What is Susan Etok implying?? Very wierd comment on blog.

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Offline DancingTheDream

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I sometimes go on Susan Etoks blog, just as i do not trust her and read her views to see when and if she trips up.  So far, she is often vague and it is hard to decide if she really did know MJ or not.

Recently she has been active on her blog and has been replying to questions.

see link:  http://susanetok.wordpress.com/2010/01/ ... l-records/
and scroll down to see what she has written.

Notably, she states MJ did have a special lady in his life and he did have a tattoo on his forehead.

She obviously has this information from the so-called "leaked autopsies".

However,, one of her answers caught my eye and i have copied and pasted it below:

Kitty Says:
January 6, 2010 at 5:25 pm

@Mel
I think what gives us this odd feeling about the leaked autopsy report is that it´s sensationalism…like you said – the permanent make-up on Michael´s face,tatoo on his scalp,the nonsense about sperm production – all of this is not relevant to the cause of death.That´s why I think it´s a fake.Tabloid crap…
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      Susan Essien Etok Says:
      January 6, 2010 at 5:44 pm

      Seven months ago, I would have agreed with you that it was the tabloids that made it all up. I now realise where the tabloid stories come from – “Insiders cashing in.”

      The tatoo stuff is true. The other, it is hard to say.

      When autopsies are done, the coroner notes all visual observations. Things like breast implants and other cosmetic “prothesis” would be noted. With respect to sperm production this could be noted if there is reason for it to be obvious – do you catch my drift? I don’t know if this was actually the case or not but there is a possibility.

      My verdict – it was a Jackson insider that leaked that info for the purposes of highlighting a particular point.


So, what is Susan trying to imply about the "sperm production"??  She says that it would only be noted if there was a reason for it to be obvious.  

So is she trying to say MJ was sexually active just before his time of death???????

Sexually active with whom??  This mystery lady???  Or with DR CONRAD MURRAY???   :shock:  :shock:

Ive never thought about that theory before.  Please dont bash me for bringing this up.. but its interesting theory to consider.  
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Offline Ninanina

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Whether with a mysterious lady or someone else - I feel, that's not our business.
I think this info is more important for the question, whether his kids are his natural kids or not. At the time this was "revealed" by the media, some people already claimed (at least media said so) to be his kids' real fathers.
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Quote from: "Ninanina"
Whether with a mysterious lady or someone else - I feel, that's not our business.
I think this info is more important for the question, whether his kids are his natural kids or not. At the time this was "revealed" by the media, some people already claimed (at least media said so) to be his kids' real fathers.

Its relevant if its in the so-called autopsy report.. and its relevant if someone in the Jackson family felt the need to leak it to "make a point"

Im investigating the death.,., or the hoax.. all information is relevant.  Susan is saying its been put out there for a reason.  

I dont think its relevant to the children as Susan is saying that it would only be in an autopsy if it was relevant for the time.  Get what i mean?
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Offline mjthelegendlives

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DTD...I know some are going to get probably mad about that comment on CM and MJ, but I understand where you're coming from.  I think these reports were from the second autopsy? If thats the case, well then its hard to have umm physical evidence about the sperm production.  Is that what youre referring to?  

Maybe someone leaked the information to prove that MJ is the father of the kids? I read somewhere that the kids werent his, because he couldnt produce sperm due to the beatings he received as a child. But I dont know...I dont feel comfortable discussing this..thats all I can think of.
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Offline DancingTheDream

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I understand that it may have been leaked for the purposes of trying to stem the rumours about MJs children.

But Susan is saying that it would only be in the autopsy if it was relevant at the time...  um.. so it was there at the time.

Ok... say a woman was murdered.. the Coroner would able to determine if sexual activity had taken place and whether that activity was consensual.

So i think what Susan is implying is that sexual activity took place around the time of MJs death.

It just shocked me a bit, as i had not thought about any element or slant on it like that.
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Ok, um, let's pretend that Michael did die.
And let's pretend that he was killed by Dr. Murray due to administration of propofol.

Now, with alllllll of the medications that were supposed to have been given during the last hours of his life, how the heck would he be able to um, "function"?!?!    :?  :oops:

I can't imagine that this is what she's referring to.

Maybe she's referring to it being possible that the children are his biological offspring?
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Offline Ninanina

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I just sent an email to a German coroner...

Thinking about it, I guess Susan is wrong, because in an autopsy all organs are examined and I think this info will be included in all autopsy reports.
We only get the details the media consider as important and as soon the word sperm is included, they wouldn't miss that point for Michael.
A full autopsy report would include the functionality of all organs and I'm sure a coroner doesn't need sperm to detect, if someone is able to produce it. He just needs to look at the sperm producing organ.

But she's a medical doctor, right? Well, let's see what the coroner has to say...

EDIT: oh no, she's not a MEDICAL doctor... Biomaterial Engineer.
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Offline DancingTheDream

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When autopsies are done, the coroner notes all visual observations. Things like breast implants and other cosmetic “prothesis” would be noted. With respect to sperm production this could be noted if there is reason for it to be obvious – do you catch my drift? I don’t know if this was actually the case or not but there is a possibility.

