I guess not if your best friend is still alive and sitting right beside you. Keep the Faith!  ;)

...and Miko was with him at the Horror  Night.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 08:50:20 AM
As for the make-up,maybe it's Karen Faye wich helped him ?
sorry if it's stupid but he have known and trusted her for years,right ?
Sure there is (great)possibility that we're wrong.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 09:24:12 AM
Well its obvious is wasn't davedave at Larry King. The colour of the eyes are different. The dave at Larry King had brown eyes. The real dave has blue eyes.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 09:41:57 AM
i_need YoU, Regarding everyone messaging Dave Daves's Myspace and asking him if he is MJ. That makes no sense to do that because the photos on Myspace are of the real DD. Maybe the real DD is the "front" for the Myspace and MJ can use this platform to communicate/get his message out.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 09:49:35 AM
Whitesocks, I agree with your point about the over familiarity when "DD" says "and you know what Larry?" It sounds like they know each other and are old friends. Regarding the eye color of DD, I wouldn't rely on that to prove whether it is the real DD or not. Colored contact lenses would sort that out. If you look at the pictures on the real DD's Myspace DD seems to have different colored eyes/lenses in most of the photos.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 09:57:22 AM
I imagine it takes a few people to successfully apply a prosthetic disguise like MJ has used in the past (if indeed he did play the part of DD on LKL), so surely that's just more risk of being found out?! So, not only do maybe his family know he's alive, maybe the pap guys who did the ambulance pic, and anyone else who may be 'in on it', he now has to have a number of make up people knowing as well, for anytime he wants a new disguise applying to go outside or give us another public hint?? IMO that is too much of a risk, the more people who know, the more chance of being found out. :(  I really want MJ to stil be alive, but some ideas just don't add up in my eyes.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 10:16:43 AM
KingMJ, I see what you're saying and I agree to a point but MJ would probably have a team of make up special effects people on standby. Someone of MJ's magnitude would have lots of trusted people at his disposal to facillitate this show.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 03:35:13 PM
yo know i just noticed dave dave got a myspace after michael's death...why did he do that??
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 04:00:09 PM
well that was a good video..

i havent seen that one before..

im more convinced its michael    :)

but what are the shoulder pads all about   :?:  :!:

hiding false arms maybe  :?:
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 07:14:29 PM
i_needYoU, On Dave Dave's Myspace it says 15 April 2009 for the sign up date. Obviously pre June death date. Unless DD has a second Myspace?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 09:13:00 PM
If you put the real Dave Dave's pic and MJ as Dave Dave's pic beside each other you really can see some differences, which makes me believe that Michael is alive. Check out the patterns of the burns...you will notice that on his right cheek there is a brown coloured burn and the one of MJ as Dave Dave, the burn is not in the exact same spot on the cheek. Also the noses look different. MJ's is smaller and the end and nostrils are different, also Dave Dave's nose is really crooked and on the bridge of the nose Dave Dave has a red burn down the center, but MJ's is white. I also think  that Dave Dave has a much longer oval shaped face while MJ's is more heart shaped. Dave Dave has severe scaring on his neck and what we can see of mJ's neck, it looks like there aren't any scars there! The lips are different too, Dave Dave's top lip is much fatter then MJ"s. And last but not least, look at the difference in the width and length of both necks ...they look totally different! If one day we find out that it was really Dave Dave on LKL, I will be truly shocked.
As for his reason for doing this while he has "Hoaxed" his death? Well I think that MJ wanted to let his true fans know that he is alive. What better way to do so then to pretend to be Dave Dave? The only people that would know it wasn't really Dave Dave, would be his true fans, others believe that he is dead so they wouldn't think that anything was strange about this interview and they would just think that it was really Dave Dave and he was doing an interview on LKL. This was the perfect way to tell his fans that he was ok, no harm done. Its just truly sad that he had to fake his death at all, but he knew this was the only way to get the world to listen to his "message" and to "redeem" his name, in the eyes of the public and the media. Lets not forget his "message" friends...we need to make a change and we need to band together and do it now. We need to let Michael know that he hasn't done all this for nothing, we need to love one another and we need to heal this world.
I haven't posted much on here but I have been here daily reading everything and it really hurts me to see all the fighting and bickering that is going  on here lately. So many people have lost the focus of why we are here. We need to show Michael that we are capable of coming together for the purpose of spreading Michael's messsage. Together we can change the world, but if we are always fighting, we are just wasting precious time.  :(
The above is just my opinion...it just makes sense to me. Thanks! :)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 30, 2009, 10:16:50 PM
mjj4ever777, I wholeheartedly agree with your post. I couldn't have put it better myself. I will be flummoxed if it turns out to be the real Dave Dave on Larry King Live. Not to mention the color of Crimson.  :oops:
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 31, 2009, 12:18:57 AM
i just wish there was a better way of telling us hehe wouldnt that be awesome if he haha came on here and noticed how much we love him lol and contacted us personally where we could see him in person!!!! ah that would be the day that beat all the other good days lol Just dreaming so no one rain on it please!!!!  :)  :)  :)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 31, 2009, 09:27:27 PM
Yep! Dave Dave could be our Michael

