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See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 19, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
I just wanted to let everyone know the redirect for Thisisalsoit.com is leading us to a strange message "See you next Wednesday :multiplespotting:! Could it be or is it a lie?  :over-react-smiley: June 25th 2014. Not saying I believe this is real only showing what it is leading to.please put it in its appropriate blog.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 19, 2014, 11:07:37 AM
OMG   :icon_eek:  I just checked thisisalsoit myself just  :multiplespotting:


Can this be true ? is it another rabbit hole, only time will tell.    :compute:

Hold tight everyone this could get very interesting   :icon_e_biggrin:



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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 22, 2014, 11:39:00 AM
How i wish this to be true? You'd have no idea.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 23, 2014, 08:25:58 AM
Wikipedia definition: See you next Wednesday is a recurring in most movies directed by John Landis gag, usually refers to a fictional film that is rarely seen and never in full. Each instance of seeing him next Wednesday at Landis films seems to be a completely different movie.
Interestingly John Landis has a lot to do with MJ. Their first work together was nothing more nor less than Thriller!

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 23, 2014, 11:37:10 AM
How i wish this to be true? You'd have no idea.

Me too.. I feel like nothing is going to happen though.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 23, 2014, 04:04:17 PM
List of Events Marking 5th Anniversary of Michael Jackson’s Death


There are a number of events scheduled to take place around the country and throughout the world to commemorate the fifth anniversary of Michael Jackson’s death on June 25, 2009.
A sampling:
— Brad Sundberg, a longtime member of Jackson’s technical team, presents his “In the Studio With MJ: The Homecoming” seminar in Los Angeles June 23 through 26, featuring music, photos and stories about working with the King of Pop; tickets are $249 to $339.
— Channel Islands Helicopters in Oxnard, California, will offer private helicopter tours over Jackson’s Neverland Ranch in the Santa Ynez Valley on June 23 and 24; $175 per person.
— Fans are invited to dress as the late icon for a celebration of his music and videos at Watha T. Daniel-Shaw Neighborhood Library in Washington, D.C., from 6:30 to 8:30 p.m. on June 25; free admission.
— The San Diego County Fair in Del Mar, California, will host Who’s Bad, a Jackson tribute band, for a special performance at 7 p.m. on June 25; concert included with $14 fair admission.
— Jackson fans in the Netherlands will gather at Scheveningen Beach to commemorate his death by lighting lanterns at 8 p.m. on June 25; free admission.
— Spanish fans will hold vigils at Playa Catalunya in Barcelona and Playa de la Victoria in Cadiz beginning at 8:30 p.m. on June 25; free admission.
— Los Angeles fans will gather at Jackson’s star on Hollywood’s Walk of Fame at 10 p.m. on June 25 to sing, light candles and display flags from around the world; free.
We want to hear from you, are you planning on attending any of these events? How are you celebrating the anniversary of the King of Pop?


http://blackamericaweb.com/2014/06/20/list-of-events-marking-5th-anniversary-of-michael-jacksons-death/
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 25, 2014, 08:13:28 AM
My tv is broken if anyone sees Michael on the news please tell me so I can go over my friends to watch. Who else thinks he's coming back today? I know he is

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 25, 2014, 05:38:24 PM
How i wish this to be true? You'd have no idea.

Me too.. I feel like nothing is going to happen though.

how could i stop hoping ?
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 25, 2014, 06:18:49 PM
I stopped following TS a while ago and the 'BAM' post was just too much. This one as well. I wonder how many false statements TS will come out with? I agree with people that he is certainly an intelligent person and it is my opinion that he isn't deliberately misleading anyone. I believe he really thinks what he says, but I think he is deluded. Sorry.

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 25, 2014, 07:23:20 PM
I would have hope something to happen today, even without TS. It's nothing new to hope for something on this very special day.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 25, 2014, 09:35:32 PM
I stopped following TS a while ago and the 'BAM' post was just too much. This one as well. I wonder how many false statements TS will come out with? I agree with people that he is certainly an intelligent person and it is my opinion that he isn't deliberately misleading anyone. I believe he really thinks what he says, but I think he is deluded. Sorry.

I think it is deliberate misleading. Purpose-I don't know and don't care. So, today is Wedn.  June 25, 2014, who's seeing us?
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 25, 2014, 10:40:06 PM
people high expectations of a BAM sometimes may cloud the true meaning behind certain words and catch phrases which pop up time to time on the forums. TS seems to mimic to a certain degree that of MJHOAXEVIDENCE. feels like a religious cult of how we the consumer are looking for a leader to lead us to the light. They may provide some relief to reality.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 01:07:49 AM
I stopped following TS a while ago and the 'BAM' post was just too much. This one as well. I wonder how many false statements TS will come out with? I agree with people that he is certainly an intelligent person and it is my opinion that he isn't deliberately misleading anyone. I believe he really thinks what he says, but I think he is deluded. Sorry.

I think it is deliberate misleading. Purpose-I don't know and don't care. So, today is Wedn.  June 25, 2014, who's seeing us?

Reminds me of "See you in July."  Doesn't mean that we would see THEM now does it?? 

I still think this may have more to do with 2001 A Space Odyssey, where the term first originated.  An occult movie if there ever was one, this iconic film has numerous Saturnian references, such as the black cube.  As for TS redirect, as it turns out, Frank's parents never do see him that next Wednesday because he unplugs the computer HAL(IBM), a reference to the ego mind, and a new Frank dies and is reborn.  Anything here of interest or have I drifted too far out into space myself?

