HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

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HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:34:49 PM
Well I threw in the towel, I no longer believe.
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.
Let me explain why:
I think he is dead, a father can not do without her children for so long,
and no paparazi has photos of his children with him.
It's too long, I am a father myself and just get away a week of my family driving me mad.
I thought we would hear him talk about Christmas or New Year's Day,
he would come out of anonymity because of the love for his children, but this is not the case,
I sincerely hope even lost with all that we could say here!
I closed the book, I can only hope is to hear his last album even incomplete
and hear 100 new songs that he have written.

I will continue to follow the topics here intelligent and reasonable,
but I think even more with Dave Dave or blonde ... enough is enough!

Peace and love you all .. I'm really sad to start the year this way but for me it's obvious ...
MJ is gone and it shines in the sky like a star...and his message of love will stay alive has ever.

Goodbye Michael, and all of you who still believe, pay attention to the lies of internet and media ...
that can be manipulated and you believe things!

PS: If ever I am wrong I would have a big doubt about the love of a father to his children.
Please do not judge me, I hoped his return but my logic say no it's over ... R.I.P M.J i love you!
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:37:11 PM
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.

Have you ever read "Dancing the Dream" by Michael Jackson???

If you have, you will know why these words you wrote jumped out at me.

Michael said those exact words.  Read the book.
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:40:25 PM
Did you ever think that maybe Michael is meeting his kids without the paparazzi's? How do you know he isnt seeing kids just because you dont have evidence of it? There's a big possibility the kids have travelled to the house he is staying at (perhaps even the Encino family house) and that they see him on a regular basis. Just because you dont see Michael Jackson + three children together walking on the streets of LA with paparazzis surrounding them it dosnt mean they dont have any contact with each other. There's a thing called privacy and thats what they are doing, they are meeting up in privacy.
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:41:33 PM
ooh.. That is not cool.. :(
But you know, maybe Michael is with his kids. But we can't see it, because he is in disguise or just nobody CAN see him. I think he was with his kids with Christmas. And Yeah I think he is not always with them right now, But I am sure he thought very good about this and maybe he does this even for his children. Who knows.
But if you think he is really dead, then OK.. :(
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:44:59 PM
@michangelo..

Well have a save retirement.. I'm glad you are still here looking around... Close your computer for awhile and have some fun with our kids... No disrespect of your opinion at all.... Take care of yourself and remember to look around in here once awhile..

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:45:19 PM
Ich dachte, eine Menge wegeI thought a lot because of the children....
Still a lot speaks against death MJs ...... I still believe he lives.
First I might against proof!

Everything good for you and your family (I understand you) all the best to you :!:
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:47:30 PM
I actually don't think he's away from his children!
Were his children supposed to be in London with him for all 50 shows? I don't know about that.

All the best for you! Good, if it's easier for you that way and I'm sure, you'll realize, if he comes back ;-)
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 04:48:14 PM
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
Did you ever think that maybe Michael is meeting his kids without the paparazzi's? How do you know he isnt seeing kids just because you dont have evidence of it? There's a big possibility the kids have travelled to the house he is staying at (perhaps even the Encino family house) and that they see him on a regular basis. Just because you dont see Michael Jackson + three children together walking on the streets of LA with paparazzis surrounding them it dosnt mean they dont have any contact with each other. There's a thing called privacy and thats what they are doing, they are meeting up in privacy.

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:00:19 PM
I understand your reaction but who told you that he is not seeing them from time to time ?  Michael has been able to fool the world (except we the believers) he can now play with the paparazzi like they used to play with him. Things have been reversed now.
Even, we must take into account the fact that if he did fake his death it's for a very important reason maybe including the safety of his children, he then had to make this sacrifice (if he finally cannot see his children). Sometimes in life you are confronted to extreme situations, you have no choice than take the right decision. I think that Michael had to do it. I think we should not give up so quick, Michael deserves that we look for the truth and we have now many evidences. I will personnally never give up and will always keep a place for him in my heart til I die.
Maybe you will change your mind, your deep inside is telling you he's still alive, listen to your heart.

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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:07:27 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.

Have you ever read "Dancing the Dream" by Michael Jackson???

If you have, you will know why these words you wrote jumped out at me.

Michael said those exact words.  Read the book.

WOW! Honestly I never heard him write a poem that I am really disturbed I confess,
 I wrote the same thing without knowing I swear on my son's head! :shock:
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:24:05 PM
We didn't know you just had been gone from your family.. So doesn't the media either. Michael would live as a normal person, without attracting any attention.

Ofcourse would Michael never meet his children surrounded with paparazzies, or seen in the street.

