Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

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Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 04:23:45 PM
Okay, looking at some hoax vids, I came across this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jHXURkz ... re=related
Now, I'm not totally sure as to what message this person is trying to get at. The person has more vids on the subject and maybe I will watch them while I get more time. Anyway, this vid on the other did get me thinking on some things. I don' t really think that this has anything to do with the hoax persay, but I'm just putting out there if anyone might want to research it futher. Remember the version of the Willy Wonka movie with Johnny Depp? Well, while this movie has recieved a lot of praise, many people complain that this Willy Wonka was not the same as the original. (Of course they are not going to be same)They said that Johhny Depp's version was too twisted. In my opinion, I think the original one was pretty twisted as well, but that is beside the point. Well, most people know that when Johnny takes on a role, he looks to some inspirations of people he admires for the roles. Like when he played Jack Sparrow, he took on the personality of Keith Richards from the Rolling Stones. Many people felt that he took on the personality of Michael Jackson to play Willy Wonka. And Johnny said that Michael was not the inspriation (http://www.accessmylibrary.com/article- ... s-his.html) he was never really clear to WHO was his inspiration for that part. Now, IDK about you guys, but when I first saw that movie years ago, I felt that he was acting like Michael Jackson. Anyway, as I dig a little deeper and I found some intresting things. First, as we all know, Michael and Marlon Brando were really good friends. But Marlon had many famous friends. Guess who was one of them? That's right, Johnny Depp. Johnny and Marlon met YEARS ago through another mutal friend and became really close, due to the fact that like Marlon, Johnny wanted to act, but did not want to be famous. Now, does that mean that Michael and Johnny were friends? Well, I won't make any assupmtions about that, but it is my gut feeling that two have met. How can they not meet when they were really, really, good friends with the same person? Also, an article with Brent Ratner (another of one of Michael's friends) he mention that "He says they must've watched the original version of "Willie Wonka and the Chocolate Factory" 50 times over the years." (http://brettratnernewsblog.blogspot.com/) So, we know that Michael LOVED that movie, and more than likely, it not too out there to assume that Michael also loved Johnny's version. And last but not least, for awhile, BEFORE Michael "died" there were rumors swirling aroung that Johnny Depp wanted to play Michael in a bio pic about him. (http://www.theinsider.com/news/594284_J ... el_Jackson)
Well, these rumors died down a bit, until Michael "died." Johnny Depp did address these rumors, and denying that he would or even wanted to play Michael Jackson in any film. (http://www.starpulse.com/news/index.php ... ckson_in_m)
Now, after all of that, am I saying that Johnny Depp has some part in the hoax? Well, I really have NO CLUE what so ever. However, there are a lot of odd connections between to the two, so I thought I just put it out there. But it is in my gut feeling that two have met. So, what do you think?
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:28:08 PM
Appearently Michael wanted to play the wole of Edward in "Edward Scissorhands", but Johnny was always Tim Burton's first choice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Scissorhands

He then bought the original scissorhands requisite.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/02/sad-michael-jac/

And here's an interview with Caroline Thmpson, who wrote the story for Edward Scissorhands and was supposed to write a story for film FOR Michael, where he was going to play, but she didn't speak very nice of him.
http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/09/mich ... ssorhands/

Just wanted to add that - so there's a history with Tim Burton/Johnny Depp before Willy Wonka.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:33:17 PM
All I know is that Johnny is a Michael fan. and that I love them both but it doesn't really matter lol
and I love his version of willy wonka :)
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:37:14 PM
Don't take this the wrong way, but in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory(the one Johnny Depp is in) Willy Wonka kinda reminds me of Michael. :oops:  :oops:
I don't mean that disrespectfully.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:45:31 PM
Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
Don't take this the wrong way, but in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory(the one Johnny Depp is in) Willy Wonka kinda reminds me of Michael. :oops:  :oops:
I don't mean that disrespectfully.

