Michael Jackson had 'died twice before of drug overdoses'

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-jackson-died-twice-before-1857433

The King of Pop was discovered slumped with no signs of life after visits by his personal “medical staff” on two separate occasions in the 1990s, a maid claims.

Michael Jackson was twice found “dead” by frantic staff after popping dozens of pills given to him by dodgy doctors, his former maid claims today.

The King of Pop was discovered slumped with no signs of life after visits by his personal “medical staff” on two separate occasions in the 1990s.

The startling revelations come just a day before Jacko’s family are set to go head-to-head with concert promoters in a $40billion court case into his death.

Adrian McManus, the Billie Jean singer’s personal maid during the 1990s, said she and other staff members ­frequently stumbled across Jackson “dead” or passed out on a ­cocktail of prescription drugs. She said: “One day I knocked on his door, but got no answer so I went in to clean. He was lying on the bed, ­motionless, looking very pale.

“I called several times, but he didn’t answer. As I got closer his eyes were open and he appeared not to be breathing.

“My heart sank as I thought he was dead. I called his name for several ­minutes. I feared that he was gone for ever, but then he came to suddenly. He didn’t say a word, but burst into tears.”

Adrian said she thought about calling for help, but had been warned before by the singer to not involve “outsiders”.

She also reveals that another incident occurred just a few weeks later, in 1993, when Michael’s security guard found him lifeless at the edge of a swimming pool.

Adrian said: “The guard thought he was dead. He feared the worst, trying to wake him by shaking and ­shouting at him. He couldn’t find a pulse and he didn’t appear to be breathing.”

Terrified his boss was dead, the ­worker radioed another guard, who performed life-saving treatment. Adrian added: “Michael made his guards train in CPR so they knew what to do.”

Adrian also revealed the singer had dozens of bottles of drugs in his rooms in bags, wardrobes and among c­lothes. ­Unknown doctors and medical “professionals” would file into his ­Neverland ranch in California and lock themselves away with Jackson for hours at a time.

She added: “It is a shock that people didn’t realise he had such issues, as it was common knowledge in the 1990s. Michael was not a pop hero, but a messed- up, depraved junkie, who was manipulative, twisted and demonic. I still have nightmares thinking about Neverland.”

Jackson, 50, died in Los Angeles on June 25, 2009 from a lethal dose of the surgical anaesthetic Propofol that his doctor Conrad Murray administered for sleep problems. Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in 2011.

His mother Katherine, 82, is ­suing AEG Live — promoters of his ill-fated 2009 “This Is It” tour — in America for the wrongful death of her son, but news of Jackson’s drug taking could adversely affect the family’s claim that AEG Live was negligent in hiring Dr Murray to care Jackson as he rehearsed for the shows. AEG deny any negligence.
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Ikr. xd

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http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/michael-jackson-died-twice-before-1857433

The King of Pop was discovered slumped with no signs of life after visits by his personal “medical staff” on two separate occasions in the 1990s, a maid claims.

Michael Jackson was twice found “dead” by frantic staff after popping dozens of pills given to him by dodgy doctors, his former maid claims today.

The King of Pop was discovered slumped with no signs of life after visits by his personal “medical staff” on two separate occasions in the 1990s.

The startling revelations come just a day before Jacko’s family are set to go head-to-head with concert promoters in a $40billion court case into his death.

Adrian McManus, the Billie Jean singer’s personal maid during the 1990s, said she and other staff members ­frequently stumbled across Jackson “dead” or passed out on a ­cocktail of prescription drugs. She said: “One day I knocked on his door, but got no answer so I went in to clean. He was lying on the bed, ­motionless, looking very pale.

“I called several times, but he didn’t answer. As I got closer his eyes were open and he appeared not to be breathing.

“My heart sank as I thought he was dead. I called his name for several ­minutes. I feared that he was gone for ever, but then he came to suddenly. He didn’t say a word, but burst into tears.”

Adrian said she thought about calling for help, but had been warned before by the singer to not involve “outsiders”.

She also reveals that another incident occurred just a few weeks later, in 1993, when Michael’s security guard found him lifeless at the edge of a swimming pool.

Adrian said: “The guard thought he was dead. He feared the worst, trying to wake him by shaking and ­shouting at him. He couldn’t find a pulse and he didn’t appear to be breathing.”

Terrified his boss was dead, the ­worker radioed another guard, who performed life-saving treatment. Adrian added: “Michael made his guards train in CPR so they knew what to do.”

Adrian also revealed the singer had dozens of bottles of drugs in his rooms in bags, wardrobes and among c­lothes. ­Unknown doctors and medical “professionals” would file into his ­Neverland ranch in California and lock themselves away with Jackson for hours at a time.

She added: “It is a shock that people didn’t realise he had such issues, as it was common knowledge in the 1990s. Michael was not a pop hero, but a messed- up, depraved junkie, who was manipulative, twisted and demonic. I still have nightmares thinking about Neverland.”

