Michael said on tape that it was important to him to vanish from the public!!!

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbUDiWOGP80

Im not too sure if this has been mentioned before, but when I heard the taped interview in the last few minutes of this I was like  :icon_eek: ooooh

sorry if its old news but.... it just seemed to be a massive hint

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[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbUDiWOGP80[/youtube]

Charlottevet thanks for sharing, I've never watched this vid before and I find it extremely interesting, it's obvious that Michael always needed and wanted everybody's attention and lived for controversy and that he was planning to disappear one day from the public eye but however this vid have left me with a very bad feeling and it's when he is saying that Marilyn Monroe left being still young and pretty and nobody could see her grow old and that he somehow would like it too what leads me to think that he will make the world to learn he is alive but won't be visual anymore what would deeply sadden me.

ps: Please Michael we need you in the flesh again, you are timeless and the older you get the sexier you look
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You are very welcome - I thought it might be of interest  :)

Personally I think that's the whole point of his hoax (IF indeed he is still alive and not really dead). I don't ever expect him to return to the public eye if he i still out there somewhere.... I think he would have wanted to vanish forever - Michael Jackson would be dead and he would be free to live the life HE chose, as someone else - the latter part of his life would be his and his alone.

Why would he go to the trouble of hoaxing it all up only to undo it all and make his exposure greater? No, I Im fairly sure deep down that he never plans to return to the public eye, if he did I'm sure he would have gone about things differently. Though ofc this is jut my personal opinion- if this i really the case I say good for him :) We might have enjoyed his works when he was alive but it's time for us to step back and let him be; let him live out his life has he wants, let him have the chance to love and be loved for who he is as a person, not as a personality and celeb, see the world through another's eyes and really live his life to the full - shopping where he likes, taking walks, anything. I like to imagine him out there walking amongst us, happy that he was finally able to achieve that.

And if he is dead... which would be a terrible shame that the world could lose such a wonderful human being, Im sure wherever he is he has found peace - and now it is our turn to learn from what he did and carry on his efforts to make the world a better place; moreover, for the world to learn a valuble lesson, that people who are differennt as not the ones to beat down and ridicule, they are the ones brave enough to express themselves and stand up for what they believe- they are our future and the people blazing the trail for a better tomorrow. I should hope it will be a long time before the media dares insult another person who stands up for their opinions and does good for the wider world.


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Michael often said he did not like old age and be seen as old man...Rabbi Shmuley Boteach also reports the interview in which he says this  in his book....but I think that Michael was too stressed  by the media when he said this. Now is definitely  most serene and calm and no longer afraid of some ghosts....  :icon_razz:


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Thanks  charlottevet for the vid !!  :bearhug:

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For me at this moment it makes no sence if he would not show himself to the world again, because he was not in the public eye for a long time before he did the announcement , why make an annoucement for the TII again, and then suddenly dissapear if you want to live a quiet life, we havent seen anything from the media a that time(years) about MJ, to me it means that he could life in privat.

 
“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.”
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Perhaps he made the announcement for TII because he wanted to go out with a bang. Not just fade off and die when he'd not been in the public eye. He wanted everyone watching, and perhaps he wanted the biggest response he could possibly get to his death  - its no secret he craved attention and love, so to "die" when the whole world was watching and waiting expectantly for him; people who had previously put him out of their mind were back to adoring him again after being reminded of his existance, he created the biggest mourning and outpouring of love he possibly could (IF indeed he IS still alive).

And you are welcome blankie  :bearhug:

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so are you saying TII announcement meant, 'this is it - goodbye' not TII the start of a new era, takeover, hoax, vendetta, etc?
People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Perhaps :) of course I don't KNOW but that's always the feeling I have had.... that he wanted to bring our attention back to him for that short period; remind people of what they had in him, and produce the film to get out the "message" (4 years etc etc). I just get the feeling that he wanted that last big surge of love and adoration before he stepped back into the shadows to carry on with his life and work out of the public eye (again IF he hoaxed it and didn't really croak it). If thats really the case , good for him :) I hope he's happy!!

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there are too many clues that lead us to believe there is something much more than a goodbye. His words in the tape could even mean that he was just gonna disappear, not necessarily mean a goodbye....just like we know the lyric in the song, "in one blink i'll disappear and then i'll come back to haunt you" from threatened
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and just put his kids out there in his place ?   :WTF:
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Michael is not sitting pretty and his kids doing all the work...it's all behind the scenes. 
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MJ said in his slurred bedroom speech that Elvis and the Beatles hadn’t done it, but he would. Could that mean returning from a death hoax? Well Elvis may be alive, but I don’t think John L. is, although Paul McCartney was part of a fake hoax death stunt.

