Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

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Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 12:12:36 AM
I don't know if this was posted already. I looked for it but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Jermaine Jackson
December 14, 2009 by rob
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The brother of Michael Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, has made a statement about his father that as seen from the stand point of Michael Jackson he was perceived him as cruel and harsh. Jermaine Jackson is of the firm view that his brother developed the erroneous perception about their father. He told that his father was not like the one his brother portrayed. He told that his brother, when he was alive, made wrong accusations on his father, Joe, according to reports of ContactMusic. Michael Jackson revealed many stories about this father how he used to scold and torture him not only physically but also psychologically.

The pop legend died few months ago due to intake of cocktail of drugs suggested by his doctor which resulted in his death. Many-time plastic surgeries had led to painful complications for which he had to use drugs to mitigate his pain. But excessive and frequent drug use had made him an addict.

Jermaine Jackson is of the view that his father played a vital role in their music endeavors which couldn’t be accomplished without him. Jermaine told that they are having the fruits of his father’s strictness which they hated at an immature age.

The points Jermaine has made carry weight but the timing of the statement seems inappropriate. Jermaine Jackson has come up to expurgate and exonerate his father from the allegations of his deceased brother at a time when he can not come up to counter them. Now a pertinent question arises where Jermaine Jackson was when Michael made these allegations.

Here's the link it you want to read it there: http://http://www.makli.com/jermaine-jackson-0016970/

I just find it wierd that Jermaine would say something like this. It's just confusing how all of a sudden the brothers are now stating that Joe's actions made them the men they are today (Recently On the Jack5ons Show).


What do you guys think?  :|
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 12:21:33 AM
This is the first time that I have read that Michael's "many" surgeries made him into a drug addict.  :?

And, yes, where was Jermaine when Michael made these allegations?  I never heard him refute them before.  I believe that he has always been jealous of Michael's stature and success.  Remember his very bad, Bad response song.  I don't think the Jackson 4 put together have as much talent as Michael has in half his pinky.  A bunch of has been, hanger oners, trying to use their brother's name to get back in the spotlight, if you ask me.  And, they are not doing a very good job of it either.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 12:38:38 AM
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This is the first time that I have read that Michael's "many" surgeries made him into a drug addict.  :?


I nerver heard that before either :? ...What I read is that Michael was on painkillers after the pepsi accident...
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 12:45:51 AM
Jermaine is pathetic I thought he was a nice guy but to say Michael was lieng is just pathetic, who would make up stories about there father and stick to those stories for like 20 years screw Jermaine the jealousy is taking over his life
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 01:42:30 AM
Jermaine has always been jealous of MJ because before MJ came along Jermaine was the lead singer, and he got BOOTED  :lol:  because Michael is freakin awesome.. i think the Jack5on 5 family dynasty is just a mid life crisis hehe and they are trying to go back in time and be cool again lol  but thats impossible without Michael Jackson in it DUH... Jermain NO ONE GIVES A CRUD ABOUT YOU MONEY GRUBBING A$$!!! W/out MJ your nothin
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 01:43:29 AM
After the fiasco with the 'Bashit' documentary there was another one done..This one was done to largely discredit Martin's doco...Anyway my point is, that in the second doco Jermaine and his mother and father all spoke out about some of the accusations Mike had alleged against Mr Jackson...Jermaine and his parents all stated that while Joe did hit the kids it was done out of love and things weren't as bad as Mike perceived them to be..During this same interview Mr and Mrs Jackson also said that Mike had his brothers to play with as a child and was not lonely...Now make of that what you will but Jermaine has definately spoken out before.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 02:01:52 AM
There is something seriously wrong here...with Joe and Jermaine.
"something we made"?   :twisted:
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 02:32:01 AM
well, michael stated that he had forgiven his dad and he also gave him credits for all the achievements he got..so, jermaine's statements are invalid.  :D
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 01:04:56 PM
One word:  PERCEPTION

How Michael was treated, in his own view, is perceived differently by Jermaine. What Michael saw as abusive, Jermain could just as easily view as Joseph being strict. It's all about PERCEPTION. Whatever Michael has claimed about his father is TRUE--it's Michael's TRUTH...not Jermaine's truth. And Michael's truth is not wrong, anymore than Jermaine's is. They both perceive their experiences differently. This is normal. This is human.

