Inside the helicopter

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Offline the_gloved_one

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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 11:08:32 AM
I’ve just watched the footage of the body being transferred from the heli to the waiting coroner van. The body is placed onto the waiting gurney still within its cradle (sorry I don't know the technical term). The body is then placed in the van and the doors are about to be closed. It seems that one of the coroner staff almost forgets to give back the cradle to the heli staff. The body is then lifted out of the cradle and seems to be dumped to one side. They way these guys treat the body seems disrespectful.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 11:11:25 AM
More than Disrespectful :!:
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 01:21:34 PM
Hi there

This is the first time I am posting something. I have been following you guys since August and have to say you did a great job! Whenever I felt down and like no one understands me or thinks I'm weird because I believe in the hoax, I come here and feel better when I read thru the investigations or when I see that I am not the only one who feels so empty since Michael "died" this past June.

If it was posted before then sorry!

Now I found this on youtube concerning the Helicopter transport from the Hospital to the Coroners buildung. Its Rescue 5.  :?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TuKB0hRiE5g

Then there is also a video of the inside of the Helicopter. At the very end (only three seconds) you can get a glimpse of the inside where we think we see a secod person on a strecher and you can see that there are no seats or anything there so it must have been a second stretcher/person! Go to 02:13  8-)  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AP-F9UQd27Q&NR=1

What are your thoughts?
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:32:04 PM
i dont really see anything but in the 2nd video...what is that thing they are caring to the helicopter...that cant no way be a body on that streture if thats what it is because he was caring by himself at the very begginging...im confused
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:54:59 PM
I Have got a theory, It is about magic and illusion "Smoke And Mirrors"

Mike arrives "Dead" at the hospital, fire alarm goes off, while the hospital is evacuated he makes off to a waiting car, A dummy is put inplace of him, which is then taken upto the roof and put onto the helicopter. Meanwhile Mike is on his way to the coroners office, to make sure the plans are working to plan, He needs to be there incase something goes wrong and he can play dead for "Press" photographers. He waits for the helicopter to arrive and they switch the stretchers over, just to cause more confusion and stands talking to the security guard at the coroners office, van pulls up, he jumps in, and waits for the guard to open the door and jump out.
So That when he comes back, he can say to the press "THAT WAS ME WHO JUMPED OUT OF THE VAN." Remember Michael was learning magic, and he has learnt off the best, How does Copperfield make himself dissappear and reappear... It's all smoke and mirrors.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 02:57:54 PM
i heard that the video was fake, they were trying to prove a point on how easy it is for rumors to spread via internet
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 03:25:48 PM
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If the bag isn't made of that plastic material but just an white tissue, it's no danger of suffocation.

Hmm yeah, make sense too!  :mrgreen:  But, I thought it's still depends on how long the flight is? If the flight is long, then there's still a tiny little chance of suffocation right? Hmmm... :?

Tiny little holes... same thing... you get the idea...
 :lol: ...  Nah I dont think so... it would be breatheable.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 03:52:45 PM
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If the bag isn't made of that plastic material but just an white tissue, it's no danger of suffocation.

Hmm yeah, make sense too!  :mrgreen:  But, I thought it's still depends on how long the flight is? If the flight is long, then there's still a tiny little chance of suffocation right? Hmmm... :?

Tiny little holes... same thing... you get the idea...
 :lol: ...  Nah I dont think so... it would be breatheable.

Hehe yeah, tiny little holes again!  :lol:
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 02, 2010, 08:58:51 PM
What is the normal practice in L.A to transport Bodies from Hospitals to coroner? I thought it would have been by private ambulance not helicopter?
Didn't somebody find proof that that helicopter didn't fly on 25th June at all?
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 03, 2010, 08:54:24 AM
WOW ! What a good find !!!  :mrgreen: no suffocation in this white tissue for sure !!!! On this video, when they close the doors of helicopter, it's soooooo moving inside, what's going on? (look at 1.25)
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 03, 2010, 09:50:11 AM
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I Have got a theory, It is about magic and illusion "Smoke And Mirrors"

