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Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 11, 2010, 07:22:51 PM
I found this link on another forum to one of the paramedics who worked on MJ...His wife's blog.  His name is Jeff and his wife is Darylynn.  This is what she said happend that day in her blog.  I'm not sure what to believe anymore.  I will include the link at the end of the picture.[attachment=0:29vm60xp]paramedics.jpg[/attachment:29vm60xp]
Here is the linkhttp://http://millsfamilyhomepage.com/wp/?m=20090626
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 11, 2010, 07:41:09 PM
Thanks mykidsmum for your post . it is indeed very interresting find.

Maybe someone can ask here about the only photo taken of Michael jackson dead ... Her husband should know something about this . for sure .
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 11, 2010, 08:15:47 PM
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Thanks mykidsmum for your post . it is indeed very interresting find.

Maybe someone can ask here about the only photo taken of Michael jackson dead ... Her husband should know something about this . for sure .
Here is what she said about the photo a couple of days later[attachment=0:1j0yf9ni]Untitled.jpg[/attachment:1j0yf9ni]
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 11, 2010, 10:09:36 PM
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I found this link on another forum to one of the paramedics who worked on MJ.... I'm not sure what to believe anymore.
Yes, these blog posts are a wonderful discovery, especially considering the pains the blogger took to not refer to Michael by name and play up her insider knowledge. She seems very honest and respectable.

As for what to believe: I still find it *incredibly* hard to believe that not a single one of the many, many people who supposedly saw Michael dead on June 25 (and afterward) bothered to snap a photo, whether they were professionals or just bystanders.

This blogger even states directly that everyone on her husband's crew had camera cellphones with them when they responded but still didn't take a single photo, even though they were also well aware of how much money such a photo could earn them.

As much as I might try, I can't buy that. Not to imply that medical and city workers are dishonest by nature (I'm sure some are and many aren't), but taking a quick snap on a cellphone is way TOO easy for that many people to ALL pass up.

So, in a roundabout way, this blogger's posts about June 25 don't bother me because they seem to continue the same pattern of unbelievable events that we've been witnessing since June 25. How odd is it that NO other photo from June 25 of an allegedly dead Michael -- one of the MOST famous and hounded people on Earth -- has surfaced besides the several of that same scene in the ambulance? It's too odd to even express with mere words.

Thanks for posting about this blog.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 12, 2010, 05:42:57 AM
Someone posted that link a couple days ago and I was surprised barely anyone took notice.  I was pretty disheartened when I read it. I'm really not sure what to think honestly.  viewtopic.php?f=39&t=842&start=125
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 12, 2010, 05:52:24 AM
...if we are wrong???? :roll:
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 12, 2010, 06:03:21 AM
there was the tour bus outside...noone took a shot? C'monnnnnn!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 12, 2010, 06:18:07 AM
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there was the tour bus outside...noone took a shot? C'monnnnnn!!!!!!!!!

A shot of what?  They couldn't see inside the gates.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 13, 2010, 05:04:03 PM
I think this is real proof he is gone.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 13, 2010, 05:08:09 PM
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I think this is real proof he is gone.

I may have to agree, It maybe time to call it quits........
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 13, 2010, 05:32:10 PM
This makes my blood run cold
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 13, 2010, 06:03:31 PM
wtf? yall see one thing and give up?!! after what 7 months? o h yea real good,real cool.... :roll:  im disappointed in you all..like seriously and im 14,i dont like seeing this happen.  :| to many times!!
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 04:55:04 AM
So has this not been discussed any more than this?  I've been gone over a week so haven't had a chance to catch up.  I can't believe barely anyone thinks this is really important.  I find it strange how everyone ignores the topics that might lean towards him actually being gone.  Things that are real, not just "clues" from invisible internet trolls.  Aren't we here to find the truth, no matter what?  Come on guys, help debunk this somehow!

At least they tried to do that on this hoax board... there's 20 pages about it! http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=1675
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 09:12:39 AM
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So has this not been discussed any more than this?  I've been gone over a week so haven't had a chance to catch up.  I can't believe barely anyone thinks this is really important.  I find it strange how everyone ignores the topics that might lean towards him actually being gone.  Things that are real, not just "clues" from invisible internet trolls.  Aren't we here to find the truth, no matter what?  Come on guys, help debunk this somehow!

