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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
March 24, 2010, 07:50:28 AM
I do not think that Michael is gay, he says not to be so why should not I believe him? however it makes no difference because as a person and as an artist is always exceptional and I love him so much. :P  :P

sorry for my english   :oops:   I am Italian!!
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
March 24, 2010, 01:35:05 PM
Quote from: "stevedelve"
Michael was an amazing performer and probably had a very kind soul. What does it matter if he was straight or gay?

What I find amazing is that shortly after we posted some information on our site which was given to us by an insider into the plot to discredit MJ in '93, which alluded to his homosexuality, the mainstream press (who at the time absolutely refused to touch our story), has now come out with statements and stories that MJ had secret relationships with women.
 
I think it's very important that we all take a look at ourselves and at our attitudes. If MJ was gay but couldn't come out because of his religious background and his fans' expectations, would we be willing to admit that our homophobia played a part in his demise?

I would like to share with you something i found today in the Queer Notes website. Now i don't agree with everything the author says in this article, but i found this part very thought-provoking:

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Jackson lived a life in the closet. From a young age, he was victimized by racism and a father who beat him. He grew up black in a racist, anti-gay society, and gay in a homophobic black culture. He did not love or accept himself as gay or black. As he tried to change his physical appearance through damaging plastic surgery, he tried to cover up his true sexual identity by playing straight. He had to keep his true self secret, from his family and fans. He could not be himself. He found substitutes for a loving gay relationship with fans, female friends, and children (I don't think he was a pederast though). He could NOT be himself.

All of this would drive anybody off the deep end. Add on the pressures of fame, fortune, stardom, and his growing financial problems, and we can see the results...

What IF Michael Jackson had been allowed, or allowed himself, to be an out gay superstar, who could have a healthy loving relationship with another man? Would he still be alive?
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Is the person who wrote that passage expressing an opinon.  It seems as if they are stating what they write as fact.  If so, how would they know MJ lived his life in the closet.  Did MJ confide in this person?
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I'M A LOVER, NOT A FIGHTER

Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 26, 2010, 10:33:42 AM
Quote from: "Datroot"
Quote from: "stevedelve"
Michael was an amazing performer and probably had a very kind soul. What does it matter if he was straight or gay?

What I find amazing is that shortly after we posted some information on our site which was given to us by an insider into the plot to discredit MJ in '93, which alluded to his homosexuality, the mainstream press (who at the time absolutely refused to touch our story), has now come out with statements and stories that MJ had secret relationships with women.
 
I think it's very important that we all take a look at ourselves and at our attitudes. If MJ was gay but couldn't come out because of his religious background and his fans' expectations, would we be willing to admit that our homophobia played a part in his demise?

I would like to share with you something i found today in the Queer Notes website. Now i don't agree with everything the author says in this article, but i found this part very thought-provoking:

Quote
Jackson lived a life in the closet. From a young age, he was victimized by racism and a father who beat him. He grew up black in a racist, anti-gay society, and gay in a homophobic black culture. He did not love or accept himself as gay or black. As he tried to change his physical appearance through damaging plastic surgery, he tried to cover up his true sexual identity by playing straight. He had to keep his true self secret, from his family and fans. He could not be himself. He found substitutes for a loving gay relationship with fans, female friends, and children (I don't think he was a pederast though). He could NOT be himself.

All of this would drive anybody off the deep end. Add on the pressures of fame, fortune, stardom, and his growing financial problems, and we can see the results...

What IF Michael Jackson had been allowed, or allowed himself, to be an out gay superstar, who could have a healthy loving relationship with another man? Would he still be alive?
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Is the person who wrote that passage expressing an opinon.  It seems as if they are stating what they write as fact.  If so, how would they know MJ lived his life in the closet.  Did MJ confide in this person?

Okay, so how do they know? :|
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 26, 2010, 10:37:40 AM
Ok, so they read the garbage book by Ian.  Oh, ok.
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 26, 2010, 11:08:56 AM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Ok, so they read the garbage book by Ian.  Oh, ok.

