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More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 05:43:10 PM
More V for Vendetta


We all know  the video that MJalive999 created on youtube about the connections between this movie and MJ's Hoax. And TIAI did redirected us as well to this movie. And I'm sure many of u already discussed about this on this forum. Sorry for re-opening this topic again.

 ok... Why this movie???
Mjalive999 showed us the most important "coincidences" with the hoax,  wich are :
1. The fight for the TRUTH and FREEDOM.
2. The Big Announcement ( with that red curtain signature)
3. The statue of children holding hands in a circle ( very similar with the one in Neverland). Except the statue in V movie is formed by 5 children, while Mj's has 7  - both  of them have a  thing with the numbers here ;)
4. The Fedora man  -  V is in  disguise - and he is  recording (with a camera)  the meeting with the detective ;)  looks a lot like the Hat man at the Memorial.
5. The backround imagine ( with the Army of Hope for V and The Army of LOVE for MJ?)
Mjalive999 did an amazing job conecting this movie (V for Vendetta) and the hoax together! bravo. ;)

But I see more  "coincidences" ! And that's why I've decided to open a new  thread about this very special movie!
My question is...Was this movie the main source of inspiration for MJ's Hoax??
Let's go back to the story line and see more then we've already seen!

The Release of the movie was in March 2006  ;)

The Action starts in London.( how familiar )..;)
- A shadowy, mysterious freedom fighter; with an ideea that changed the world - V .
- A man in a mask who says about himself : " I'm a musician of sorts, and on my way to give a very special performance. I promise it will be like nothing you've ever seen! "

1. As the story beggins, we hear these lines : "This is a Test..... England Prevails"
2. BTN (British Television Network) - reports a fabricated news about a death! ( " you think ppl will buy this??? Why not?? this is BTN - our job is to report the news, not fabricate it! that's government's job").
3. The Big Announcement made by V!
    He mentions the words :  truth, cruelty, injustice, intolerance and "Truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into  a mirror.(...) But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me ONE year from tonight,  and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
4. The BTN news reports : The masked man was shot and killed .dead - ( Lies)
5. V's home - the Shadow Gallery - underground, looks like a museum - Art items, books, music..
    The song "Cry me a River " plays on the jukebox, performed by Julie London
~"Now you say you're sorry
For bein' so untrue
Well, you can cry me a river, cry me a river
I cried a river over you"~
6. The Voice of  London ( Prothero) - was killed  (by V) with an overdose of legal drugs!
   On the news they reported the cause of death - Heart Failure ( more Lies).
7. Evey Hammond - captured and tortured by V, reads this message "What I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that, even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
    Why all this ?
   Evey - "That wasn't real"
    V -  " you wanted to live without fear. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't. I know you may never forgive me... but nor   will you understand how hard it was for me to do what I did".
".........artists use lies to tell the truth. Yes, I created a lie. But because you believed it, you found something true about yourself. "
8. 4th of November - the Eve of the  Revolution: ( after 347 days from the Announcement?? anyway...very interesting choice of numbers..do we have a 77 or wht?? ;)
The policeman Finch - " Tonight's your big night. Are you ready for it?... Are we ready for it?
The problem is, he knows us better than we know ourselves. I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected.
I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it. "

In the movie we have important figures of the society - the media, the police, the doctors, the church ( the bishop) and a character - called Spider ( death ) -  all involved, connected  and part of the Vendetta! They all went down like pieces in a Domino! Only One piece didn't fall ...and that was LOVE ( or Hope?)........

V - " What us done to me, created me! "

In  the end, V  succeded - with the price of his death - and the help of  Evey, Finch and his Army - to change the world and make a day to remember!;)
"Remember, remember the fifth of November!"

My last question is .....could this line be real ?? " There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence! " Could most of our answers be in this movie ?

Now ...You be the judge of all this...!  ;)
Bcz maybe I'm going crazy and I see more then it is...in everything and everywhere!! :mrgreen:  But I saw this movie on tv, on Saturday and couldn't help not noticing how many things in common V and MJ have ;) ;)
Who knows ? maybe some of u  here will enjoy this thread, and if u don't .. u have my apologies for borring u with my crazy thoughts and scenarios!  :roll:
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 05:51:15 PM
You make very good points there, I have to admit.
I was supposed to watch the movie myself, but have been too busy. I bought it years ago and watched it then, but can't remember a thing about it. Hmmh. Maybe I'll watch it tomorrow and be wiser !