Johnny's version of Willy Wonka reminds me of Michael too. Unless you meant that Johnny's version DID NOT remind you of Michael.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:09:40 PM
I'm a big fan of Johnny Depp, as well as Michael. I do see similarities between the characters of both Edward Scissorhands and Willy Wonka and Michael.  As far as I'm aware, the two never met (but I could be mistaken). It's interesting that Marlon was a close friend of both of them.

There was an interview with Johnny shortly after Michael's 'death'.  He was very complimentary towards him - I got the feeling that he admires him.  He also described it as a 'horror' that the family had lost a father, a brother and a son.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:12:45 PM
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Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
Don't take this the wrong way, but in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory(the one Johnny Depp is in) Willy Wonka kinda reminds me of Michael. :oops:  :oops:
I don't mean that disrespectfully.

Johnny's version of Willy Wonka reminds me of Michael too. Unless you meant that Johnny's version DID NOT remind you of Michael.

No I mean he does remind me of Michael :oops:
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:46:43 PM
HE REMINDS ME OF MICHAEL TOO... HOW COULD THIS BE? All from different countries, ages, cultures and we have almost the same feelings about michael... :?
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:52:39 PM
haha he reminded me of michael two. i loved that movie. i even have the video game. the oompa loopas in that movie give me the creeps though. lol
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 06:58:26 PM
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I'm a big fan of Johnny Depp, as well as Michael. I do see similarities between the characters of both Edward Scissorhands and Willy Wonka and Michael.  As far as I'm aware, the two never met (but I could be mistaken). It's interesting that Marlon was a close friend of both of them.

There was an interview with Johnny shortly after Michael's 'death'.  He was very complimentary towards him - I got the feeling that he admires him.  He also described it as a 'horror' that the family had lost a father, a brother and a son.

I'm a big fan too, and I knew they both were very close to Marlon. I never made the connection though :lol:
maybe they met..
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 09:14:24 PM
Quote from: "IBelieveInMiracles"
Don't take this the wrong way, but in Charlie and the Chocolate Factory(the one Johnny Depp is in) Willy Wonka kinda reminds me of Michael. :oops:  :oops:
I don't mean that disrespectfully.

yeah, me too. i even thought, why didn't they let mike play thay role? (especially after seeong him in that ebony mag.) :D
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 10:44:59 PM
I'd like to slap that ungrateful Thompson woman.. But I agree with you guys, Johnny (who is coincidentally my mom's favorite actor ever!) Wonka is cute and does act like our baby!

Wouldn't Mike look hot as Scissorhandsss?
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 03, 2010, 11:31:26 PM
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I'd like to slap that ungrateful Thompson woman.. But I agree with you guys, Johnny (who is coincidentally my mom's favorite actor ever!) Wonka is cute and does act like our baby!

Wouldn't Mike look hot as Scissorhandsss?

woohoo!
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 12:59:33 AM
when Edward scissor hands first came out I thought of MJ...when I first saw Willi Wonka, I first thought of MJ...I don't think that Johnny is using MJ as who he is as a person, but more of what the public's perception is of him, the persona he has perfected.  He is using the public's love affair with MJ's reclusiveness, public shyness, asexual portrayal, innocence, whimsy, unconventional looks, in the case of Edward scissor hands, the nativity and childlikeness to create these characters.  I have no doubt Johnny saw MJ as an inspiration for playing these roles...MJ is the one who perfected them in the first place...I mean all MJ's friends say that the public MJ and the private MJ are two different personalities...what did MJ say?  Mimickry is the highest form of flattery...(something like that)  MJ has grown up doing what he is doing and he knew what appealed to the public.  Remember what Ortega said about MJ...He is the Best Actor we have known...The only sad thing, Johnny got the credit for the personalities when MJ is the one who created it.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 02:21:17 AM
...and did you notice Johnny Depp in the movie "finding Neverland"??? He reminds me also of Michael in this film... hmm...
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 02:23:03 AM
Yes, I've always felt some connection between MJ, Willy and Edward!  :D  I love Johnny, he is a great actor. Mickey is very inspirational!
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 01:14:20 PM
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...and did you notice Johnny Depp in the movie "finding Neverland"??? He reminds me also of Michael in this film... hmm...
Oh yeah! I forgot about that one.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 02:13:22 PM
I've always seen the resemblance with Michael in Willy's character, even thou J. Depp obviously didn't had that in mind... Or did he? After all, Mr. Depp was probably minding his own reputation when he denied he had any influence from Michael when creating the character. I guess he wouldn't wanted to be associated with the image of MJ in 2005...

