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Military Jacket Found

  • on: November 30, 2012, 10:51:15 PM
Interesting jacket they have found on a post-Sandy NJ beach. Why does it look familiar? Also interesting wording in the article about what the jacket represents.

http://news.yahoo.com/lost-military-jacket-found-post-sandy-nj-beach-103848150.html

Sorry, I forget how to add the picture.

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: November 30, 2012, 11:08:23 PM


That's a crazy coincidence.
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: November 30, 2012, 11:12:09 PM


Ya it totally looks like the jackets the TII dancers wore at the funeral.  Too bad the photo doesn't show more of the jacket.

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: November 30, 2012, 11:24:55 PM
Sorry the pic is so big, btw. That's the size the news site has it posted at.
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: November 30, 2012, 11:31:02 PM


Ya it totally looks like the jackets the TII dancers wore at the funeral.  Too bad the photo doesn't show more of the jacket.

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A West Point uniform jacket belonging to the late Chester deGavre that was found at a New Jersey beach by Donna Gugger of Holland, Pa. after Superstorm Sandy, is shown Wednesday in Onacock, Va.

http://www.indianagazette.com/b_news/article_4db7b598-2bf5-5739-b77f-facaedd98d6b.html

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 12:05:38 AM
Weird... thats the exact same jacket the dancers from TII wore to Michael's funeral...  :suspect:


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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 12:18:32 AM
Yep. And in the article it says the widow saw the jackets return as "...nothing less than a symbol of resurrection and renewal in a landscape scarred by sorrow and loss." Things that make you go "hmmmmmm" or "Holy Crap!" Not sure which.  :icon_lol:

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 12:28:28 AM
Amazing! More CLUES on clothes!  :icon_e_wink:
I've always wondered why so many people were so stubborn and refused to accept all the clues on clothes we've received so far!
It's more and more OBVIOUS that the clothes (designs, colors) have played a MAJOR part in the hoax ever since the very beginning , even before!
Clothes are an important "tool" to body language!! which is subtle, encoded... perfect for hoax purposes!! Only refined, keen observes catch the hidden message!!
And when it comes to ARTISTS! even more so! NEVER ignore clothes!

THE CLOTHES "SPEAK" clues TO US ---> https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.197492363641122.48889.197418280315197&type=3
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 12:44:11 AM


Oh this is so much fun! Love it! Wonder what will turn up tomorrow?!  :)

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 02:25:56 AM
so until bam, perhaps a treasure hunt....

i *so* like this!
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 02:32:23 AM
hang on though... the dancers don't have that arm stuff going on on their jackets. (the gold and black stuff in the shape of a v)
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 02:56:49 AM
Ahhhhh how I love this....

washed ashore - thought to be lost but found - thought to be old but fresh as new

Why am I reminded of another "washed ashore" thought to be extinct

« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 02:58:26 AM by ellyd »

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 10:50:45 AM
  To me it seems to be the same jacket that the dancer wore at the funeral. :icon_question:

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 11:29:22 AM


Ya it totally looks like the jackets the TII dancers wore at the funeral.  Too bad the photo doesn't show more of the jacket.

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A West Point uniform jacket belonging to the late Chester deGavre that was found at a New Jersey beach by Donna Gugger of Holland, Pa. after Superstorm Sandy, is shown Wednesday in Onacock, Va.

http://www.indianagazette.com/b_news/article_4db7b598-2bf5-5739-b77f-facaedd98d6b.html


Thanks pepper!   :)

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 12:19:06 PM
hang on though... the dancers don't have that arm stuff going on on their jackets. (the gold and black stuff in the shape of a v)


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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 12:38:06 PM


Oh this is so much fun! Love it! Wonder what will turn up tomorrow?!  :)

Michael's shirt from the "Liberian girl" video!! And may be the camera as well!! :LolLolLolLol:  That would be more than enough!
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 02:20:23 PM
The stripes are added to military jackets to indicate rank. The dancers wore the equivalent of a Private's jacket (lowest rank). The found jacket indicates it belonged to someone of higher rank.
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 02:56:56 PM
Well, well, it even goes further...

