Jermaine Jackson on Michael's death:The doctor was just a pawn in the game

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http://www.vg.no/rampelys/artikkel.php?artid=10113936

Jackson's brother death: - There were more involved

See video of Jermaine here:


http://www.vgtv.no/#!/video/61350/jermaine-jackson-om-broren-michaels-død-legen-var-bare-en-brikke-i-spillet


 Jermaine Jackson believes the doctor Conrad Murray killed his brother Michael Jackson.

Last year, Michael Jackson's doctor Conrad Murray sentenced to four years in prison for manslaughter in the superstar. now taking his brother Jermaine Jackson speaks out, and in tonight's episode of "Skavlan" he says about what he thinks about his brother's death.





- They want the world to believe that a black man murdered than black men, but the doctor was just a finger of a larger hand. There are many more involved, says Jackson. Fredrik Skavlan is visited by "The Jackson Five" and ask the brothers what they think about the doctor Conrad Murray. - When the news comes over here think ye of what ye hear of Sky News, Euronews, CNN and Fox News, but it's not the truth. It was much more interference continues Jermaine Jackson. Michael Jackson died suddenly of heart failure after receiving an overdose of including anesthetic agent propofol. - What they hide? He tells the brothers still do not know who came into the house where Jackson was found as surveillance video from the night of the murder was deleted. Read about Michael Jackson's death here - How can the authorities delete films? Who covers for, who they hide? Ask Jackson, and adds: - I do not want my brother's death will be a mystery to us or the public. We want the world to know what really happened. Cardiac doctor was hired as Jackson's personal physician while the pop king planned the grand concert comeback in London in 2009. Some concerts were never there. Instead, the world was shocked by the star's sudden death 25 June 2009. Murray was sentenced in November 2011 to four years in prison for manslaughter in the superstar.
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I agree Jermaine, I want the world to know what really happened to him too. Thanks for posting finin!

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Thanks for sharing finfin.
Jermain is pointing out that another black man was found guilty of manslaughter without digging deeply the cause of death just for the mere fact of being a black man and have killed another black man although the most famous entertainer in the world. And when he says "the finger of a larger hand" he is referring to that behind this act there is something bigger that one day the whole world will learn, for example the pressure he had from the NWO to take everything out of him.
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Surveillance footage from Michael Jackson's home on the day he died has reportedly been lost forever after police officers allegedly failed to make a full copy.

 The pop superstar passed away on 25 June, 2009 after suffering a drug overdose and his personal doctor, Conrad Murray, is facing trial over allegations he administered the fatal dose of Propofol.

 Murray, who has denied a charge of involuntary manslaughter, will face the courts in May and his legal team is reportedly set to ask officers from the Los Angeles Police Department (LAPD) to hand over 24 hours of surveillance footage from Jackson's home covering the day he died.

 Shortly after the King of Pop's passing, cops were said to be desperately searching for the CCTV tapes from Jackson's Los Angeles mansion which could provide clues as to what happened on the day he died, but a new report suggests the film will never be found.

 Police initially probing Jackson's death are said to have copied just four minutes of footage, which showed the singer arriving home, before handing the tapes back. They were then reportedly put back into the security system which erased them as part of a 24 hour loop, according to TMZ.com.
 
http://web.orange.co.uk/article/news/jackson_surveillance_tapes_deleted

http://www.tmz.com/2011/03/15/michael-jackson-died-dr-conrad-murray-surveillance-video-lapd-cops-court-order/

http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=172&t=18277


Those missing surveillance tapes might be a significant piece of the puzzle to the truth, i hope they will appear somehow, i truly hope so. Like Jermaine said, there's more to it than we all have been fed by the media. I agree with Jermaine, the world wants to know what really happened, we're waiting for the truth & and nothing but the truth.
Thanks for posting finfin.

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Exactly everlasting, those tapes are the main piece to this puzzle, in those surveillance tapes we could watch if Murray really killed Michael and/or if he did his best to bring him back to life (in case Murray really killed Michael), that would be an irrefutable proof for the judge to condemn Murray or not, why were these tapes erased?? simple, because if there existed these tapes the hoax wouldn't exist due to we had seen what really happened the day in question within those 4 walls.
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I agree Jermaine, I want the world to know what really happened to him too. Thanks for posting finin!


