Leslie Carter...Another BIG PHARMA VICTIM...Let's Not forget her either!

[MJonmind]

My heart goes out to the Carter family. She was a lovely girl.


That could easily have happened to my daughter, who during teen-aged depression tried twice to kill herself by swallowing bottles of pills, and was cutting herself. Our family relationship was so volatile at that time, it was difficult to even know what was happening until afterwards, when it could have been too late.  We tried putting her on medication but she said it really didn't have any effect, and the doctor warned her she could damage her liver for life, if she tried the overdose stunt again.  Now, 3 or so years later, with counselling and maturity she is fine, and looks back wondering where her head was. We are now very close.  But I would say there is no easy answers, it's almost that you just want them to somehow make it through those years alive.  Her emotional pain was because of a sexual abuse that had taken place years earlier, that we as parents had not known about.

My nephew has diagnosed bi-polar (strongly in his extended family) and talked many times of killing himself, and even when on regular medication was not doing so well.  But then when he went off gradually, and started smoking marijuana regularly, he found that that was thing that helped him the most. His father my brother-in-law, in fact ABSOLUTELY  HAS to be on medication the rest of his life (won't go into that story but it went very badly several times when he went off).

I have a good friend whose husband was planning to kill her and their 3 children, and that's when they realized he needed medication. Now after professional help and difficult years, they are finally a stable family again, but he HAS to be on medication for the rest of his life.

My mother was sexually abused as a child, and was given shock treatments, long institution stays, and many medications, all of which dulled her brain, but not her self-loathing. She died (long ago) at 50 from drug complications, and I had no real mother growing up.

Drug companies are not completely evil, and people's physical/mental problems can be complicated with no easy solutions.
If natural means of controlling depression are working, that's great, but if not, some things should not be played around with. JMO

[Aidan_81]

If natural means of controlling depression are working, that's great, but if not, some things should not be played around with. JMO

- that's true of course. Problem is they are too happy to prescribe you
something even before you tried other ways of helping yourself.

Lol, when I described my "bipolar" symptoms to mom, she said "but I had it
all my life!" and told me what she was using to "get out of it", which was basically
concentrating hard on work, "good housekeeping" [obsessive if you ask me lol]
and plain things like that. Then I reviewed
my life habits, changed the way I eat etc. and I go without any pills for many years
as, thank God, I'm scared of such pills enough to never try, when good Dr. first
was happy to prescribe me things to control my moods, I said "no, I'll try it my way
first".  I saw my friend taking something like condemned Prozac - and he was a scary
sight to me. Just scary. He's now clean and basically what took him out was
getting married and having children, simple as that! His life is back.

[BeTheChange]

I owe my daughter's life to God, of course....but also to 'Western' medicine, science and technology.  She was born 12 weeks early and weighed in at just under 3 lbs.  Because of that...I KNOW that there is 'good' in it....in its philosophy, in its practices, and in its intent....and I will always be grateful for the role that 'Western' medicine had in helping my daughter survive.  However....nothing involving 'man' is ever 'foolproof' or 'absolute' or all 'good'....and that includes 'Western' medicine. 

My experiences with my daughter and her special needs have brought us down many 'paths' that I know I wouldn't have experienced had it not been for the miracle and struggles of her life.  Based on 10 years of MY experience (firsthand)....I would conclude that most doctors are not 'bad' people and they don't set out to get people addicted to drugs nor are their intentions 'evil'.  However they, too, ARE a product of a 'system' that has a certain 'ideology' and set of beliefs/practices....they, too, are 'conditioned' to think and act a certain way based on a 'Western' model.  IMO...again based on what I've experienced....somewhere along the way, that 'model' stopped seeing the individual as a whole being (if it ever did)....and instead began only seeing symptoms or 'problems' that don't fall within THEIR definition of 'normal'....symptoms and problems that are best taken care of with 'man-made' substances generated/created/produced by, and within, that same 'system'.  They treat the symptom, not the root (not the whole person).  My lack of faith, not in doctors per se, but in the 'system'....led me to explore many other alternative 'models'...and there ARE many others outside the 'bubble'.