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 02:04:13 AM
Well Gwynned, maybe TS has 'unplugged the computer'; TIAI is now redirecting to the GoDaddy domain site again. Maybe he's finally had enough.


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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 02:25:29 AM
I shall never stop believing. But I don't pay a lot of attention to the BAM stuff. If MJ were to return, it would be when we least expect it.

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 08:19:53 AM
That is interesting gwynned and as curls says thisisalsoit now directs to the go daddy domain purchaser so it is very possible that is what he meant. I just have no reason anymore to think that TS knows anything more than anyone else. It's not a problem for me, It's just how I feel. I can't think of a single 'prediction' of his that has come true, although he did find ways (in my opinion) of fitting current events into his predictions to 'validate' them. I started to get concerned when all the religious stuff was being focused on. I'm not anti-religion, I'm agnostic but I think it's dangerous to use Michael Jackson in order to recruit religious followers (which is what he was doing in my opinion). I think he believes his predictions and is a very religious man so feels he needs to tell us, but then again there is always a way to cover himself should the prediction not be accurate. There are only so many times you can give false predictions and false hope I guess. Maybe like curls says, he's had enough.

In regards to MJ being alive- it's 50/50 to me. Depends on what day I wake up if I believe that day. Not much would surprise me anymore!

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 09:46:52 AM
The only thing that was a news story was Conrad Murray having a drink of milk  :screaming-7365: lol I also do not care when and if a BAM occurs. I just want the truth that has been promised to us for the last 5 years. I think those people who have felt something was not right deserve the truth if he was murdered or not and if he was murdered bring the ones responsible for the crime to justice. The family implicated the illuminati in one of the storys told,why has that stayed so quiet all these years,I know if MJ was my brother and I knew he was murdered by someone. I would be screaming from the rooftops to let everyone know what really happened. I have held on for all these years,but it is crazy all the so called hoax clues that has been since the first day of Michael's "death".Anyone who really looked knows something is not right. People with open minds just want to know what the real story is and I guess it don't matter how long we wait. Everyone here is just looking for one thing and that is the "Truth"!  :abouttime:  :smiley-vault-misc-150:

                                                                               

Five years after the death of Michael Jackson, CNN's Don Lemon spoke exclusively to Michael Jackson's former physician Conrad Murray. Murray spoke about his conviction, his relationship with Jackson and his children, his medical care of Jackson and more.
Videos:
Conrad Murray: "I'm remorseful"
Conrad Murray: "Michael was penniless"
Murray on dynamics of Jackson's family
 
Transcript:
THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.
DON LEMON, CNN ANCHOR:  This is CNN TONIGHT.  I'm Don Lemon.
 
It's hard to believe that it was five years ago that Michael Jackson died.  His doctor, Conrad Murray, found guilty of involuntary manslaughter, spending two years behind bars, but that is not the end of the story.
 
Tonight, you're going to hear from Dr. Conrad Murray.  There he is, live right here.  It is his first and only American interview since his release from prison, and he says he wants to set the record straight once and for all.
 
Plus, talk about ripped from the headlines, the Army investigating freed POW Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl.  Special forces operatives lure the Benghazi suspect into a trap.  It's almost as if Hollywood wrote it.  So who better to talk to than the man behind "Homeland," Howard Gordon?
 
And it could be the biggest World Cup game yet, team USA vs. Germany tomorrow.  We're going preview it for you.
 
And, as always, we want to know what you think about all of this.  Make sure you tweet us using #AskDon.
 
But, first, I want to give you my take on Dr. Conrad Murray as he sits here right in front of me live this evening.
 
Doctor, many people were wondering why we should even give you a platform on the anniversary of Michael Jackson's death, like Jo, who wrote on Twitter: "Why has Michael's killer given airtime?"
 
That's what she said.  "Show some respect on our legend's anniversary."
 
I believe, if we played by those rules, we would never do an interview.  And I believe in transparency and having as much information as possible.  Dr. Murray agreed to do this interview knowing that no question is off limits, and he has promised to answer each of them candidly and honestly.
 
Correct?
 
CONRAD MURRAY, FORMER PERSONAL PHYSICIAN OF MICHAEL JACKSON:  That's correct.
 
LEMON:  Right.  Let's move on now.
 
Before we get started, I want to go back to the trial that sent you, Dr. Murray, to prison for your role in Michael Jackson's death.
 
Here is CNN's Sara Sidner.
 
(BEGIN VIDEOTAPE)
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:  We the jury in the above entitled action find the defendant, Conrad Robert Murray, guilty.
 
SARA SIDNER, CNN INTERNATIONAL CORRESPONDENT (voice-over):  Dr. Conrad Murray spent two years in prison, convicted of involuntary manslaughter for providing the king of pop an overdose of the powerful anesthetic Propofol.  It was supposed to help Michael Jackson sleep.  Instead, it killed him.  His family and fans were devastated.
 
Back in 2009, as Michael Jackson rehearsed for his upcoming This Is It world tour, he struggled with his pain and trouble sleeping.  Dr. Murray was his personal physician.  A month-and-a-half before Jackson died in his bedroom, the star's voice was recorded on Murray's cell phone.  It was entered into court evidence.
 
