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Michael asked about the valley of death, says Deepak Chopra

Piyali Dasgupta
Thursday, January 19, 2012 (New Delhi)                                   
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He's the 3 AM friend to some of the world's most powerful and celebrated people. So what do you ask the guru of well-being who was on Michael Jackson's speed dial for two decades?

Deepak Chopra, new-age guru, author, pioneer of mind-body healing, will speak at the Jaipur Literature Festival on January 22 and then shoot an episode with Oprah Winfrey the following day.

The segment with Oprah is part of the premiere of her new original primetime series - Oprah's Next Chapter - on the Oprah Winfrey Network.

"Oprah's among the most powerful women in the world. She's extremely intelligent, she reads a lot (more than anyone I know), you know that's why she was so successful with the Book Club," says Dr Chopra. Oprah's Book Club, a discussion segment on her epic talk show for 15 years, catapulted many obscure titles to bestsellers, with Oprah's clout spiking sales.

"You know, people usually think of celebrities somewhere up there, they can't relate to them. With Oprah, everyone can relate to her. She's wonderfully down-to-earth," he says.

From Oprah, the questions shift to the inevitable ones on the King of Pop - Michael Jackson - whom Dr Chopra met somewhere around 1988. A friendship that lasted nearly two decades and one in which he received a call from Michael just two days before his death. "He left a message on my answering machine...said he wanted to share some good news with me. " "Wasn't Michael Jackson under pressure...that's what the reports said...that he was under pressure over his comeback concert," I asked him. "He didn't sound like he was under pressure. He was excited with this new song, Breathe, and he wanted me to look over the lyrics. It's on the environment," says Dr Chopra.

Despite the last happy memories and Michael Jackson's obvious excitement over his new composition, Dr Chopra has often said that Michael Jackson sudden death was almost fated - "like he was hurtling towards it. He wanted to die like Elvis Presley."

"Michael once asked me, what's the drug that takes you to the valley of death and then brings you back. That was propofol , I didn't know then, he adds. The pop icon's autopsy report cites the cause of death as acute propofol intoxication.

The copy of "Breathe" lies with Dr Chopra, "I have contacted his lawyers, and his estate, I can't keep what isn't mine," he says.

The wellness guru who says he is never stressed, has a happier story to wrap up with. A joke he shared with Oprah Winfrey and with us, but not one that he wants published as yet. Instead, here's a quote that Dr Chopra says keeps him stress-free: "What people think of you is none of your business. What you think of yourself is what matters."


Read more at: http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20120192737&keyword=bollywood&subcatg=MOVIESINDIA&nid=168730&cp
takes you to the valley of death and brings you back..hmmm
huggs n love n faith to all
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How profound:  Song title: Breathe.   "Takes you to the valley of death and brings you back, propofol."  Professional witness testimony "if Murray had only tilted his head back so he could "breathe' he would still be alive today.  If we've learned nothing else along this journey for sure, we all know positively that Nothing is coincidence.
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Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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He wanted to die like Elvis Presley

Indeed.   8)

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He wanted to die like Elvis Presley

Indeed.   8)

And we all know from Michael's lips to our ears that he wants to live forever.  Dying is not on his wish list.  /white flag/
"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

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Watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=qySx8tSs8BQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-FaXD_igv4

Anything out of his mouth, is regurgitated, and he keeps adding ONTO this story. Unbelievable, what a conman, who loves the spotlight off of others. Shame on him!

Deepak uses the "Strawman Argument" in the majority of his arguments. Anyone would do better just drinking lots of water, exercising, and seeing their regular doctor, than talking to him. Immensely cheaper for the pocket book, too!
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He wanted to die like Elvis Presley

Indeed.   8)

And we all know from Michael's lips to our ears that he wants to live forever.  Dying is not on his wish list.  /white flag/
Dying not, but "Dying" yes :lol:

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The wellness guru who says he is never stressed, has a happier story to wrap up with. A joke he shared with Oprah Winfrey and with us, but not one that he wants published as yet

hmm...I wonder what happy story/joke he means, that he doesn't want to be published YET 8-)

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I like this quote.

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"Dr Chopra has often said that Michael Jackson sudden death was almost fated"

Yes what happened to "Fated" by Michael Jackson and Gotham Chopra?
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=10691.msg178146#msg178146

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaSTGsBMuIY
 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaSTGsBMuIY [/youtube]
 

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"Dr Chopra has often said that Michael Jackson sudden death was almost fated"
He was calling / he attracted this event... till he planned it to the smallest detail - it's fate all right.  :lol:

P.S.:I wonder why an atheist like Chopra would use a word like fate... When you don't believe in what's called God, can you believe in fate?!

