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Offline thea.panina

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Who is this

  • on: April 02, 2012, 04:13:14 AM
On tinychat/kfcmane there is a person named kfcmane who says he is Michael. He says he is planing a comeback, maybe end of this year. He shows videos of Michael and talks in the "I"-form, like "when I did Motown 25". Janet is also there sometimes and Prince Michael Jr (but they don't talk on microphon). "Michael" talks and many believe it is him, but I think not. I don't think it is the real Michael because the micro is not so clear when he talks and he cannot sing. They say it is because he is ill. But he avoids to sing always and says he is in the studio and hold the microphone to a playing CD (not live).  Some people in that tinychat get very angry if you show that you don't believe it is the real Michael and if you show it, you get banned ! Would Michael need to do this ?
When he sees people who don't believe, he says he is "only Michael" and acts like a fan, but else he talks as "I" showing Michael's videos ("when we did..., when I toured, Paris is well,.."). Fake or real? I think fake, but find out yourself.

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 03:13:59 AM
Update: I think he is fake because he is very sexist towards women and behaves like a horny lech sometimes.
The real Michael was a gentleman. But one thing I know for sure now is that kfcmane is the same guy who came as false "Peter Pan PYT" into the Chat of Pearl Jr (MJJinnocent4ever) the other night and spoke into the microfon unclearly. He said his mic didn't work. That is what he always does, when he doesn't know what to say or he takes the mic very near to his mouth so that nobody can understand what he says or hear his voice clearly.

But in my opinion, it is very bad to behave like this in Michael's name !
His main moderator was a 13 year old girl and she was always on mic and acting like his wife, answering questions for him (it was not Paris; different voice). She said she knows him almost 1 year, only from chat. (meanwhile there are more moderators than just her).
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 03:28:09 AM by thea.panina »

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 04:55:05 AM
I despise the hoax committee for doing nothing toward this obvious problem.
they should make up something to disarm at least most egregious fakes who bring only harm.
sometimes I start thinking MJ does nothing for he benefits from their tricks, or he doesn't really care,
or probably he is behind some of these 'peter freaking pans'... people go crazy over fake MJs
(people are stupid or naive, but still), and someone who knows for sure who is who here
does nothing, letting them frolic with impunity. it's a shame. was it so hard to pay attention
to this aspect of the hoax and manage it somehow? I can't get it, really.
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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 05:22:05 AM
lol, calm down, pikachu, it's a circus, remember...? :)) Fakes can't steal from you what you already know.

Anyway, we should not base our beLIEfs on anonymous' "clues"...  At least I don't.

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 05:51:48 AM
Fakes can't steal from you what you already know.
Anyway, we should not base our beLIEfs on anonymous' "clues"...  At least I don't.

If only everyone could be as smart as you are, Veronica.....

It's not about clues at all, it's about not preventing evil.
the hoax is full of little girls and perverts, didn't you know?

In July 2009 I was careless enough to get into PeterPanPYT's video chat
on his MySpace page. Wanna know what did I see?
3 of 4 men were masturbating right in front of web cams. I don't lie.
But I guess it's the least evil that was going on there...
PeterPanPYT is one of the main heroes of the hoax, btw,
and thousands still believe he is MJ. just sayin'... 

you may say 'people just want to be fooled', but it's not a decision.
if you can do something about it -- do it, do not leave ambiguity.
but, you know, ambiguity is MJ's fetish. so...


« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 06:08:36 AM by pikachu »
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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 06:40:55 AM
Yeah, I'm smart - too bad I don't use my intellectual abilities, huh? I don't know anymore when you are ironical and  when not.

Pikachu, lil girls have parents, Michael can't do parenting right now on the internet for them...

I can't imagine how much they know about MJ if they believe PeterPanPYT is Michael... I know even Pearljr wants to leave that impression... What can I say? They have to learn their lessons.

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 07:56:17 AM

Pikachu, lil girls have parents, Michael can't do parenting right now on the internet for them...
They have to learn their lessons.
Look, MJ's hoax is a lie as such. a compulsory lie, but still a lie.
in addition, lots of sick liars brought their vacuous lies just to have fun.
so what lesson should we learn in all that? ALL AROUND IS A LIE
and there is no one to believe? nice, but unhealthy. I've learned this
and I'm not happy with that, believe me. but not everyone chooses
to trust no one, like I and you do. people need to believe in something,
in somebody, it's their nature, so they will err again and again,
choosing the wrong 'leader'. I think someone should at least try to minimize
the amount of lies, mess and BS here, in that sick circus... not contrary.

but probably it's just me, I am a bit too emotional and a bit too idealist,
so I truly am disappointed no one never cared about this...
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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 08:16:27 AM
Umm... let's say that a miracle would accomplish what seems to be an ideal; this would mean that by default will have to dissapear also those you believe them to be real: Back and Front.
Just like you believe them to be MJ, the same goes for those who believe Peter, or kfcmane, or mjviva, etc. are the real thing. So what are we talking about here?
Almost all beLIEvers have their "insiders"/MJs. They have what they're asking for.