MICHAEL JACKSON, ENTERTAINER:  I want them to say he's the greatest entertainer in the world.
 
SIDNER:  Prosecutors made the case that the drug-induced slurred speech was a clear sign that Jackson was out of control, and Dr. Murray should have known that he needed to be weaned off Propofol.
 
Instead, prosecutors say the doctor ordered more.  But Murray has maintained he was trying to wean the star off the drug, and it was Jackson who self-administered the fatal dose.  But a jury blamed Dr. Murray for Jackson's death, saying he was responsible.
 
Dr. Murray went to prison, his medical license revoted in Texas and suspended in California and Nevada.  Eight months ago, his time served, he walked out of prison.
 
MURRAY:  This is part of the untold story.
 
SIDNER:  Murray is vowing to get his medical license back.  He has even published his own video to reassert his claim that he was wrongfully convicted.  His attorney says he may appeal his case all the way to the Supreme Court.
 
VALERIE WASS, ATTORNEY FOR MURRAY:  He has been adamant about his innocence.  And after spending two years on the case, I truly believe in him.  And I believe he was wrongfully convicted also.
 
SIDNER:  Sara Sidner, CNN, Los Angeles.
 
(END VIDEOTAPE)
 
LEMON:  So, joining me now exclusively to tell his side of the story is Dr. Conrad Murray.
 
When I said what the person said in that tweet, murderer, you flinched.  Why?
 
MURRAY:  Well, I'm not.
 
LEMON:  Killer?
 
MURRAY:  Not.
 
LEMON:  Not.  Not.  So that bothers you.
 
Before we get to the video, right, that talks about - Dr. Conrad Murray talks, it's 7:00 p.m. on the West Coast, 10:00 on the East Coast.  Five years ago, what were you doing at this very moment?
 
MURRAY:  Oh, my gosh.
 
At this time, it was just monumental grief, an unexpected, surreal situation.  I cannot believe the changes that happened within a couple of hours.  It was just impossible.  It was just unfathomable.
 
I could not believe that, just hours ago, I was trying to muster all the strength I can to save the life of a friend and a patient, and here I am, on to the spotlight, all focus, fingers pointing as though I'm the one to blame.
 
LEMON:  Were you still at the hospital?  Because I know you went to the ambulance with him.  Right?
 
MURRAY:  I stayed in the hospital until near 6:00, maybe after 5:30.  I was...
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
LEMON:  Pacific time?
 
MURRAY:  Yes.
 
LEMON:  Right.  So at this time, were you back at his mansion?  Where were you?
 
MURRAY:  At this time, I would probably be at home.  I got home to the apartment.
 
LEMON:  Yes.
 
Let's - I want to - what do you remember about that day?  Because I have done several documentaries, and I start them by saying, on the morning, he did everything that he - you know, preparing for a show, that he loved, preparing for a show.  What do you remember about that day?
 
MURRAY:  Well, you know, what time of day?  You talk about the time he came home, which is the night before, around 1:00, just shortly after 1:00.  And he just was not able to sleep.
 
LEMON:  OK.
 
Here is the timeline, just to refresh your memory.  So, 1:00 a.m., Murray summoned to Jackson's home, right, 1:30 a.m., 10 milligram tablet of Valium, 2:00 a.m., two milligrams of lorazepam.
 
Lorazepam injected into him; 3:00 a.m., two milligrams of midazolam, right?  And then, 5:00 a.m., more lorazepam, two milligrams.  And then again, 7:30, two milligrams again of midazolam, and then Propofol diluted, 25 milligrams.
 
MURRAY:  So you can just summarize.  Let's make it simple.
 
There were four milligrams of lorazepam given to him during that - all of the time you spoke about and four milligrams of midazolam.  They were just in divided doses.
 
LEMON:  So,why - were you ever worried about administering so many drugs to Michael Jackson?  Did you ever think like, you know, this person could die, but I'm giving him so many drugs?
 
MURRAY:  But, certainly, I do not think Michael Jackson would die from four milligrams of lorazepam or four milligrams of midazolam.
 
We do that all the time in the hospital.  But, certainly, I was divided and I was very cautious as far as giving Michael Jackson that type of medication to sleep.  As you know, before that time, Michael Jackson was on Propofol.  And I had warned him successfully off of Propofol up to three days prior to his death.  He never received Propofol.
 
LEMON:  But not successfully then, if you had - you said you had weaned him off.
 
MURRAY:  Yes.
 
LEMON:  But then why did he go back on?
 
MURRAY:  He did not go back on.
 
Before that, I would treat Michael Jackson with an infusion.  It was continuous.  But the day he died, I did tell the police that I relented after all of the pressure and all of the changes that Michael was going through.  Unbeknownst to me, it was because he was in withdrawal of another substance.
 
LEMON:  Which was?
 
MURRAY:  Demerol.
 
LEMON:  Demerol, which was brought about - which your lawyers asserted in trial that he was on Demerol.
 
MURRAY:  Well, he was on Demerol for years and decades.  And if you see the doses that were given, if you look back into the video, as I describe, from Dr. Arnold Klein, he made Michael Jackson a drug addict from Demerol.
 
LEMON:  What were the changes?  You said because the changes his body was going through.
 
MURRAY:  It was just like Michael was a hamster, could not sit down, could not rest, was restless.  And he cried and craved sleep.
 