Ridiculous, ain't it?  :roll:
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 27, 2010, 07:22:07 AM
I really don't understand the stuff of him being gay.
He said so himself that he isn't gay.
Everybody believes what he said so himself then why not believe
when he said I'm not gay..  :)
To me it doesnt matter what he is, as long as he keeps on being
the beautiful person he is I'm ok with it  :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXWylTj9oA0[/youtube]
watch this from : 1:31 - the end
at: 2:02 he says I'm NOT gay..
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 27, 2010, 10:40:00 PM
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I really don't understand the stuff of him being gay.
He said so himself that he isn't gay.
Everybody believes what he said so himself then why not believe
when he said I'm not gay.. :)
To me it doesnt matter what he is, as long as he keeps on being
the beautiful person he is I'm ok with it :)


I agree completely Missy...
To me, and in my experience with what I knew as the man MJ was, he was already attacked by the media enough to not necessary shy away from their "opinions" if he was gay. Especially in the mid 2000's.
 As well, I know he had a deep enough love and appreciation for his fans, many MANY of which were homosexual, to 'out himself' he if he was.
 I can not see a man who had such a fascination and very deep (at times immeasurable) connection to life,not just being gay if he was. He loved every 'type' of person enough to align himself whenever possible with any part of people-nature-etc that he could. He would Just Be Gay. He was enough (and is) of a Icon to be able to that.

I think it says a lot that even today, a man must fit some archaic mold a masculinity,-or otherwise be gay. Gay straight-hairy not hairy (lol) a man is a man from the heart of his character-nothing else.

If he was-more power to him-so what-          Same Music-Same Message-Same Man! ;)
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Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Martin Luther King, Jr.
We are shaped and fashioned by what we love.
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 29, 2010, 01:27:48 PM
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 29, 2010, 01:35:57 PM
Quote from: "Gone too soon"
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.

WOW! WHAT A BEAUTIFUL POST!!!
GREAT WORDS, GREAT TRUTHS...
HE IS LOVE :oops:
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I dream things that never were and say: WHY NOT?

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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 29, 2010, 08:38:38 PM
Quote from: "Gone too soon"
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.

 :shock:   Thank you for this wonderful post :). Couldn't agree more
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OKAY, EVERBODY! THAT\'S A WRAP!

Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 30, 2010, 03:20:55 AM
Thanks.

I am a writer for profession and yesterday I just felt like honouring Michael.
I am sick and tired of all the crap that media spreads.

If you want to use the text and post it elsewhere, please do so. People need to open their eyes and see what he REALLY was. And is.

 :)
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
May 31, 2010, 08:07:36 PM
Quote from: "Gone too soon"
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.

Excellent post! You're absolutely right about everything you said here!
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
June 08, 2010, 05:58:51 PM
Quote from: "MJlover"
Quote from: "Gone too soon"
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.

Excellent post! You're absolutely right about everything you said here!

Uh, I don't know about that. Disagree on this one. :|
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Kirsche

Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
June 09, 2010, 01:02:07 PM
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Quote from: "MJlover"
Quote from: "Gone too soon"
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.

Excellent post! You're absolutely right about everything you said here!

Uh, I don't know about that. Disagree on this one. :|


but why? These are very nice words
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Re: ***breaking news*** best evidence yet
June 09, 2010, 05:56:27 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "Infinitylady"
Quote from: "MJlover"
Quote from: "Gone too soon"
Michael was a universal miracle.

He was very manly but sometimes very feminine.
He was black. And he was white.
He was timeless, yet so contemporary.
He was a child, but with a soul that seemed to have survived eternity.
He was timid and outspoken, easygoing but yet strict.
He was brutally sexy - at the same time innocent as a child.

Michael was each and everyone.
He incorporated all of our strengths, worries and feelings.
He carried mankind in his soul in a way that has never been experienced.

As time passes, people will come to terms with Michael being all of us, thereby uniting us through L.O.V.E.

Because Michael was and IS - The World.
For ever.

Excellent post! You're absolutely right about everything you said here!

Uh, I don't know about that. Disagree on this one. :|


but why? These are very nice words

Well, everything else was nice.  I didn't disagree with the entire thing just the part about him being feminine. That was all.
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