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Interview: Johnny Depp
A conversation with the new Willy Wonka.
by Steve Head
July 13, 2005
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Q: Some have already drawn the conclusion that your interpretation of the character could be likened to Michael Jackson. Tim and you have already stated that this never was the case. Does the fact that this comparison has been made bother you?

DEPP: It doesn't bother me. Everybody's entitled to think what they want, even while being violently wrong. (Laughs) The weird thing is, that actually never occurred to me, that there would ever be any kind of connection to Michael Jackson. It never entered my mind. I still don't quite understand it. I guess I can on one level because of the make-up and the children and the fantasyland kind of thing. But it seems weird to me. I say if there was anyone you'd want to compare Wonka to it would be a Howard Hughes, almost. Reclusive, germaphobe, controlling.
(...)
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 02:22:32 PM
I read somewhere that Johnny based his characterisation on MJ and that is what I have thought all along.  Maybe I'm wrong but it seems that way to me.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 02:38:44 PM
I cannot think that both never met. In that "world" everyone has at least met anyone once.
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 05:07:17 PM
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Appearently Michael wanted to play the wole of Edward in "Edward Scissorhands", but Johnny was always Tim Burton's first choice.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Scissorhands

He then bought the original scissorhands requisite.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2009/02/sad-michael-jac/

And here's an interview with Caroline Thmpson, who wrote the story for Edward Scissorhands and was supposed to write a story for film FOR Michael, where he was going to play, but she didn't speak very nice of him.
http://www.viceland.com/wp/2009/09/mich ... ssorhands/

Just wanted to add that - so there's a history with Tim Burton/Johnny Depp before Willy Wonka.


Oh, of course there's a history of Tim Burton and Johnny Depp....They're very close friend and that's one of the reason why Johnny's is acting in almost every Movie of Tim Burton ( Sleepy Hollow, Sweeney Todd, Edward, and now Alice in Wonderland)....and because he likes the way, Johnny is playing hs roles....he's one of the best IMO....sorry that was off topic, but I had to say that...and I love the Willy Wonka Movie :D
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 11:07:10 PM
I think we all liken Johnny to MJ and like them both because they are both unconventional and shy publicly and do what they want...
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: January 04, 2010, 11:51:37 PM
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...and did you notice Johnny Depp in the movie "finding Neverland"??? He reminds me also of Michael in this film... hmm...

Yes! Peter Pan, Neverland and Michael
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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: December 29, 2011, 05:34:02 PM
Just watched Charlie and the chocolate factory again.
Oh how I love it.
It´s a wonderful modern day parable.
And a reminder of everything that counts in life....modesty, humbleness, an open mind and a pure heart lead the way to the highest award...and in the end love is all that matters. Love and belief will take you to wonderland and make your world a better place.
So get your golden ticket, but make sure to use it right.

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Re: Willy Wonka, Johnny Depp, and Michael Jackson?

  • on: December 29, 2011, 05:56:27 PM
Just watched Charlie and the chocolate factory again.
Oh how I love it.
It´s a wonderful modern day parable.
And a reminder of everything that counts in life....modesty, humbleness, an open mind and a pure heart lead the way to the highest award...and in the end love is all that matters. Love and belief will take you to wonderland and make your world a better place.
So get your golden ticket, but make sure to use it right.

Sending you all my love tonight.
This one´s for everybody here

 bearhug

Oh boy I know what you mean with this movie,cause me and my husband saw it recently  8-) !!!
The movie was awesome and I had alot to learn from it.I saw also alot of connection with Michael's hoax ,lol  lolol/ !!!
Thank's again and a big hug for you to  bearhug   :) !!!

 

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