In fact, many alternative models have been around for centuries....the 'Western' model is fairly 'new' when compared to some other ideologies or traditions/practices.  Just as one should research ANY advice given by any doctor (regardless of what 'model' they adhere to)....IMO, one should also venture outside the model they were born into and research what lies beyond.  Granted, there are many 'struggles' that ANY 'model' can not, and will not, be able to 'cure' (those lie soley in God's realm)....but the different 'managing' or coping options available relegate 'Western' medicine to just ONE branch.  And while the end result may be the same regardless of which model one chooses (i.e. Western vs. Eastern medicine....although there are many others)....the 'getting there' can be quite different depending on the 'system'/ideology behind it.  There is always something 'better' out there....or at least something 'different' worth trying....especially when no 'quick fix' is gonna do it.

@MJonmind....thank you for sharing your story about your daughter...I can't begin to imagine how difficult those times were for all of you.  I'm SO happy that she is better and that you are closer because of it.  May God continue to bless you and your family  :

With L.O.V.E. always.

[everlastinglove_MJ]

Tink, not everyone can "adjust" to anything, and mind you all people come
from different surroundings, experienced different types of abuse and psychological
pressure and, if we don't have real schizophrenia, all these "bipolar disorders"
and "anxieties" can be dealt with without medication, via good food, good therapy [that
doesn't exist in most places] and that is nothing but talking and money making
from air and our LONELINESS {I tried that and I know that}, OR through grand family
support. That's why that bond is important. People get LONELY, closed,
and seek wrong types of help - but ppl can die from taking Aspirin, you know.
But they won't take a bottle of Aspirin at once because they do not expect
Aspirin to "help them sleep" or to "make me happy and cheerful again" or to
"make bad thoughts go away".
Don't project your experience on everyone - unstable young girls, abandoned by
family, should NOT get heavy stuff available as they will overdose sleeping pills
very likely, don't blame the patient! In US it sounds like every 2nd person has pharmacy
in his fridge, it's SHOCKING for me to learn how many pills you get, even young kids!
It's not THE solution, and all the "treatable mental disorders" are often a fraud
when real problem stays the same - loneliness, abandonment, lack of communication
between people like family members. Pills can't help them to get in touch with loved ones again,
pills are not company to confide in.

My friend, poor lady, got that "bipolar" diagnosis {they stamp you with it easily, only happy
to get new lifelong client!} and they gave her so many pills, so she is now addicted - she gets
serious withdrawal symptoms and it's scary - when she had no access to that cr*p,
sorry never knew drug "names" as we're in different countries and it all goes under various
names, she can't stay "clean" anymore because she can't get through withdrawal,
 and indeed she has it WORSE than before she started the "treatment". She now has
serious weight issues - she thinks it's all connected, but I never dug that much, so
 I suppose since medicine in no way makes her a happy person, she is just as unhappy
with her life if not more, she eats more as most depressed ppl do. She's fairly poor and that
medicine takes a lot of her money. She's their slave for life now and she's easy to control, too.
Her personality changed a lot, too. And yes, the real problem she started with was good
old LONELINESS and lack of contact, like personal, intimate contact. Life is too fast and
we are so preoccupied with ourselves, our jobs, we don't notice ones who need help as simple
as sincere conversations on a regular basis. We can't trust each other so we avoid confidence
and real friendships, we think new stuff or pills can make us happy and "complete" again,
while it's not true.

NO WAY I'll ever blame a girl for being abandoned and desperate. "Good doctor" should
learn about his patient first, so he would know what's safe what's not. But good old Dr.
cares only for money in most cases.

Very good post Aidan!

Life is too fast and
we are so preoccupied with ourselves, our jobs, we don't notice ones who need help as simple
as sincere conversations on a regular basis. We can't trust each other so we avoid confidence
and real friendships, we think new stuff or pills can make us happy and "complete" again,
while it's not true.
 

Sadly true. I hope there will be a change, a moral turning point, that people start to realise and SEE (and not turn their head) the other who needs help and start to ACT (and not say "I'm too busy" :roll:), which could be just listening or do a small favor and know this might mean a big favor for them.

L.O.V.E.

[Kaidan]

People only take drugs when they have them, I guess everyone may be different, but I've gone through so many life phases and bad experiences, but I've NEVER taken drugs to suss it out, not once.
I think it's easy for people not to take drugs, find something else to vent your anger/sadness onto, rather than using drugs to 'cure' the pain. It doesn't take away the pain if you keep wanting more, obviously.