At least they tried to do that on this hoax board... there's 20 pages about it! http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/ ... =64&t=1675


I agree with you and I also find it odd that every time what looks like a good piece of evidence pointing towards his death turns up, someone says "one thing and you are ready to give up". There have been many "one things" so that amounts to a lot of things.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 09:31:06 AM
I really don't think this shows anything. How can we really know if that woman is really the paramedic wife??? Internet has the ability that everybody can pretend to be someone they're not, as we've seen millions of MJ's around there that also "talk" very honestly and you could say that MJ is behind it but turn out that's another dissapointment. There's a lot of people working hard enough to make everybody believe MJ is really dead, they even now make YT videos treating the believers like a bunch of crazy people, so it's not far fetched that somebody else at the time made this posts, trying to make the story more believable, considering that not even ONE person in the house, the ambulance, the UCLA or the helicopter wanted to say anything.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 09:54:05 AM
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I think this is real proof he is gone.

I may have to agree, It maybe time to call it quits........
You know what guys, It is not time to call it quits, if MJ has indeed died, there is something behind it and it's not as simple as an over dose.  There are close fans of MJ who have said on another web site that MJ did not want to do these shows and the company (AG?) was killing him.  There are people who think that this has to do with his Sony catalog who's estimate value has been WAY understated in the media and is worth more along the lines of a couple billion.  There IS something stinky here.  Didn't Ortega say at the beginning, before he shut his mouth, that MJ was afraid someone was trying to poison him and wasnt eating or drinking...then he changes his story and says...oh the best shape ever, the best ever!...If MJ isn't hiding out, he needs us to find out how this happend.  This isn't as simple as Murry fuc*ing up.  Stay here guys, just for the simple fact that we all have one thing in common, we all LOVE MJ and we all smell a stinky fish.  Don't lose heart!
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 10:01:24 AM
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I really don't think this shows anything. How can we really know if that woman is really the paramedic wife??? Internet has the ability that everybody can pretend to be someone they're not, as we've seen millions of MJ's around there that also "talk" very honestly and you could say that MJ is behind it but turn out that's another dissapointment. There's a lot of people working hard enough to make everybody believe MJ is really dead, they even now make YT videos treating the believers like a bunch of crazy people, so it's not far fetched that somebody else at the time made this posts, trying to make the story more believable, considering that not even ONE person in the house, the ambulance, the UCLA or the helicopter wanted to say anything.

If you actually take the time to look into this, you will find that she is most definitely Jeff Mill's, the LAFD captain's wife, and she has had her little blog for years now.  The person that found it said it was buried under 50+ pages.  Notice they didn't even use Michael's name when talking about him?  This says they are not trying to throw us off the trail or anything like that.  We can't disregard things like this just because they don't fit into our hoax theory.  Are we here to find the truth about what happened to MJ or not?  Things do not add up at all, and alive or not, I want to get to the bottom of it.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 10:31:35 AM
The bit that gets me is, in the first one she writes
"Jeff said they used everything in their paramedic kits and worked on him for 45 minutes taking turns doing chest compressions. He's pretty sure he was gone before they got there."

How could he have been pretty sure he was gone before they got there? Also this is now in the present tense (he's), so this is now after the fact, in which case why would he and the crew worked on him for 45 minutes. Besides, we know that he wasn't "gone" because his death certificate would have indicated this.

Also she makes it seem as if he was the chief paramedic - Jeff's ambulance, he was fielding calls, Jeff's crew, if this is the case and all these agency's kept phoning his fire station, they would obviously be able to find a list of personnel at the station (we know what the media are like), why hasn't his name been thrown all over the place?? HEADLINE "the man who tried to save Michael Jackson!".

"They all had cellphones with cameras, but not one took a photo" - Firstly how would she know this, and secondly,  no-one took a photo in the house, in the grounds, of the comotion outside or inside the hospital, which seems strange since they were there for 5 hours. But the only photo that came about was taken inside the ambulance of the computer screen which shows details of the emergency, so obviously one of them was out on a mission to take photos, so why didn't he take more, was there anything inside the house worth taking a picture of?