LEMON:  You said that actually in trial.  Let's listen to when you said he was like on a hamster wheel.  In the video, you said it, in the video that you have out.  Dr. Conrad Murray talks.  Let's watch this.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
MURRAY:  So in Michael's case, what he needed that night was not Demerol.  It was not Propofol, excuse me.  He needed to have Demerol.  But since his supply chain was cut from Beverly Hills, he was on his own.
 
And he had never shared that with me.  So I had no idea why it was so impossible to see Michael like a hamster that night, couldn't sit down, couldn't - restless, looked as though he was out of the movie "Thriller."
 
And I could not imagine that he was doing something like this.  Had I had any knowledge, his treatment would have been different.  He would have been taken to a hospital for acute withdrawal from opioids, and he would have been treated accordingly.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
LEMON:  The video that is posted on your Web site, that you go through all the evidence in the trial and you knock it down.  You refute what you think is wrong about the trial.
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
LEMON:  You said you didn't know that about him.  Shouldn't you have known, though, as his physician?
 
MURRAY:  If I made any inquiries of Michael as far as drug use and he never give the information up, then how would I get it?
 
LEMON:  Yes.
 
MURRAY:  I mean, I would have to depend on my patient to tell me the truth.  And I never got any information from Michael.
 
LEMON:  My question is, if you say that he was like a hamster up and down, why would you leave him alone for any amount of time?
 
MURRAY:  It was not that I was leaving Michael alone.  So many times, Michael left me alone.
 
LEMON:  But on that night, you did?
 
MURRAY:  Well, no, I never left him during that night.  He left me.
 
I am - there are two suites, an exclusive bedroom, where I am not allowed.  His children sometimes were invited.  And the suite where I treated Michael, he was clearly able to wander off.  He has a saline bag with a drip on wheels.  There was a Foley catheter that's attached to him, because he had some incontinence issues.
 
And - but he would wander off and come back.
 
LEMON:  So you're - what you're asserting is that, on that evening, with all of those drugs, that he left where you were watching him and then went to another part of the bedroom.
 
But in trial, you said that you left to use the restroom, and you left.  You were on - taking a phone call.
 
MURRAY:  That wasn't until the next day.
 
LEMON:  Your attorney said that.  The next day.
 
MURRAY:  That was still the next day, after around 11:20 in the morning, 11:20, 11:30.
 
LEMON:  When did you realize he was in trouble?
 
MURRAY:  Was what?
 
LEMON:  When did you realize he was in trouble?
 
MURRAY:  Michael?
 
LEMON:  Yes.
 
MURRAY:  When I came back into the room after I had gone away, called my office, made some calls.
 
Whatever calls I was making was to make sure that my registration in England was complete, because I had to be his physician over there, and I didn't want to go practice without having registration.
 
And it was just about getting that done, the time zone, the differences.  We were taking care of that.  So part of the telephone calls to my office were related to that situation.  I was away from him for - remember, it was 11:25, 11:30.  But that was way beyond any medicine that I give him would have had any effect at all.
 
LEMON:  So do you take any responsibility in Michael Jackson's demise, in his death?
 
MURRAY:  You know, I am very remorseful that Michael has passed away.  Michael was a friend.
 
And he touched me in so many ways, that I felt like a father figure to Michael, though I wasn't old enough to be his dad.  I felt as though I was protecting Michael all the time.  I did.
 
LEMON:  People say they don't seem - that they don't think that you have shown any remorse.  Do you - is there - would you like to apologize to anyone?  Would you - what would you like to say?  Because they - why - as a physician, as Michael's physician, you were responsible for him while you were administering drugs.  You were responsible for the drugs that were brought into his home.  You were his personal physician.
 
MURRAY:  I think you ask a good question.
 
First of all, I met Michael Jackson with a stash of Propofol.  And the investigation will also show that there are doctors who could have testified that he came to them with a sports medicine bag filled with Propofol, vials.
 
The history of the civil trial shows that he had been using Propofol for decades, long before I came on the scene.  I met Michael Jackson in 2006.
 
LEMON:  But you didn't have to stay.  You didn't have to take the job.
 
MURRAY:  You know, I did not have to take Michael's job.
 
And Michael convinced me that I was working so hard saving lives as an acute interventionalist in cardiology, saving lives daily, and working long hours.  He wanted me to take some time off and travel, read some books with him, and just meet a bunch of high-powered kings and queens around the world.
 
But I give Michael a sense of confidence and protection that he never had.  And he was not about to lose that.
 
LEMON:  Are you saying you did it out - it wasn't for the money that you wore making?
 
MURRAY:  Oh, gosh, no.
 
LEMON:  It was out of the goodness of your heart?
 
MURRAY:  Not at all.
 
LEMON:  Not everybody is going to believe that.
 
MURRAY:  No.
 
First of all, have I taken care of Michael Jackson for years, out of the goodness of my heart, by giving all of my services for him and his children basically free.
 
LEMON:  Were you ever paid?
 
MURRAY:  Michael Jackson refunded me for medicines, but I have never been paid for my services.
 
LEMON:  All right, stand by, Dr. Murray.  There's lots more to talk about.
 
When we come right back, we are going to talk about your trial and whether justice was served.
 
