Media Reporting On " Michael Jackson's Death-- Conspiracy theories"

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/culture/music/michael-jackson/8867794/Michael-Jacksons-death-conspiracy-theories-Conrad-Murray.html

The Telegraph  Monday 22nd April 2013.

Michael Jackson's death: conspiracy theories
A series of conspiracy theories have circulated on the internet in the wake of Michael Jackson’s death.

Is Michael Jackson living in Mexico? Photo: AP



Theory: Michael Jackson faked his own death to escape money worries and start a new life.

For: Heavily in debt and under pressure from creditors to boost his finances with the gruelling 50-date London residency the King of Pop may have wanted to flee.

Against: The Los Angeles coroner’s office carried out a post mortem and expressed no doubts that the body was Jackson's

Theory: Michael Jackson was killed by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad to distract attention from Iran.

For: The King of Pop’s death was perfectly timed for the wobbling Iranian regime. Just as reports of its post-election clampdown were provoking howls of protest in the West, and pushing the previously hesitant President Obama to say he was “appalled and outraged", Jackson’s death sucked media attention from Persia to Bel Air. “Michael Jackson RIP” replaced "#iranelection” at the top of Twitter’s trending topics, effectively killing off the last hopes of a revolution.

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Against: No evidence whatsoever.

Theory: Michael Jackson died two years earlier and was replaced by an impersonator when he announced his tour at a press conference.

For: Michael Jackson’s appearance at the O2 arena to promote his London dates was bizarre, even by his standards. Arriving 90 minutes late, he led the crowd in a brief chant of “This Is It” before leaving the stage with an unfamiliar walk. Conspiracy theorists claimed he looked too tall and his fingers were too stumpy.

Against: His entire family would have had to be in on the deception.

Theory: Michael Jackson crossed the border into Mexico and a double with a terminal illness died in his place.

For: Websites claimed a border patrol officer had seen Jackson crossing from California to Mexico shortly after his reported death

Against: There have been no sightings of him in Mexico in the last two years.
 
   
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Nice to see something in print regarding theories and the positions for and against but it sounds pretty half-hearted to me.  It sounds more like a filler piece than anything investigative to be followed up on.
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Halfhearted it may be but it's great to see a 'serious' paper giving this an airing.  Just like that other piece yesterday about doubles, soon no-one will be in the dark about all the weird and wonderful 'theories' that hoax sites have contemplated for four years!  I'm loving it!

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And it's funny 2 :) So the pres. of Iran killed MJ to distract attention :) ...


The first theory is one I 've heard and/or read many times.
But I don't get why people thinking that could be the reason.

After MJ's Thriller Killer Speech and owned "have of Sony", I saw another video on youtube.
I think I posted it on Hoaxbook...

In that video a man said, that MJ earns 800 milion a year now, thanks to that "deal" in combination with the catalogue he bought.
So how, can a man earning such a amount of cash every year, be in dept as some media outlets and hoaxers believe? :)

But, as Curls said, it's great to see such paper is finally reporting some of the hoax theories!
I hope many other outlets will follow :)
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Wouldn't it be ironic if the media came to Murray's rescue, the man who killed The King of Pop, by providing proof that Michael didn't die on June 25th? 
The media all but killed him with slanderous lies, now they might just do the "resurrection" themselves, lol. 
And the beat goes on..........

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Wouldn't it be ironic if the media came to Murray's rescue, the man who killed The King of Pop, by providing proof that Michael didn't die on June 25th? 
The media all but killed him with slanderous lies, now they might just do the "resurrection" themselves, lol. 


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Halfhearted it may be but it's great to see a 'serious' paper giving this an airing.  Just like that other piece yesterday about doubles, soon no-one will be in the dark about all the weird and wonderful 'theories' that hoax sites have contemplated for four years!  I'm loving it!

Why? It just further discredits us and the hoax to the passive observer.
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Our time will come bec, our time will come!  I'm way past worrying about what 'passive observers' think.  They're not going to remain passive for ever, and articles like this one must be sowing seeds even if they don't know it yet!

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Theory: Michael Jackson crossed the border into Mexico and a double with a terminal illness died in his place.

This is what caught my attention.

Curls, I too think that a serious newspaper talking about MJ's hoax theories is an important step ahead.
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Halfhearted it may be but it's great to see a 'serious' paper giving this an airing.  Just like that other piece yesterday about doubles, soon no-one will be in the dark about all the weird and wonderful 'theories' that hoax sites have contemplated for four years!  I'm loving it!

Why? It just further discredits us and the hoax to the passive observer.

I actually think they and many others in media (and among celebs) now can see that it is obvious that MJ hoaxed his death but are deliberately teetering the edge for a few reasons.

1) The majority of the world has not looked close enough and believe he is dead. If those in the know start calling out definite hoax, they may be worried about reader backlash amongst deaders, which lets face it is millions upon million of people

2) The family are still calling out "dead" and newpapers are all too familiar with Jackson related Lawsuits, so they are playing their cards right by sitting on the fence and not revealing or standing 100% behind their opinion. Being vague. Quoting others. In fact they often instead of saying, they believe something, say their are others that believe (us hoaxers) to avoid being quoted and responsible for statements.

Yes I agree, it does discredit the hoax by providing for and against arguments. THe good thing though, is that the arguments 'for' are actually stronger than the arguments 'against' in this particular article. They know the hoax is real, they are being careful how they report it. Deliberately.