Jackson, 50, died in Los Angeles on June 25, 2009 from a lethal dose of the surgical anaesthetic Propofol that his doctor Conrad Murray administered for sleep problems. Murray was found guilty of involuntary manslaughter in 2011.

His mother Katherine, 82, is ­suing AEG Live — promoters of his ill-fated 2009 “This Is It” tour — in America for the wrongful death of her son, but news of Jackson’s drug taking could adversely affect the family’s claim that AEG Live was negligent in hiring Dr Murray to care Jackson as he rehearsed for the shows. AEG deny any negligence.

there are a few things i could say here but i just want to point out this one.  so why is it murray could get no help with cpr ?
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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Would this be the same maid who sold her soul to make a quick buck by spreading those filthy lies about Michael back in the 90s?  Someone here is twisted and it ain't Michael.


From a different perspective, one of my first thoughts on reading this "no signs of life" story made me think of an out of body experience - travelling to the astral plane.

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my daughter had two grand mal seizures when she was young and she like didn't jerk or anything ,she just wasn't there and sort of gurgled. wonder if they can present like this person described ?
"I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be shrewd as serpents and as innocent as doves."  




Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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and that's all I have to say about that!!

LOVE you Family...don't be blinded by the BS!

Michael...stay strong Brother...We LOVE you!
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I found this quote from the dailymail.co.uk interesting:

"After a judge ruled that there was sufficient evidence to warrant a jury trial, the family’s lawyer Kevin Boyle said: ‘The truth about what happened to Michael, which AEG has tried to keep hidden from the public since the day Michael died, is finally emerging.
‘We look forward to the trial where the rest of the story will come to light.’"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316021/Michael-Jacksons-ex-maid-reveals-singer-dead-twice-1990s-calls-late-singer-messed-depraved-junkie.html#ixzz2RjqIUm38
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I don't believe anyone is perfect.... even MJ - he might ell have had a drug problem, heck Ive seen footage of him and wondered myself in the past. SHE might have thought of him as off his chuff and "demonic", but that is just one person's opinion and everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Some people judge others on their mistakes hence the particulalry harsh words, whee as some people look for the bigger picture and consider all the good that person has done, despite their downfalls....

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They're all coming out of the woodwork now.  I don't want to start a new thread for this but here's Matt Fiddes, another one with a 'bombshell'!  I think not!

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/311415/Michael-Jackson-s-British-bodyguard-*****-was-pushed-too-hard/

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Thank you curls....
Fiddes said: I`ll happily give evidence on behalf of the family if they want me to........

I think they don`t need you.....storyteller.....

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Quote from: charlottevet
I found this quote from the dailymail.co.uk interesting:

"After a judge ruled that there was sufficient evidence to warrant a jury trial, the family’s lawyer Kevin Boyle said: ‘The truth about what happened to Michael, which AEG has tried to keep hidden from the public since the day Michael died, is finally emerging.
‘We look forward to the trial where the rest of the story will come to light.’"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316021/Michael-Jacksons-ex-maid-reveals-singer-dead-twice-1990s-calls-late-singer-messed-depraved-junkie.html#ixzz2RjqIUm38
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Thank you so much for this quote Char, I had forgotten to post it here...saw it in the newspaper though.

My very first reaction..." If Michael had 'died' but not really dead two times before in the past, why not now?" [obvious reaction]
I don't think this is just tabloid...the purpose for this news might be to make people suspicious of Michael's death. Especially after that statement by Putnam.
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They're all coming out of the woodwork now.  I don't want to start a new thread for this but here's Matt Fiddes, another one with a 'bombshell'!  I think not!

http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/311415/Michael-Jackson-s-British-bodyguard-*****-was-pushed-too-hard/



“I believe Michael would still be alive today if he hadn’t got tied up with the concert deal.”
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I found this quote from the dailymail.co.uk interesting:

"After a judge ruled that there was sufficient evidence to warrant a jury trial, the family’s lawyer Kevin Boyle said: ‘The truth about what happened to Michael, which AEG has tried to keep hidden from the public since the day Michael died, is finally emerging.
‘We look forward to the trial where the rest of the story will come to light.’"


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2316021/Michael-Jacksons-ex-maid-reveals-singer-dead-twice-1990s-calls-late-singer-messed-depraved-junkie.html#ixzz2RjqIUm38
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Thank you so much for this quote Char, I had forgotten to post it here...saw it in the newspaper though.

My very first reaction..." If Michael had 'died' but not really dead two times before in the past, why not now?" [obvious reaction]
I don't think this is just tabloid...the purpose for this news might be to make people suspicious of Michael's death. Especially after that statement by Putnam.

you are very welcome :)

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Yes I am so happy too like you all that all evidences are gonna emerge throughout this trial but it annoys me big time that everybody is always highlighting Michael's drug addition when I am not sure if he is really a drug addict  :Pulling_hair:
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Quote:

My very first reaction..." If Michael had 'died' but not really dead two times before in the past, why not now?" [obvious reaction]
I don't think this is just tabloid...the purpose for this news might be to make people suspicious of Michael's death. Especially after that statement by Putnam.