Michael loves his father. He has said on more than one occasion that he credits his father for the success of the J5. I have heard him in more than one interview call his father a genius, from whom he learned a lot. He has also said that he forgave his father and he loves him.

This statement was NOT made by Jermaine:
"he pop legend died few months ago due to intake of cocktail of drugs suggested by his doctor which resulted in his death. Many-time plastic surgeries had led to painful complications for which he had to use drugs to mitigate his pain. But excessive and frequent drug use had made him an addict." That is not a quote attributed to Jermaine in that article.

Also  note that all of that info is on a blog, not something coming from a news source.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 01:28:52 PM
I agree with Christiana.
It was said several times that he has excused his father.

And, it's said in the press that he made his several plastic surgeries to not have the face of this father. Is it true ?
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 01:29:21 PM
Quote from: "Liberian Girl Heehee"
This is the first time that I have read that Michael's "many" surgeries made him into a drug addict.  :?

could be true. easily.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 01:30:46 PM
Quote from: "Christiana"
One word:  PERCEPTION

How Michael was treated, in his own view, is perceived differently by Jermaine. What Michael saw as abusive, Jermain could just as easily view as Joseph being strict. It's all about PERCEPTION. Whatever Michael has claimed about his father is TRUE--it's Michael's TRUTH...not Jermaine's truth. And Michael's truth is not wrong, anymore than Jermaine's is. They both perceive their experiences differently. This is normal. This is human.

Michael loves his father. He has said on more than one occasion that he credits his father for the success of the J5. I have heard him in more than one interview call his father a genius, from whom he learned a lot. He has also said that he forgave his father and he loves him.

This statement was NOT made by Jermaine:
"he pop legend died few months ago due to intake of cocktail of drugs suggested by his doctor which resulted in his death. Many-time plastic surgeries had led to painful complications for which he had to use drugs to mitigate his pain. But excessive and frequent drug use had made him an addict." That is not a quote attributed to Jermaine in that article.

Also note that all of that info is on a blog, not something coming from a news source.

you are totally right.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 02:36:12 PM
I don't believe it. I don't believe anything that comes from JerKmaine (if he really said that)
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 02:54:20 PM
Quote from: "Christiana"
One word:  PERCEPTION

How Michael was treated, in his own view, is perceived differently by Jermaine. What Michael saw as abusive, Jermain could just as easily view as Joseph being strict. It's all about PERCEPTION. Whatever Michael has claimed about his father is TRUE--it's Michael's TRUTH...not Jermaine's truth. And Michael's truth is not wrong, anymore than Jermaine's is. They both perceive their experiences differently. This is normal. This is human.

Michael loves his father. He has said on more than one occasion that he credits his father for the success of the J5. I have heard him in more than one interview call his father a genius, from whom he learned a lot. He has also said that he forgave his father and he loves him.

This statement was NOT made by Jermaine:
"he pop legend died few months ago due to intake of cocktail of drugs suggested by his doctor which resulted in his death. Many-time plastic surgeries had led to painful complications for which he had to use drugs to mitigate his pain. But excessive and frequent drug use had made him an addict." That is not a quote attributed to Jermaine in that article.

Also  note that all of that info is on a blog, not something coming from a news source.


I agree!!  cause michael could never raise a hand over a child, or a person, or an animal...
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 03:10:28 PM
"The pop legend died few months ago due to intake of cocktail of drugs suggested by his doctor which resulted in his death. Many-time plastic surgeries had led to painful complications for which he had to use drugs to mitigate his pain. But excessive and frequent drug use had made him an addict."

I would like to know how and when did this guy know that... It could be easily just speculation.
And even for Jermaine's statement... when did he said that? The man who wrote this hasn't got the own words of Jermaine ...

