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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 05, 2010, 12:55:59 AM
Quote from: "Mariso83"
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
He dosnt just stutter, he also points his chin. Like he puts his finger and touches his chin when he talks about Michael. He sometimes even bites his nails.  :mrgreen:

Well it's a sign he is lying lol

There's 15 signs of lying... :mrgreen:
They don't mention stuttering but maybe other things about Jermaine or other member of the family that anyone noticed?

1. Lack of eye contact.
One of the classic signs of deception is little to no direct eye contact. If someone is telling the truth, she’s likely to give you her full attention and look right at you.
2. Too much eye contact.
Sometimes liars are aware that they’re not making enough eye contact, so they compensate by giving you too much eye contact. It kinda feels creepy when this happens. It’s like you can’t get away.
3. Looking up and the right.
Some brain scientists believe that looking up and to the right triggers the part of the brain linked to the imagination. Conversely, when someone looks down and to the left, he’s stimulating the section of the brain associated with memories. That’s HIS left, not yours!
4. Lack of gestures.
The less someone gestures, the more likely it is that he’s keeping a secret or telling a lie.
5. Robotic movements.
Someone who’s truly emphasizing a point will gesture with her arms and hands in a fluid or firm way. Someone who’s withholding the truth may use her arms, but the movements will appear stiff instead of natural.
6. Too much detail.
When someone’s made the decision to lie, they will work out many details of their story. Many times, there will be incredible detail with their story, but if you quiz them, there will always be some discrepancies. Wait a few hours and then ask for some detail again. You may be surprised!
7. Hey! Where are their hands?
Observe whether the person you’re talking to:

Places his hands on his lap or clenches them
Covers his mouth when speaking
Touches or covers his face when listening
Rubs his eyes
Scratches on or behind the side of his ear
Any of these could be a signal that you’re being deceived.
8. The one shoulder shrug.
Observe whether the person you’re speaking with raises one shoulder slightly. That could be another indication of deception.
9. Crossed arms and legs.
Folded arms, crossed legs, and limbs kept close to the body indicate a need to protect something … sometimes. I cross my legs all the time and it doesn’t mean anything! It’s just how I sit. In general though, when you’re feeling relaxed and have nothing to conceal, you look relaxed, with your arms and legs in a natural position.
10. Tilting the head away.
Tilting the head away generally indicates discomfort with the situation. On the other hand, tilting the head toward you implies that someone is trying to get closer to the information.
11. Bad posture.
Standing or sitting up straight is an indication of confidence whereas slouching with hands buried deep in the pants pockets suggests insecurity and uncertainty. See, your mom was right, so sit up straight!
12. Inconsistencies when speaking
This is a dead giveaway. Pay attention to conflicting details and contradictions. “I thought you said you were out of town that Friday … ” BINGO!
13. Changes in vocal pitch.
When you’re familiar with someone’s normal speaking voice, you notice when it raises in pitch. This is usually a sign that the person is uncomfortable … or going through puberty.
14. A distinct pause.
When someone is making up a story as they go along, they will have to pause to think about the details. When they have to stray from their rehearsed story, they have to regroup. Pay attention to what’s said after the pause. It might be a lie.
15. A change in the rate of speech.
Again, depending on how well you know the person, you could notice not only a change in their vocal tone but also in how fast or how slowly they begin to speak.

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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 02:34:55 PM
Quote from: "THE JACKSONOLOGIST"
I didnt know Jerkmaine had a stuttering problem!! If that is true then usualy when the stutterer is faced with a situation that makes him nervous, the stutter becomes more prominant.

Jerkmaine??  Why do you call him that?  :roll:


@ AnnieIsNotOK, sounds like the Jacksons  :D
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 04:41:36 PM
Maybe that the fact of lying everyday becomes more and more difficult.
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We are here for you Michael and will always love you whatever happens.
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"You shall not accept any information, unless you verify it for yourself. I have given you the hearing, the eyesight, and the brain, and you are responsible for using them."

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Jude

Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 05:31:31 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
Quote from: "Mariso83"
Quote from: "DontBelieveTheHype"
He dosnt just stutter, he also points his chin. Like he puts his finger and touches his chin when he talks about Michael. He sometimes even bites his nails.  :mrgreen:

Well it's a sign he is lying lol

There's 15 signs of lying... :mrgreen:
They don't mention stuttering but maybe other things about Jermaine or other member of the family that anyone noticed?

