What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 11:20:00 AM
wow  seems i remember wwwwaaaaayyyyy back that souza and myself wondered about murray and what it was about him and thinking along the lines of how he looked like a jackson. you guys thougt we were nuts.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 11:22:41 AM
wow  seems i remember wwwwaaaaayyyyy back that souza and myself wondered about murray and what it was about him and thinking along the lines of how he looked like a jackson. you guys thougt we were nuts.

Not all of us.  I, too, remember that time very well.

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 12:00:18 PM
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Photoshop can do miracles. It can make you slim, fat, tall, white, yellow even green! You can get a smaller nose, bigger lips, it can change your haircolour too. So noone should underestimate Photoshop! ! ! It's a miraculous program.

Well yeah but again, that would indicate an intent of what purpose? What's the purpose of photoshopping Murray's appearance if not to insinuate that this man is not real/is someone else in disguise?

Again, there IS a purposeful intent (in my opinion) going on here to suggest that Murray IS MJ in disguise, so as I've long believed, he either IS, OR, someone is taking great pains to make us believe that. But why?
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 12:22:40 PM
Method acting maybe?

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 01:08:52 PM
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Photoshop can do miracles. It can make you slim, fat, tall, white, yellow even green! You can get a smaller nose, bigger lips, it can change your haircolour too. So noone should underestimate Photoshop! ! ! It's a miraculous program.

Well yeah but again, that would indicate an intent of what purpose? What's the purpose of photoshopping Murray's appearance if not to insinuate that this man is not real/is someone else in disguise?

Again, there IS a purposeful intent (in my opinion) going on here to suggest that Murray IS MJ in disguise, so as I've long believed, he either IS, OR, someone is taking great pains to make us believe that. But why?

One reason might be to demonstrate in real time for all to see how easily we can be deceived.   There are certainly others like it's just so crazy funny.

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 01:33:58 PM
Hopefully everyone remembers my opinion on this so I wont touch it.   Can't wait till the mask comes off.   :icon_e_smile:
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 02:17:46 PM
I'm kinda getting older and my memory aint what it used to be... :-\

Could you give us at least a hint? :bowdown:
I do remember you in the lively chat beside the courtroom drama! :D
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
Hopefully everyone remembers my opinion on this so I wont touch it.   Can't wait till the mask comes off.   :icon_e_smile:
hey there ! haven't seen you round since the trial. those were the days huh all the fast paced posting while trying to keep up with all that was goin on then. yes why don't you refresh us. :multiplespotting:
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 04:39:37 PM
Maybe actors play more than one part.  For example, Maybe Michael played Murray for a while, Maybe Travis Payne or someone els also played Murray for a few scenes.  Maybe Murray did some part of it himself ???
This way no one can figure anything out and it would be so hysterical.  I don't know if it's true.  It's just an ideas that crossed my mind a few times.
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 04:46:22 PM
I really can't entertain the idea that Murray isn't an actual human being, but someone wearing a mask or make up!  :affraid: As for more than one person 'playing' him.... :over-react-smiley:  :icon_lol:

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 06:27:01 PM
@mjonmind...

I really feel you are on to the right subject again. I have always thought that this Conrad Murray, just came out of no where, & ends up Michael Jackson's doctor was odd. How come there is no pictures of Conrad Murray with any of Michael's entourage of people? Not one photo of a guy that got sentenced to prison/jail for killing the king of pop, & not one leaked photo? I'm not buying it.

Where is CR serving his sentence? Where's the "jailhouse photo"?
Where's all the patients of his? he was a cardio doctor. Where's his credientials? Where did he go to school? Who were his classmates in grade school, high school, college frat boys? Where are all the people who knew "the CR"? What about family? his parents? Have we ever heard from them? C'mon he "KILLED" the king of pop.

Yikkkkeesss that Eddie Murphy as a fat woman, (in a sexy bikini) yiiiikkkkkeessss, there is no way I would've ever thought that was Eddie Murphy. That celelite looks down right authenic real.

IF, & SAY IF, CR is Michael don't you think that Michael would have to coverup, change, conceal every possible vein, scar, shape of eyes, nose, hands, veins in the hands, add scars, change ear shape, the list is endless.

If anything I feel Michael would have to add features, like scars, skin to areas, implants, cheeks, get rid of the dimple in the chin, those are all TELL TALE signs of "Michael Jackson". That's what the normal brain would be thinking. But us here looks for the "not so obvious" also.