But I do agree with Christiana, Michael may have not perceived his father behavior like Jermaine have.
Plus I agree, Michael has never claimed all along that his father was abusive.  Many times in interview he said that he owed him for what he has become. I remember too "my father is a genius"
Michael is on earth thanks to him and his father raised him keeping him away from the criminality in his neighbourhood. He created the Jackson 5 and then, you know the following story  ;) He was scared of him because of what he did to him when he was a child but Michael said he forgave him ...
We don't know the whole story afterall..
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:44:29 PM
Well, every personal experience is subjective. There's no point for Jermaine to make such value judgements regarding how MJ feels about his/their father...Hmmm.."Word to the Badd" by Jermaine.. I wonder who's the "badder..." lol! :lol:
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 04:58:38 PM
Quote from: "TheKiddNerd"
I don't know if this was posted already. I looked for it but I couldn't find it anywhere.

Jermaine Jackson
December 14, 2009 by rob
Filed under U.S. News
The brother of Michael Jackson, Jermaine Jackson, has made a statement about his father that as seen from the stand point of Michael Jackson he was perceived him as cruel and harsh. Jermaine Jackson is of the firm view that his brother developed the erroneous perception about their father. He told that his father was not like the one his brother portrayed. He told that his brother, when he was alive, made wrong accusations on his father, Joe, according to reports of ContactMusic. Michael Jackson revealed many stories about this father how he used to scold and torture him not only physically but also psychologically.

The pop legend died few months ago due to intake of cocktail of drugs suggested by his doctor which resulted in his death. Many-time plastic surgeries had led to painful complications for which he had to use drugs to mitigate his pain. But excessive and frequent drug use had made him an addict.

Jermaine Jackson is of the view that his father played a vital role in their music endeavors which couldn’t be accomplished without him. Jermaine told that they are having the fruits of his father’s strictness which they hated at an immature age.

The points Jermaine has made carry weight but the timing of the statement seems inappropriate. Jermaine Jackson has come up to expurgate and exonerate his father from the allegations of his deceased brother at a time when he can not come up to counter them. Now a pertinent question arises where Jermaine Jackson was when Michael made these allegations.

What do you guys think?  :|

I don’t find this weird and I to some extent agree with Christiana. However wasn’t Jermaine the one directing "The American dream: The Jacksons" which was about how the brothers grew up together and it showed quite in details how Michael felt and how abusive their father was, it was real abuse not spanking. Did Jermaine change the truth or perhaps he didn’t have a lot to say during those making of the documentary which I doubt.  
He later goes to do an interview together with his parents to support Joe and his actions, I don’t know wheter we have double morals or change of perspectives here…
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 06:07:08 PM
Only God, Michael and his Father, knows what went on when he was younger.  All the Jackson siblings came out and said that Joseph was hard on them.  Harshness affects children differently.  All that Michael wanted was to be loved and for his Father to show him love.  He did feel alone, even though he had his siblings, Michael wanted to play with children his own age that was not around the business.  He was not able to have that.  I read that Michael would sometime go walk on the street and ask people to be his friend.  That's all he wanted.  He wanted friendship.  He wanted to play hide and seek.  Have pillow fights.  Do what children do.  This is why as an adult, Michael was more comfortable around children because they wanted to have that fun.  Children are true to nature.  They will tell you what you sometime don't want to hear.  It's that unconditional love that we all seek in our own lives.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:11:31 PM
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I don’t find this weird and I to some extent agree with Christiana. However wasn’t Jermaine the one directing "The American dream: The Jacksons" which was about how the brothers grew up together and it showed quite in details how Michael felt and how abusive their father was, it was real abuse not spanking. Did Jermaine change the truth or perhaps he didn’t have a lot to say during those making of the documentary which I doubt.  
He later goes to do an interview together with his parents to support Joe and his actions, I don’t know wheter we have double morals or change of perspectives here…

Jermaine didn't direct The Jacksons: An American Dream. It was directed by Karen Arthur and written by Joyce Eliason. Jermaine was one of the movie's 5 producers.