If Michael fake his death, he have it all planned. How to meet children, how to get food, meet family.. Give clues to believers ^^

I'm sure Michael is staying at one of his family members house, with the children.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:32:13 PM
with all the clues that we have uncovered..the one thing that stands out,,that really convinced me that michael is alive is one very simple thing.  Remember in the very beginning when Michael first "died".  I forget if it was Joe Jackson or Katherine, but one of them said that the kids would go to regular school like regular kids.  I remember thinking..no freaking way in hell would Michael ever allow the kids to go to school..and guess what???all of a sudden Katherine changed her mind and they continued home schooling.  That is the single piece of evidence that convinced me that Michael is alive.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:33:41 PM
I believe that Michael's children are with him no matter what, I know he's alive I know and feel it in my bones and no way he can do without his children so his children are with him. But please don't throw in the towel because you had some great posts about the Illuminati theory, keep the faith!
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Re: HOAX! nah .. it's over, let me explain why?

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:41:35 PM
Quote from: "michangelo"
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
My head told me that he died even though my heart said no.

Have you ever read "Dancing the Dream" by Michael Jackson???

If you have, you will know why these words you wrote jumped out at me.

Michael said those exact words.  Read the book.

WOW! Honestly I never heard him write a poem that I am really disturbed I confess,
 I wrote the same thing without knowing I swear on my son's head! :shock:

Michael is hanting you LOL... He is in your head you should rethink you thoughts LMAO.. :lol:
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:48:09 PM
This whole thing is not clear at all, nobody can be 100% sure he is alive :(
Nobody of us knows it exactly.

Faked death, you think when MJ said at the O2 "See you in July", he already planned his own death? But this is just an example, there is more thing like that.

So i am 50%/50% with the hoax...
it is so hard after these months, this is too much, i really hope the truth will prevail very soon...

And i agree with michangelo.

But i still believe.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:48:54 PM
Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
To be honest, i find your post quite disrespectful, and clearly show you are not a true Michael Jackson fan, because if you were, you would know of the disguises he can pull off, he is probably with his children now, and even so, you have seen technology these days? easy to access via skype and webcam, so dont come on here with crap like that, go and post it in the section for those who think he may be dead because thats what that section is for. im disgusted. You don't know Michael, because if you did you would understand how highly intelligent he is , and how intelligent his children are. phhttt

I listen to Michael Jackson from the album OFF THE WALL, I love him like a brother!
Who are you to judge my heart?
I have all his albums, while the 12 inches he did, my only regret is not being a native English speaker to understand everything he wrote. (I'm french).
People like you who judge does not even deserve one attention.
To be a true fan must believe in 100 years?
No, I think it's you that lacks love to write about me and that's disrespectful! :?
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:51:09 PM
Please.. dudes.. you are depressing me.

I love Michael. I dont want to be on this Earth if he is not.

Ive just spent the last 48 hours in bed.  I didnt eat and i didnt go out.

I am depressed over all of this.  I just want closure.

I wish to know what has happened to Michael.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 05:59:23 PM
Quote from: "TruthBeTold"
To be honest, i find your post quite disrespectful, and clearly show you are not a true Michael Jackson fan, because if you were, you would know of the disguises he can pull off, he is probably with his children now, and even so, you have seen technology these days? easy to access via skype and webcam, so dont come on here with crap like that, go and post it in the section for those who think he may be dead because thats what that section is for. im disgusted. You don't know Michael, because if you did you would understand how highly intelligent he is , and how intelligent his children are. phhttt

to be honest?? If someone here has a change of heart that is their full right.To then call them "not a true fan" is more disrespectful than the original poster's post.To then say you're disgusted and that the OP is coming on here with "crap" is more disgusting then what the OP is saying. To then say"you don't know Michael because then you would understand how highly intelligent he is" shows that you lack some yourself imo
Don't get all fired up when someone says goodbye for the reasons they believe or no longer believe ...surely MJ himself advocated that all are entitled to their own opinions...
Peace
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 06:07:11 PM
Hello Michangelo,
Firstly happy 2010 to you and your family.
I would like to tell you how much I understand your reaction is natural.
But think of it this way:
Who set out to do what Michael did, to form their "death", knowing that he would have a much more restrained than it had before.
He knew that would be trapping for the world.
Do you really believe that Michael is meeting with the children may appear out of nowhere for the paparazzi?
The life Michael ran it, and it would be easier now that he.
If he has a plan a proposal, it will follow her to the end!
Now more than ever he will have to be very touching, until the right moment.
As it was a shock to the world this "death" sudden, his reappearance is further improved.
Will trigger all kinds of feelings of anger, frustration, excitement, questions, etc. ...
Now Michael Jackson is leaving clues, those fans really have discovered, and those who are skeptical, which are equal to these are Thomas think he is among us, it was in fact, they will be shocked, and these are Michangelo that will charge you, offend you, and why not say crucify him?
What we have to do is take our day to day, living our lives, we just know he is alive, it is because we read, we investigate are always looking for new things.
We know our bikes to the family practice and talk, we know that serious people in your life as if Diana Ross was present either at the moment, it certainly does not agree with what is being done, we know that nothing happened to the doctor, including this practice again!
Michael would not harm someone's life this way, leading to prison, that's enough what are making people suffer.
Could it be that Michael does not return, and it can even happen, I do not doubt anything.
Now my friend, until I prove to contráio dead he is not the same!

Sincerely! ;)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 06:14:17 PM
Please........
   
