I downloaded 1080p. version and found new weird things

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Offline CoffeBean

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I downloaded 1080p. version and found new weird things

  • on: December 30, 2009, 10:25:16 AM
Ok, let's start.
-Wanna Be Stratting Something
1)In the back vocals shirts (sorry, I don't know how is that in english) i see something like: '50 can...', 'Lax'.

2)In the back dancer runs with a black flag. Before the 'death'? Weird... In the next frame other dancer with a white flag. :?

-Jam
1)When song Jam starts, in the back singers sing, but we can't hear that.
-They Don't Really Care About Us
1)In the back volals t-shirt is 5. I don't know what it means...

-After Thriller...
1)Sign in the chair 'Alif Sankey's Chair' (who is it?)

2)In the table something like 'We have... days....'


I can make the pictures, if we want.
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yeh do the pics please.. :)  :shock:
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Alif Sankey - http://http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0762852/

She was a dancer in Moonwalker.
She was the Live Show Associate Producer for TII.
Also a dancer for MJ at the 1996 Brit Awards.
A dancer at MTV 10th anniversary with Michael.
She was also due to appear as a dancer on the TII tour as well as being Associate Producer/Performer for TII tour.
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oooh I could download it too a HD version! maybe we can compare stuff?? :)
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the first picture on the  left the "caution tape"
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Quote from: "CoffeBean"
Ok, let's start.
-Wanna Be Stratting Something
1)In the back vocals shirts (sorry, I don't know how is that in english) i see something like: '50 can...', 'Lax'.


OH my...I think I found something... ...

Do you guys remember the airport was closed for several hours the day MJ "died"?
Well... LAX is:

Los Angeles International Airport (IATA: LAX, ICAO: KLAX, FAA LID: LAX) is the primary airport serving Los Angeles, California, United States. It is often referred to by its airport code LAX, with the letters usually pronounced individually. LAX is located in southwestern Los Angeles in the neighborhood of Westchester, 16 mi (26 km) from the downtown core.

With 61,895,548 passengers[2] in 2007, LAX is the fifth busiest airport in the world and is served by direct flights to North America, Latin America, Europe, Asia, Oceania, and The Middle East. The airport is a major hub for United Airlines and a focus city for American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and Southwest Airlines.
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Ok, let's start.
-Wanna Be Stratting Something
1)In the back vocals shirts (sorry, I don't know how is that in english) i see something like: '50 can...', 'Lax'.


OH my...I think I found something... ...

Do you guys remember the airport was closed for several hours the day MJ "died"?
Well... LAX is:

Los Angeles International Airport (IATA: LAX, ICAO: KLAX, FAA LID: LAX) is the primary airport serving Los Angeles, California, United States. It is often referred to by its airport code LAX, with the letters usually pronounced individually. LAX is located in southwestern Los Angeles in the neighborhood of Westchester, 16 mi (26 km) from the downtown core.

With 61,895,548 passengers[2] in 2007, LAX is the fifth busiest airport in the world and is served by direct flights to North America, Latin America, Europe, Asia, Oceania, and The Middle East. The airport is a major hub for United Airlines and a focus city for American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and Southwest Airlines.



I Can't remember i can remember peolple says that it was closed down but the only information what i can find is that there was some long period maintanance at a few places of the airport that were close down that day but that maintanance period was there long before and long after 25th june you can find these information at the official site of the LAX you can see what was closed  down on witch hours and why so there has never been  complete runway/gate/department hall lockdown
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yes, definitely recognized the LAX.

but the flags? hmmmmmmmmm... :shock:

thank you for the pictures, keep us updated.
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Quote from: "CoffeBean"
Ok, let's start.
-Wanna Be Stratting Something
1)In the back vocals shirts (sorry, I don't know how is that in english) i see something like: '50 can...', 'Lax'.

2)In the back dancer runs with a black flag. Before the 'death'? Weird... In the next frame other dancer with a white flag. :?

-Jam
1)When song Jam starts, in the back singers sing, but we can't hear that.
-They Don't Really Care About Us
1)In the back volals t-shirt is 5. I don't know what it means...

-After Thriller...
1)Sign in the chair 'Alif Sankey's Chair' (who is it?)

2)In the table something like 'We have... days....'


I can make the pictures, if we want.

On the picture that says "We have...days..." I think I make out the number 12 in between "We have" and "days." We have 12 days?

Is there a way to figure out what day that footage (from that section of the movie) was shot? Could someone post a link of that clip to Kenny Ortega (or someone) and ask if they remember when they shot it. Maybe they shot it 12 days before he died? Or maybe it means 12 days until they were going to go to London? Idk
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it looks more like 18...

"we have 18 days"
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hmm is this stuff you couldn't see in the other version? Thank you for taking the time to post! I think the guys were just wearing those shirts. I dunno if they necessarily hold any importance (JMHO.. not tryin to take away from anyone else's ideas). as for the flags.. mabe they were using different colors for different parts? and looks like a countdown to me.. i wonder if the 18 days was until the first concert or until they left for London.  :?:
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it looks more like 18...

