TIAI UPDATE #1: HIGH PROBABILITY OF MJ “RETURN” THIS MONTH!

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Great News!!!  There is a real good chance that this is the last TIAI update which will be needed, before MJ is ready to “Return”!  Please read this carefully, and encourage other hoaxers to read it, so that we can all be ready for the big day.

This is the first update to the 9-part series titled TIAI Revealed; if you have not read those yet, you won’t be able to follow this update very well.  Here is a link to read the 9-part series: {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/search.php?author_id=1440&sr=posts}.

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1-1. Outline for TIAI Update #1

1-1. Outline for TIAI Update #1
1-2. The Timing of TIAI Update #1
1-3. What Does the Username “TS” Stand For?
1-4. Why Do You Believe the Hoax?
1-5. TMZ Knows About the Hoax
1-6. MJ Death Investigation Complete
1-7. Why Would the “Return” Depend on Hoaxers?
1-8. TMZ News and Clues Related to TIAI
1-9. TIAI and STUDY Predictions that Came True
1-10. Review of Evidences that TIAI is Genuine
1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example
1-12. MJ Was a Jehovah’s Witness
1-13. MJ’s Religious Beliefs After 1987
1-14. J.W. Influence Even After the MJ “Death”
1-15. Some of the J.W. Beliefs
1-16. The New World Order?
1-17. The End of the (New) World (Order)?
1-18. The End of This TIAI Update

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1-2. The Timing of TIAI Update #1

Quoting from TIAI Revealed, Part 1: “For the most part, I will not be involved personally in the discussions; but I will occasionally answer objections to what I am revealing now.”

I knew that there would be objections; and (as stated above) I was planning on giving time for people to read all 9 parts, and let the dust settle, before responding to anyone.  In fact, some hoax believers were able to answer many of the objections, without any direct help from TIAI—which shows that in many cases the truth is not so hard to find, if you really want to know it.

Now, there has been time for the dust to settle.  And in fact, the date today is 1-11 (TII movie was 111 minutes long); also, today is one week until 1-18-10 (MLK day), and two weeks until 1-25-10 (seven months since “death”).  So as you can see, it was already planned for today to be the next TIAI update.  Further below in this update, we will look at the importance of today’s date being the planned day for the next update.

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1-3. What Does the Username “TS” Stand For?

As far as the person(s) operating TIAI (dot-com): many people are not concerned who it is; they just see the importance of the message, and the evidence that it is genuine, and that is sufficient for them.

Others have tried to name a specific person behind it—such as Marlon Jackson, or someone with the personal initials of “TS”.  If it really is Marlon, then surely TIAI would be genuine; however, even if I claimed to be Marlon, this would not prove that I really am Marlon.  This is why I asked people to go by the evidence that the information is genuine, and not by my claim of who I am or where I got the information.

On the other hand, if I claimed to be someone with the initials of “TS”—this would not prove that I really have those initials; in fact, it wouldn’t even prove that I am not Marlon!  And even if I really did have these initials, how could that be any evidence whatsoever that TIAI is or is not genuine???  And yet several have dismissed TIAI, merely on this idea that I have these personal initials!

For the sake of argument, let’s assume that I do have these personal initials—and if this fact became known, then that alone would prove TIAI to be a fake.  Do you suppose that if this were actually the case, I would be so careless as to use “TS” for a username???  After all of the time and thought that was put into TIAI and STUDY: would “TS” thoughtlessly be picked for a username, if it would (supposedly) prove that TIAI is fake?  Have any of you TIAI objectors stopped to think about how flimsy your objections really are?  And by the way: did any of you sharp investigators notice that “TS” is an abbreviation for T-IAI and S-TUDY??

Several people misunderstood the following statement, which was in TIAI Revealed, Part 1: “I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you.”

The point here, especially taken in the wider context, is that I am not asking anyone to believe the information based upon my claim of who is behind TIAI, and/or where the information came from.  For example, if I claimed to be Marlon, many would not believe that I am Marlon just because I say so.  The words “many would not believe me if I told you”, refer to the previous phrase: “how I got this information”—it is not the information itself that many would not believe, if I told you where I got it.