And again, the term "abuse" is really rather subjective. Though we might find the depiction of Joseph's behavior as "abusive," I guarantee you there are plenty of people who do not. It's subjective and based on perception.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:19:26 PM
It may have made them the men they are today... rich/successful.. but that doesn't mean that they have walked away from Joe's abuse unscathed.. I believe Michael had low self esteem due to the verbal abuse he suffered as a child. Perhaps, Jermaine didn't endure what Michael did.. because he wasn't Joe's golden child..
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:39:23 PM
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Only God, Michael and his Father, knows what went on when he was younger.  All the Jackson siblings came out and said that Joseph was hard on them.  Harshness affects children differently.  All that Michael wanted was to be loved and for his Father to show him love.  He did feel alone, even though he had his siblings, Michael wanted to play with children his own age that was not around the business.  He was not able to have that.  I read that Michael would sometime go walk on the street and ask people to be his friend.  That's all he wanted.  He wanted friendship.  He wanted to play hide and seek.  Have pillow fights.  Do what children do.  This is why as an adult, Michael was more comfortable around children because they wanted to have that fun.  Children are true to nature.  They will tell you what you sometime don't want to hear.  It's that unconditional love that we all seek in our own lives.

Great post, I agree with you.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:48:53 PM
I agree ,children are differant and I believe Michael was more sensitive. People who were close to Michael ALL say that he would be the first to say that his childhood wa horrible but he would also tell you that he forgave his father. The most detailed he ever got are in those Rabbi tapes which is just hurtful to hear,but they are therapy tapes. He did not feel love from his father. I dont think his father had to be hard to make them famous or successful,and MJ would not have made such a point of raising his children differant than he was,if he were not effected in an adverse way.
 This article does not quote Jermaine as saying Michael lied it quotes him as saying "he was wrong. This could mean that he feels Michael should have never said anything,maybe he felt it was going against their father,which I have a feeling alot of what Michael did was going against Joe Jackson.
 As far as making them what they are today? What are they today? They have a show about what they used to be. I'm not saying that because I am MJ fan,EVERY child in a family does not have the exact same talent or draw.
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:52:25 PM
What moved me the most about Mike's relationship with Joseph was the fact that Joseph often criticised Mike after the concerts and even slapped him in the face. Then he introduced him into the hotel room full of girls, fans, groupies etc... They were giggling and Michael wanted to cry, he felt so humiliated but he had to pretend everything was ok... Just imagine how he must have felt... How cruel Joseph was... (Michael mentions that in Schmuley's book as far as I remember...)  :?
I wonder if he did that to Jermaine... Probably not, because he stayed in Motown with his lovely wife...  :roll:
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:53:05 PM
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I agree ,children are differant and I believe Michael was more sensitive. People who were close to Michael ALL say that he would be the first to say that his childhood wa horrible but he would also tell you that he forgave his father. The most detailed he ever got are in those Rabbi tapes which is just hurtful to hear,but they are therapy tapes. He did not feel love from his father. I dont think his father had to be hard to make them famous or successful,and MJ would not have made such a point of raising his children differant than he was,if he were not effected in an adverse way.
 This article does not quote Jermaine as saying Michael lied it quotes him as saying "he was wrong. This could mean that he feels Michael should have never said anything,maybe he felt it was going against their father,which I have a feeling alot of what Michael did was going against Joe Jackson.
 As far as making them what they are today? What are they today? They have a show about what they used to be. I'm not saying that because I am MJ fan,EVERY child in a family does not have the exact same talent or draw.


lol ...what are they today.. they have a show about what they used to be .. that's true and hysterical neverlandprincess  :lol:
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Re: Jermaine said... "Michael Was Wrong"

  • on: December 29, 2009, 07:54:45 PM
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Quote from: "neverlandprincess"
I agree ,children are differant and I believe Michael was more sensitive. People who were close to Michael ALL say that he would be the first to say that his childhood wa horrible but he would also tell you that he forgave his father. The most detailed he ever got are in those Rabbi tapes which is just hurtful to hear,but they are therapy tapes. He did not feel love from his father. I dont think his father had to be hard to make them famous or successful,and MJ would not have made such a point of raising his children differant than he was,if he were not effected in an adverse way.
 This article does not quote Jermaine as saying Michael lied it quotes him as saying "he was wrong. This could mean that he feels Michael should have never said anything,maybe he felt it was going against their father,which I have a feeling alot of what Michael did was going against Joe Jackson.
 As far as making them what they are today? What are they today? They have a show about what they used to be. I'm not saying that because I am MJ fan,EVERY child in a family does not have the exact same talent or draw.


lol ...what are they today.. they have a show about what they used to be .. that's true and hysterical neverlandprincess  :lol:
Thanks Chance! :D
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