We are going to take you inside this trial and show you information that you have never seen.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
WOLF BLITZER, CNN ANCHOR:  Both "The Los Angeles Times" and CBS News are both now reporting that Michael Jackson has died.  CNN has not confirmed that.  But "The L.A. Times" and CBS News are reporting that Michael Jackson, 50 years old, the king of pop, has died.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
 
LEMON:  This is the fifth anniversary of Michael Jackson's death, and now the man who was convicted of his involuntary manslaughter, Dr. Conrad Murray, is back with me exclusively.  This is his first and only exclusive American interview since he got out of prison.
 
He has agreed no question is off-limits and he is going to answer everything honestly.
 
So, I wanted to talk to you.  You talked a little bit about why you took the job and stayed on, even though you knew that Michael had some issues.  Did you identify with him?  What did you see in Michael Jackson that drew you to him and that someone, Michael, who was scared of his own pain, maybe?
 
MURRAY:  Like a fan, like somebody who got to know Michael Jackson.
 
Michael Jackson lived a life of pain for so many years, decades, his entire life, his existence.  And after I learned about all of the pains that he had fathomed, I could not help but be sympathetic to this man.  I could not help but to be empathetic.  I could not help but to wear his shoe, and I could not help but to listen to him.
 
LEMON:  But do you think that cloud - you said as a fan.  Did that cloud your judgment, because, in the end, it seemed that you did him more harm than good, no?
 
MURRAY:  Never, because I was hired to take - to make sure that Michael Jackson stayed healthy.
 
But I was also - I agreed with AEG and the - those who were taking care of Michael's finances that I would show up in about four weeks and wind my practice down gently, easily.  However, they - I was hustled to California because the show was off track.  It was going nowhere.
 
LEMON:  Because of - was this because of Michael Jackson's health?
 
MURRAY:  Because of Michael's performance.
 
LEMON:  Performance.
 
MURRAY:  He was not rehearsing.  He was not doing anything.
 
LEMON:  Because he couldn't sleep?
 
MURRAY:  And AEG has already spent $40 million.
 
LEMON:  Why wasn't he rehearsing or doing anything?
 
MURRAY:  I have no idea.
 
LEMON:  So they thought it was - had something to do with his health or medically?
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
MURRAY:  I'm not sure what AEG was thinking.
 
LEMON:  OK.
 
MURRAY:  But, clearly, they knew something.
 
LEMON:  Do you think that he was up to these - this 50 - this mammoth 50-show extravaganza that he was to star at the - in London?
 
MURRAY:  He was not.
 
LEMON:  OK.
 
MURRAY:  Michael was offered initially 10 shows.  It went to 31 and then subsequently to 50.  But no one knows that he was actually offered 100 shows.
 
LEMON:  OK.
 
This was something - and, by the way, I covered your trial.  I was there.
 
MURRAY:  Yes.
 
LEMON:  I sat right behind the family, right, right behind the mom and the dad.
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
LEMON:  And I want - this was very - when they played it, very emotional in court.
 
MURRAY:  Sure.
 
LEMON:  All right, you recorded Michael talking about the show.  Let's listen.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
JACKSON:  When people leave this show - when people leave my show, I want them to say, I've never seen nothing like this in my life.  Go.  Go.  I've never seen nothing like this.  Go.  It's amazing.  He's the greatest entertainer in the world.
 
(END AUDIO CLIP)
 
LEMON:  Dr. Murray, that is disturbing.  Anyone in that condition, why would you continue to give him drugs and then give him Propofol?  And why would you record that?
 
MURRAY:  Well, first of all, I was accused of recording that so that I can take advantage of Michael down the road.  And that was not the case.
 
I did not even recognize or realize that that recording was actually on my phone.  Michael had asked me, well, as far as I could look back, how much he snores at night.  And I would speak to him about that.  He wanted to record that, not only on tape, but on camera.  I actually had just learned from my daughter who taught me to do talks and one of the apps on the phone.
 
LEMON:  How to work it.
 
MURRAY:  Right.
 
LEMON:  But the question behind that is, so you were trying to monitor his sleep pattern, whether or not he was snoring, and that's how you got that recording.
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
MURRAY:  That's exactly how that was done when I look back in retrospect, yes.
 
LEMON:  So then why would you continue?  Because if he was...
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
MURRAY:  Interestingly - good question.
 
If you look at my - if you listen to that recording, you hear a man that is clearly in the sleep state of going to sleep.  But he is alert.  His conversation makes sense.
 
LEMON:  His mind is still active, even though he's in a sleep state.
 
MURRAY:  Yes.
 
But if you look at my statement to the police, I explained to them, to the police, all that Michael Jackson wanted, including the children's hospital.  Michael was just reiterating his dream to me.  At the end of that state, of that recording, did you hear what he says in the end?  He says, I'm asleep.
 
LEMON:  I'm asleep.
 
OK.  Let's move on.  Let's talk about the drugs, right, more about the drugs.  I want to play this bit from my documentary, and then we will talk about it.
 
MURRAY:  Sure.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
DAVID WALGREN, PROSECUTOR:  Two bottles of Lorazepam.  Lidocaine bottle.
 
LEMON:  DA Walgren added into evidence each vial and bottle found at Jackson's house one after another.
 
WALGREN:  To take a patient with Valium, lorazepam, midazolam, and Propofol and to leave them unattended in that state is medical abandonment.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
LEMON:  Did you abandon Michael Jackson, your friend, medically?  Are you guilty of that?
 
MURRAY:  Absolutely not.  David Walgren He is way off-field.
 