So once again, the information itself has abundant evidence in the 9 parts, that the information is genuine; so any claim of where I got it is not needed.  What is needed, however, is a clear understanding of the evidence which does show the information to be valid.  This evidence was understood fairly well by some, but almost completely overlooked and ignored by others—including some who said they read all 9 parts.  I have to wonder how quickly they skimmed over it.  So in this update, I will go over the evidences that TIAI is genuine; many of these will be repeats taken from portions of the 9 parts (which quite a few people missed and/or ignored), but there will also be a few new ones.

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1-4. Why Do You Believe the Hoax?

It’s true that a few things can happen by random coincidence; but when they keep piling one on top of another, that’s when you say it can’t all be a coincidence.  In fact, this is one of the main reasons why so many believe in the MJ hoax—because there are too many “coincidences”.  And if you are going to dismiss all the TIAI evidence as merely “coincidences”: then why don’t you dismiss the MJ hoax “coincidences” as well?

So we will review the TIAI (and STUDY) “coincidences”, all of which are backed up with very solid evidence.  For those who want to continue opposing TIAI, you are more than welcome to do so as long as your opposition is based on solid evidence—not mere ridicule, or shallow complaints, etc.  And also please step up to the plate, and explain all of these “coincidences”—instead of just ignoring them, and pretending that they don’t exist.  And if you think anything is incorrect, then please document why it is wrong.  People shouldn’t be expected to trust what you say, merely because you say it—anymore than people should be expected to trust what TIAI says, without solid evidence.

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1-5. TMZ Knows About the Hoax

Many hoax investigators already recognize that TMZ knows about the hoax.  Nevertheless, for those who aren’t aware of this (and a review for those who are), let’s go over the evidence of this here.

TMZ was first to report the “death” of MJ, ahead of anyone else by seven minutes {http://http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-jackson-media26-2009jun26,0,1993773.story}—even though they are “Celebrity Gossip” news (in their own words).  And even though they were first to report the “death”, and have reported many things about MJ and the “death” since then—yet today, more than half of a year later, they still haven’t filed MJ’s “death” under the official list of celebrity deaths {http://http://www.tmz.com/category/r-i-p/page/2/}.

But TMZ has done a very large number of “exclusive” reports on MJ; if you read these, you should recognize that many of them are either clues for hoax investigators, or decoys for the media and general public.

For example, on 7-7 (July 7) TMZ gave a clue about the 7 year “coincidence” from the will to the memorial {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-will-death-coincidence/}.  And on the same day, TMZ listed several of the other “coincidences” with MJ and the number 7 {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-7/}.  And remember that it was 77 days (inclusive) from the death to 9-9-09, and 7days (inclusive) from the burial to 9-9-09.  {http://http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=14}.

Recently, TMZ gave a huge clue with the following statement: “Much like 2Pac, Michael Jackson has no problem releasing new music, even though he’s ... ya know, dead.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/03/michael-jackson-lenny-kravitz-leaked-song-another-day/}.  All MJ hoax investigators immediately recognize that 2Pac is heavily associated with the “death faker” concept—and yet, to make it even clearer, TMZ went right on to infer that MJ is not really dead: “even though he’s ... ya know, dead.” (the “…” ellipse here is in the TMZ article, indicating that they are leaving something unstated about the MJ “death”).

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1-6. MJ Death Investigation Complete

I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve.  I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.  But I’m not merely saying this just because it didn’t happen in December; instead, I give you the evidence of this.

Christmas was too soon after TIAI was revealed—it was not enough time for people to read the 9 parts, digest them, object to them, let the dust settle, and then respond to the objections (such as this update), etc.  And if you carefully read TIAI Revealed, Part 6: you can see that the evidence there was pointing to 2010 for an MJ “Return” (and most particularly, January).