I think V and MJ really have many thing in common, and the statue-thing is very suspicious... And all the sevens.
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 06:06:23 PM
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More V for Vendetta


We all know  the video that MJalive999 created on youtube about the connections between this movie and MJ's Hoax. And TIAI did redirected us as well to this movie. And I'm sure many of u already discussed about this on this forum. Sorry for re-opening this topic again.

 ok... Why this movie???
Mjalive999 showed us the most important "coincidences" with the hoax,  wich are :
1. The fight for the TRUTH and FREEDOM.
2. The Big Announcement ( with that red curtain signature)
3. The statue of children holding hands in a circle ( very similar with the one in Neverland). Except the statue in V movie is formed by 5 children, while Mj's has 7  - both  of them have a  thing with the numbers here ;)
4. The Fedora man  -  V is in  disguise - and he is  recording (with a camera)  the meeting with the detective ;)  looks a lot like the Hat man at the Memorial.
5. The backround imagine ( with the Army of Hope for V and The Army of LOVE for MJ?)
Mjalive999 did an amazing job conecting this movie (V for Vendetta) and the hoax together! bravo. ;)

But I see more  "coincidences" ! And that's why I've decided to open a new  thread about this very special movie!
My question is...Was this movie the main source of inspiration for MJ's Hoax??
Let's go back to the story line and see more then we've already seen!

The Release of the movie was in March 2006  ;)

The Action starts in London.( how familiar )..;)
- A shadowy, mysterious freedom fighter; with an ideea that changed the world - V .
- A man in a mask who says about himself : " I'm a musician of sorts, and on my way to give a very special performance. I promise it will be like nothing you've ever seen! "

1. As the story beggins, we hear these lines : "This is a Test..... England Prevails"
2. BTN (British Television Network) - reports a fabricated news about a death! ( " you think ppl will buy this??? Why not?? this is BTN - our job is to report the news, not fabricate it! that's government's job").
3. The Big Announcement made by V!
    He mentions the words :  truth, cruelty, injustice, intolerance and "Truth be told, if you're looking for the guilty, you need only look into  a mirror.(...) But if you see what I see, if you feel as I feel, and if you would seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me ONE year from tonight,  and together we shall give them a fifth of November that shall never, ever be forgot."
4. The BTN news reports : The masked man was shot and killed .dead - ( Lies)
5. V's home - the Shadow Gallery - underground, looks like a museum - Art items, books, music..
    The song "Cry me a River " plays on the jukebox, performed by Julie London
~"Now you say you're sorry
For bein' so untrue
Well, you can cry me a river, cry me a river
I cried a river over you"~
6. The Voice of  London ( Prothero) - was killed  (by V) with an overdose of legal drugs!
   On the news they reported the cause of death - Heart Failure ( more Lies).
7. Evey Hammond - captured and tortured by V, reads this message "What I hope most of all is that you understand what I mean when I tell you that, even though I do not know you, and even though I may never meet you, laugh with you, cry with you, or kiss you, I love you. With all my heart, I love you."
    Why all this ?
   Evey - "That wasn't real"
    V -  " you wanted to live without fear. I wish there'd been an easier way, but there wasn't. I know you may never forgive me... but nor   will you understand how hard it was for me to do what I did".
".........artists use lies to tell the truth. Yes, I created a lie. But because you believed it, you found something true about yourself. "
8. 4th of November - the Eve of the  Revolution: ( after 347 days from the Announcement?? anyway...very interesting choice of numbers..do we have a 77 or wht?? ;)
The policeman Finch - " Tonight's your big night. Are you ready for it?... Are we ready for it?
The problem is, he knows us better than we know ourselves. I suddenly had this feeling that everything was connected.
I felt like I could see everything that happened, and everything that is going to happen. It was like a perfect pattern, laid out in front of me. And I realised we're all part of it, and all trapped by it. "

In the movie we have important figures of the society - the media, the police, the doctors, the church ( the bishop) and a character - called Spider ( death ) -  all involved, connected  and part of the Vendetta! They all went down like pieces in a Domino! Only One piece didn't fall ...and that was LOVE ( or Hope?)........

V - " What us done to me, created me! "

In  the end, V  succeded - with the price of his death - and the help of  Evey, Finch and his Army - to change the world and make a day to remember!;)
"Remember, remember the fifth of November!"

My last question is .....could this line be real ?? " There are no coincidences, only the illusion of coincidence! " Could most of our answers be in this movie ?