Since MJ must have known Schmuley wasn’t a true friend, he may have been adding hoax elements to those tapes, knowing Schmuley would use them for money and fame later.
 
I’m thinking it could go either way—staying a ‘ghost’ forever, or returning at some point to say TaDa!
And I totally agree with you SweetSunset, that MJ’s just as good-looking as he always was, and will never stop looking awesome, as in hard to take your eyes off of him!

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so are you saying TII announcement meant, 'this is it - goodbye' not TII the start of a new era, takeover, hoax, vendetta, etc?

I am pretty sure that TII announcement meant he will stop his entertainer under the spotlight life to change it into entertainment behind the scene such as the consequent hoax and film.... as he said to bring people to a higher level making them feel like being in a dream. And yes you are right when you say that "this will be my final curtain" might mean that a disreputable stage closes to make way for a new one with a good reputation = definitely takeover.

MJonmind...yes you are right because his beauty goes beyond his physical which is unbeatable, he has such a way to make women go crazy, one of a kind.
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I agree with you guys, MJ could not disappear just like that, He had to catch the attention of the world to his great adventure, is known to all.
Thanks Charlotte hear Michael is just wow! his voice in my ears, is a caress to my heart  :bearhug:

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Oh very important!! I forgot to add that this hoax was meant to clear his name, to expose the evil behaviours, etc.. but the most important thing is that with this hoax Michael has learnt that he's the most loved human being on earth I think he must be proud of it and this makes it easier for him to come back, once he has felt everybody love him and miss him he won't be able to reject the return to public eye, quite the contrary, I am pretty sure he is looking forward to be back and see his fans face to face again.
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Watch particularly at 10:27 for the crowds reaction, and imagine times 1000, world-wide.
I just love watching the crowds reaction and imagine myself there, tears streaming down my face with joy too!
So MJ, I do hope you show yourself again! Love you!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ldVefGCl3v4[/youtube]

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Watch particularly at 10:27 for the crowds reaction, and imagine times 1000, world-wide.
I just love watching the crowds reaction and imagine myself there, tears streaming down my face with joy too!
So MJ, I do hope you show yourself again! Love you!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ldVefGCl3v4[/youtube]

OMG! 'll be screaming wherever I find Michael is back! my heart will give thanks to God for this.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJPYlT2FLLc

this is very interesting - and very sad.....

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJPYlT2FLLc

this is very interesting - and very sad.....

Actually, I'm not buying it.  This plays into too much the Michael as victim, which I believe is a complete fiction.  We just simply can't have it both ways.  He can't be a master mind of the greatest hoax ever AND a hapless victim, though he could easily play the Fool.

And here's another odd thing.  In giving his thanks at the awards in the video, he thanks his children and his mother and then his father and mentions him by name.  Why would he do that?  We all know who his father is......or do we?  What really is the story behind the drama of Joe Jackson and we are at times lead to believe Joe had a particular dislike for Michael and his unbreakable spirit.  MJ as Dave Dave blames his father for the scars on his face. 

And/or is Michael talking about something much larger.  Again, I'm just speculating here, but is Michael suggesting that the patriarchal God of revenge has resulted in a scorched earth policy.  I was just rereading the lyrics to Earth Song and realized something has always troubled me about this song.  To whom is he addressing this song? 

The only conclusion I can come to is he is addressing the God of the old testament because he clearly says as follows:

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Where is the peace that you pledge your only Son

Who else can he be referring to?  If we have concluded that Michael controls everything that is picked up by the media, why is he providing such an awkward and embarassing glimpse into his family life?  Is it true, or just an act?  What kind of father would not know where his son is buried, or is Michael referring to another son. 

There are so many layers to this story and none necessarily negate the other and I don't mean to suggest Michael didn't have a painful childhood because frankly I have no way of knowing one way or another.  I am merely reflecting upon the story that we are being told and it's potential meaning beyond family gossip. 

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Watch particularly at 10:27 for the crowds reaction, and imagine times 1000, world-wide.
I just love watching the crowds reaction and imagine myself there, tears streaming down my face with joy too!
So MJ, I do hope you show yourself again! Love you!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ldVefGCl3v4[/youtube]


Here Mike is wonderful....Is really the best in the world...Thanks MJonmind  :bearhug:
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Watch particularly at 10:27 for the crowds reaction, and imagine times 1000, world-wide.
I just love watching the crowds reaction and imagine myself there, tears streaming down my face with joy too!
So MJ, I do hope you show yourself again! Love you!