Abandonment has a clear definition in medicine, and that's not the case, neither did I abandon him on anything he was giving.  I have said very clearly, if Michael Jackson was in the Propofol infusion, that was a drip for three hours, as Dr. Shafer stated, from 9:00 until 12:00, and I left him with an infusion running, I would be guilty as sin, and I can accept that.
 
But he was not.
 
LEMON:  And this bag that was ripped open with the Propofol bottle laying inside of the I.V. bag?
 
MURRAY:  Interestingly, interestingly...
 
LEMON:  And you talk than on your video.
 
MURRAY:  Yes, Propofol comes with a hanging sleeve.  It's almost like opening a can of soda.  You pop it open.  You hang the bottle.
 
That bottle was discovered with that device being completely intact.  Why would I take something so simple, take a bag of saline, cut it open, empty the fluid, then stick a Propofol bottle inside of the bag, and then take the bag to become the hanging contraption.
 
LEMON:  If you knew all of this...
 
MURRAY:  Yes.
 
LEMON:  ... and I said I was there - and everyone kept saying, is he going to take the stand, is he going to take the stand?  Why didn't you do it at trial?  I'm - were you thinking all of this at trial?
 
MURRAY:  Because they had never proven a case.
 
First of all, they needed to have a drip, a continuous infusion.  That was not the case.  If you look at the numbers...
 
(CROSSTALK)
 
LEMON:  But my question is, Dr. Murray, why didn't you take the stand in defense of yourself?
 
MURRAY:  Because my attorney and I agreed that they had not proven the case against me, so there was no reason to take the stand.  That was the legal advice.
 
LEMON:  Your attorney was wrong.
 
MURRAY:  Well, would it have changed anything, Don?
 
If you look at the DA, the district attorney, Walgren, that altered evidence in the courtroom, tampered with evidence outside of the courtroom also...
 
LEMON:  Yes.
 
MURRAY:  ... yet, still, jurors are sitting there and watching a prosecutor alter evidence to make his case, to win, and they would still find a man guilty.
 
LEMON:  Quickly, you go through all of these claims about altering evidence, about coercion and collusion of witnesses and all of that.
 
MURRAY:  Yes.  Sure.
 
LEMON:  The appeals court has said they will not rehear your case, that it's been proven, open-and-shut case.  What are you going to do now?
 
MURRAY:  Well, the appeals case made a mistake.  They have added tubings.
 
There was no two tubings, as Dr. Shafer stated in this case.  (INAUDIBLE) There were three tubings.  I have never given Michael Jackson anything with three tubings.
 
LEMON:  So...
 
MURRAY:  And my next step, if California does not help me to right this wrong, I'm going to the Supreme Court, the law of the land.  I must believe that our judicial system does have integrity somewhere.
 
LEMON:  Stay with me, Dr. Murray, because, in some ways, you knew Michael Jackson better than anyone.  You were the last person to see him alive.
 
When we come right back, we are going to talk about who Michael was behind those closed doors.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE:  I have to stop you for a second, A.J.
 
CNN can now confirm from the - from the L.A. coroner that Michael Jackson is dead.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
(COMMERCIAL BREAK)
 
LEMON:  Michael Jackson was loved by millions of people all around the globe, but no one was a part of his world the way Dr. Conrad Murray was.
 
And he is back with me now exclusively.
 
You were the last person to see Michael Jackson alive.
 
MURRAY:  Correct.
 
LEMON:  Correct?
 
MURRAY:  Mm-hmm.
 
LEMON:  So I want you to take us inside of that room, and I want you to tell us about your relationship with him first.
 
But I want you to hear from some of your patients, what they said about you.
 
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
 
GARY CAUSEY, PATIENT OF CONRAD MURRAY:  He saved my life, and we have grown close over the last 11 years.
 
ANDREW GUEST, PATIENT OF CONRAD MURRAY:  We're all alive today because of Dr. Murray.  He is a great man.
 
DENNIS HIX, PATIENT OF CONRAD MURRAY:  He is the most compassionate man that I have ever met, best doctor I have ever had.
 
(END VIDEO CLIP)
 
LEMON:  What is your reaction to that?  Do you miss practicing medicine?
 
MURRAY:  Of course.  I have never worked a day in my life, because I have enjoyed doing it so much and making the difference in the lives of many.
 
LEMON:  You realize that you're vilified around the world, right?  I'm sure you realize that.
 
MURRAY:  That may be so.
 
But I'm not a villain.  I can tell you - just let me take you back just briefly.
 
Dr. Shafer stated that I was reckless, that I used Propofol at home and that should never be done.  All of the doctors who testified in the trial.  Yet all the while I was being vilified by Dr. Shafer, he was protecting Dr. Robert Markman, a doctor who had used Propofol 500 times or more over five years for general anesthesia for his daughter for external gentilia pain.  And I was using Propofol for about sixty days for just (INAUDIBLE).  He defended that doctor as if there was nothing wrong with him.
 
LEMON: And you talk about that again, in Dr. Conrad Murray –
 
MURRAY: Absolutely.  All the details are sure.
 
LEMON: OK, so let’s talk about Michael since we have you here. I want to hear about this person you call your friend.  You say you knew him better than anyone towards the end of his life - than anyone, correct?
 
MURRAY: Yes.
 
LEMON: Did he share secrets with you?
 
MURRAY: Of course.  The most hidden treasure trove of his life is with me.  But have I protected Michael up until now.
 
LEMON: Up until now?
 