Beautiful words , and thanks Fin for sharing.  :bearhug:
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Thanks Finfin!  I'm looking forward to the next part in this thriller action real life movie.

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What they hide? He tells the brothers still do not know who came into the house where Jackson was found as surveillance video from the night of the murder was deleted. Read about Michael Jackson's death here - How can the authorities delete films? Who covers for, who they hide? Ask Jackson, and adds: - I do not want my brother's death will be a mystery to us or the public. We want the world to know what really happened.

Yes. And seems like we will never get to know about it.

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Here is the full interview with The Jacksons from 39mins available until 20 March - well worth watching imo

http://tv.nrk.no/serie/skavlan/kmte60003512/15-02-2013
 

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What they hide? He tells the brothers still do not know who came into the house where Jackson was found as surveillance video from the night of the murder was deleted. Read about Michael Jackson's death here - How can the authorities delete films? Who covers for, who they hide? Ask Jackson, and adds: - I do not want my brother's death will be a mystery to us or the public. We want the world to know what really happened.

Yes. And seems like we will never get to know about it.

We discussed this somewhere on the forum & I remember the explanation being something relating to the looping of the tape and the timing causing it to erase itself.  Anyone else remember?
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Here is the full interview with The Jacksons from 39mins available until 20 March - well worth watching imo

http://tv.nrk.no/serie/skavlan/kmte60003512/15-02-2013

I watched the repeat on Swedish Television this evening. It is an interesting interview to say the least.

There are many strange things that come up here. Among others the number of shows that Michael was scheduled to perform. The brothers said that he was asked to do 100 and that Michael got it down to 52. And then the brothers stated that they were going to perform some of the shows together with Michael.

Skavlan states that Michael was in a bad place before he died. The brothers told him that he was misinformed, that we were all led to believe this by the media. CNN and Sky were mentioned. The media and their leading us up the garden path were mentioned on at least two occasions during the interview.

Then the doctor being a finger on a bigger hand was mentioned at least twice by Jermaine. Family unity among the Jacksons was also emphasized.

In conclusion- the interview with the Jacksons focused more on the death of Michael Jackson than on their current Unity Tour, something that in itself was interesting.

Wyclef Jean was another guest on this programme. He also was interviewed about Michael Jackson and his meeting with Michael Jackson. In fact he thought someone was pulling his leg when the person on the phone said he was Michael Jackson.  Then WYCLEF  sang his big hit Someone call 911!

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Don't forget:    "We last saw Michael op May the 14th, two weeks before he past"

so that brings us to somewhere at the end of May...
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Just one observation, after almost 4 years, I don't think the brothers should be doing the whole breaking down crying and stuff.  It just looks way too goofy and fake now.  I felt embarrassed for them...  Marlon was already looking so fake a while ago when crying that he didn't know where his mother was.  I mean even Katherine isn't breaking down all emotional now.  If the public DO believe Marlon's tears, then I'm surprised they don't think he's a little 'off' mentally. Maybe Marlon's role is meant to be more emotionally unstable.  I think Jermaine's the best actor by far, of the 5 brothers. JMO

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Just one observation, after almost 4 years, I don't think the brothers should be doing the whole breaking down crying and stuff.  It just looks way too goofy and fake now.  I felt embarrassed for them...  Marlon was already looking so fake a while ago when crying that he didn't know where his mother was.  I mean even Katherine isn't breaking down all emotional now.  If the public DO believe Marlon's tears, then I'm surprised they don't think he's a little 'off' mentally. Maybe Marlon's role is meant to be more emotionally unstable.  I think Jermaine's the best actor by far, of the 5 brothers. JMO

I thought the breaking down and crying bit was pretty strange too. There was this odd pause while the crying went on  and then the brothers tried to comfort him by switching topics. Skavlan just looked very suprised so perhaps this had not been rehearsed... It was a little surprise by the brothers perhaps...

I felt bad about having a wee giggle during this "bad" moment so it was interesting to read about your reaction, Mind! 