If you go to the “TIAI Revealed” user page on YouTube {http://http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed}, you can find the following brief announcement under the Channel Comments: “Thanks so much, all you soldiers of L.O.V.E.  Keep checking ThisIsAlsoIt(dot)com, I will have an update soon.”  This was posted on Wednesday, January 6, 2010—as can be seen by the “# of days ago” in parenthesis (soon it will change to the “# of weeks ago”; but even then, you can watch for the day of the week when this changes, to verify when the comment was posted).

This update that you are reading now, is what that announcement was referring to; and this entire update is all about the MJ return (probably in January).  The timing of this update (today is 1-11) was already planned before the January 6 announcement—which should be obvious by the fact that it is a numerology date (111), and also exactly one week before 1-18 (MLK), and two weeks before 1-25 (7 months since the “death”).  The subject of this update was also planned before January 6—which should be obvious by the facts just stated (1-18 & 1-25), as well as the fact that in TIAI Revealed (Part 1) I specifically said that I would “answer objections to what I am revealing now [on 12-21-09].”

What is the significance of this timing?   Why am I showing that both the timing and the subject of this update was already planned, even before the YouTube announcement on 1-6-10?  Because only two days after my YouTube announcement, TMZ made the biggest announcement since June 25, 2009 (and it was another one of those many TMZ “exclusives” on MJ).

Michael Jackson Death Investigation Complete
The LAPD investigation into Michael Jackson's death has been completed and the case will go to the D.A. within weeks … we're told it will happen in a matter of weeks.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/michael-jackson-conrad-murray-death-investigation-lapd-manslaughter/; see also MJalive999 video, http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO6Kc2jbH1w; http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/08/murrays-new-lawyer-i-know-propofol/; http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/11/dr-conrad-murray-too-early-to-deal/}

Wow!  This Is It!  We are down to the final curtain call, here.  Soon and very soon, either Murray is going to get the book thrown at him; or else MJ is going to return “within weeks”, and Murray will not be in hot water—either way, the end of the hoax is near (as I said in TIAI Revealed, Part 8).

This huge TMZ clue, and the huge 2Pac clue from TMZ (mentioned above), both came a few weeks after TIAI was revealed—when there had been time for people to digest it, and when many had accepted it (and joined the Army of L.O.V.E.).

Now let’s look at the strong evidence of MJ returning on January 18 (or possibly about one week later—which would be 7 months from the “death”, and also is when the DVD comes out).  First of all, the TMZ “within weeks” statement above points to something happening soon and very soon.

Next, January 18 is the MLK holiday—which of course ties very directly with the MLK statement in the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”.  Do you remember that this song was the only one from the TII rehearsals that was played on the media, after MJ “died”?  Don’t you think that this was a big clue about the purpose of the hoax?  “In what will go down in history as the greatest demonstration for freedom ...”  And do you remember that this was the very last TIAI redirect, before TIAI was revealed?

Exactly two months before January 18 (on November 18, 2009), TMZ posted the following: “Jackson Investigation Mystery Date
Big clue in the Michael Jackson investigation -- the LAPD detective leading the probe indicated January 18, 2010 may be a significant date.  Detective Orlando Martinez asked a Las Vegas judge this AM to keep search warrant documents related to Applied Pharmacy secret until January 18.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/11/18/michael-jackson-dr-conrad-murray-lapd-investigation-applied-pharmacy-search-warrant-las-vegas/}

This would’ve been after the TII movie came out, and in fact after the TIAI redirects were already in progress.  This was a “Big clue” about a “significant date” and a Jackson “Mystery Date”!  Why would January 18 be a day when search warrant documents would no longer be “secret”?  That day is a holiday!  Why wouldn’t they say that the documents would be de-classified on January 19 (which is not a holiday, and when things would not be closed for the holiday)?  January 18 is a holiday right after the weekend, so it should’ve been either January 15 or January 19—unless of course this was a “big clue” about a “significant date”, a “mystery date”, when MJ would return!   (P.S.  On January 18, don’t forget to check TMZ!)

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1-7. Why Would the “Return” Depend on Hoaxers?