I think it's not good when we dig up here ......
Each of us suffers, and it had been heavy 6 months and we have sweated blood, so to speak

I know it is hard and often do not know quite what to do, I also want only one thing to learn the truth one way or another!
We know we deserve what really happened is to be with MJ, we have not lied to us deserves that people think we are stupid.

I also have family and I neglect things if I spend hours every evening. (I have a husband and a daughter)

I know it's hard but I want to know what really happened!

MJ I can not simply be regarded as dead and over! If MJ is dead I want to know why damn it!
I want justice MJ has earned it, all those lies / Widersprüche.....ich can not tolerate it!

I fight my way through since June / July and I'm often very tired, but what do I do ... I'm glad to have you, yes, we have and we are a team right? One way or family? Please, no one is alone with these feelings!

I love you .... I do not know what else I can say
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:08:47 PM
I am a very true real fan of MJ since he and me were childs, and I have to say that I share the feeling of Michelangelo, I begin the year with my head cooler and my heart hurting but I have to accept the fact of not seeing him any more, my logic, my common sense tells me it is impossible he is alive  :cry:

I read with really incredulity and indignation some comments I see on internet about this, I find it very cruel to play with the feelings of thousands of fans that are looking for information about a possible hoax, sometimes I feel that some people enjoy hurting us inventing false clues, photoshoping pictures to make us believe....so sad.

I will not give up looking for logic and intelligent comments about the possible hoax, I enjoy doing it because my heart sings when it happens, but I wish I will not read again silly clues and proofs of nothing, they have made me loose my hopes and it hurts.

Be carefull and dont trust in everybody, let your head talk to you, not only your heart. We all want he is alive but think what will happen into 6 months if he doesnt appear, will you be here discussing about Dave Dave and the ambulance picture?

I need my life back, I lose it on 25th june but now I am ready to enjoy him, we have sooo many videos, songs, interviews, pictures......he always will be alive, very alive into each of us.

And if one day he appears OHHHHHHHHHH my God, I will be soo happy. Meanwhile, if he decided to dissapear it is not a child game, so I feel I must respect him and maybe if we find a real clue, it is not good for him, I dont know.

Sorry for my bad english and for my opinion.
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:13:50 PM
I hate to chime in because im really not even supposed to be posting here.. But let me say something

Michael's children havent even been photographed this holiday season..

We have a half barely there photo of the boys on december 16th getting a hair cut.

Paris has not been photographed since around December 6th and thats really the last time we saw all of them together..

Think about what you just said "A father can only go so long without his children".. Well we havent even really seen them, though no doubt of course a picture will pop up tomorrow, since they always seem to pop up when we mention not seeing them..

I hate to sound rude, but people thinking that Michael is going to make some EPIC come back only six months after it took him probably YEARS to put together is silly.


If your heart is telling you to move on and accept that he is gone, id suggest doing so for your own well being and peace of mind.. But just look at the big picture first :)

ok i'll shut up now!
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 07:18:06 PM
We all die.. It's a very natural part of life and nobody is exempt from it..

But when we die, it makes sense.. Even if we are murdered, things add up..

Think about it.. Really.. Forget all of what the "hoax" has taught you and go back to June 25th 2009 and fast forward to today... THINK about it.. Michael is dead?
Come on.. Use all of that knowledge and common sense.. That should really give you the most logical answer :)
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 09:15:37 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
Please.. dudes.. you are depressing me.

I love Michael. I dont want to be on this Earth if he is not.

Ive just spent the last 48 hours in bed.  I didnt eat and i didnt go out.

I am depressed over all of this.  I just want closure.

I wish to know what has happened to Michael.
IF YOU HAVE BEEN PERFOMING FOR OVER FORTY YEARS 6 MONTHS IS NOT LONG TO REST DONT LOSE FAITH MJ IS WATCHING ;) HI MJ
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Re: HOAX? nah .. it's over, let me explain why!

  • on: January 01, 2010, 10:50:50 PM
gosh i am feeling so bad right now :( ....u guyz if he wants to dissappear forever then why are we trying to figure him out? if we figure him out then people can get to him and hurt him all over again...i keep thinking we are being selfish by wanting him inthe public eye just for our satisfaction, if its not what he wants anymore then why are we trying to do this?

now what if he is really dead? are we being disrespectful on his death, to his family, children, and other fans? do we really need to just let go and just stop trying to figure it all out and just enjoy the memories he has given us through his music and interviews? I feel like...he isn't going to come back. i miss him too much to keep feeding my mind saying he is alive...and then what spring comes and he doesn't show? then we going to say well next season he will? its just going to be a forever thing... i very stressful.

I am still going to get on here everyday and search but I have this strange feeling that he may never show again because he dead/hiding forever. but i will still get on here because i want this so badly to be true...that he is still alive... but i feel i am not being very respectful and letting him RIP if he really is resting  :cry:  Michael I Love you, I really do, I'm afraid i will never let this go...its a life changing thing for me...Thank you for everything you have done...You taught me so much. Now i am spreading the love L.O.V.E....Peace
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