MURRAY: Of course.  Of course.  I've said nothing that has been inflammatory about my friend.  I protected Michael.  You see, when I had - the officials, and they pointed to Michael, the guy who could not pay me for months after taking care of him, and it’s sad that he could not pay for the Popsicle his daughters were using, the toilet paper that they were using to wipe their private areas, that he was penniless, I was shocked.  It was that time when Michael came to me trembling and trying to get me away from the A.G. official who was Randy Phillips.
 
I was shocked.  I should have just picked my bottles up and leave had I been looking for money.  But there wasn't money.  It was about the love of Michael.
 
I have suffered a lot.  There is no doubt about it.  But I don't hate Michael.  Michael did not do me wrong.  He did not want this to happen to me.  Whatever happened to Michael when I was not there is probably his own misjudgment.  And I believe that that clearly happened because he was illogical, he was irrational, and he was in the withdrawal state from Demerol that Dr. (INAUDIBLE) Klein was feeding him.
 
LEMON: You said that he gave himself the drugs. You believe he gave himself the final dose?
 
MURRAY: The premises cannot be breached. It was not breached. There was no one else in the house, in the upper chambers but Michael and myself.  I was away from him.  The phone records shows that.
 
LEMON: But again I ask, should you have been with him?
 
MURRAY: No.  That's a good question.  Because I gave Michael Jackson 25 milligrams of Propofol over three to five minutes.  All of the doctors, seven doctors in the test trial, assured there could be no Propofol effects after 10, maximum 15 minutes by Dr. Rogers, which is what I told police.  If I give Michael Jackson between 10:40 and 10:50, 25 milligrams of Propofol, the effect of the drug would be gone by 11:00.
 
LEMON: OK.
 
MURRAY: If I monitor him, (INAUDIBLE) by 11:20 –
 
LEMON: You believe, according to medical standards, that you were reasonable with that.
 
MURRAY: Absolutely.
 
LEMON: So you said you haven't shared any secrets of Michael's until now.  Do you plan to?  Is there something you want to tell us?
 
MURRAY: I would not share with you any hidden secrets of Michael.  Not at this time.  We don’t have that in summary.
 
LEMON: But how long you going to be silent?
 
MURRAY: How long am I going to be silent?  As long as I wish to.  I really –
 
LEMON: One day will you tell?
 
MURRAY: I can't answer the question, to be totally honest.  And I don't know.  I still protect Michael.
 
LEMON: What is your life like now?  Everywhere you go, today you went somewhere, and I saw a picture of you, and they had a picture of you drinking, getting milk, and they said oh, that's what Michael Jackson called Propofol, milk.  And that must be some sort of, you know, there is a message that you're sending.
 
MURRAY: Tabloids will twist anything. You know, milk.  They have called Michael all kinds of names.  I have  not.  My life is certainly a struggle.  I'm doing the best I can to put it back on track –
 
LEMON: You get depressed?
 
MURRAY: Me?  No.
 
LEMON: How do you take care of yourself?
 
MURRAY: Family and friends, the goodness of my family and friends.
 
LEMON: The kindness of family and friends.
 
MURRAY: Kindness, yes. Exactly.
 
LEMON: So you have no job. I know you're working for the Trinidad Medical –
 
MURRAY: I am not working for Trinidad medical government.  I have volunteered to bring cardiac surgery for the pediatric children more available.  I have helped with their program, which took about seven weeks.
 
LEMON: So you have no income?
 
MURRAY: None.
 
LEMON: None at all?
 
MURRAY: None.
 
LEMON: So I have to ask you this.  Michael Jackson’s children.
 
MURRAY: Yes.
 
LEMON: Some of them are doing okay.  Some of them are suffering horribly.  His girl tried to commit suicide according to reports.  What do you say?  They were there that night or that afternoon watching their father, - if not dying, already dead.
 
MURRAY: Yes.
 
LEMON: What do you say to them?
 
MURRAY: Oh, my gosh.  The loss is monumental.  I grieve for Michael every day.  And I grieve for those children.  I was the only person that Michael brought to his attention of all his families and friends who were still hugging his children.  They would come into my arms every day.  That warms his heart.  His father had never done that. His mother and sisters were never embracing the children.
 
I was at the hospital the day that Michael passed away.  And they did not put an arm around the children.  The only time I saw an arm around Paris is when she cried on stage, and I saw her aunt place her (INAUDIBLE) hands over her mouth (ph).  Was she trying to shut her up or was she really trying to comfort her?  I don't know.
 
But I love those children.  And you know what?  Maybe there will be a day when they would like to speak with me.  And I am quite open.  I have nothing to hide.
 
LEMON: Do you have anything to say to his family, to his mother?
 
MURRAY: Michael loved his mother of the only other relatives that he had.  Prior to Michael’s death, he announced to me he had four family members besides himself - Paris, Michael, and Prince Michael, Blanket and Dr.  Conrad.  That was his family.  Everyone else was totally absolved from his life.
 
He used his mother only because she may be the only chance of maybe having some way to pacify things between the differences in the family.  But not - but he did not have a relationship with any members.
 
LEMON: And yet you're the only one people hold responsible for his death, and you went to prison.
 
MURRAY: You know, I have been hurt.  There is no doubt about it.  But I carry no anger.  I would not allow them to do that to me.  I would like to hopefully one day use my testimony so that it can prevent others who have undergone injustice; innocent men go to prison all the time.  Maybe they should wear one of the shoes.
 