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P.S.:I wonder why an atheist like Chopra would use a word like fate... When you don't believe in what's called God, can you believe in fate?!

Yes, I believe you can, even when you do not believe in God. I'm refering to one of Deepak Chopra's quotes: " You don't have to believe in God in order to experience God" and his book "How To Know God".
I think fate can be linked to many beliefs.

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P.S.:I wonder why an atheist like Chopra would use a word like fate... When you don't believe in what's called God, can you believe in fate?!

Yes, I believe you can, even when you do not believe in God. I'm refering to one of Deepak Chopra's quotes: " You don't have to believe in God in order to experience God" and his book "How To Know God".
I think fate can be linked to many beliefs.

L.O.V.E.


Thank you for reply! :)
Can you explain this a bit? Who decide your fate before (FATED) if you don't believe in God, but you get to experience Him during your life?

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"Dr Chopra has often said that Michael Jackson sudden death was almost fated"

Yes what happened to "Fated" by Michael Jackson and Gotham Chopra?
http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/smf2.0/index.php?topic=10691.msg178146#msg178146

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaSTGsBMuIY
 [youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LaSTGsBMuIY [/youtube]

GOOD CATCH! Except that video is using other people's artwork, after the cover, from the late '80s,
a book by John Ostrander - let's keep that part clear, kk?
« Last Edit: January 19, 2012, 07:36:13 PM by Tink »
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P.S.:I wonder why an atheist like Chopra would use a word like fate... When you don't believe in what's called God, can you believe in fate?!

Yes, I believe you can, even when you do not believe in God. I'm refering to one of Deepak Chopra's quotes: " You don't have to believe in God in order to experience God" and his book "How To Know God".
I think fate can be linked to many beliefs.

L.O.V.E.


Thank you for reply! :)
Can you explain this a bit? Who decide your fate before (FATED) if you don't believe in God, but you get to experience Him during your life?

Good question :). I had to think about it how to explain. Fate can be defined by the religion or belief which you personally support, f.i. Karma is fate in Buddhism and differs from God's fate. I believe in God's fate, but I partly believe in the possibility to have some control on my own life path and destiny, which is Karma. It seems I'm stuck in the middle and that is belief too imho.
And your question about how to experience God during my life, I'm not certain about this yet. First I'm going to read Chopra's "How to know God". Maybe I will find some answers. Sorry for being a bit vague.

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Have to admit that books of D. Chopra content some wisdom - not to the revelational point, bt they are useful along wth many simular soul-advising guides.

But after meet him personaly on his NY lectures i always thought - WHY Michael constantly fall for the creepy/con ppl?
Is it he try to brink out better from smthng worse- cause he believe in his ability to change people for better (rmbr Michael said if he have chance to speak wth Hitler- he may change him and then history itself?).
 Or its just MJ quriosity go into spell of harisma-moment wth them?.
Anyhow@@ I wl b so happy to change my mind about that lector- but for now DC should teem up wth rabbi Shmuley and K.

BTW- LKL talk wth Gotham Chopra   right after 625 was sooo into the hoax if anyone recall that discussion on old forum.'))

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Have to admit that books of D. Chopra content some wisdom - not to the revelational point, bt they are useful along wth many simular soul-advising guides.

But after meet him personaly on his NY lectures i always thought - WHY Michael constantly fall for the creepy/con ppl?
Is it he try to brink out better from smthng worse- cause he believe in his ability to change people for better (rmbr Michael said if he have chance to speak wth Hitler- he may change him and then history itself?).
 Or its just MJ quriosity go into spell of harisma-moment wth them?.
Anyhow@@ I wl b so happy to change my mind about that lector- but for now DC should teem up wth rabbi Shmuley and K.

BTW- LKL talk wth Gotham Chopra   right after 625 was sooo into the hoax if anyone recall that discussion on old forum.'))

L.O.V.E.!

I do like Gotham, but also find Deepak into things for the money. Gotham seems to try to do right.

I find his books to be ...Spiritual, because he had GHOST WRITERS! He didn't write them, only supplied an outline of what
he wanted in the books. I feel the lady who wrote the majority of the books deserved the credit, but she said she was
compensated quite well, for writing the books. It's HER Spirituality that comes through, IMHO.

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Michael asked about the valley of death, says Deepak Chopra

I can not copy and paste the article, but you guys need to read it. Deepak Chopra says:

"Michael once asked me, what's the drug that takes you to the valley of death and then brings you back."

