Jumping out of the coroner van

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Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 03:41:07 PM
Here's the 'original' video:

[youtube:30dm6mcw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkaIWnZB9cc[/youtube:30dm6mcw]

And this is the one were the german RTL claimes that they made the video:

[youtube:30dm6mcw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k[/youtube:30dm6mcw]



There's something strange in the original video, I think RTL didn't notice that.
You can hear a siren, and it's definatly not a German one...
Can someone explain this to me?

However I'm not sure if it was really Michael jumping out of that van, I think the original video is real, and after it was placed on the internet they started to panic. And they made RTL claim that they faked this whole thing.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 03:45:24 PM
Hello
I think this is of all Fake and it this is to be done Very cruelly by RTL.
To play with people so to handle with the feelings of people so is cruel.
I find such people thus ............ :evil:
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 03:49:43 PM
Quote from: "angelshadow"
Hello
I think this is of all Fake and it this is to be done Very cruelly by RTL.
To play with people so to handle with the feelings of people so is cruel.
I find such people thus ............ :evil:

RTL makes you BELIEVE that they created it, but the siren is not a German one, that's for sure!
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 03:52:34 PM
[quote = "MJJ1982"] [quote = "angelshadow"] Hallo
Ich denke, das gilt für alle Fake und es ist zu tun, sehr grausam von RTL.
So spielen Sie mit den Menschen so mit den Gefühlen der Menschen behandeln, so ist grausam.
Ich finde diese Leute so ............ : evil: [/ quote]

RTL macht Sie glauben, dass sie es geschaffen, aber die Sirene ist nicht eine deutsche, das ist sicher! [/ Quote]


However, Yes this no German siren is white I this will have also roofed with RTL, would be embarrassing if you for us the video with German siren presented would have or?
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 04:19:39 PM
If it were real, why wouldn't the person who took the footage come forward though?
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 05:37:41 PM
I watched the original video again and YES! I noticed the sirens!!  But they sound to me like they were put into that video to make it sound like this video was really shot in America...Otherwise...the car sign...hm. IDK  :?
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 05:46:33 PM
Was the video shot in Germany? I mean the 2nd video.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 25, 2009, 06:12:31 PM
Quote from: "ILuvUMoreMJ"
If it were real, why wouldn't the person who took the footage come forward though?

I have no idea... Or maybe they traced him/her?

In the original you can't see that guy standing there, who according to RTL filmed this whole thing.
And about the sirens, if you listen carefully during the original, it sounds like a real background sound to me. And why didn't RTL mentioned the sirens, that they used it to make it look real?

And yes, RTL filmed the second video in a, was it a parking garage? in Germany.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 26, 2009, 11:44:35 AM
But I don't understand why Michael would be in there. Why would he be there? I would think he is on a safe place with protection and stuff  :roll:
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 26, 2009, 12:08:01 PM
i believe the original video is fake from the 1st time i watch it ..
just try to noticed the "coroner" words position and the "Ford" logo ...
but .. idk ..
just my opinion
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 01:55:04 PM
Hi! I think is michael with murray the time that murray "dissapear"  :roll:
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 02:00:52 PM
This has to be a fake, I never beleived it before it was revealed fake but many are saying is not a fake but they are having to state it was. It is extremely unlikely that Michael is going to reveal himself like this after going to all the trouble of the hoax, there are many ways to hide or disguise and he would not have risked this. I think we can safely dismiss this.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 02:04:27 PM
The vid was discredited too swiftly for my taste.  Like, geez do some damage control, quick before the people find out he's not dead.  That will blow Michael's cover.  :shock:   Plus, it looked real to me.  Of course it doesn't hurt matters that I WANT it to be real, lol.  Have we even heard from this so called movie maker since then?
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 02:10:56 PM
Off subject, lol.  I am watching Michael's History Tour in New Zealand.  It appears that the show was slightly different in all countries, the song list.  But bay-beeeee, these gold pants and these thigh high buckled down the sides boots are talking to me :lol: .  Damn!  Sorry.  What a totally foine man.  Oh my God!  Wanna be startin sumthin - get the hell out :lol: Whew!

When I die and am reincarnated, I really do want to be Michael's right hand.  The left one ain't too bad, though, lol.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 02:34:44 PM
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The vid was discredited too swiftly for my taste.  Like, geez do some damage control, quick before the people find out he's not dead.  That will blow Michael's cover.  :shock:   Plus, it looked real to me.  Of course it doesn't hurt matters that I WANT it to be real, lol.  Have we even heard from this so called movie maker since then?




i think it was put out on purpose so that this whole hoax theory could start rolling,have you noticed that we keep on getting tit bits hinting at a hoax,when things get quite bam another leak occurs to keep the ball rolling no what i mean ;)
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 02:44:31 PM
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The vid was discredited too swiftly for my taste.  Like, geez do some damage control, quick before the people find out he's not dead.  That will blow Michael's cover.  :shock:   Plus, it looked real to me.  Of course it doesn't hurt matters that I WANT it to be real, lol.  Have we even heard from this so called movie maker since then?