[everlastinglove_MJ]

How Our Obsession With Celebrities Fuels The Drug Culture
In today's celebrity obsessed culture it is easy to become enamored with the glamorous lifestyles of movie stars and rock gods. They look how we want to look, act how we'd like to act, seem smart, capable and friendly. However, a staggering number of these modern day idols are succumbing to the pressures fame can induce by turning to drugs and alcohol. Brazenly flaunting their vices to the masses, this phenomenon is having a startling effect on our society. Drug addiction is not something to be glorified or admired, as is done so often on television or in movies, but to be confronted. Drug rehabilitation needs to be seen as a necessary step to recovery as opposed to a trending topic on reality television.
 
Impressionable Kids
 
People love to follow celebrity gossip through tabloids, television and internet blogs. Unfortunately, some of the information contained in these outlets aren't true. Famous people can have their problems blown way out of proportion many different ways. Kids see how they are living their lives and want to imitate. If they see Lindsay Lohan or Britney Spears out at night partying with drugs and alcohol they will do they exact same thing. Ultimately, parents must keep watch over their children so they do not fall into these destructive patterns.
 
Celebrity Rehab
 
When celebrities hit rock bottom and go to rehab people become even more obsessed with their lives. They seem so interesting compared to most peoples mundane lives. There are even reality television shows on air that deal with this very subject. People want to see celebrities confront their issues in front of a camera so they can gossip about them even more. This is a recent phenomenon that is very unhealthy for our country.
 
Misconceptions
 
Unlike normal people who need to seek rehabilitation, celebrities are able to afford luxury treatment facilities. People get the impression, from seeing these places on television, that rehab is a glamorous experience. The reality could not be further from the truth. In fact, rehab is one of the toughest things a person can ever go through. Society needs to wake up to the fact that a drug addiction is not the latest fashion accessory.
 
Media
 
The mainstream media, namely the paparazzi, need to stop reporting such inane stories about celebrities and their alleged drug use. It fosters a fascination that serves no purpose other than making drug use seem more normal. It is confusing for a young person to see their favorite celebrity using drugs while maintaining a successful career that is endorsed by the media. It makes it seem like there is nothing wrong with what they are doing.
 
Help From Family
 
People who have regular nine to five jobs live very different lifestyles from the celebrities out in Hollywood. They do not have the money in most cases to cultivate and maintain a serious drug habit. If they do, they surely will not have the money for expensive, resort like treatment centers they see on television. It is important for people to realize what they see on television and read in tabloids does not accurately reflect real life. If a person fails to understand this it will make them think it is okay to have a hard partying lifestyle.
 

Our nation's obsession with celebrities has spilled over into an obsession with their drug habits. Young people want to imitate what they see their favorite celebrities doing, even if includes very harmful behavior. We need to, as a society, educate people that drug addiction is not something to be admired. Drug rehabilitation is critical for individuals dealing with an addiction so that they can begin the recovery process.


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[hesouttamylife]

One of the most over prescribed drugs on the market is prescribed to children and pharma has made billions on it, Ritalin.  They have no problems using our children for guinea pigs.  The more the merrier.  They simply don’t care.  It’s all about money like almost every evil known to man.

[Tink]

One of the most over prescribed drugs on the market is prescribed to children and pharma has made billions on it, Ritalin.  They have no problems using our children for guinea pigs.  The more the merrier.  They simply don’t care.  It’s all about money like almost every evil known to man.

My adopted siblings HAD to have Ritalin, all the way through High school. There's no if, and, or buts - without it, they couldn't focus for 30 seconds on anything, whatsoever!! We'd give them a summer break off of it, but they'd literally destroy the house!  We oft spent vacation money on re-upholstery.

[blankie]

 :cry: It's all so absurd and sad  :cry:

[LoveShyMichael]

One of the most over prescribed drugs on the market is prescribed to children and pharma has made billions on it, Ritalin.  They have no problems using our children for guinea pigs.  The more the merrier.  They simply don’t care.  It’s all about money like almost every evil known to man.

My adopted siblings HAD to have Ritalin, all the way through High school. There's no if, and, or buts - without it, they couldn't focus for 30 seconds on anything, whatsoever!! We'd give them a summer break off of it, but they'd literally destroy the house!  We oft spent vacation money on re-upholstery.

As long as American's keep believing they need some medicine to handle every day life, BIG PHARMA will keep supplying them. If people will understand they have emotions that "need" to be felt & instead American's want to "suppress" them. If you suppress them, your easier to control. Why do you think teachers wanted kids as young as 2 on Ritalin & adderall. Easier to control. A childs' brain is at it's most cruical time of growing, & now we're brain damaging them with synethnic drugs. Any synethic drug in our system doesn't belong there....period....