"we have 18 days"

now that you mention it, it does look kinda like 18. It's too blurry though :(

Does anyone know what part of the film this is from? When I get the bluray on the 26th, I'll try to find it and see if it's clearer :D
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Ok, let's start.
-Wanna Be Stratting Something
1)In the back vocals shirts (sorry, I don't know how is that in english) i see something like: '50 can...', 'Lax'.


OH my...I think I found something... ...

Do you guys remember the airport was closed for several hours the day MJ "died"?
Well... LAX is:

Los Angeles International Airport (IATA: LAX, ICAO: KLAX, FAA LID: LAX) is the primary airport serving Los Angeles, California, United States. It is often referred to by its airport code LAX, with the letters usually pronounced individually. LAX is located in southwestern Los Angeles in the neighborhood of Westchester, 16 mi (26 km) from the downtown core.

With 61,895,548 passengers[2] in 2007, LAX is the fifth busiest airport in the world and is served by direct flights to North America, Latin America, Europe, Asia, Oceania, and The Middle East. The airport is a major hub for United Airlines and a focus city for American Airlines, Alaska Airlines, Delta Air Lines, and Southwest Airlines.

Hmmm... Interesting  :D .You make me think of something.
There's a french member here, who post a comment on the french forum part, and told us that she spoke with someone,that she didn't know, who didn't know her, neither her belief in the hoax or even that she was a fan. They were just chatting about whatever. The brother in law of this guy works at the ambassy of France in LA, and he told him that Michael's coffin was empty at the Staples Center. This guy thought it was weird.
The question is : why the ambassy of FRANCE would know about that? Why would they be interested in Michael Jackson's coffin?  :? It may mean something ... Could it be because Michael was helped and fly over France on June 25th ?  :?  Don't know what to make of it...

For those who understand french, here is her original post, scroll down and look for the post of "chritina"
http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=48&start=25
We recommended the member to make a thread about that and in english. I hope she will :)
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the whole flag thing with Wanna Be Startin Somethin was also done during the Dangerous tour.
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On the picture that says "We have...days..." I think I make out the number 12 in between "We have" and "days." We have 12 days?

Is there a way to figure out what day that footage (from that section of the movie) was shot? Could someone post a link of that clip to Kenny Ortega (or someone) and ask if they remember when they shot it. Maybe they shot it 12 days before he died? Or maybe it means 12 days until they were going to go to London? Idk


Any footage from the Staples Center in the movie was recorded from June 22 through June 25, 2009
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who post a comment on the french forum part, and told us that she spoke with someone,that she didn't know, who didn't know her, neither her belief in the hoax or even that she was a fan. They were just chatting about whatever. The brother in law of this guy works at the ambassy of France in LA, and he told him that Michael's coffin was empty at the Staples Center. This guy thought it was weird.

I'm not the person wich did the post but I'm french if you want I can give you the exact translation ?I'm putting into quote the translated post,okay ?

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"I just wanted to tell you about a conversation that I had on New's Year at my house yesterday .
We were chatting ( with Michael's Jackson music in the background)
When my best friend's cousin whom I met for the first time told me :
'That's so bad he passed away, it was such a great artist...but there is something weird : my brother in law wich is working at/in the Embassy of France in LA told me there weren't any body/corpse in the coffin at Staples Center .'
I asked him where was he(if he wasn't in the coffin)
and he just told me :'Believe me, I know what I'm talking about, he is somewhere else.'
That's weird , What does that mean ?
My reaction was of course :    :!:   :!:  then  :D  :D

After that I told him that I believed that Michael was still alive and I explained him everything that I knew about it
So after that of course he saw this conversation with his in-law under a new light.
But of course , that alone , doesn't prove anything
But the fact that he told me about this all of sudden,without even knowing that I was a fan of Michael and that all of us believed that Michael was still alive .
Without couting on the fact  it looked like he was sincere(he wasn't seeking attention)had left me wondering.

Do you want the following of her post ? She's talking about how people managed to keep the birth of the daughter of an actor(Mitterand) hidden from public eyes during 20 years,until that actor passed away.
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I did download the 1080p version of TII and I found when MJ is showing the dancers the steps during the shooting of the green screen, you see the number 7 on the floor. Also, during Smooth Criminal you see the sign "Hotel Chicago" and MJ does mention Dr. Murray's name.  I don't remember this in the movie. I will look at the movie online.
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COFFEEBEAN, thanks for starting this thread.  You always get on different clues and draw our attention to them.  Please do keep us updated.

With the backup singers, I noticed the YELLOW TAPES with the word CAUTION - this type of yellow tape is the one used for crime scenes to close down areas, isn't it?

I'm trying to find the connection and make some sense of it.And if the word LAX was on the shirt, maybe IMO they are trying to send the message that LAX was closed down-yellow taped, to help Michael escape via LAX
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