I really feel like the perfect disguise for Michael is being black' Really who's going to think that Michael Jackson is actually disguised as a black man? The mainstream media dinosours have been always making rude comments about "his tooooo many plastic surgies", & bleaching his skin to be white, who would think about Michael actually faking his death & living his life as a black man again. I think that's BRILLIANT!

Again, I'm not saying that CR is Michael, but I can't find another explanation why CR magically came in Michael's life, not know how to do CPR, get sentenced to prison, not know where he is, & no pictures be leaked of him, can walk the beach & not have a soul around. I'm sorry it's not adding up.

If he didn't, he knows there is endless photos of him in every possible pose that would be disected to death. Which is has been on this forum. We don't miss a clue, or we try not too miss a clue.

I mean with technology, & remember Michael in Ghosts, c'mon people, he did it back then, & pulled it off. Men even have 6-pack abs added to their stomache cuz maybe they too lazy to work out to achieve that result, so hey lets just get an implant to look like 6-pack abs.

So MJonmind......I'm with you on this one. it's always been in the back of mind, but I'm pretty good at listening to the other voices in my head, they seem to argue with one another....lol

I'm glad you brought it up again. Because nothing of CR past or present adds up!

Which also leads to the question......if we say the courtroom trial was a fake,  we're all the people in the courtroom identified as being "actors/actresses"? I know I have never saw a courtroom with sooo many stuffed animals..hahaha.

I know the government even has "mock" courtrooms, they admit that.

Just like Where's Waldo?
Where's Conrad Murray?

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 06:49:35 PM
 :animal0017: maybe someone needs to pay a visit to Conrad Murray’s jail ...

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 07:46:35 PM
I wonder how many people called that facility to see if he's actually there? or better yet, How about one of us call and ask to put money, $1 in Conrad Murrays canteen account.?

Does anyone on this forum live near that facility?


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SHIT.....$8.00 to park, & only get 20 minute visit x3, if I do my math correct that's $24 a week.

Wonder what "special handle inmates" is?...same amount of time---1 hr, but only 2x per week.
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 10:03:09 PM
Yes...that celulite does look real....I have seen real celulite before :-\

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 01, 2012, 10:56:51 PM
I think when people look for comparisons of CR to Michael, they looking at obvious things, hands, ears, height, eyes, etc. Putting that picture of the sexy woman in the bikini (eddie in fat suit) & picture of Eddie next to it, what could anyone ever point out that would be similiar to each other?

And to be able to say it's a "man" in a fat suit?

IF, & I use the word "if" loosely is CR is Michael, looking for clues on him to match up to what Michael's old photos, is not going to be there.

Look at Tyler Perry, as Madea, & other roles he plays, if you didn't know it was actually Tyler Perry playing all those different roles, do you think you would've guessed?

Eddie Murphy in The Nutty Professor.  He had multiple roles. All dressed different, fat, slimmer, darker, lighter, etc...


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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 01:12:27 AM
I really hope it's true.  That Conrad Murray documentary was funny enough as it is.  But if that's really Michael ranting and saying 'fooking' several times......the only thing funnier than watching it would be to be watching Michael working with the script writers, assuming he had some help.

I have to say it again.  I feel an overwhelming sense of wonder at being able to witness the unraveling in real time of this great work. 

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 01:22:04 AM
those were the days huh all the fast paced posting while trying to keep up with all that was goin on then.


hey dont forget the 3am starts for us here in australia. yeah those were the days. almost killed me!
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 03:14:42 AM
Gwynned, yes the Murray Documentary was funny and strange in so many ways. I've collected all the videos of interviews and footage of him talking, etc. Though I can't find any glimmers of MJ there, and it all seems so genuine, so impossible to be MJ, the only thing that keeps me wondering is this-- we know MJ is alive--there's a good chance Murray (or Robert Earl Carter) is acting as a doctor/personality so he is already fake.  Even as another person, Murray is acting at Oscar level for sure. Totally deserves many medals! Then it only has to be taken to one other level of difficulty--MJ in a fat suit.  Is MJ really that good at acting, doing accents, doing facial and hand motions different than his usual way.

