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for the sake of conversation , if it isn't about money ( isn't it interesting that with the whole jackson aeg thing it is said it is not about the money ) and wade is lying right now for a purpose. if there is no monetary gain how does his filing effect the estate? obviously we are not experts here and i assume none of us know wade but does he give off the air of ummm it causing him discomfort to say these things?
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Loginfor the sake of conversation , if it isn't about money ( isn't it interesting that with the whole jackson aeg thing it is said it is not about the money ) and wade is lying right now for a purpose. if there is no monetary gain how does his filing effect the estate? obviously we are not experts here and i assume none of us know wade but does he give off the air of ummm it causing him discomfort to say these things?What's also really interesting is how Taj factors in the mix. His confession really makes you pause and consider Wade's motivation.Here you have two young men who were BOTH very close to MJ, yet have two completely different experiences regarding "molestation". The two accounts are like night & day. One of loving support and compassion and the other as a predator and monster.It is almost like they are talking about two different Michael's entirely! ...so who seems more credible?
:suspect: :affraid: remember the ed bradley thing. he says something about he would never do anything sexual with a child , that was not where his heart is. that's not michael jackson , that's someone else. now scary part the manifesto shows up.
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThese are some pretty big allegations being leveled at Wade and AEG with no evidence to back them up. Does no one see the irony?Can you please clarify? :icon_e_confused:
These are some pretty big allegations being leveled at Wade and AEG with no evidence to back them up. Does no one see the irony?
What's also really interesting is how Taj factors in the mix. His confession really makes you pause and consider Wade's motivation.Here you have two young men who were BOTH very close to MJ, yet have two completely different experiences regarding "molestation". The two accounts are like night & day. One of loving support and compassion and the other as a predator and monster.It is almost like they are talking about two different Michael's entirely!
You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginYou are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginThese are some pretty big allegations being leveled at Wade and AEG with no evidence to back them up. Does no one see the irony?Can you please clarify? :icon_e_confused:There's no evidence that Wade or AEG is out to destroy MJ's name or take his money. That's pure speculation. All we know is Wade is lying. His motivation for doing so is unknown at this time.Flashback: MJ is accused of child molestation. With no evidence, the entire world (seemingly) turns their back upon him and presumes him guilty.So why are we condemning Wade and AEG in lieu of evidence? Same was done to MJ and all the fans n the hoaxers feel he got such a raw deal (and he did). So why are we turning around and leveling the same sort of condemnation against these entities? Nothing's been proven, there is no evidence of what is driving this turn of events. We should withhold judgement until the facts are in.Wade is lying, yes. But is he lying because he's acting? Perhaps. Where'd those numbers come from? for 7 years from ages 7 to 14? Come on. That's an astounding coincidence if it is one. And maybe it is. I don't know.MJ leaves a track record behind. I'd be very wary of failing to heed the lessons he is teaching. Just saying. Maybe I'm wrong. I'll just keep watchin.
Snoopy71QuoteWhat's also really interesting is how Taj factors in the mix. His confession really makes you pause and consider Wade's motivation.Here you have two young men who were BOTH very close to MJ, yet have two completely different experiences regarding "molestation". The two accounts are like night & day. One of loving support and compassion and the other as a predator and monster.It is almost like they are talking about two different Michael's entirely! Interesting way to put it. We know MJ lives for controversy, and I know this is a very ugly type, but in a way this really gets people going on all the different sides--the supporters and haters. Somehow I don't think this will go to trial, since it would only be a repeat of 2005. We have had a manslaughter trial and now a wrongful death trial against a large corporation, and I think anything after that would be of a completely different nature, that we can't now predict. And so we stay glued to our chairs.