He also managed to send her a text message 12 minutes after Michael was pronounced dead and 6 Minutes BEFORE TMZ officially broke the news! Also at 2:35pm it was reported that a Fire Official told the LA Times Michael Jackson was in the hospital and this was reported by AP, but this is 9 minutes after he was pronounced, and also 3 minutes before Mrs. Jeff got her text, so I don't really understand this situation. (Besides I didn't think you were supposed to use cellphones in a hospital, especially if you are a paramedic?  :lol: )

In the second one, how could you laugh off an accusation and make fun about selling "the last photo"??!! "Jeff and the guys laughed off the accusation... the first one who turns up with a new boat will be the prime suspect" - Yeah thats real funny... HOWEVER, she then writes - "...how frustrating it must be for celebrities to read all the lies printed about them in tabloids" Is she now saying she thinks its fake??!

Also there's something about  people not mentioning Michaels name in all of this, the 911 call, Jeff's wife, and even Los Angeles Fire Department spokesman Devin Gales would not confirm Michael's identity but said paramedics went to an address corresponding to the star's home at 12:21 pm and the person was taken to UCLA Medical Center (Reported by AFP)
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 11:15:05 AM
Ok, honestly?

This looks legit.

1)This blogger has had and posted on their site since 2006.  So it's not like she only started in the spring of 2009, then, "OH my gosh! MJ died and my husband worked on him!!!"  :roll:

2)Whoever worked on him when they got there, would be able to tell if someone was "gone" by their body temperature and whether or not rigor mortis had started to set in.  So saying he thought he was gone before they got there, isn't a big step.  The death certificate lists the time of death as announced by the physician.  NOT the speculated time of death.  So if he had been dead for weeks but only found on 6/25/09, his certificate would still say that he was pronounced dead on 6/25/09.

3)I'll believe that no one took a photo since none surfaced.  I also believe that since they were with a captain, none of them wanted to risk losing their jobs.  If things were as they say - trying to rescucitate a dead or dying patient - they would be too busy to take pics.  Again, their jobs could be on the line and they could be sued for negligence if they were too busy taking pics to help the patient.  Even the thought of a $1 million paychech is easily deterred when you risk losing your license, and you could lose a bulk of the money in legal fees if you're sued.  Not pretty.

4)The timing of the text message isn't suspicious either.  If they had delivered him to UCLA but were stuck there waiting around to give whatever information they needed to give, then it would be a "down" time.  And you aren't supposed to use cell phones in certain areas of the hospital, but I think it's ok in waiting rooms & offices.

5)Guys joke about things.  So it's not odd that they would joke about someone showing up with a new boat.  

6)Finally, I think she and her husband could get into trouble if they actually used Michael's name and posted that type of information without permission.  Obviously, the only place she could get that information from is her husband.  He could get into trouble for giving it to her.  They do have a bit of leeway, in that they can talk to people about cases as long as they leave out names.  Which is probably why he would have to text 'VIP' and she had to leave the name out of her blog.

All in all, this really looks legit.


The ONLY way I see it NOT being legit is if Michael paid them to post these things.  But even then, why would he do that?  It would make more sense to pay them to not only post it, but go to the media and sell their story if he really wanted it to look like he's dead....
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 11:23:55 AM
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2)Whoever worked on him when they got there, would be able to tell if someone was "gone" by their body temperature and whether or not rigor mortis had started to set in.  So saying he thought he was gone before they got there, isn't a big step.  The death certificate lists the time of death as announced by the physician.  NOT the speculated time of death.  So if he had been dead for weeks but only found on 6/25/09, his certificate would still say that he was pronounced dead on 6/25/09.

However, his death certificate is marked ER/OP and not DOA
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 11:44:48 AM
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2)Whoever worked on him when they got there, would be able to tell if someone was "gone" by their body temperature and whether or not rigor mortis had started to set in.  So saying he thought he was gone before they got there, isn't a big step.  The death certificate lists the time of death as announced by the physician.  NOT the speculated time of death.  So if he had been dead for weeks but only found on 6/25/09, his certificate would still say that he was pronounced dead on 6/25/09.