Several have asked: why would the timing of the MJ return be dependent (at least partly) upon few thousand hoax believers, and their understanding/accepting the TIAI information?  A simple answer is that the reaction of the few before the return, can be a pretty good indicator of the reaction of the many after the return
{http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1991}.

But think about it.  After returning, MJ can speak publicly about the environment and other issues related to healing the world; but with some aspects, well I think you can figure things out.  As soon as MJ returns, there will be a stampede on all the hoax forums; there will be tens of thousands, or even hundreds of thousands, suddenly interested in what we have been investigating and saying all along.  So if we hoax believers now are united on the reasons for the hoax: it will be much more effective when others come asking questions, than if we are all confused and disagreeing on the reasons for the hoax.

Here is how Mo put it: “It's a process to make people AWARE of what is going on. If you don't research, read, learn and understand, you won't become aware. If S.T.U.D.Y., TS or any Anonymous poster would have told you plain out who he/she is and where all the info he/she has came from, you would not have read the full explanation and wouldn't have learned anything.  TIAI pointed out to conspiracies and NWO, and those issues were rejected by a lot of people until TIAI pointed out to them. Me? Guilty as charged... I skipped the ‘Illuminati’ threads as well until TIAI forced me to look into this whole issue. After researching it, and not reading up on the conspiracies and NWO only, a lot of things became clear to me.” {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1936&start=75}

So if there are any questions or objections that I have not addressed in this thread, please post them in the replies below; and I will answer them directly right here in the replies (I will watch this thread pretty closely, for the next week or two, and respond to things as needed—so as to help clear the way as far as possible for a speedy “Return”).

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1-8. TMZ News and Clues Related to TIAI

In addition to what was already mentioned above (about TIAI update announced two days before the investigation completed announcement): there are other cases where the TMZ news and clues came shortly after TIAI—which shows that TIAI was not copying TMZ.

The TIAI reveal on 12-21-09 was announced on 12-15-09 {http://http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed}; this was a few days before TMZ announced that the MJ FBI files would be released on Monday 12-21-09 {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/19/michael-jackson-fbi-file-released/; it did get delayed until 12-22, http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/21/michael-jackson-fbi-extortion-attempt-child-molestation-release-snow-storm-washington-documents/}.  There were 333 FBI pages released, which is the difference between 666 and 999 (the Dangerous autograph code).  For those who are new to this 9-9-09 numerology, I will have an updated version of it in the next few days {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=14}.

Speaking of 9-9-09, the redirect for 12-16 & 12-17 was “99”—which was 99 days from 9-9-09 (inclusive on the 16th, and standard on the 17th).  99 is also 9 + 9 = 18 (January 18, MLK day); and then two days later, on December 18, TMZ posted this video of LaToya Jackson Christmas shopping (although posted on the 18th, she did the actual shopping on the “99” redirect day).  At 0:47, the camera points to a “9.99” price tag for about 5 seconds {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/12/18/la-toya-jackson-chris-brown-tiger-woods-target-christmas-holiday-shopping-video/}.

Another TMZ “coincidence” was on 12-8-09.  This was the middle of the conspiracy / NWO section of redirects (part 7); and it was also one day after the Google search redirect with Pearl Harbor (12-7) & 911, etc.  On December 8, TMZ had six different articles with “911” in the article heading {see TIAI Revealed, Part 7}.  Occasionally, TMZ has one or two articles with “911” in the heading on the same day; once in a rare while, three.  But whenever was there six different “911” articles on the same day?  And remember, six is the number of the NWO (conspiracies), the beast (666), etc.

Back on November 23, the TIAI redirect was the People magazine article about Conrad Murray.  But the redirect was done the night before, as usual, late November 22 (California time).  After that redirect, on the 23rd, Conrad Murray was mentioned repeatedly in the TMZ news {see TIAI Revealed, Part 6}.

