What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

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Offline DancingTheDream

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What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:07:36 PM
Ive just had a thought... is there any proof (photographic, video, etc) that Dr Murray was actually there at all on that fateful day of June????

I just thought.. tabloids lie and fill us with all manner of bullcrap.  

How we know he was there at all?

What if the doctor was not Dr Murray but Dr Thome Thome?

"i was at the wrong place at the wrong time.  The truth will prevail"

He has yet to be arrested....  maybe we have got it all wrong?

Why Joe Jackson asking for medical and autopsy reports?  What are they digging for?  Are they looking and searching for answers to and being kept in the dark?

I am absolutely convinced that this is a hoax on some level... if my beloved Michael really has departed then this is a Murder Hoax.. people running and covering up.

I do not believe for one second Michael was a drug addict and neither do i believe he took aenesthetic to sleep.. that is one of the most ridiculous things i have ever heard.  And sites such as "This is not is" are spreading this myth along with Karen Faye...   and its the "outsiders" who are spreading these lies not the "insiders".
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:18:39 PM
That's a very good point, we have no proof apart from the 911 call but that could have been anyone talking in the background. Since Murray released the video on youtube no truth has come out, I wonder when will the truth be revealed.
I still don't believe MJ is dead so i'm still in the fake death zone.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:19:19 PM
"i was at the wrong place at the wrong time. The truth will prevail"

I remember Annie pointing this out in her theory...probably he wasn't there...It's sad she shut down the blogs and everything related to her theory.   It has been  the closest one to explain all of this mess...

http://mjkit.forumotion.net/michael-jac ... t-t878.htm
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:21:06 PM
exactly.  We don't know for sure WHO was there.  No photos which is strange since there were so many cameras around.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 03, 2010, 05:30:16 PM
i think it was Kai Chase, the chef, who said in her interviews, that Dr.Mu was there, of course it does not need to be true. I think i have seen two of her interviews and she was talking exactly the same, like scripted story
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 23, 2010, 08:04:21 PM
Surveillance cameras at Jackson's home captured Dr. Conrad Murray arriving at 1:00 AM the day Jackson died, so an affidavit says. Murray has never denied being there. Even in his account of events to Police he admits being there to administer drugs to him. Now, was anyone else there, we don't know. Did anyone else have access to the room when Murray was not present.....


http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/27/heroin-fo ... ons-house/
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 23, 2010, 08:44:35 PM
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Surveillance cameras at Jackson's home captured Dr. Conrad Murray arriving at 1:00 AM the day Jackson died, so an affidavit says. Murray has never denied being there. Even in his account of events to Police he admits being there to administer drugs to him. Now, was anyone else there, we don't know. Did anyone else have access to the room when Murray was not present.....


http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/27/heroin-fo ... ons-house/
:?:   I thought the tapes were MISSING!!!!  How in the heck could they see Dr. Murray at 1:00 if the tapes were stolen?  SOMEBODY IS LYING :evil:
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 23, 2010, 08:49:29 PM
i just read few comments made by dr murray buddies kind of confusing me now
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http://www.vitals.com/doctor/profile/1730137340
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 26, 2010, 09:21:36 AM
Where are the sources (articles reports etc) that say tapes are missing?
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: January 26, 2010, 09:25:47 AM
i posted above link , click on ..i agree, and reads all the comments by dr  murrays colleagues( not mj fans ) , i found some of them strange i make you wonder what if he was / wasnt guilty  
   
  i also wonder mj had best physician treating him for years ,  why would he chose dr murray there must be something about him . his patients talk highly of him .
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: April 15, 2010, 08:28:51 PM
Quote from: "ForstAMoon"
i think it was Kai Chase, the chef, who said in her interviews, that Dr.Mu was there, of course it does not need to be true. I think i have seen two of her interviews and she was talking exactly the same, like scripted story

I don't think she mentioned the Dr. except to say that he would come down and get Michael's food and drink in the morning and she would see him carrying oxygen tanks.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: April 15, 2010, 08:32:08 PM
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Surveillance cameras at Jackson's home captured Dr. Conrad Murray arriving at 1:00 AM the day Jackson died, so an affidavit says. Murray has never denied being there. Even in his account of events to Police he admits being there to administer drugs to him. Now, was anyone else there, we don't know. Did anyone else have access to the room when Murray was not present.....


http://www.tmz.com/2009/08/27/heroin-fo ... ons-house/
:?:   I thought the tapes were MISSING!!!!  How in the heck could they see Dr. Murray at 1:00 if the tapes were stolen?  SOMEBODY IS LYING :evil:

The tapes from OUTSIDE the house is how they saw him arriving.  The tapes that were missing were from inside.  Somewhere along the line someone said he didn't keep the inside cameras running.  And the police have those.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: April 15, 2010, 08:48:18 PM
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Where are the sources (articles reports etc) that say tapes are missing?

TMZ saying the outside cameras took Murray are neither a source...

I´m with DancingTheDream.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: April 15, 2010, 10:41:25 PM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Where are the sources (articles reports etc) that say tapes are missing?

TMZ saying the outside cameras took Murray are neither a source...

I´m with DancingTheDream.

@quirkydiana

I don't have the links but there was also a spot on TV about it last year.  I watched it online.  If I come across it I'll post the link.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: April 15, 2010, 11:04:32 PM
We know there are no inside tapes found, for instance, from the Oxman interview with fans. What we don´t know is if they actually existed. Oxman says that MJ´s normal behaviour about recording inside was not to do it, because he was afraid someone could sell them, but he doesn´t know what behaviour MJ chose to follow in that house.

We don´t know if they exist.
We know they wasn´t found.
We don´t know if Murray is on the outside tapes.
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: July 09, 2010, 08:12:35 AM
Whem mj arrived at the house from reharsals , Murray 's car was at the house.
"Jackson returned to Carolwood Drive, stopping briefly at its metal gate to greet a small group of fans who had gathered outside his home. As they pulled into the driveway, the bodyguard Muhammad noticed Dr. Murray's car parked outside the home, just as it had been many nights previously. "
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100620/ap_ ... inal_hours
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Re: What if Dr Murray was not there at all????

  • on: July 12, 2010, 12:13:30 AM
everytime we hear a different story .... thats sad
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