The pic is very simple...

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 08:50:22 AM
@pikachu : I agree with everything you said here.

Regarding PeterPanPYT...it seems that along these years there have been several "versions" of him. So not only fakers impersonated Michael, they even impersonated an impersonator that many believed it was Michael! I hope I am as clear as I can be, given the circumstances  . . . :animal0017: :icon_lol:
It's really crazy what's happening! And I have a feeling, that this was one of the hoax aspects that were not so much anticipated by Michael when he created his genius plan. Maybe he didn't expect so many people would start pretending they're him .... I don't know what to believe anymore! how much of this "fakers-community" is controlled by him or not, but I totally agree it's not having a good influence, especially not on younger and more naive and inexperienced believers...


Regarding Back, TS, Front - they can't even be compared to the mass of fakers/posers/impersonators out there on chat-rooms, twitter, FB, YT and blogs. They've clearly given clues ahead of events that happened further, then we've received verifying signs regarding them from the family twits...
Plus: they don't "mingle" around believers with everyday superficial chat, they don't indulge into "I love you" conversations and "did you miss me?" kind of discussions that I've seen at fakers! When they are confronted about their true identity they don't react aggressively like fakers usually do, they don't accuse anyone of being hateful and they don't get oversensitive when they receive direct questions.

Also, they stick to the main point and reasons why they are here anyway! it's clear they post by a time-schedule, they do not write their messages randomly, they have a clear plan they follow.... that every time coincides with the hoax-numerology and with the same direction this hoax is going to...
So far, to me Back Ts and Front are the most VALID insiders I've ever seen!
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 08:52:59 AM by SimPattyK »

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 09:19:17 AM
If there is something I despise most to a human being, is the "ability" to kiss butts... This is why I could never be a "cheerleader".

Off topic, sorry.  :computer-losy-smiley:

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 09:30:44 AM
 :icon_eek:

Since I don't see any "butt kissing" on this thread and because I obviously expressed a different opinion regarding what you said about Back and Front, I assume that you placed your "off topic"  instead of a contra-argument to my opinion.
You have an "interesting" perception of what a contradictory discussion should be.

Sorry for the "off topic"  :icon_e_biggrin:

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 10:56:57 AM
Yeah, I'm smart - too bad I don't use my intellectual abilities, huh?

You are smart, yes, but even you can't apply your abilities fully -
your total scepsis (seems to me) comes from the fear, from inability to make a choice, to place a bet --
for choosing something, you always may fail. You are either unable to distinguish A from B, and B from C,
so you reject ALL. It's understandable, of course, especially here...

but I don't think comparing obvious dirty frauds with ambiguous tactic of so-called 'insiders' is correct. It's not.

@pikachu : I agree with everything you said here.

@SimPattyK: I agree with everything you said too.)
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 11:01:41 AM by pikachu »
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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 12:04:03 PM

So far, to me Back Ts and Front are the most VALID insiders I've ever seen!
Or the smartest fakes :suspect:
I hate myself for not being able to make up my mind about them.
But I do appreciate their brilliant minds and I can't wait for their posts.

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 06, 2012, 12:44:58 PM
Yeah, I'm smart - too bad I don't use my intellectual abilities, huh?

You are smart, yes, but even you can't apply your abilities fully -
your total scepsis (seems to me) comes from the fear, from inability to make a choice, to place a bet --
for choosing something, you always may fail. You are either unable to distinguish A from B, and B from C,
so you reject ALL. It's understandable, of course, especially here..but I don't think comparing obvious dirty frauds with ambiguous tactic of so-called 'insiders' is correct. It's not.

Well, well... I will let you know when I'm gonna need a psychologist, although I'm sure I don't wanna go in the other extreme, where you are.
Thanks for the review!

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 11, 2012, 02:39:22 AM
I totally agree with Pikachu. I am sure Michael would not have wanted this - fakers using his name for their own advantage to do cyberXXX with the females who come. Obviously some women are into this, but don't forget the dangers, just as Pikachu mentioned. I am very angry too, that they are misusing Michael Jackson's name like this. Do you think Michael would have nothing else to do the whole day. He is a father of children and a very good one as we know. If it was like this, he would be sitting all these hours, every day, infront of his computer, doing all the things he does. Your're giving perverts a chance if you support this. Sure Michael cannot watch what these perverts are doing, but we can stop it by disclosing them in the chatroom, opening the chatroom people's eyes, who are so fixed on the thought that this is Michael. You will see how aggressive some of them become.
Ask him questions.... but think properly what to ask, not something you can google.
And if you want to open the people's eyes, don't do it in the mainchat but in private messaging.
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« Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 02:41:22 AM by thea.panina »

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 04:11:57 AM
This are their newest jokes:

Message From Michael Jackson 2012 - YouTube

Michael Jackson - "Loves Conrad Murray" May 26, 2009 RECORDED - YouTube

They also say that Bruce Jackson is Michael Jackson (search for Bruce Jackson songs on youtube). For me he does not sound like Michael.
"They"= fake Michael (kfcmane) and helper  (appleheadlives=Jorden). The second video I don't know whether Jorden has made it but he is in the commentors, so he must be involve.