i think it was put out on purpose so that this whole hoax theory could start rolling,have you noticed that we keep on getting tit bits hinting at a hoax,when things get quite bam another leak occurs to keep the ball rolling no what i mean ;)

i think that too, why the guy ho took the first video, the "real", wait all that time to upload? :roll:
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 02:47:36 PM
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The vid was discredited too swiftly for my taste.  Like, geez do some damage control, quick before the people find out he's not dead.  That will blow Michael's cover.  :shock:   Plus, it looked real to me.  Of course it doesn't hurt matters that I WANT it to be real, lol.  Have we even heard from this so called movie maker since then?




i think it was put out on purpose so that this whole hoax theory could start rolling,have you noticed that we keep on getting tit bits hinting at a hoax,when things get quite bam another leak occurs to keep the ball rolling no what i mean ;)


That's very true, I agree 100%
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 04:50:55 PM
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The vid was discredited too swiftly for my taste.  Like, geez do some damage control, quick before the people find out he's not dead.  That will blow Michael's cover.  :shock:   Plus, it looked real to me.  Of course it doesn't hurt matters that I WANT it to be real, lol.  Have we even heard from this so called movie maker since then?




i think it was put out on purpose so that this whole hoax theory could start rolling,have you noticed that we keep on getting tit bits hinting at a hoax,when things get quite bam another leak occurs to keep the ball rolling no what i mean ;)


That's very true, I agree 100%


I hate to disagree with you, but the hoax theory was rolling long before that video came out.  If it's real or not I don't know, but the first and second video have so many differences, that RTL can never make me believe that they shot the first one.  And there was somebody who went into the coroner's garage after the van,  That could be seen on the footage that followed the van to the garage.  Can't tell if it was an "official person" or not.  And just a thought:  Maybe whoever filmed the first vid, got payed off and had to sign a confidentialty agreement.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 05:20:04 PM
what im saying is that when things seem to go quite out of nowhere something is leaked to get everyone talking again, to keep the interest on the hoax.its been a long time since june and some people are getting fed up,so hey why not leak something to perk everyone up get them talking once again,as you no it spreads like wild fire on the net cos face it none of this hoax stuff really reaches main stream media ;)
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 27, 2009, 05:32:32 PM
I just think that if it was real they would have looked around al ot more before they let Michael out  it would have been to dangerous to just let him jump out like that .
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 28, 2009, 08:37:20 AM
Hi everybody!

This is the first time that i wrote something in this forum but i was reading it for a long time ago.
Sorry for my English but I'm from Spain.

I don´t know if the guy that jumping out of the coroner van is MJ really, but i think this video is so weird.

I have seen these videos (coroner´s van on the garage and the RFL´s video)again and again, and ihave found more differences.
First, in the original video van stops ahead the green door than the RFL´s video ("Making of").

Second, there is what appears to be a switch or a bell close near the green door, you can see this switch in the original video because the van stops ahead the door, but in the fake video the bodyguard covers it.

Thrid, the backlight of the van reflected on the green door at the RTL´s video (because the van was stopped at that point), but in the original video this reflex is seen in the wall.

Another thing, the original video is recorded by day with the sunlight that may be reflected in the van while in the fake video artificial light is.

Moreover, in the RL´s video you can see the rest of the parking which you can not see in the original video because a wall of concrete cover it.

Finally, the shadows that the van has on the wall does not seem.
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: November 28, 2009, 08:06:45 PM
I do not believe the RTL video is real.
These mad people have played only graussam with feelings. :x
I believe it is simply garbage ......
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: January 21, 2010, 12:13:52 AM
I don't know if the "real" vid is actually Mike, but RTL is definitely not responsible for it. There are too many differences, for instance the door color (shade), the height of the van, the height of "George" relative to the van, there's one shot where the wall on the right side of the van is actually missing and it is not the same license plate...there are just too many differences between the two.

The license plate from the "real" vid doesn't match the one from the van that took "Michael" from the helicopter either so...idk about who could be responsible for the "real" vid for that matter  :(  :(  :(
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Re: Jumping out of the coroner van

  • on: February 08, 2010, 12:54:05 AM
Quote from: "MJJ1982"
Here's the 'original' video:

[youtube:3c3fykpg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkaIWnZB9cc[/youtube:3c3fykpg]

And this is the one were the german RTL claimes that they made the video:

[youtube:3c3fykpg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fwkGPOGy1k[/youtube:3c3fykpg]



There's something strange in the original video, I think RTL didn't notice that.
You can hear a siren, and it's definatly not a German one...
Can someone explain this to me?

However I'm not sure if it was really Michael jumping out of that van, I think the original video is real, and after it was placed on the internet they started to panic. And they made RTL claim that they faked this whole thing.
i also think it's real. RTL did DAMAGE CONTROL!!!! and you know MJ loved to start somethin'!
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