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1-9. TIAI and STUDY Predictions that Came True

On November 5, TIAI pointed to the “V for Vendetta” page on Wikipedia (not a movie trailer, or YouTube showing of it, etc).  This was sadly fulfilled by the Evan Chandler suicide.  This news was reported on November 17, which was also the 70th anniversary one night showing of “The Wizard of Oz”.  But TIAI redirected the night before, as usual, and pointed to a Wikipedia photo with the Yellow Brick road and Emerald City behind.  This photo came from the Emerald City page on Wikipedia, not the Wizard of Oz page {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emerald_City}.  What are the odds that the E-van C-handler news came out on this same day, and had the same initials as E-merald C-ity, all by coincidence?

Yet another “coincidence” is that TIAI pointed to the “2012” movie trailer, more than a week before the MJ parallels were made public.  And is it just a coincidence that the TIAI domain name, with all these predictions coming true, is operated by STUDY—which also had several predictions come true?

STUDY predicted, more than a month before “This Is It” was seen by the public, that the MJ “resurrection” scene would not be at a funeral with MJ coming out of the casket; instead, it would be a graveyard scene (see TIAI Revealed, Part 6).  This came true, with the graveyard and spider “resurrection” scene during Thriller 2.

How did STUDY know that there would be any MJ “resurrection” scene at all?  Several people were expecting a resurrection scene in TII from the setting of the burial at Forest Lawn (MJ hopping out of the casket).  In fact, when I first made my MJ resurrection prediction, it was before the TII trailer was released—so the public didn’t even know if there would be any Thriller 2 or graveyard scenes in the movie at all, much less any MJ resurrection scene!

Another STUDY prediction was that “This Is It” would reveal the hoax, which it did (lack of MJ R.I.P., or any mention of his death; Smooth Criminal hoaxed death; MJ BAM statement after the credits; etc).  Some interpreted “reveal the hoax” to mean that MJ would “Return” to public knowledge at that time; and although this was possible, it did not happen.  But I used “Return” for that concept; and indeed the DVD version of TII uses the very same word, “Staging the Return”!  {http://http://www.thisisitmovieondvd.com/—then click on “Special Features”}

If all this is coincidence: how is it that STUDY is also the one who decoded the 1998 MJ autograph codes, the 77 days from death to 9-9-09, the 7 days from memorial to 9-9-09, and predicted the 9-9-09 connections with TII a couple of days before 9-9-09?  {http://http://mjkit.forumotion.net/the-numbers-theory-for-all-theories-regarding-the-numbers-theory-f58/from-mjhd-excellent-the-9-9-09-prediction-did-come-true-this-is-it-settles-the-question-is-mj-alive-t1766.htm; http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewforum.php?f=14}

Since some of you are new, and/or did not read the STUDY predictions before they came true: so I asked those who did remember these things, to post their testimony; and here are some quotes, from old MJHD members.

“I remember very clearly S.T.U.D.Y' s predictions and posts on the old MJHD....and they did happen.  I doubt it is someone yanking our chains....I would be paying attention.” {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=27&start=1200; Adi}

“TS has left us clues to things BEFORE theyve happened....not like on LKL blogs where they give clues to things AFTER they have happened.” {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=2013; The Jacksonologist}

“I very much enjoyed all of your post on MJHD, everything that you stated above regarding all of your previous post are true.” {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924&p=27558#p27558; Mish1981}

“Yes I rember you study and yes you did predict everything ahead.” {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924&start=25; misha86}

“So yes, i remember them very well and all what you are saying here i remember!
i even posted something under one of the treads, on the old MJHD, as proof that i'd read it before, the prediction came true   unfortunately, that's all gone now.. but not out of my head!” {http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=72&t=1924&p=27558#p27558; francisca81}

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1-10. Review of Evidences that TIAI is Genuine

Since many people didn’t get it last time (in the 9 parts): let’s go over very briefly some of the more significant TIAI and STUDY “coincidences” (actually, evidences that TIAI is genuine).  They are numbered, below.