 :smiley_abuv:  Michael was a perfectionist.  Practice makes perfect!!!

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Still I have nightmares thinking about Neverland. "That ungrateful! How much did they pay? I do not want to curse, but these statements beyond me.  :-X

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And who is Adrian McManus :icon_question:, why precisely now appears by talking this way

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Here is the Facebook page of Adrian McManus, a former employee of Neverland who was fired for theft (among other reasons), sold numerous lies about MJ molesting children to the tabloids, and had to file bankruptcy after losing a frivolous wrongful termination lawsuit against MJ! In fact, in addition to owing MJ $1.4 million dollars in legal fees, she also owes her sister-in-law $30,584.89 dollars for “willfully and maliciously defrauding” her sister-in-law’s children after her husband died! (We discussed her and her cohorts’ laughable testimony in this post.)
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Here is an excerpt from her testimony where she ADMITS TO LYING TO POLICE IN 1993!
Mesereau: “You’re saying you committed perjury in the Chandler deposition?”
McManus: “The whole time [I lied].”
Mesereau: “Knowing that it was a crime?”
McManus: “I didn’t think of it that way.”
http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/fact-checking-michael-jacksons-christian-faith-part-4-of-6-so-called-christians-who-have-lied-against-michael/

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I can see that she's normally someone whom we should not trust, based on the past...but the timing of that article is very interesting given that the trial starts today and everything Putnam said.
I don't know what to believe.
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I don`t know what to make of it. I wonder how a human can so lie without having a bad conscience, I know, greed for money. Money rules the world. And then the lie to admit
in court without shame to sink into the ground. No normal human can live with it. Or she has been manipulated by someone, like so many others before her....who was/is the
mastermind behind? I can´t believe this is grown on her own crap. Maybe this is repeated now with the AEG trial, maybe it is helping to clarify Michael Jackson`s name.
Remember what the lawyer said:
He says: The case isn`t about the money...
We`ve never asked for $40 billion
The jury is going to decide what the loss is
We`d like to get out all the evidence
It`s about getting the truth.....

and we begin in the year 2005.......

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Here is the Facebook page of Adrian McManus, a former employee of Neverland who was fired for theft (among other reasons), sold numerous lies about MJ molesting children to the tabloids, and had to file bankruptcy after losing a frivolous wrongful termination lawsuit against MJ! In fact, in addition to owing MJ $1.4 million dollars in legal fees, she also owes her sister-in-law $30,584.89 dollars for “willfully and maliciously defrauding” her sister-in-law’s children after her husband died! (We discussed her and her cohorts’ laughable testimony in this post.)
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Here is an excerpt from her testimony where she ADMITS TO LYING TO POLICE IN 1993!
Mesereau: “You’re saying you committed perjury in the Chandler deposition?”
McManus: “The whole time [I lied].”
Mesereau: “Knowing that it was a crime?”
McManus: “I didn’t think of it that way.”
http://vindicatemj.wordpress.com/2012/01/24/fact-checking-michael-jacksons-christian-faith-part-4-of-6-so-called-christians-who-have-lied-against-michael/
MJonmind thanks for the input, but I think that this type of publication, I mean Mirror, dirty even more the name of MJ, because neither journalists and even fewer people looking or corroborate the information.
damn money, this woman does not give up, despite his false statement. >:(

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so security was not aloud to be in the house at carolwood but was a different story at neverland ? and i would think that security should indeed know  cpr. just trying to sort likely truths out of the trash here.  have  to keep in mind that broken clock that is accurate twice a day you know.  :icon_lol:
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Why not just tell people I'm an alien from Mars? Tell them I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight. They'll believe anything you say, because you're a reporter. But if I, Michael Jackson, were to say, "I'm an alien from Mars and I eat live chickens and do a voodoo dance at midnight," people would say, "Oh, man, that Michael Jackson is nuts. He's cracked up. You can't believe a single word that comes out of his mouth."

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@suspicious mind  smart thinking!

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If Michael had problems then and only then with painkiller addiction, which with the great help of his best friend Elizabeth Taylor which find and Rehab Clinic in Europe, where he finally defeats his addiction and then never have to deal with that problem ever.

So after his 2nd and 3rd degrees burnings he needed them but after the rehab i never believed he had to fall back again even needed more harder things like the printed accusing him of needing. Did anyone really believe he couldn´t sleep after rehearsals or concerts etc. BS MEDIA STINKS TO OFTEN. :Pulling_hair: and some humans needs money obvious so bad.... :icon_pale: :icon_eek: :confused: don´t believe like we learn here so often read between the lines.
KEEP THE FAITH IT IS ALL WITH L.O.V.E. HEAL THE WORLD MJ ALIVE AND WELL IN OUR HEARTS SOULS MINDS AND PHYSICALLY WE WILL SEE BELIEVE HOPE DIES AT LAST LOVE AND HOPE ARE VERY STRONG FORCES PEACE LOVE TO ALL