Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

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Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:13:05 PM
News of the World have run with a story that they have obtained copy of MJ death certificate that has never been published before.

Link:  http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/news/66 ... icide.html

Michael Jackson: It WAS homicide

By James Desborough, 10/01/2010

MICHAEL Jackson's death certificate rules he WAS murdered, the News of the World can reveal.

We obtained a copy of the document and an amendment to it - that have never been published.

On the original July 7 certificate deputy coroner Cheryl MacWillie refuses to give a cause of death.

But after further probes, it is amended on August 31 by medical examiner Christopher Rogers to "homicide".

He concludes Jacko died from "acute Propofol intoxication" due to an "intra-venous injection by another".

Meanwhile Jacko's doctor Conrad Murray, 56, has hired a hotshot lawyer in case he is charged over the June 25 death.

Jacko basks in the applause at the end of his final concert in LA.

Hollywood legal eagle Michael Flanagan saved a nurse from a murder charge when she was accused of wrongly administering painkiller Propofol.

Murray already has a Houston law firm building his defence. Police affidavits say he admitted loading up Jacko, 50, with Propofol and other drugs in the hours before his death.

The prosecution is likely to use lawyer Patrick Dixon, who helped put Phil Spector behind bars.

Dr. Conrad Murray, Jacko's doctor

But yesterday a Jackson family source said: "We are all keeping our faith with the police. We want them to do this case properly and put away the man who we feel is responsible for Michael's death.

"We want the authorities though to release details of what happened to Michael in his last few hours. We want the paperwork to come out to show just what drugs were put inside him and what happened in his last few hours alive.

"Much of the documentation has been kept secret - and we can't understand it.

"We still feel that there is more than one person responsible for Michael's tragic death. Joe won't give up on getting justice for his son and a lawuit is his focus."

doc1:  http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 81075a.jpg

doc2:  http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 81072a.jpg

Last night a coroners office worker explained the void branding on the forms was issued by the health authority which holds the documents. They brand forms like this to avoid them from being used for fraudulent purposes.
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its got the embalmer's name on it!!   :shock: JESUS MIGUEL RUIZ

SOMETHING HAS JUST POPPED OUT!!!

it says DEPOSITION DATE 07/07/09 FORREST LAWN..

THEN IT SAY DEPOSTION TEMP!! what does that mean!!! i thought he was buried there!!
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:28:49 PM
Does TEMP mean Temporary if so does that mean he has not been buried yet
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:30:01 PM
All this does not please me at all .... now the turn
Should now be particularly attentive. 8-)
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:33:51 PM
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Does TEMP mean Temporary if so does that mean he has not been buried yet

Thats what i thought.. and if its up to date then shouldn't that have been amended to PERMINANT!!  :shock:
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:35:14 PM
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Does TEMP mean Temporary if so does that mean he has not been buried yet
Yeh I'd guess it means temporary.  But it wouldn't mean that he hasn't been buried yet, just that if he has, it is just temporary.  But I'm sure I read something that said they were only burying him there temporarily, until the family decided on a final place ie. Neverland. :?
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:36:52 PM
This is making me nervous.  :?
But isn't this what we've heard? That January would be a crazy month?

I don't know what to believe anymore  :cry:  :?
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:38:09 PM
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Does TEMP mean Temporary if so does that mean he has not been buried yet
Yeh I'd guess it means temporary.  But it wouldn't mean that he hasn't been buried yet, just that if he has, it is just temporary.  But I'm sure I read something that said they were only burying him there temporarily, until the family decided on a final place ie. Neverland. :?

I heard that too. But if those pics of the crpyt are real, how are they suppose to get him out?
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:39:27 PM
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Does TEMP mean Temporary if so does that mean he has not been buried yet
Yeh I'd guess it means temporary.  But it wouldn't mean that he hasn't been buried yet, just that if he has, it is just temporary.  But I'm sure I read something that said they were only burying him there temporarily, until the family decided on a final place ie. Neverland. :?

I heard that too. But if those pics of the crpyt are real, how are they suppose to get him out?
Well, that's a good question!  :lol: ... Maybe there is a way.. who knows!
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:42:13 PM
ermmm... isn't he suppose to be under huge amounts of concrete!! so there gonna smash all that up without harming his coffin then move him somewhere different!! sounds fishy to me..

oh and put everyone through another buriel!!  :shock:
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:44:21 PM
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ermmm... isn't he suppose to be under huge amounts of concrete!! so there gonna smash all that up without harming his coffin then move him somewhere different!! sounds fishy to me..

oh and put everyone through another buriel!!  :shock:

If this is a hoax...and he's alive....and he comes back at some point....can you only imagine how painful his REAL death is going to be?
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:46:17 PM
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ermmm... isn't he suppose to be under huge amounts of concrete!! so there gonna smash all that up without harming his coffin then move him somewhere different!! sounds fishy to me..

oh and put everyone through another buriel!!  :shock:

If this is a hoax...and he's alive....and he comes back at some point....can you only imagine how painful his REAL death is going to be?

yeh i know... but my opinion on that is.. after he has done whatever it is he has to do he'll just disappear.. and the rest will be history!! so it won't be world wide news just a private family thing!!
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:47:10 PM
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ermmm... isn't he suppose to be under huge amounts of concrete!! so there gonna smash all that up without harming his coffin then move him somewhere different!! sounds fishy to me..