And I agree- I think Jermaine handles his "role" with great conviction. Hope to see the full hand soon and not just that one irritating finger... :Pulling_hair:

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Just one observation, after almost 4 years, I don't think the brothers should be doing the whole breaking down crying and stuff.  It just looks way too goofy and fake now.  I felt embarrassed for them...  Marlon was already looking so fake a while ago when crying that he didn't know where his mother was.  I mean even Katherine isn't breaking down all emotional now.  If the public DO believe Marlon's tears, then I'm surprised they don't think he's a little 'off' mentally. Maybe Marlon's role is meant to be more emotionally unstable.  I think Jermaine's the best actor by far, of the 5 brothers. JMO

I thought the breaking down and crying bit was pretty strange too. There was this odd pause while the crying went on  and then the brothers tried to comfort him by switching topics. Skavlan just looked very suprised so perhaps this had not been rehearsed... It was a little surprise by the brothers perhaps...

I felt bad about having a wee giggle during this "bad" moment so it was interesting to read about your reaction, Mind! 

And I agree- I think Jermaine handles his "role" with great conviction. Hope to see the full hand soon and not just that one irritating finger... :Pulling_hair:

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 :omg: :LolLolLolLol: i had the same reaction about jackie !  i lost my own sister in nov. of 2009 and it really seemed over the top to me.
i can not for the life of me figure why no interviewers mention the time thing and why no one ask why randy has not been part of the tour.

edit: also jermaine says that they were going to ( after the 020) tour as the jackson 5 i thought motown owned that name and they couldn't use it. :icon_e_confused:
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Well, I noticed a couple of odd things in this interview (thanks finfin for posting the link).

Firstly, Jermaine and then Jackie seemed determined, without being specifically asked,  to get their 'where were you when you heard Michael had died' stories out there again as if to really hammer home that yes, MJ is dead.  Really, really odd, was Jackie's story: he was shopping in Las Vegas with Michael's kids, Michael's two sons......He cried, was comforted, but felt the need to finish his story, again repeating that he had the kids with him and it was hard packing the bags to get a plane to LA.

Now, I can go along with Blanket being with Jackie, I don't remember him ever being mentioned in relation to events of June 25th but,  please correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Prince supposed to be at Carolwood - heck wasn't there even talk of getting him up on the witness stand at one point?

So, Jackie, was that a nod to anyone paying attention, that your story doesn't match the 'official' one?

And then, Jermaine and his story of how the May 14th ( 2 weeks before Michael passed?) family get together came about.  He says he and Janet were in the South of France watching the Formula 1 and they decided to do something for their parents so they came back and Janet set about organising the dinner with LaToya.  The Monaco F1 Grand Prix was held on the weekend of 21st - 24th May 2009, (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/calendar/7910118.stm) so that story doesn't make sense either!  And even if his geography is a bit off and they were actually in Spain for the previous race, on 8th - 10th May, I doubt 4 days is long enough to get home, get the whole family available, book the meal etc.)

So, Jermaine, this isn't quite how it happened is it?!
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Curls I see him pointing in the direction of either Marlon or Jermaine when he says "I was in Las Vegas, shopping with his two sons".

So I think he doesn´t mean Michael´s sons.

As for the rest: very odd, inconclusive and confusing indeed.
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Also, i remember one of the siblings (sorry i cant remember which one) says that the last time they all saw Michael was a month before he passed for Joseph and Katherine's 60th wedding anniversary, but they got married in Novemeber, so thats strange! This article here says the same thing, that 'A month after the 60th wedding anniversary, was June 25th. http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2011/nov/05/michael-jackson-brother-tito-family



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Curls I see him pointing in the direction of either Marlon or Jermaine when he says "I was in Las Vegas, shopping with his two sons".

So I think he doesn´t mean Michael´s sons.


Yeah, you could be right Mary.  Makes more sense that way.


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Well, I noticed a couple of odd things in this interview (thanks finfin for posting the link).

Firstly, Jermaine and then Jackie seemed determined, without being specifically asked,  to get their 'where were you when you heard Michael had died' stories out there again as if to really hammer home that yes, MJ is dead.  Really, really odd, was Jackie's story: he was shopping in Las Vegas with Michael's kids, Michael's two sons......He cried, was comforted, but felt the need to finish his story, again repeating that he had the kids with him and it was hard packing the bags to get a plane to LA.