 :WTF: Soon this chat will be a pornclub with minors. Shame the esatate is doing nothing about this. The fake Michael shows in slomo how Michael grabs his crotch and that is how he starts in the room with the female guests. There are children here too ! (under 15)
« Last Edit: April 17, 2012, 04:27:55 AM by thea.panina »

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 08:35:38 AM
@thea.panina: thank you for posting that!
I will quote your message in this thread too: MIND GAMES

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 01:12:58 PM
Yeah, I'm smart - too bad I don't use my intellectual abilities, huh?

You are smart, yes, but even you can't apply your abilities fully -
your total scepsis (seems to me) comes from the fear, from inability to make a choice, to place a bet --
for choosing something, you always may fail. You are either unable to distinguish A from B, and B from C,
so you reject ALL. It's understandable, of course, especially here...


That's an excellent analysis. I'd be willing to bet we all had or have the same struggle. For me, I finally had to just take a stand. After years and months of desperately seeking rock solid, hard core, irrefutable proof, I realized... none exists anywhere in the world regarding anyTHING. Take a minute, think about it, you'll see that is the case. You have to take a stand. You have to review the available information and make a decision, what are you going to believe? What makes sense to you? Jump on it, grab it, tackle it to the ground, stick your flag in it and proclaim, this is my TRUTH.

Living in doubt as a hoaxer right now is to live with insecurity in your SELF. Have some confidence. Stand up for your own mind. Stop being so afraid to be wrong.
Are you entertained?

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 01:52:09 PM

... I finally had to just take a stand. After years and months of desperately seeking rock solid,
hard core, irrefutable proof, I realized... none exists anywhere in the world regarding anyTHING.
Take a minute, think about it, you'll see that is the case. You have to take a stand.
 You have to review the available information and make a decision, what are you going to believe?
What makes sense to you? Jump on it, grab it, tackle it to the ground, stick your flag in it and proclaim,
this is my TRUTH. Living in doubt as a hoaxer right now is to live with insecurity in your SELF.
Have some confidence. Stand up for your own mind. Stop being so afraid to be wrong.


Yes, yes, exactly.
Doubting is an integral part of belief, belief without doubts is a fanaticism --
we know this to well -- but once we just ought to make a choice, to take a risk,
to accept this beautiful insecurity of being wrong, defeated, betrayed -- although,
along with a chance to appear correct, to win, to find the answer, to become the whole...
it's frightening, but it's the only way. and the only reason of rejecting this is a fear.
but it's not as hard as some think, religious or military men knows that  --
they chose their dogma and system of views/rules and stick to it, with EASE.

I chose my theory of the hoax long long ago when no one believed the man as I see him
has ever existed. and now i'm happy i didn't give up this vision in my moments of weakness,
for at the end i got what i wanted - to see the essence, to know the truth.
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will YOU still care? will YOU be there??.. ah, well, sure... life is not a song...

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 05:34:36 PM
There's one PeterPanPYT that I know of since 2009 but then many people used his name. PeterPan really sounds like Michael, even when he sings but he never told that he is Michael. Contrarily he insists that he is not Michael. He never showed his face but his voice is incredibly the same with Michael's.

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 05:49:09 PM
@PureLove.... PeterPanPYT did show his face in a video posted on one of his tweets, if I am not wrong he is a young asian guy with a voice very similar to Michael's (he was singing in this video) but when he is talking and you hear with earphones his voice is different comparing to Michael voice.
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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 05:56:47 PM
@PureLove.... PeterPanPYT did show his face in a video posted on one of his tweets, if I am not wrong he is a young asian guy with a voice very similar to Michael's (he was singing in this video) but when he is talking and you hear with earphones his voice is different comparing to Michael voice.

I'm talking about this one. And nope, he is not Asian, he is American. :icon_e_smile:Twitter

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 06:06:56 PM
@PureLove... Yes we are talking about the same guy, he is Asian -American, check his tweets in one of them some months ago he appeared singing, using a black mask that he was removing little by little until he showed his full face, all this while staring at the  mirror. :Pulling_hair:
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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 06:26:52 PM
@PureLove... Yes we are talking about the same guy, he is Asian -American, check his tweets in one of them some months ago he appeared singing, using a black mask that he was removing little by little until he showed his full face, all this while staring at the  mirror. :Pulling_hair:

 :icon_e_biggrin: I didn't see that video. But he posts some other impersonators' videos. Probably it was one of them and not him, I don't know. He never told that he was Michael. He sings during his chats and he definitely sounds like Michael, when he talks too.

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Re: Who is this

  • on: April 17, 2012, 06:53:20 PM
I seriously doubt Michael would:
A) Identify himself as such.
B) He's no longer using "Michael Jackson" as his real name.
C) He's a gentleman, not a lech.

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