Now let me say something about the fans, for example.  There are all kinds of fans.  There are those who are diehards and have their reasons, and there are many who have.  I am Michael's fan.
 
LEMON: Right.
 
MURRAY: But regardless –
 
LEMON: Okay. Do you think you deserve a second chance?  Anew beginning?  You would like to practice medicine again.
 
MURRAY: Absolutely.
 
LEMON: Sometime second chances, though, are new beginnings.  You can't go back and do what you did before.  Maybe you'll have to do something else.
 
MURRAY: I will serve humanity.
 
LEMON: Thank you, Dr. Conrad Murray.  Appreciate you.  Best of luck.
 
MURRAY: You’re welcome.
 
END
 
Was TS correct in See you wednesday some will say no but I do not know this is almost to good to be a coincidence to me.
Murray: "I COULD NOT HELP BUT TO WEAR HIS SHOE." WHAT? Going to the supreme court sounds like this will be going on for awhile and I cannot help but wonder being Murray was the last person to see him alive mmhmm,has to say about what secrets MJ had. Sounds to me if anyone is waiting for the end of this do not look for it anytime soon. Seems like this show is just getting started but maybe soon the truth will be revealed. But this sounds just like something michael cared so much about "INJUSTICE". We have a corrupt system and he is trying to show us that.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 12:37:56 PM
^^^ Are you saying TS is Murray?

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 01:01:57 PM
I am not saying he is,for sure but look if you were convicted of someones murder and felt you were innocent would the right time to bring up your your arguments on the day the victim died? You would think wow the world would be so pissed off,but no he comes out tells his side with confidence. Brings up what he felt was totally wrong with the case. Uses so many of Michaels words when he speaks of injustice, loving children,Mjs family. Mj always said children needed hugs.Conrad may be an actor but he is Definitely playing in Michaels shoes.The world labeled MJ a child molester without proof and Conrad a murderer without real proof. He is so confident that he knows thing and says he is protecting MJ even after death. Lets just wait and see what comes next. I been saying conrad and his shoes got me thinking alot,then he mentions Mjs shoes. :affraid:. Seriously though the coicidences never end with this "HOAX".

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 01:20:28 PM
I agree with much of your post Unbreakable1, and if Murray is acting 'in Michael's shoes' then the anniversary of his 'death' would be a perfectly fitting day to do such an interview!  But please, let's leave TS out of this.  YOU are more prophetic with your mention of shoes in the TMZ thread (and then them coming up in Murray's interview) than TS is with his Wednesday stuff!

(Actually let's leave TS here, and continue with the Murray discussions over on the other, more relevant, thread!)

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 26, 2014, 01:44:36 PM
Gotcha thank you for the nice comments,was only mentioning the Wednesday thing because it was part of this thread. But i said from the beginning that I did say, is it a lie. But the coincidence is Murray had not been on television for a while.

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 27, 2014, 12:13:56 AM
very interesting choice of words. it appears that in the 5 YEARS of his death, we haven't received the truth yet continuous INJUSTICE.  i will have to wait and see it through. many corrupted people in the media and major companies.  I feel good knowing where ever MJ is, he is in a better place that does not place him in iNJUSTICE. MJ to be in constant pain i can imagine he would be, look back to the performance where the bridge he was standing on fell right down to the ground, that has to leave a permeant mark on his body.
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 28, 2014, 01:47:59 AM
Hello Family, it's been a while since I have posted here, I hope everyone is happy and healthy!
 
For me when TS redirected to "see you next Wednesday",  and the only person we saw was Conrad Murray yesterday, it led me to Believe once again, that TS IS Conrad Murray.
 
Both TS & CM are spiritual/religious , both lost wives, children, their business, house, Plus Conrad came right out and said "I am The Source" =TS , on his way to court in a clip we have seen!

So, was this TS giving us his own BAM by revealing  that he is actually Conrad Murray?? Or is this just another "coincidence"?  :icon_e_confused: Something to think about...

Anyway, as always I send you many Blessings and Much LOVE!
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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 28, 2014, 02:54:44 AM
Nah he's not Conrad..

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Re: See you next Wednesday?

  • on: June 28, 2014, 07:22:52 AM
Hello Family, it's been a while since I have posted here, I hope everyone is happy and healthy!
 
For me when TS redirected to "see you next Wednesday",  and the only person we saw was Conrad Murray yesterday, it led me to Believe once again, that TS IS Conrad Murray.
 
Both TS & CM are spiritual/religious , both lost wives, children, their business, house, Plus Conrad came right out and said "I am The Source" =TS , on his way to court in a clip we have seen!

So, was this TS giving us his own BAM by revealing  that he is actually Conrad Murray?? Or is this just another "coincidence"?  :icon_e_confused: Something to think about...

Anyway, as always I send you many Blessings and Much LOVE!
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With all this you are assuming TS knows stuff ... IMO he doesn't.  He said as much. He might think he gets stuff from God or Satan but really he has bright ideas and guesses, just like the rest of us.  IMO he noticed that 25th June fell on a Wednesday and not content to simply say "hey guys do you remember the see you next Wednesday bits in Thriller and Black or White, well what d'ya know, next Wednesday is 25th June. Neat eh?" No, after everything that's happened he continues with his trademark redirects.

Now Conrad Murray ... HE knows stuff!