I totally totally realize how impossible it seems as I watch these clips of him talking. Even all the people around him seem SO very authentic, not to be acting.  Yet we know MJ is alive. :screaming-7365: :screaming-7365: :screaming-7365: :screaming-7365:

Anyway here are the vidoes:

Channel  4 Interview with Conrad Murray
Michael Jackson and The Doctor Documentary - YouTube
CM Documentary directed by MJ 2010
Dr. Conrad Murray Documentary Directed by Michael Jackson 2010 - YouTube
CM on the ‘Today Show’, inter view
DR.Conrad Murray On The "Today" Show 11-11-11 - YouTube

MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 1
Michael Jackson and the Doctor: A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary P1 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 2
Michael Jackson and The Doctor Documentary Part 2 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 3
3 Michael Jackson and the Doctor A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary P3 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 4
4 Michael Jackson and the Doctor A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary P4 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 5
5 Michael Jackson and the Doctor A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary P5 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 6
6 Michael Jackson and the Doctor A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary P6 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 7
7 Michael Jackson and the Doctor A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary P7 - YouTube
MJ and the Doctor Doc Part 8
8 Michael Jackson and the Doctor A Fatal Friendship 2011 Documentary 8 of 8 - YouTube

I almost give up on my theory, yet there is just some hope still left--and so many hints, clues, odd things that I hang on. :icon_albino:


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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 03:23:06 AM
I've always and will always have a small belief that Conrad is Michael in disguise. It's always been in the back of my mind :suspect:


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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 04:28:04 AM
I've always and will always have a small belief that Conrad is Michael in disguise. It's always been in the back of my mind :suspect:
Exactly me!  And it's based on other things also--like his ability to perform the Mayor in Ghost, and DD on Larry King Live, and more.  It's funny to me that in the official movie world he was given such pathetic roles like his cameo appearances in Men in Black 2, and Miss Cast Away and the Island Girls.  As if he was so incapable, weak, and a has-been.  Even in the Murray documentary, Murray says how naive and like a child MJ was. If MJ is Murray, I doubt there is any actor who could act on this caliber. Like Thriller, Michael would have raised the bar so high again--never been done before. But that's a big IF... :icon_bounce:

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 05:27:31 AM
I've always and will always have a small belief that Conrad is Michael in disguise. It's always been in the back of my mind :suspect:
Exactly me!  And it's based on other things also--like his ability to perform the Mayor in Ghost, and DD on Larry King Live, and more.  It's funny to me that in the official movie world he was given such pathetic roles like his cameo appearances in Men in Black 2, and Miss Cast Away and the Island Girls.  As if he was so incapable, weak, and a has-been.  Even in the Murray documentary, Murray says how naive and like a child MJ was. If MJ is Murray, I doubt there is any actor who could act on this caliber. Like Thriller, Michael would have raised the bar so high again--never been done before. But that's a big IF... :icon_bounce:

Wouldn't surprise me if Michael deliberately looked incapable in those cameo appearances.  Part of a plan to keep people off track. 

And I gotta say, that he could keep a straight face playing Murray is amazing enough.  MJonmind, great clips.  Makes me wonder what kind of a mind could invent a character like Murray.   :Michael_Jackson_smiley_by_red

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 06:26:53 AM
didnt MJ say that he wore glasses to disguise the eyes, as they were an open window to his soul... (it was possibly someone else who said it about MJ)

i guess my point is, if you wnt your answer about CM being MJ, then look at CM's eyes. MJs eyes could never be disgiused no matter how much make up / fat suits he were to put on. they are distinct.




dead give away on the eyes...





again the eyes...




here is CM to refresh our memories...






now i am not saying it's not possible, because i too like MJfan7 in the back of my mind am waiting for CMs big reveal, peel off the face mask, etc. (i have a wild imagination) i mean wouldnt that be the icing on the cake... that the man who went to jail for the murder of MJ was MJ himself.. wouldnt that show the holes in the justice system...

but then when i look at CM's eyes, i dont see a trace of MJ....

not saying its not possible. but the eyes are for me the thing to go by... and MJ isnt there..


any other viewpoints on my post?
« Last Edit: June 02, 2012, 06:31:25 AM by Australian MJ BeLIEver »
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 07:00:59 AM
I agree with MJ Australian Believer, Michael is not behind CM. Perhaps CM, MJ attitudes takes to appear less guilty. I do not know.
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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 08:40:17 AM
Is there a photo of Murray smiling? If it is Michael we can tell by his teeth. That is if he isnt
wearing false ones.

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Re: What IF Conrad Murray is MJ

  • on: June 02, 2012, 08:55:47 AM
I found a pic of Murray in an outdoor spa. Does not look like michaels body at all. You can see from around the waist up. Dont know how to copy it on here, but someone might know how.