Mr. deGavre was a General according to this source.
http://www.wardmuseum.org/Exhibits/ArtistsArchive/GeneralChesterBdeGavre/tabid/218/Default.aspx

He did carve waterfowl as his hobby and contributed to exhibits at Ward Museum. One of them being called

"Decoy in Time".



General deGavre died from cardiovascular collapse.

This is a true old uniform - unmistakable small but important differences from original (collar, size and form of appliqués)

http://www.kmialumni.org/uniforms.html

to replica:


Historical auction of a true West Point uniform:
http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1083&lotIdNo=5125#23552355312

I just stumbled upon this.
This is Mr. Petraeus graduating from West Point with a lot more decoration than the alleged jacket for General deGavre.
« Last Edit: December 01, 2012, 03:22:08 PM by ellyd »

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 03:15:19 PM
Unless this is a clue, the story seems a bit preposterous.  Why would a military jacket be such a symbol of resurrection?  In fact, to me the story is barely interesting among all the other stories.  A symbol of Resurrection?  The owner had a 'heart like a stormy sea'? 

And then the final comment:

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"It's a miracle because it's still a mystery how it made it to that beach and for me to have even had the opportunity to pick it up. It's not really about the jacket, it's about the journey."

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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 03:35:46 PM

This is a true old uniform - unmistakable small but important differences from original (collar, size and form of appliqués)

http://www.kmialumni.org/uniforms.html

to replica:


Historical auction of a true West Point uniform:
http://historical.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleNo=1083&lotIdNo=5125#23552355312

I just stumbled upon this.
This is Mr. Petraeus graduating from West Point with a lot more decoration than the alleged jacket for General deGavre.


That's interesting, but it looks like there are more then one true types of West Point jacket. Might be formal and regular uniform versions because the last pic (of Mr. Petraeus) the jacket is of the same type as the one washed up, not the type in the display in the first pic. The stripes are different but I believe those patches (stripes and otherwise adornments) are added/traded out as the person's rank changes/accomplishments.

It's a really freaky weird coincidence though, and article does read very subtly hoaxy. I have no idea why a military jacket would be a symbol of resurrection, unless it's because the jacket was lost years ago and then found after the storm and was able to be fully restored.
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 03:49:27 PM
That's the point. The washed up jacket looks like the recent style, not like the old style. That's why I consider it to be a replica / recent model and the story to be a lie. Maybe there's someone here really knowing about the jacket style differences.

In the context with the burial uniforms:
we remember TIAI redirects 31 and 32 to "George" http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=1930.

Even though TS explained the redirects were referring to two other Georges, this third George has a link to West Point:
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George Washington stands above all others as the conceptual founder of the Military Academy. He considered the site of West Point to be so strategic and significant during the American Revolution that he called it the key to the continent.
http://www.revolutionaryday.com/usroute9w/westpoint/default.htm
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 04:46:24 PM
Wow, I'm so daft sometimes. Thanks miss G and Bec
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 05:28:52 PM
@Australian MJ BeLIEver   Wow, I'm so daft sometimes. Thanks miss G and Bec 


 :icon_razz: me too.... Thanks guys for your great job !!!   :Michael_Jackson_dancing_smile   :compute:  :bowdown:
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Re: Military Jacket Found

  • on: December 01, 2012, 05:38:35 PM
I think you guys mean ellyd? MissG hasn't posted on this thread, I don't think?

I just want to clarify, to me the found jacket does look like the one Mr. P is wearing in the old pic, only the patches/stars are different. I don't think the old pic of Mr. P wearing his jacket looks like the one in the display case. That's why I was saying maybe there are different style jackets used by West Point for different occasions over the years.

It's still a crazy coincidence, especially with the article's wording.
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