Mike arrives "Dead" at the hospital, fire alarm goes off, while the hospital is evacuated he makes off to a waiting car, A dummy is put inplace of him, which is then taken upto the roof and put onto the helicopter. Meanwhile Mike is on his way to the coroners office, to make sure the plans are working to plan, He needs to be there incase something goes wrong and he can play dead for "Press" photographers. He waits for the helicopter to arrive and they switch the stretchers over, just to cause more confusion and stands talking to the security guard at the coroners office, van pulls up, he jumps in, and waits for the guard to open the door and jump out.
So That when he comes back, he can say to the press "THAT WAS ME WHO JUMPED OUT OF THE VAN." Remember Michael was learning magic, and he has learnt off the best, How does Copperfield make himself dissappear and reappear... It's all smoke and mirrors.
Makes me think of the end of the 1992 Bucharest concert when a crew is preparing Michael for leaving by "flying" off dressed in a spacesuit.  At one point, it is clear to me that a stunt double switches places with him to do the actual flying, but probably few, if any, of the audience noticed.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 03, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Angel, Good point, I watched that concert recently, i too thought he hid and stunt guy flew off stage, what would the insurance cost of it going wrong and Mike being injured???
Why are people saying he would have suffocated in the cloth or bag, there is one simple way he would've been able to breathe... A straw in his mouth through the cloth but unseen.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 03, 2010, 12:09:46 PM
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Angel, Good point, I watched that concert recently, i too thought he hid and stunt guy flew off stage, what would the insurance cost of it going wrong and Mike being injured???
Why are people saying he would have suffocated in the cloth or bag, there is one simple way he would've been able to breathe... A straw in his mouth through the cloth but unseen.
True.  I think with all his years of experience, these things are just a way of life to him, it would be child's play, not difficult at all for Mike to pull this off.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 19, 2010, 05:59:52 PM
Now this is just a thought, but it could just be possible that whether there is 2 bodies are not, it maybe the wrong helicopter,period!! the bodies inside could of been accident victims or old people ect.... we have no solid proof that this was supposed to be mj in that helicopter only news report. So everyone on that day would of expected mj's body going to hospital via this method so would of been watching, hence why no one appears to have seen him at all that day..  i dont believe he was on that heli or anywhere near ucla jmo   8-)
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 19, 2010, 06:06:01 PM
this finding is the one thing that keeps my questioning and not accepting death, i just dont understand? why two bodies, why on this day at this time? what is the destination of the other trolley?
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 19, 2010, 08:44:23 PM
Can you explain where you heard that a helicopter landed at Neverland that day?  Do you have a video or someone giving a description (i.e., color of copter, time of day, pilot description, etc)?  Thanks.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 01:26:30 AM
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Can you explain where you heard that a helicopter landed at Neverland that day?  Do you have a video or someone giving a description (i.e., color of copter, time of day, pilot description, etc)?  Thanks.
THANK YOU FOR ASKNIG THAT i have always questioned wether ppl made that up or there were actual, reliable news out there reporting the heli landing at neverland. I know his family went to Neverland after the death but why? I thought MJ has not gone there in years..i though MJ actually sold his neverland home to get out of debt? Who knows that is one thing that has been bugging me as well :?
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 01:35:14 AM
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Can you explain where you heard that a helicopter landed at Neverland that day?  Do you have a video or someone giving a description (i.e., color of copter, time of day, pilot description, etc)?  Thanks.
THANK YOU FOR ASKNIG THAT i have always questioned wether ppl made that up or there were actual, reliable news out there reporting the heli landing at neverland. I know his family went to Neverland after the death but why? I thought MJ has not gone there in years..i though MJ actually sold his neverland home to get out of debt? Who knows that is one thing that has been bugging me as well :?

Helicopters at neverland in JULY
http://www.keyt.com/home/ticker/50176362.html
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 05:41:01 AM
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but WHYYY!!! why 2 'bodies'??

Maybe because there was another body of another UCLA patiant (not related to MJ) who needed to be delivered to the same coroners office. So they thought why not. Save some time for another body too.

That's why the probably used helicopter: the same time (away of traffic jam) for better autopsy.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 05:43:31 AM
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but WHYYY!!! why 2 'bodies'??

Maybe because there was another body of another UCLA patiant (not related to MJ) who needed to be delivered to the same coroners office. So they thought why not. Save some time for another body too.

That's why the probably used helicopter: the same time (away of traffic jam) for better autopsy.


And btw, the second body could be already in helicopter before it came to UCLA
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 05:49:41 AM
I see nothing odd in two bodies. MJ probably wasnt the one who needed helicopter that day. Legally there's no order not to transport dead MJ with dead someone.
Sorry, guys.  :(
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 12:32:35 PM
I don't know if it was posted but You gotta watch this :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xpAiGoVgTAc

at 4.23  don't pay attention to the policeman watch the body you can see the body moving again !
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 12:43:26 PM
hmm, the first vid showed folks that said they transported MJ in the heli depicted in the vid. However according the comments it was not the same heli.

The 2nd vid link you provided showed rescue 5 transporting an injured child to the childrens hosp.
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 01:56:30 PM
Could this be that the body with straps was Michael's (IF and i repeat if) and the flat one was fake? The fake one came out and Michael's body was taken to Neverland to bury him there? As there have been speculations that he could also have been buried at Neverland since there were two funerals. God that broke my heart to just write that.  :(
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Re: Inside the helicopter

  • on: January 20, 2010, 02:25:04 PM
the body with the black straps we accept as MJ even though we only have the new readers opinion on it, the second body was at the side, that was the one moved on the coroners van, we dont know who that was either or whether just a surf board.

it seems a very expensive way to move dead people and not very enviromental.

so mike might of exited another way?
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