I think a number of media outlets would be onto it by now. Or at least that something isn't right in camp Jackson... Of course when the hoax emerges, they will make up all kinds of sordid reasons on why he did it to sell papers.. So, I am def not over crediting them on this story. Because it is all for selfish purpose not because they stand behind truth or anything of a moral nature.

c) I think also they want to be seen as one of the first who reported whispers of a hoax (Even though it had been done by RTL back in 09, amongst a few other reports) That way when it comes out they will reference this article and say, we were one of the first to be suspicious about the hoax when we reported this back in April 2013... so again... Selfish interests...

But yeah, I do think there have to be several outlets now that are on to the hoax. They surely couldn't be that dumb to miss it all - with their job being to be investigators and all...

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« Last Edit: April 23, 2013, 06:45:11 PM by Australian MJ BeLIEver »
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If you ask me, they (the media) have allready made a full roadbook ( with docu's like: how he did it, why he did it etc.), so that they can use that when MJ comes back.
I can not believe that they aren't aware of this hoax and all the contradictions around the "death" of Michael.
Just Like Ausie said, they can not come with it, because then they harm themselves rightnow.

We have so many guests on this forum everyday, I bet that some of them are reporters.
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We have so many guests on this forum everyday, I bet that some of them are reporters.

yep! thats why the forum has been quoted in media several times.

ah! silly me. thats why they don't to investigate. everyone here is doing it for them!  :icon_mad:
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ah! silly me. thats why they don't to investigate. everyone here is doing it for them! 

Right we should have a MJ's hoax payroll  :icon_lol:
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ah! silly me. thats why they don't to investigate. everyone here is doing it for them! 

Right we should have a MJ's hoax payroll  :icon_lol:



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I think you guys give the media entirely too much credit.

As much soul searching as all of us do around here in trying to cope with this hoax knowledge, I don't see any of them succumbing to the obvious. It's politically incorrect to believe MJ hoaxed his death, cultural pressure to believe the "authorities" overrules common sense fairly regularly.

To some, deep in their hearts, they may believe something isn't right, but to run with that, overturn every rock and pebble, and sift through the details to arrive at a confident place where the hoax suddenly becomes the only viable answer to explain it all away, takes a HUGE leap of faith... in MJ... and if we know anything at all, we know the media has no faith in MJ at all.

Look at all the hoax believers who have come n gone. People who have done their due diligence and yet fell off the hoax wagon due to duration of time, people who love MJ, have faith in MJ, who see MJ for who he really is... they have let go n moved on. I don't see your average journalist believing any of this.

If for no reason other then they have to spread their time n focus out over all the current stories and events happening in the world. We have the luxury of being able to focus as much time n energy as we have to spare on just the one story, which is why we have such a firm grasp on the facts, thus bolstering our belief.

Nope. I think the media will be the last to know. I think they will continue to buy MJ's version that he is selling, cramming it right down their own bloodthirsty gullets til they are full n bursting with their glutony, while the world's eyes are slowly opened to the truth being revealed behind their backs.

MJ's gonna make them all look like blithering fools.
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Nice post bec ^^^ - that really would be the icing on the (bam) cake!

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Well, we know who sets the trend hoax, is TMZ, and the rest just gets on the train

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Nope. I think the media will be the last to know. I think they will continue to buy MJ's version that he is selling, cramming it right down their own bloodthirsty gullets til they are full n bursting with their glutony, while the world's eyes are slowly opened to the truth being revealed behind their backs.


interesting thoughts bec.

funny that the truth being revealed behind their backs, yet the answers are right in front of them.

blithering fools indeed, regardless if they know or don't. the joke is still on them.

i personally think there is a blend of some who know but are too proud / politically correct to come out and others who are simply to ignorant too look at it properly and are among the statistics of the myriad of deaders.

could be wrong. probably. been known to be wrong many a time before. but, i do know that media are scum!  :icon_e_wink:
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Theory: Michael Jackson crossed the border into Mexico and a double with a terminal illness died in his place.
This one’s the closest, but the 'against' is wrong, because MJ could have gone to Mexico briefly only a day or two and then flew somewhere else just to lead people off the path.

Also if they are using the term ‘Conspiracy theories’, we know that the media definitely does not want the conspiracy theorists that say 911 was an inside job, to be revealing the truth. They push them being quacks consistently. So the media is caught in a trap, partly of their own making.

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yep! thats why the forum has been quoted in media several times.

ah! silly me. thats why they don't to investigate. everyone here is doing it for them!
   
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It's politically incorrect to believe MJ hoaxed his death, cultural pressure to believe the "authorities" overrules common sense fairly regularly….
If for no reason other then they have to spread their time n focus out over all the current stories and events happening in the world. We have the luxury of being able to focus as much time n energy as we have to spare on just the one story, which is why we have such a firm grasp on the facts, thus bolstering our belief.

Yep, MJ will soon be saying 'Checkmate'!
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Any1 read a novel called Cinnamon Twigs: The Life and Pseudocide of a Celebrity? Sounds a bit like an MJ faked death 2 me     .
Michael FAKED HIS OWN DEATH, just like this celeb:


http://www.scribd.com/doc/137321682/Cinnamon-Twigs-The-Life-and-Pseudocide-of-a-Celebrity