That's what makes me think this is fake. There hardly likely to smash the concrete so he's kinda stuck in there. And think of all the money they would have spent entombing him in concrete, all a bit pointless if you as me.
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:55:18 PM
News of the World has NEVER been a reliable source.  It is as close to tabloid news as you can get!   :| I wouldn't waste too much time dwelling and worrying about this article.
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 01:57:34 PM
doc1: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 81075a.jpg

Jonathan Fielding MD is listed as the signing Local registrar. He has wiki page.
Jonathan E. Fielding M.D., M.P.H., M.A., M.B.A. is the Director of the Department of Public Health and is the Health Officer for Los Angeles County.
http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jonathan_Fielding

The signatory for the  LA Coroners Office is Cheryl Macwillie. She is a Coroner's Lieutenant and  Spokesperson.
Los Angeles County Coroner's Lt. Cheryl MacWillie
http://http://www.123people.com/s/cheryl+macwillie

The embalmer is listed as Jesus Miguel Ruiz - license number 8473
CEMETERY AND FUNERAL BUREAU
Licensee Name:   RUIZ JESUS MIGUEL
License Type:   EMBALMER
License Number:   8473
License Status:   CLEAR Definition
Expiration Date:   April 30, 2010
Issue Date:   April 08, 1998
County:   LOS ANGELES
http://http://www2.dca.ca.gov/pls/wllpub/WLLQRYNA$LCEV2.QueryView?P_LICENSE_NUMBER=8473&P_LTE_ID=728


doc2: http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multime ... 81072a.jpg

Christopher Rogers MD as the certifying Physician or Coroner. He is listed at the:
LOS ANGELES COUNTY MEDICAL EXAMINER-CORONER
Forensic Medicine - Christopher Rogers, M.D. 323-343-0715
http://http://www.calema.ca.gov/WebPage/oeswebsite.nsf/0/24E79A109ABCF25B8825743C007AB077?OpenDocument

All of these people seem to really exist....  :(
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 02:20:18 PM
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ermmm... isn't he suppose to be under huge amounts of concrete!! so there gonna smash all that up without harming his coffin then move him somewhere different!! sounds fishy to me..

oh and put everyone through another buriel!!  :shock:


You know if MJ is "dead" which I doubt but have they ever heard of letting the dead rest in peace!!!
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 02:27:48 PM
@Serenitys_Dream

this is what is getting to me about the whole thing.. FRAUD comes to mind if its a fake D/C.. i wouldn't have thought they could sign or lend their name to FAKE documents if you know what i mean..  :?

as much as i try to convince myself.. YEAH IT CAN BE DONE!! but i'm sure that would be illegal..  :roll:
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 02:28:20 PM
I dont understand whats been going on this weekend.  Im getting really tired of it all.   :(
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 02:30:11 PM
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I dont understand whats been going on this weekend.  Im getting really tired of it all.   :(


I sooo agree. They are REALLY trying to PROVE he is gone especially this weekend!! But this IS coming from one of the worst tabloids out there.
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 02:32:36 PM
They always throw us out from time to time what! You want to keep the issue hot!! It's like a bait ....
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 05:01:59 PM
I cant understand why todays big news in the media is "MJ was murdered" and "world exclusive death certificate" when this has been on the web for months.. we knew about all this ages ago.
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 05:43:49 PM
There is something wrong with this situation on so many levels. On the first set of death certificates Jonathan Fielding signed the death certificates. Why Dean Logan sign this one? Why different signatures? Something isn't right. If he was really dead and his death was documented then there wouldn't be a need for another person to sign another death certificate.

I think they're trying to scare people into trying to prove Michael is dead because time is running out and more evidence is pointing to him being alive than him being dead. So until I get hardcore facts, I'm sticking to my guns. :D
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 06:34:05 PM
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But anyways lol....if so,then he hasnt been buried,which he never was in the first place.Nothing to worry about.the question is why its being brought up?
Im sure we will get a rejection saying its a fake,I say wait for TMZ,yes its a tabloid but its easier that way,easier to root truth from lie from the brickman .
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Re: Death Certificate..? World Exclusive Claim?

  • on: January 10, 2010, 06:50:21 PM
Why there's LaToya's name on it? Is it because she did the formal stuff regarding funeral or is it because she applied for getting this document? If it's so, then it must be fake, 'cause she couldn't apply it, being since 30.12.2009 till now in Europe...
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