Now, I can go along with Blanket being with Jackie, I don't remember him ever being mentioned in relation to events of June 25th but,  please correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Prince supposed to be at Carolwood - heck wasn't there even talk of getting him up on the witness stand at one point?

So, Jackie, was that a nod to anyone paying attention, that your story doesn't match the 'official' one?

And then, Jermaine and his story of how the May 14th ( 2 weeks before Michael passed?) family get together came about.  He says he and Janet were in the South of France watching the Formula 1 and they decided to do something for their parents so they came back and Janet set about organising the dinner with LaToya.  The Monaco F1 Grand Prix was held on the weekend of 21st - 24th May 2009, (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/calendar/7910118.stm) so that story doesn't make sense either!  And even if his geography is a bit off and they were actually in Spain for the previous race, on 8th - 10th May, I doubt 4 days is long enough to get home, get the whole family available, book the meal etc.)

So, Jermaine, this isn't quite how it happened is it?!

first off the interviewer ask what is the most outragous  thing that has been said about any of you. and jermaine picks that they are disfunctional  :Pulling_hair:seriously most families are to some degree. i think jackie was saying he was with jermaines kids ( taken up the slack imo) since he has been with prince michael also remember. only thing about this is does jermaine have two young boys or only one? other option is that he was with two of 3t.  so then i am guessing that the thing about the race was to suggest that they all hang out together , that they are tight as a family. same with the dinner thing two sisters lovingly putting this thing together for their parents. just my guess  by the way i loved the part about who was mama kates favorite.
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Well, I noticed a couple of odd things in this interview (thanks finfin for posting the link).

Firstly, Jermaine and then Jackie seemed determined, without being specifically asked,  to get their 'where were you when you heard Michael had died' stories out there again as if to really hammer home that yes, MJ is dead.  Really, really odd, was Jackie's story: he was shopping in Las Vegas with Michael's kids, Michael's two sons......He cried, was comforted, but felt the need to finish his story, again repeating that he had the kids with him and it was hard packing the bags to get a plane to LA.

Now, I can go along with Blanket being with Jackie, I don't remember him ever being mentioned in relation to events of June 25th but,  please correct me if I'm wrong, wasn't Prince supposed to be at Carolwood - heck wasn't there even talk of getting him up on the witness stand at one point?

So, Jackie, was that a nod to anyone paying attention, that your story doesn't match the 'official' one?

And then, Jermaine and his story of how the May 14th ( 2 weeks before Michael passed?) family get together came about.  He says he and Janet were in the South of France watching the Formula 1 and they decided to do something for their parents so they came back and Janet set about organising the dinner with LaToya.  The Monaco F1 Grand Prix was held on the weekend of 21st - 24th May 2009, (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/formula_one/calendar/7910118.stm) so that story doesn't make sense either!  And even if his geography is a bit off and they were actually in Spain for the previous race, on 8th - 10th May, I doubt 4 days is long enough to get home, get the whole family available, book the meal etc.)

So, Jermaine, this isn't quite how it happened is it?!

Yes thank you @curls - this dates thing is all weird - here is a LunaJo 67 video discussing the wedding anniversary
 :suspect: in fact LunaJo's vids are a good reminder of the family inconsistencies and slip ups
                                                         
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Thanks Finfin, great video!

Jermaine said above that the brothers were going to perform the last half of the tour as Jackson 5. And good point, Suspicious, that Motown owned the name Jackson 5, and it had to be The Jacksons.

But In the video by LunaJo67, Al Sharpton said MJ had asked them to do something with him on (only) the last couple of dates (tour).  So which is it?  I know in the Glenda tapes MJ said his brothers were always pushing him to perform with him together and he didn't want to.

Also in the LunaJo67 video, interesting that Leonard Rowe met with AEG the day after the 60th Anniversary on May16, telling AEG that they were unethical about some things and that they were controlling MJ.  Shouldn't Leonard Rowe also be called to testify at the KJ/AEG trial coming up?