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=ldVefGCl3v4[/youtube]


Here Mike is wonderful....Is really the best in the world...Thanks MJonmind  :bearhug:

Awesome vid, this was in 2006 and he was very thin too, somebody said that he was not Michael but Barry Shaw, he is Michael no doubt of it .
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I was just rereading the lyrics to Earth Song and realized something has always troubled me about this song.  To whom is he addressing this song? 

The only conclusion I can come to is he is addressing the God of the old testament because he clearly says as follows:

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Where is the peace that you pledge your only Son

Who else can he be referring to?  If we have concluded that Michael controls everything that is picked up by the media, why is he providing such an awkward and embarassing glimpse into his family life?  Is it true, or just an act?  What kind of father would not know where his son is buried, or is Michael referring to another son. 


JMO but he is referring to Christ, God's only begotten son. And the promise of new Kingdom and a rain of Peace through Jesus ransom sacrifice. Jesus is also referred to in the Bible as the "Prince of Peace" In the song MJ is asking God "How long? What about the Peace you promised through Jesus? When??"

Also the line "What about Abraham" God promised peace / restoration of righteousness to the world via Abrahamic seed (Jesus being descendant of Abraham), in which all earthlings would be blessed and have peace. Genesis 18:22 "By means of your seed, all nations of the earth will bless themselves" (or have Peace & New earth) It is as though MJ is pleading to God to make good on his promise by again pleading/asking "What about Abraham? How long?"

Yes, lots of Old testament references. And they tie in with the running theme in the Bible of God bringing about a new Heavens and a new earth. And the one sitting on the throne said, "Look, I am making everything new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true." Rev.21:5 and "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind." Isaiah 65:17

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People laugh when I explain. And though they may laugh, that doesn't change the fact that it's still the truth.


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Gwynned, Aussie and I discuss this part of Earth song starting here and to the bottom of the page  http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/forum/index.php/topic,23578.msg437161.html#msg437161

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Actually, I'm not buying it.  This plays into too much the Michael as victim, which I believe is a complete fiction.  We just simply can't have it both ways.  He can't be a master mind of the greatest hoax ever AND a hapless victim, though he could easily play the Fool.

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Michael may be made to look stupid, and sometimes he plays along or promotes that notion… but its all done with agenda. Spend some time with Michael, in a business environment, and soon you see that the man is cunning, and his persona is meant to decieve the people that he needs to take to the cleaners… Michael knows what he’s doing. He knows the game. He knows who he’s playing and how he must play. Sony may be taking his pawns, but in the end, the black King will reign, and checkmate will be called on the corporate powers that be.
http://truenewszone.wordpress.com/2012/08/22/sott-lttw-archive-2002/
Could MJ have been 'playing along and promoting the notion of not enjoying life to old age? Did MJ know the games Schmuley was playing? I'm sure of it.

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I have always sensed that Michael has enjoyed his life much more than we could perceive.
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JMO but he is referring to Christ, God's only begotten son. And the promise of new Kingdom and a rain of Peace through Jesus ransom sacrifice. Jesus is also referred to in the Bible as the "Prince of Peace" In the song MJ is asking God "How long? What about the Peace you promised through Jesus? When??"

Also the line "What about Abraham" God promised peace / restoration of righteousness to the world via Abrahamic seed (Jesus being descendant of Abraham), in which all earthlings would be blessed and have peace. Genesis 18:22 "By means of your seed, all nations of the earth will bless themselves" (or have Peace & New earth) It is as though MJ is pleading to God to make good on his promise by again pleading/asking "What about Abraham? How long?"

Yes, lots of Old testament references. And they tie in with the running theme in the Bible of God bringing about a new Heavens and a new earth. And the one sitting on the throne said, "Look, I am making everything new!" And then he said to me, "Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true." Rev.21:5 and "See, I will create new heavens and a new earth. The former things will not be remembered, nor will they come to mind." Isaiah 65:17

Jmo

But the tone of Earth Song is rather angry, frankly.  He's pleading, certainly, but there is an implied criticism that God has not kept his promises.  He's has sent messengers down who have suffered terribly on our behalf, and still God has not relented.  The suffering and scorched earth policy continue.  Why would God create a world and then allow it to destroy itself and allow so much suffering. 

Perhaps the answer lies in the last line of your post.  In order for something new to blossom, everything not in alignment with the new will need to be destroyed.  The dross needs to be burned away, all the negativity, victimhood, etc., needs to go away for the new human to emerge in the new world. 

A friend of mine recently had a very visionary experience and shared with me that he experienced a sense of this new world and said that even those who have suffered the most will wish they had suffered more when they experience the bliss of this new world.  Seems like an odd thing to say, but we all take more satisfaction in our successes when we have put forth great effort.