Michael talking to Bashit - Check what he says at 2:40
[youtube:3og1nn03]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfeI3OCrP4[/youtube:3og1nn03]

Dave Dave talking to Larry King - Check what he says at :34
[youtube:3og1nn03]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=En5Q4syywcw[/youtube:3og1nn03]
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: December 31, 2009, 11:34:56 PM
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KingMJ, I see what you're saying and I agree to a point but MJ would probably have a team of make up special effects people on standby. Someone of MJ's magnitude would have lots of trusted people at his disposal to facillitate this show.


Yep! you're absolutely right. I think KingMJ is also forgetting that MJ is a risk taker. He does whatever he wants to do. I am sure he was warned not to go on LKL as DD. He did it anyway and the general masses accepted that it was DD. It's only us that question everything. No one cares and continues to take whatever they are fed. That was definitely MJ on LKL ( Wait!did he portrait the Mayor in Ghost? I do believe so). No one knew that was him until they read the credits at the end of the video. MJ has been masquerading around in disguises since he had his final curtain call. Keep the Faith! ;)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 01, 2010, 09:38:05 PM
I'll say that here because it's after I've seen LKL that it's stroke me
You remember in Liberian Girl there is a moment when two people say
"I understand he wears disguise" then we see a man completely covered in bandages , look like a burned guy,no ? and at the end of the credits it's not precised who is it
Liberian Girl has served as reference many times ,
Maybe there is a connection between that scene and LKL
What do you think ? I'm thinking too much or is it possible ?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:10:47 PM
hmmm...i never payed that much attention...ima go look at the video one more time
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:15:32 PM
@ shamone jackson.. what is your point in the Bashit vidoe at 2:40 he is talking about carousels????   :?
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:32:39 PM
i think they might have been talking about how michael said yep...and on the interview dd says yep the same way...or something around there...other then that i have no idea lol
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:50:24 PM
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hi, guys hope you all had a nice,new year 2010 i would i to say that is not michael he will not do that to he friend,look very close. :D
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

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hi, guys hope you all had a nice,new year 2010 i would i to say that is not michael he will not do that to he friend,look very close. :D casandra.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 02, 2010, 04:31:48 AM
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i think they might have been talking about how michael said yep...and on the interview dd says yep the same way...or something around there...other then that i have no idea lol

Yep! That's it. :)
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 02, 2010, 07:31:40 AM
Quote from: "Shamone Jackson"
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i think they might have been talking about how michael said yep...and on the interview dd says yep the same way...or something around there...other then that i have no idea lol

Yep! That's it. :)
The real DD and MJ have similar sounding voices to begin with, however after listening to both videos at the same time with eyes closed, it sounds to me as if Michael is really the DD on LKL.  It just sounds like Michael trying really hard to sound like DD, and those of us who live and breathe Michael can sense him in our hearts as one and the same person.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 02, 2010, 10:19:22 AM
jeannette boodram, We have looked very closely at this LKL interview. That is why we believe this could be MJ in disguise. Nobody believes MJ would take on Dave Dave's persona without his say-so/agreement. Maybe the real DD came up with the idea? Who knows. But be sure of one thing, MJ is not and would not mock his friend.
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Re: Great evidence that DD is MJ

  • on: January 02, 2010, 10:30:23 AM
Michael had good reason (if he has been with LKL as Dave), he would do no harm od hurt ..... I think Dave would not mind (I see nothing bad here), so ... ;)
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