Now ...You be the judge of all this...!  ;)
Bcz maybe I'm going crazy and I see more then it is...in everything and everywhere!! :mrgreen:  But I saw this movie on tv, on Saturday and couldn't help not noticing how many things in common V and MJ have ;) ;)
Who knows ? maybe some of u  here will enjoy this thread, and if u don't .. u have my apologies for borring u with my crazy thoughts and scenarios!  :roll:

i am really impressed by your post :!:  :!:

on the 25th  i watched that film and i really had the same thoiughts- even my non-eliever husband could not deny simlarities and he does not know why i forced him to watch this film

i can really see so many coincidences that i might believe that mj had wrote the story
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 07:14:15 PM
you're not going crazy whateverhappens! I also saw the similarities you saw. there are just too many "coincidences," for the movie not to mean anything...time for more in depth investigating. :D
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 07:18:44 PM
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you're not going crazy whateverhappens! I also saw the similarities you saw. there are just too many "coincidences," for the movie not to mean anything...time for more in depth investigating. :D

THANK YOU SO MUCH :!:

BY SAYING THIS YOU REALLY MADE MY DAY :lol:  :lol:

SOMETIMES I ALSO HAVE THE FEELING THAT A PADDED CELL WHAT BE THE BEST FOR ME :lol:  :lol:
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 08:20:43 PM
This video about the connections is great!

[youtube:3mz3h6pn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CmqdwVDxcI[/youtube:3mz3h6pn]
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 08:26:41 PM
THANKS FOR POSTING THIS
I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE; BUT COULD YOU POSSIBLY REPLY THE URL?
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 08:56:35 PM
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THANKS FOR POSTING THIS
I HAVE SEEN THIS BEFORE; BUT COULD YOU POSSIBLY REPLY THE URL?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1CmqdwVD ... r_embedded
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 28, 2009, 10:46:28 PM
Michael said he took the ideas from the best and went one better doing things in his own way....!
We are all connected and NOTHING is a coincidence - Michael said :
   "YOU WILL SEE EVERYTHING I WANT YOU TO SEE AND NOTHING I DON'T WANT YOU TO SEE"
      Nothing is coincidence!
       Every single thing is connected
         Love x
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:02:14 AM
Hi everybody..and thank u for reading my thread!
So...now I do know that I'm not the only one here to see the connections and similarities between V and MJ!  ;) In fact, my sister said..hey! wht if MJ wrote the story ??? :)  that's how far this movie has taken us! lol
Ok...so I guess i'm not that crazy either ...;)..(not yet anyway ..lol).

And u are right whateverhappens ;) ...it's "time for more in depth investigating"
And as soon as I have new infos, I'll share it with you :)
TO BE CONTINUUED....

L.O.V.E.
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:19:42 PM
This is also a good summary:

[youtube:291kfoo4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs[/youtube:291kfoo4]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=thChiBDudSs
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:22:19 PM
Oh, and that wonderful quote:

"A revolution without dancing is a revolution not worth having"  

Isn't Michael one of the greatest dancers of all time? ;-)
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: December 30, 2009, 03:51:16 AM
Hi and Thank u Ninanina :)  for posting the videos!
I never did saw these videos before!they are ..wooow....amazing! LOVE them! :)
And it will be great if u keep posting videos u find important and relevant for us, they don't have to be necessarily related to this specific thread .

L.O.V.E. ;)
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 01, 2010, 06:04:36 PM
Quote from: "Arianna_07"
Hi everybody..and thank u for reading my thread!
So...now I do know that I'm not the only one here to see the connections and similarities between V and MJ!  ;) In fact, my sister said..hey! wht if MJ wrote the story ??? :)  that's how far this movie has taken us! lol
Ok...so I guess i'm not that crazy either ...;)..(not yet anyway ..lol).

And u are right whateverhappens ;) ...it's "time for more in depth investigating"
And as soon as I have new infos, I'll share it with you :)
TO BE CONTINUUED....

L.O.V.E.
toda yi saw the film
BATMAN_ THE BEGINNING
and i was really rocked because also here one can find so many of the things we discussed for vendetta

e.g. the evil plans of the people in power- using torture and poison to bring people down who stand for the good or should be manipulated to serve their aims,
also the plan to kill normal people using poisened drinking water

goes with THE ILLUMINATI - Plans - there are some threads dealing with that. PLEASE READ

e.g. there was mentioned a "mental hospital" called ARKHAM vs LARKHAM in vendetta where they do some evil experiments
the main character had to make a choice where to stand - good or evil- said -inbetween
and at the end there was shown the card -JOKER -looked like in mj ghost video) standing for a person who is also ready to help saving GOTHAM = THE WORLD

and they mentioned the death of a loved person to make it possible that
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:55:21 PM
:mrgreen:   Coincidence?, Matches Until when?, I definitely do not believe in coincidences for me everything is becoming clearer

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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 01, 2010, 08:45:11 PM
Now.. why would Michael put Prince in a Vendetta mask??