However, his death certificate is marked ER/OP and not DOA


"Dead on arrival or DOA is a term used to indicate that a patient was found to be dead upon the arrival of professional medical assistance, often in the form of first responders such as emergency medical technicians, paramedics, or police. In some jurisdictions, first responders must consult with an online physician before officially pronouncing a patient deceased, but once cardiopulmonary resuscitation is initiated, it must be continued until a physician can pronounce the patient dead."

"Legal definitions of death vary from place to place, for example irreversible brain death, prolonged clinical death, etc."

Taken from here:  http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_on_arrival

If this is true where they were at, then a physician would have to pronounce anyone DOA.

There were initial reports on CNN that Michael was in a coma and/or on life support before announcing that he was dead.  So even if this guy Jeff thought he was "gone" when they showed up(maybe blue-ish lips and/or colder body temp., etc) but his body was able to be rescucitated or kept alive on life support once he was at the hospital, then he would not be DOA since he was able to be rescucitated even if it was briefly.

I don't know what their legal definition of death is either.  If he was able to be rescucitated but had gone without oxygen for so long that he would have been a vegetable, he would not be DOA and it would be up to his family to decide whether or not to pull the plug.

I'm also thinking that again if this is true, then there could have been some legal hold up since there was supposed to be a "doctor" in the room with MJ at the time of his cardiac arrest and he wouldn't sign the certificate.

I'm only trying to see all sides and get to the bottom of things.  That 911 call still sounds like total BS to me and makes me doubt his "death"...
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 02:00:11 PM
i recently did a basic life support course.. (for my job) and i asked the trainer even if someone is obviously dead i don't mean stinky and decaying i mean that they have died do you still work on them..

the answer i got was YES.. unless you know yourself that you cannot physically do CPR then it is to be attempted.. especially being a paramadic on the scene..

the thing that threw me about her post is why would she need to mention they all had camera phones.. that seems irrelivant to me..

on another note.. don't wanna sound disgusting but remember the bed photo taken by the family!! well i've been thinking about this, and it still had the sheets on etc before they took them.. and an obvious sign of a heart attack is loss of bowel control!! hence a lot of heart attack victims are found on the toilet.. this isn't speculation either its a fact.. not sure in every case.. but definatly a factor of a heart attack!!

oh one more thing.. if this he had been dead for a while the sheets definatly would have been stained with body fluid leakage!! i have had experience with this!! and there was none on that picture!!
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 02:34:44 PM
My two cents:

"They went to the UCLA medical center with him and had to stay quite a long time"
Since when do paramedics stay in the ER and/or hospital for hours after they have delivered the patient?  Why did he have to stay there?


Why the clumsy back out of the drive way when there's a roundabout on the property?

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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 02:38:28 PM
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i recently did a basic life support course.. (for my job) and i asked the trainer even if someone is obviously dead i don't mean stinky and decaying i mean that they have died do you still work on them..

the answer i got was YES.. unless you know yourself that you cannot physically do CPR then it is to be attempted.. especially being a paramadic on the scene..

the thing that threw me about her post is why would she need to mention they all had camera phones.. that seems irrelivant to me..

on another note.. don't wanna sound disgusting but remember the bed photo taken by the family!! well i've been thinking about this, and it still had the sheets on etc before they took them.. and an obvious sign of a heart attack is loss of bowel control!! hence a lot of heart attack victims are found on the toilet.. this isn't speculation either its a fact.. not sure in every case.. but definatly a factor of a heart attack!!

oh one more thing.. if this he had been dead for a while the sheets definatly would have been stained with body fluid leakage!! i have had experience with this!! and there was none on that picture!!

I have to disagree with you.  My dad had a massive heart attack and didnt lose control of his bowels.  The reason many people die on the toilet is because the "strain" triggers off the heart attack.  Disgusting but true.
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Re: Paramedics Wife Talks...

  • on: January 22, 2010, 04:02:37 PM
But it wasn't a heartattack though, if you go by reports, it was cardiac arrest which is not the same thing. I saw an interview with a doctor about the difference. I don't know if that changes any of your theories just thought I'd add that
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