1. Lack of eye contact.
One of the classic signs of deception is little to no direct eye contact. If someone is telling the truth, she’s likely to give you her full attention and look right at you.
2. Too much eye contact.
Sometimes liars are aware that they’re not making enough eye contact, so they compensate by giving you too much eye contact. It kinda feels creepy when this happens. It’s like you can’t get away.
3. Looking up and the right.
Some brain scientists believe that looking up and to the right triggers the part of the brain linked to the imagination. Conversely, when someone looks down and to the left, he’s stimulating the section of the brain associated with memories. That’s HIS left, not yours!
4. Lack of gestures.
The less someone gestures, the more likely it is that he’s keeping a secret or telling a lie.
5. Robotic movements.
Someone who’s truly emphasizing a point will gesture with her arms and hands in a fluid or firm way. Someone who’s withholding the truth may use her arms, but the movements will appear stiff instead of natural.
6. Too much detail.
When someone’s made the decision to lie, they will work out many details of their story. Many times, there will be incredible detail with their story, but if you quiz them, there will always be some discrepancies. Wait a few hours and then ask for some detail again. You may be surprised!
7. Hey! Where are their hands?
Observe whether the person you’re talking to:

Places his hands on his lap or clenches them
Covers his mouth when speaking
Touches or covers his face when listening
Rubs his eyes
Scratches on or behind the side of his ear
Any of these could be a signal that you’re being deceived.
8. The one shoulder shrug.
Observe whether the person you’re speaking with raises one shoulder slightly. That could be another indication of deception.
9. Crossed arms and legs.
Folded arms, crossed legs, and limbs kept close to the body indicate a need to protect something … sometimes. I cross my legs all the time and it doesn’t mean anything! It’s just how I sit. In general though, when you’re feeling relaxed and have nothing to conceal, you look relaxed, with your arms and legs in a natural position.
10. Tilting the head away.
Tilting the head away generally indicates discomfort with the situation. On the other hand, tilting the head toward you implies that someone is trying to get closer to the information.
11. Bad posture.
Standing or sitting up straight is an indication of confidence whereas slouching with hands buried deep in the pants pockets suggests insecurity and uncertainty. See, your mom was right, so sit up straight!
12. Inconsistencies when speaking
This is a dead giveaway. Pay attention to conflicting details and contradictions. “I thought you said you were out of town that Friday … ” BINGO!
13. Changes in vocal pitch.
When you’re familiar with someone’s normal speaking voice, you notice when it raises in pitch. This is usually a sign that the person is uncomfortable … or going through puberty.
14. A distinct pause.
When someone is making up a story as they go along, they will have to pause to think about the details. When they have to stray from their rehearsed story, they have to regroup. Pay attention to what’s said after the pause. It might be a lie.
15. A change in the rate of speech.
Again, depending on how well you know the person, you could notice not only a change in their vocal tone but also in how fast or how slowly they begin to speak.

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What about here, do anybody think hes lying here

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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 05:39:22 PM
Quote from: "Jude"
What about here, do anybody think hes lying here

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He's telling the truth ofcourse, cant you see the pain on his face when he asked him those disgusting questions  :x
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 05:45:55 PM
Quote from: "mjlovebug"
A stuttering problem? Aww poor Jermaine! But it does seem to get worse when he talks about Michael. He doesn't make eye contact either.

That was the thing I picked up on. The eye contact. When someone is lying they can't make eye contact. My mom (God rest her soul) always said don't trust anyone that can't look you in the eye because they're not telling the truth. Jermaine has been lying since Jun 25th. For heaven's sake he lied when he gave the press the notification that his brother had died at UCLA which is what a doctor is suppose to do. Since when does next of kin release death information to the press of such a high profile Entertainer! Keep the Faith!
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 05:49:24 PM
I think the situation MJ is under here can give false negatives on the "spot the lie" meter...  he is under interrogation in an unusual and pressured environment.

It would be nice if he answered the questions without the lawyers input, though.. when MJ is natural he often just tells it like it is.  From all the interviews i have seen, MJ never deviates or changes the story so i think he is telling the truth.

[youtube:2e4z443w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9Hzuroa4m0[/youtube:2e4z443w]
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Jude

Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: "sweet1"
Quote from: "mjlovebug"
A stuttering problem? Aww poor Jermaine! But it does seem to get worse when he talks about Michael. He doesn't make eye contact either.

That was the thing I picked up on. The eye contact. When someone is lying they can't make eye contact. My mom (God rest her soul) always said don't trust anyone that can't look you in the eye because they're not telling the truth. Jermaine has been lying since Jun 25th. For heaven's sake he lied when he gave the press the notification that his brother had died at UCLA which is what a doctor is suppose to do. Since when does next of kin release death information to the press of such a high profile Entertainer! Keep the Faith!