Hmm.. this is actually one of the more convincing hoax arguments i think.

And 5th Nov is when Evan Chandler topped himself..  hmmm....
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 01, 2010, 08:49:58 PM
I have just watched V, and i noticed after his broadcast he leaves a bomb, and when they show close up it says 3.30, could that poss b the date used by Mike for his return?
Also if i remember the part right, in the speach he says a year from now, they will remember, could it even be the date of the TII announcment at O2 last year, the same date this year will be the BIG one, I'm Back?!!
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 01, 2010, 08:54:29 PM
I have loved this movie since I first saw it in the theatres, and have watched it many times over the years. I can't think of movies much better than this one. I was astonished, however, the parallels between this film and Michael. There is no doubt in my mind that Michael really felt a kinship to V, and adopted many of its ideas and philosophies because they so precisely mirrored his own.

There is no way there are conincidences this profound. Well done. Take a bow.
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 01, 2010, 08:57:05 PM
"remember, remember the 5th of November... gunpowder, treason and plot"

Well... evan chandler did kill himself by gun...  and he did plot against MJ....     i will have to leave the treason bit out for now..  :lol:

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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 20, 2010, 02:15:12 PM
wow :o i must see this movie again :shock:  :shock:
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 20, 2010, 02:29:01 PM
I haven't seen this movie yet. I'm going to watch it tonight. Been watching all the video comparisons and reading about it and am already convinced that it is very veryyy much connected. Wow. I am at a loss for words right now and that doesn't happen often.
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 20, 2010, 03:26:59 PM
Okay I'm watching the movie online at work LOL I couldn't wait until I got off... I'm noticing SO MUCH as I'm watching. Like V's "home" is so much like Michael's. Full of "strange" and beautfiul things. When he is cooking breakfast Evey notices his hands. Looks like burns. And he puts his gloves back on and says "there, that's better". The Michael Jackson BURN center.... his glove and other things on his hands to cover the vitiligo. Wow. So many paralells. I first noticed all the parallels in This Is It and the movie 2012..and now theres this (even though this was already here but it's new for me as I'm just watching it for the first time). I'm just sitting here thinking... what if.. what if Michael is behind the production for V for Vendetta? You know if 2005 when he told Geraldo that "film" was next for him and that there are "a lot of surprises". I personally wouldn't be surprised if he wrote this movie under a pen name or something. Same goes for 2012. Of course, maybe he just saw this movie and fell in love with it and based a lot of the hoax aspects on it. But I think it's possible to take the idea even further.

I'm sure I'll have more comments as I continue watching this movie... I just had to say something... I think I'm losing my mind!! This is insane! And This is IT  ;)
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 21, 2010, 03:01:00 PM
@ jacilovesmichael
Yes, you are so right about this movie!I was as surprised as everybody here!  :o  :o  :o
 After reading this thread, last night, today I watched the movie on the internet because I wanted to see for my self all the similarities I read about in this thread, wich by the way it's a very good thread! woow :o  I was blown away by this movie, V for Vendetta!
I read on the internet that in the Credits, at the end of the movie, theres this name Michael Michael ! ( we should check this ) ;)  is this another coincidence? Did Mike had anything to do with this movie? he created the story? he even played in the movie? thats why the actor weres a mask the entire movie? I'm asking these Qs bcz watching this movie, made me think about M ike, .....the same stature...slim..tall... :? Or maybe he just found inspiration in this movie? for the TII Project?? :?:  :!:
Theres a lot about this movie , and I think we should pay more attention to it!  ;)

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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 21, 2010, 10:31:53 PM
I agree!

Wow...Michael Michael?  That reminds me of...Dave Dave! And he's a burn victim. V was burned badly. Could it all be tied together?
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Re: More V for Vendetta

  • on: January 22, 2010, 04:12:17 PM
Jacilovesmichael ;) Yes! after giving a lot of thought about this, I think it's all very much tide together! :mrgreen:  
 When V made the announcement (on 5th of Nov), he asked for everybody to stand by his side 1 year later for The Revolution!
Mike made the O2 Announcement on 5th March 2009! So.. 1 year later since that date, On 5th March 2010  should we expect something Big to happen?? ;)  :?:  :?:  :?:
I tend to think that very much of this Hoax has the answers we're looking for in this V for Vendetta movie!  :idea: What if the ANSWERS were right in front of our eyes, but we couldn't see them, bcz we were to busy analyzing more then we should've??? :idea:  :?:  :!:
There are way to many coincidences  here ! :shock:  and  it's impossible to ignore all this!  ;)
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