I read that as her saying the coroner...   visually inspected it and noted it.  So it was noted because was obvious.

oh.. i dont know.   :lol:
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Offline virgo75

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Wait, just remembered something:

At the time of death "fluids" and such just kind of empty out.
This could include sperm.
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Could this be the girl he was dating? Sorry is that has been post....
.Here is some information i found on the internet..Im not sure but still , im wodering
http://lcn.canoe.ca/lcn/artsetspectacle ... 01542.html
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J9r_l7-8SI
HOT!!!! LOL  8-)
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oh come on people...our babe is not dead
this discussion cannot penetrate.
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I have a hunch that Susan Etok may very well be MJ's girlfriend. Shortly after MJ "died" she admitted that MJ was discussing having a child with her and according to her conversation he was very eager about it getting underway. Perhaps, if he did die it was during the act of producing that child?!?!?!?!? It's been known that men can have a heart attack during love making.  However, to me, there is something about it that is off. Why would they need to cover that up with a propofol/drug cocktail overdose? It just doesn't make any sense to me. Perhaps the Susan Etok thing is another diversion---just to add mystery to the mix?!?!?!?
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Quote from: "mjthelegendlives"
DTD...I know some are going to get probably mad about that comment on CM and MJ, but I understand where you're coming from.  I think these reports were from the second autopsy? If thats the case, well then its hard to have umm physical evidence about the sperm production.  Is that what youre referring to?  

Maybe someone leaked the information to prove that MJ is the father of the kids? I read somewhere that the kids werent his, because he couldnt produce sperm due to the beatings he received as a child. But I dont know...I dont feel comfortable discussing this..thats all I can think of.
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I think this, also.  When I first heard that in the report, I was like, "WTH does that have to do with anything?!"  But then I thought, "Oh, there has been ALOT of speculation about Michael's children and whether he could have children at all."   I used to hear the rumor that Michael had been, um, gelded, if you know what I mean.  A statement regarding his production of "little men"  :oops: would put those rumors to rest. That is why I think this information was leaked.  That is my opinion.
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ROFL.@With doctor murray!!  :lol:
you know what?i don't why i did it but i just randomly thought about that possibility once. :?
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Quote from: "MJJLives"

I think this, also.  When I first heard that in the report, I was like, "WTH does that have to do with anything?!"  But then I thought, "Oh, there has been ALOT of speculation about Michael's children and whether he could have children at all."   I used to hear the rumor that Michael had been, um, gelded, if you know what I mean.  A statement regarding his production of "little men"  :oops: would put those rumors to rest. That is why I think this information was leaked.  That is my opinion.
See i heard about him getting "gelded" i just say fixed ahahahaha but maybe Michael wanted that to go to prove to everyone that YES he still has gonads and YES they def still work :)
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no, i dont think it is..

IMO,the autopsy was released during the the time where in everyone is questioning about Omar and some of his kids, so it is possible that they included it on the report to at least prove that he is capable of having kids..
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To counteract the claims that Michael had a low sperm count and collected sperm from his close friends. Those stories were out to cause doubt of the paternity of Michael's children and that he couldn't produce enough of his own to do this.

That would be the relevance in my opinion.
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Susan wasn't his girlfriend, he was dating someone named Jessica Barnes.
Unless he and Jessica broke up before his death last year and he turned to Susan.
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I dont to trust susan and no mj is not dead and yes some of these posts have had me crying with laughter :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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before I read all these posts could someone give me a summary on who Susan Etok is? All I heard was that she said that Mj asked her to be the mother of his next child.
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I WIL BE THE MOMMY OF HIS NEXT CHILD!!!! OH PICK MEMEMEMEMEMEME!!! HEEHEE JK really though i am just kidding hahaha i was just copying the scene with at the ice cream truck ahahaha i love that part  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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I don't believe a word this woman has to say. I don't even believe she was even close to MJ, just another one trying to milk his fame.
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Quote from: "MJJLives"

   I used to hear the rumor that Michael had been, um, gelded, if you know what I mean.

Sorry, but that made me laugh!!! :lol:  You geld horses, not humans. Last time I looked, Michael isn't a horse! :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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Quote from: "susie_23"
Susan wasn't his girlfriend, he was dating someone named Jessica Barnes.
Unless he and Jessica broke up before his death last year and he turned to Susan.


Does anyone have a pic of this Jessica girl? Im curious to what she looks like.


And for the sperm thing....that was an odd thing to say in an autopsy report. The ONLY reason I think they included it was to sway people into believing his kids were biologically his....that his Little MJ ( or big MJ, LOL!  :oops: ) worked and was healthy.
Its still ODD that they even mentioned it...it has nothing to do with his death... at all.

We didnt hear about Anna Nicole Smith being on her period, or ovulating or having an ovarian cyst when she died did we? Why mention it with MJ?

An old member here, Anniesnotokey, mentioned something when this report came out and it was rather funny but interesting...she said "Id like to know how a dead body can actively produce ANYTHING.." in regards to MJ actively producing sperm.

...LMAO!!!
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