If American's have that thought process of HAVING TO TAKE PRESCRIPTION MEDICATION FOR REST OF THEIR LIFE, then expect your life to be cut shorter than someone who isn't taking prescription drugs.

99% of all pain & failed immuned system is because of the food & drinks & synthetic drugs you are putting in your body.

[MJonmind]

BeTheChange, thanks for your find words!
Much love to you as well, and God's blessings on you and your daughter!

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Past Human Population Growth




Projected World Population Growth

In previous lectures, we have described how human cultural development was closely tied to changes in the natural environment. Successive cultural revolutions, such as the agricultural revolution, have led to surges in population. Figure 1 summarizes again the historical record, typical of a "J-shaped" growth, with humans filling new niches and (perhaps) not yet reaching a limiting You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. One feature to note in this plot is the lack of huge fluctuations associated with famines or wars. In fact, the nature of J-shaped (exponential) growth is such that episodic reductions due to such catastrophes usually do not affect the inexorable and overpowering upward acceleration in population size. An exception is the period of the "You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login" in Europe, which produced a noticeable but small downward spike in the curve. The wholesale loss of life due to world wars of the 20th century produced only small perturbations to the upward trend.

The human population growth of the last century has been truly phenomenal. It required only 40 years after 1950 for the population to double from 2.5 billion to 5 billion. This doubling time is less than the average human lifetime. The world population passed 6 billion just before the end of the 20th century.  Present estimates are for the population to reach 8-12 billion before the end of the 21st century. During each lecture hour, more than 10,000 new people enter the world, a rate of ~3 per second!
Of the 6 billion people, about half live in poverty and at least one fifth are severely undernourished. The rest live out their lives in comparative comfort and health.
The factors affecting global human population are very simple. They are fertility, mortality, initial population, and time. The current You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login of ~1.3% per year is smaller than the peak which occurred a few decades ago (~2.1% per year in 1965-1970), but since this rate acts on a much larger population base, the absolute number of new people per year (~90 million) is at an all time high. The stabilization of population will require a reduction in fertility globally. In the most optimistic view, this will take some time.

[Tink]

@MJonmind: That's why women have fought so hard for control over their bodies, for so long! What good is it to have so many children, just because a man wants to prove he's fertile, then go off and leave the women to fend for their families in Africa?

Women and children are always, always who suffer. This cycle is what we've been trying to break for so very very long. It's so obvious in the Middle East, but prevalent where poverty reigns!

Empower women - and birth levels drop; they don't have to watch their children die; they don't have to die in childbirth - and of bizarre infections, as they're treated as baby machines.

[LoveShyMichael]

And also know that ALL VACCINES have ingredients that affect sterility. Why do you think BIG PHARMA pushing vaccines? They know that as long as vaccines are loaded full of drugs making you sterile, they know the population will go down. Bill Gates, the biggest pusher & funder behind vaccines, openly admits that if he can make vaccines mandatory, he can lower the population by 15-20%. You-Tube has video. Look it up!

[Tink]

I humbly disagree about the vaccines. They've helped us to EXTEND our lifespans, conquer so many, many diseases. Jonas Salk & Polio is a great one! Until you've seen people survive, crippled by it - oh wait, most people don't have it. 2 people in my family wear braces on legs still, though older.

[Aidan_81]

I humbly disagree about the vaccines. They've helped us to EXTEND our lifespans, conquer so many, many diseases. Jonas Salk & Polio is a great one! Until you've seen people survive, crippled by it - oh wait, most people don't have it. 2 people in my family wear braces on legs still, though older.

First vaccines were NOT meant to do any harm, that's for sure! No doubt for me, too.
We erased many deadly deceases with them, but closer to the end
of XX century I'm afraid someone realized what else can be done using new
vaccines and by making them mandatory... people change, agenda changes, and
let's admit it - people of power go "evil" real fast, they think different and they think
it's up to them to decide who should live and reproduce, who should not.
I  know people, I know what power does to their mindset, so why not? Nothing
"fantasy" about such theories IMHO. Human nature. The whole Nazi Germany thing
was oh so real, and it was what it was - it's not just mid-century Germans who easily adopted
such mindset you know. People are prone to that sadly.