I would have to disagree on that, my poor mother god rest her soul, had a very difficult time making eye contact, not because she was lying , because she was so insecure, and I tend to look away while talking as well, not because I'm lying, if you lack confidance, then you tend to lose eye contact.   :cry:
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 07:57:17 PM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Jude"
What about here, do anybody think hes lying here

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He's telling the truth ofcourse, cant you see the pain on his face when he asked him those disgusting questions  :x

Of course he's telling the truth :shock: Poor him,he's in state of shock,he's hurt and darn angry,can't you tell by looking at him Jude???


I'm sorry Dancing,when I posted those lying signs,I thought It would be fun just to analyse the behavior of Michael's family.....not Mike...I just so sorry and hurt :(
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 08:05:35 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Quote from: "Jude"
What about here, do anybody think hes lying here

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He's telling the truth ofcourse, cant you see the pain on his face when he asked him those disgusting questions  :x

Of course he's telling the truth :shock: Poor him,he's in state of shock,he's hurt and darn angry,can't you tell by looking at him Jude???


I'm sorry Dancing,when I posted those lying signs,I thought It would be fun just to analyse the behavior of Michael's family.....not Mike...I just so sorry and hurt :(

Hmm???   What i do??  :?  :?

Sorry.. i was just joining in the conversation.  Dont be hurt.   :cry:
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 08:14:26 PM
about the vid of MJ
MJ closed that chapter in his life a long time ago.  Jurors heard the truth of what happened and voted him NOT GUILTY.  They heard things we have NEVER HEARD!  As for myself, and I'm sure for EVERY ONE else here, if we believed he did what THEY said he did...WE WOULDN'T BE HERE!  This story is the reason why MJ is not hear today.  As far as I'm concerned...this is the ONLY part of MJ that is DEAD!  Why torture him any more?
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 08:16:41 PM
@mykidsmum....  but if we believe in the hoax, are we not calling Michael the biggest liar of them all??????

This is when i waver.... we are basically calling Michael a big fat liar.  We defend him for what has happened in the past and state "MJ would never lie.  Its not in his heart.  He would never lie to his fans"

And yet... now we think that he has lied to us all...
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 08:23:25 PM
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Hmm???   What i do??  :?  :?

Sorry.. i was just joining in the conversation.  Dont be hurt.   :cry:

You did nothing wrong dear,I 'm upset 'cause Jude posted that video on a topic that you opened and I posted those lying signs and I didn't expect someone to analyse Michael's video,especially on such a sad occassion...My intention was to analyse Michael's family, so that's why I'm hurt...Nothing to do with you,in fact I enjoy reading you...sorry I got misunderstood...I feel like I screw up the topic  :oops: English is not my language
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Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 08:27:13 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
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Hmm???   What i do??  :?  :?

Sorry.. i was just joining in the conversation.  Dont be hurt.   :cry:

You did nothing wrong dear,I 'm upset 'cause Jude posted that video on a topic that you opened and I posted those lying signs and I didn't expect someone to analyse Michael's video,especially on such a sad occassion...My intention was to analyse Michael's family, so that's why I'm hurt...Nothing to do with you,in fact I enjoy reading you...sorry I got misunderstood...I feel like I screw up the topic  :oops: English is not my language

Aah.. do not worry.  ((hugs))   Sometimes these threads go off on tangents.   :D
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Jude

Re: Did you all notice when Jermaine....
January 06, 2010, 08:34:37 PM
Quote from: "AnnieIsNotOK"
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Hmm???   What i do??  :?  :?

Sorry.. i was just joining in the conversation.  Dont be hurt.   :cry:

You did nothing wrong dear,I 'm upset 'cause Jude posted that video on a topic that you opened and I posted those lying signs and I didn't expect someone to analyse Michael's video,especially on such a sad occassion...My intention was to analyse Michael's family, so that's why I'm hurt...Nothing to do with you,in fact I enjoy reading you...sorry I got misunderstood...I feel like I screw up the topic  :oops: English is not my language


Hey I never posted that to hurt anyone,I don't believe Michael had a mean bone in his body, a podofile only thinks of themselves, not give away 350 million dollars, no he dont meet the profile, Im making you think first before you post, when you say this is the 15 signs of lying, and then say that his own brother is lying because of this and that sign, well I had to post it, because Michael has some of those same signs, so what Im saying is, if Jermain and Michael both have similer signs, but only one could be lying, isnt that like a oxymoron?

Thoughts ?
comments?
 :D   :D
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