What an interesting expression to use. ;) He also said:

Dr Chopra has often said that MJ sudden death was almost fated - "like he was hurtling towards it. He wanted to die like Elvis Presley.


This is definitely a very interesting article. Here is the link:


http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20120192737&keyword=bollywood&subcatg=MOVIESINDIA&nid=168730

« Last Edit: January 22, 2012, 09:23:11 AM by PureLove »

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Thanks Purelove :)

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Michael asked about the valley of death, says Deepak Chopra
Piyali Dasgupta
Thursday, January 19, 2012 (New Delhi)                                 
Print | A+   A-

He's the 3 AM friend to some of the world's most powerful and celebrated people. So what do you ask the guru of well-being who was on Michael Jackson's speed dial for two decades?

Deepak Chopra, new-age guru, author, pioneer of mind-body healing, will speak at the Jaipur Literature Festival on January 22 and then shoot an episode with Oprah Winfrey the following day.

The segment with Oprah is part of the premiere of her new original primetime series - Oprah's Next Chapter - on the Oprah Winfrey Network.

"Oprah's among the most powerful women in the world. She's extremely intelligent, she reads a lot (more than anyone I know), you know that's why she was so successful with the Book Club," says Dr Chopra. Oprah's Book Club, a discussion segment on her epic talk show for 15 years, catapulted many obscure titles to bestsellers, with Oprah's clout spiking sales.

"You know, people usually think of celebrities somewhere up there, they can't relate to them. With Oprah, everyone can relate to her. She's wonderfully down-to-earth," he says.

From Oprah, the questions shift to the inevitable ones on the King of Pop - Michael Jackson - whom Dr Chopra met somewhere around 1988. A friendship that lasted nearly two decades and one in which he received a call from Michael just two days before his death. "He left a message on my answering machine...said he wanted to share some good news with me. " "Wasn't Michael Jackson under pressure...that's what the reports said...that he was under pressure over his comeback concert," I asked him. "He didn't sound like he was under pressure. He was excited with this new song, Breathe, and he wanted me to look over the lyrics. It's on the environment," says Dr Chopra.

Despite the last happy memories and Michael Jackson's obvious excitement over his new composition, Dr Chopra has often said that Michael Jackson sudden death was almost fated - "like he was hurtling towards it. He wanted to die like Elvis Presley."

"Michael once asked me, what's the drug that takes you to the valley of death and then brings you back. That was propofol , I didn't know then, he adds. The pop icon's autopsy report cites the cause of death as acute propofol intoxication.

The copy of "Breathe" lies with Dr Chopra, "I have contacted his lawyers, and his estate, I can't keep what isn't mine," he says.

The wellness guru who says he is never stressed, has a happier story to wrap up with. A joke he shared with Oprah Winfrey and with us, but not one that he wants published as yet. Instead, here's a quote that Dr Chopra says keeps him stress-free: "What people think of you is none of your business. What you think of yourself is what matters."


Read more at: http://movies.ndtv.com/movie_story.aspx?ID=ENTEN20120192737&keyword=bollywood&subcatg=MOVIESINDIA&nid=168730&cp
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OMG this really made me cry.
Breathe?!

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"Michael once asked me, what's the drug that takes you to the valley of death and then brings you back. That was propofol , I didn't know then, he adds. The pop icon's autopsy report cites the cause of death as acute propofol intoxication.

I need to sleep over that quote.
("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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One more quote from mr.Chopra on LKL 2009 that " Michael is having a metaphorical death".
That was on the interview together wth his son Gotham, who is very dear friend of Mike.

Sleep well @MISSG!  '))
 
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One more quote from mr.Chopra on LKL 2009 that " Michael is having a metaphorical death".
That was on the interview together wth his son Gotham, who is very dear friend of Mike.

Assumptions there!

Working with Michael, doesn't make you a dear friend - it makes you an ASSOCIATE!

One of my pet peeves in any business - everyone says they know so & so; but what they mean, is they MET them, not KNOW them. Gets to be a PITA!

I see Chopra cashing in on popularity, but his son was trying to do business. Neither makes you a FRIEND. Going on tour for a summer and having sex with the crew, does NOT make you a friend, either - never heard Michael's side of that, only one sided.

Actually, that's what has been driving me crazy: so many people have been saying how good of friends they were with Michael, but I've NEVER heard Michael say it out of all the years (decade plus), that there was!