Michael Jackson’s Dad Says Wade Robson is Getting Paid to LieBy Craig Rosen | Stop The Presses! – 9 hours agoLet the conspiracy theories begin. Joe Jackson — not the '80s new wave star, but Michael Jackson's father — says that Wade Robson is getting paid to say Michael molested him, and that's why he's suing Jackson's estate.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login caught up with the elder Jackson Wednesday at the airport and asked Joe about Robson. "Wade is lying because they're paying him to lie," Joe said.Jackson, however, never makes it clear who is paying Robson to lie. At one point, TMZ's man on the street asks Joe if it's AEG Live!, the concert promoter that's being sued by the Jackson family for Micheal's wrongful death, but Joe never addresses that directly.We're no legal experts, but we're hard pressed to understand how Robson's claim of molestation would help AEG fend off the Jacksons' wrongful death suit.The dancer/choreographer filed suit against the Michael Jackson estate a You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, alleging that Jackson sexually abused him from the ages seven through 14.In a interview on the "Today" show You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login, Robson explained why he testified in Jackson's 2005 child molestation trial that Michael did not abuse him. Robson said, "I never forgot for one moment of what Michael did to me, but I was psychologically and emotionally completely unable and unwilling to understand that it was sexual abuse."He also claimed he didn't file the lawsuit for money. "I've lived in silence and denial for 22 years and I can't spend another moment in that. In order to truly heal, I have to speak my truth and have to speak the whole truth…I'm never going to go away for money," he said.You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login :suspect: :affraid: remember the ed bradley thing. he says something about he would never do anything sexual with a child , that was not where his heart is. that's not michael jackson , that's someone else. now scary part the manifesto shows up. I remember reading years ago that when Michael came back from New York after taping "The Wiz" people said he was different/changed....and like you said, now this "manifesto" appears after so many years."MJ will be my new name," he wrote. "No more Michael Jackson. I want a whole new character, a whole new look. I should be a tottally [sic]different person. People should never think of me as the kid who sang "ABC," [or]"I Want You Back." "I should be a new, incredible actor/singer/dancer that will shock the world," he wrote. "I will do no interviews. I will be magic. I will be a perfectionist, a researcher, a trainer, a masterer [sic]. I will be better than every great actor roped into one."I know a lot of celebrities speak of having a "duality" or an alter persona. But for MJ to be both these people Taj and Wade describe seems extreme...like a Jekyll Mr. Hyde!In Wade's own words he said...His music, his movement, his personal words of inspiration and encouragement and his unconditional love will live inside of me forever. Robson, June 2009Which tend to mirror what Taj said. So how do you go from this statement to an allegation/claim?Let's just say for the sake of argument Wade isn't being paid....why now? why tell it now? What is there to gain going public?If anyone can answer that...then I could put this to bed and not think about it...cause right now it's making no sense to me except to be about money! :icon_e_confused:
@ Snoopy71 I think AEG is behind this 1000% Me too think the same....AEG hoped in large receipts with This is it tour, exploiting Mike and he with June 25 did not allow this...and they understood all..... :moonwalk_:
We should remember a) Michaels' rant about Sony, his song BAD he sang (you're throwing stones to hide your hands) and that one goes far back BEFORE any alligationsb) La Toya remindung us to look at the left hand instead of at the right hand (the trial) that is right in front of us (something like that). By looking at this whole fiasco I have strong doubts AEG is the bad guy. They (AEG and Lady Katherine & Kids) are used. By Sony. Through the lawsuit filed by Sony affiliated lawyers by using Lady Katherine & MJ3 as the plaintiffs AGAINST AEG they try to sabotage AEG and therefore try to hide their hands. That way Sony stays in the background and let the public shred AEG apart when it's Sony that should be shredded. It's the same pattern they already used on Michael, is it not? Set someone/a company/anyone/anything up and have 'em publicly scrutinized. And here some of you are following Sony's script. Michael knew what he wrote and sang about. Why else did Michael openly 'complain' about Sony? He knew all along that Sony used him forever and a day. (only about Mr. Branca:Michael knew Mr. Branca was Sony affiliated - amongst others. JB negotiated the deal for SONY to buy the footage from AEG and produce TII (big bucks). He was not trusted by Michael any longer. He was never re-hired. He produced a phoney will, never produced a valid contract that stated he was rehired). All for Sony. This suit is about money and was filed through lawyers which I am certain they are Sony payed. I think we can be save by saying, Lady Katherine would never file such a lawsuit about money as in her eyes it's not about money but about her son. So, my conclusion is that Lady Katherine knows too much and is threatened by Sony thus pushed into publically go against AEG, who itself also is just the fall guy like Murray. And Wade? I bet he's Sony payed ... Joe is completely correct in assuming that there IS a big fat wallet financing Wade. And Sonys' wallet is definitely much bigger than AEGs.