WHERE was Gotham, when Michael was in trial?
Sorry, just not buying it - words after the fact pester me immensely. Kind of like how people will hang out with people when they think they're going to get a free ride, money - but when they find out things aren't going to rub off on them, they jump ship. But if the person dies, "Oh, we were best buddies!" Even though they abandoned them during their darkest hours.

That's how I look at things - and I only saw a few people risking their reputations for Michael, and went on record for it!
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The wellness guru who says he is never stressed, has a happier story to wrap up with. A joke he shared with Oprah Winfrey and with us, but not one that he wants published as yet

hmm...I wonder what happy story/joke he means, that he doesn't want to be published YET 8-)

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"What people think of you is none of your business. What you think of yourself is what matters."
I like this quote.

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"What people think of you is none of your business. What you think of yourself is what matters."
This is one of my favorite quotes, it is so true.
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"A metaphorical death" is one thing. To retro-actively answer things, that's called "hindsight 20/20."

When the dust clears, I do believe that we, in on the Hoax, and those, who couldn't believe watching their own eyes (even though the hospital didn't follow protocol with the handling of dead bodies). The "Rescue 5" Helicopter taking off with the belted, moving body, while the police and Rescue people fussed over the dummy.

No, I believe it's going to go down in HiStory, as the best story. Because more and more people will now understand how Michael was set up, how rediculous Propofol to sleep is (I slept AFTER I took it - 2 to 3 days? Just starving after I was able to eat).

I will leave it in Joaquin Phoenix, his people to explain it:


What we all suspected about Joaquin Phoenix for the past couple of years has turned out to be true: he was never genuinely pursuing a hip-hop career, or messed up on drugs, or suddenly incapable of forming a coherent sentence, or totally losing his mind. His behavior since late 2008 has all been an act.

Casey Affleck -- Phoenix's brother-in-law and the director of "I'm Still Here," the documentary about Phoenix's alleged new direction in life -- confirmed in a New York Times interview that nothing in the movie nor in Phoenix's off-camera antics, including that famous interview with David Letterman, was real. (See the full clip of said interview at the end of this post.)

"It's a terrific performance, it's the performance of his career," Affleck tells reporter Michael Cieply, later adding that, "We wanted to create a space ... you believe what's happening is real." The question is: how will Phoenix's fans and moviegoers feel about it?

Whatever you may think about the merits of the effort, it's hard to argue with Affleck's assertion that Phoenix delivered quite a performance. While it was fair to assume his addled, bearded weirdness was all an act, he committed so fully to it that it was just as easy to think he had genuinely fallen off the rails.

I also think there is something, for lack of a better word, brave in what Phoenix did. At a time when other celebrities are perhaps more conscious than ever before about how to cultivate an image -- not only by signing on to the right projects, but by agreeing to certain precisely airbrushed magazine shoots or by actively maintaining an often-updated, aggressively funny Twitter feed -- Phoenix willingly shredded his excellent reputation. And not just for a month or two, but for two entire years, with no guarantee he'd be able to recover.

Now, one could easily argue that, given the (so far) mediocre box office impact of "I'm Still Here," all that performance art was for naught. I am sure Affleck and Phoenix -- who is set to make his triumphant return next week to the "Late Show With David Letterman" -- are letting us all in on the joke now in the hope that, perhaps, it will make people more likely to see and understand what they were trying to do in the film.

But whether or not the movie succeeds, Phoenix and Affleck certainly proved that, as a society, we're willing to believe that anyone -- even a respected Academy Award nominee -- can completely lose his way almost overnight. Their project also demonstrates that, for better or for worse, it is entirely possible to transform one's image if a person tries hard enough.

Of course, now Phoenix has to make the effort to change that image back. As the New York Times and both the L.A. Times note, he has started to consider movie roles again. Honestly, I doubt seriously that it will be terribly hard for Phoenix to win back people's favor. In Hollywood, they'll probably be tipping their hat to his inspired insanity and using it to argue that he's the undisputed finest actor of his generation.

How do you feel about the Joaquin Phoenix fakery?
   It was a work of genius. I'm in awe that he pulled it off for so long.
   It was ridiculous and I'm annoyed thatI fell for it.
   I always knew it wasn't real so I don't have strong feelings one way or the other.
   I don't care either way about the so-called hoax. I just want him to start making movies like "Walk the Line" again.
Results:


Let's see if the chart loaded, as I feel all of this relates to Michael. People will be so happy, especially if he's been working on something. We've been left many, many crumbs leading to it, and I've hinted at a project like it! rr/
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Thank u @Tink for exellent post!
BLESSINGS!@@

Awww,  ;))  bearhug
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