#1. MJ investigation complete, only two days after TIAI announced this update.
#2. 333 pages of FBI files, planned release on same day as TIAI Revealed.
#3. $9.99 while LaToya shopping, connecting with “99” days after 9-9-09.
#4. Six 911 articles on TMZ, the day after TIAI conspiracies on Google (911, etc).
#5. Murray on TMZ news four times, the same day as the TIAI Murray redirect.
#6. Vendetta on 11-5; Evan Chandler / Emerald City on 11-17 (70th anniversary).
#7. 2012 trailer, a week before “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels came out.
#8. TII Resurrection scene in a graveyard (not funeral & casket, etc).
#9. TII would Reveal the hoax (Smooth Criminal, no RIP, BAM statement, etc).
#10. TII would show the MJ “Return” (this very word is now on the DVD).
#11. 1998 autograph codes; 77 days & 7 days all pointed to 9-9-09, and was fulfilled by several TII and MJ related events.

Can any of you TIAI opposers show evidence like I have above, that you know more about the hoax than this—in advance?  Can you explain how these “coincidences” all happened?  And in fact, can any of those on the internet claiming to be MJ—or an MJ inside informer—can any of you show a history of accurate predictions like this, or even half as many?

Or can anyone show that either TIAI or STUDY ever said anything that was inaccurate?  Or ever predicted anything that did not come true??  If so, please post it in the replies below.  And if not, then why all the opposition?

Yes, as I said in TIAI Revealed (Part 6): STUDY did predict the MJ return at Halloween.  And indeed, I tried hard to prepare hoax believers for that to happen; but it did not happen, at least in part because MJHD was forbidding discussion on the very subjects that needed to be understood (conspiracies, NWO, etc).

Furthermore, as I said in TIAI Revealed (Part 6): TMZ news about when the Murray investigation would be completed, has always been a clue about the timing of the MJ return.  Now that TMZ has said the investigation is complete, we can see this fact even clearer.

And last fall, these TMZ clues were clearly pointing to the MJ return around Halloween; so, once again, the MJ return had to be delayed.  Clear back on September 16, 2009, TMZ reported: “Jackson Probe Coming in for a Landing  Law enforcement sources tell TMZ the Michael Jackson homicide case will be presented to the L.A. County District Attorney in 3 to 4 weeks.  We're told the lion's share of the investigation has been completed and Dr. Conrad Murray remains the singular target.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/09/16/michael-jackson-probe-coming-in-for-a-landing-conrad-murray/, exclusives}.  Then on October 8, 2009, TMZ reported: “… the investigation into MJ’s death should wrap up next week -- and Murray is still the sole target.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/10/08/doctor-conrad-murray-michael-jackson-bench-warrant-arrest-child-support-court/}

Here we are again.  Fortunately, though, this time around we have made some progress.  MJHD is no longer banning important MJ hoax topics.  TIAI has increased awareness of these same important topics.  And TMZ has gone a step further in the Murray investigation report; TMZ now says that it has actually been completed—instead of saying it will be completed in a week (like they said last fall).

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1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example

Although the majority of comments about TIAI have been very positive, yet there have been several complaints and objections that need to be addressed.  But before getting into any further details, let me tell a short story.  Whether it is true or not isn’t important—the point is still the same; nevertheless, it was told to me as a true story.

The Lynyrd Skynyrd band was eating in a restaurant one day, when someone put money in the jukebox and picked “Sweet Home Alabama”.  Then the band chimed in, and started singing along.  Soon the man who paid for the song on the jukebox asked them to stop singing, because this was his favourite song—and he wanted to hear the real band singing it, not them!  The band kindly stopped singing; but when they were leaving, they asked the waitress (who knew that they were Lynyrd Skynryd) to let the jukebox man know who they really were—once they were gone.

I think that the point to the story is obvious.  Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think.  In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!

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1-12. MJ Was a Jehovah’s Witness

A very common complaint about TIAI, was that it’s too religious—and/or that it’s just someone using MJ and the hoax to push his own personal religion on MJ hoax believers.  With “Sweet Home Alabama” ringing in our ears: let us examine both of these complaints.

First of all, only 5 of the 49 redirects were Bible verses—that is only 10%.  And when I asked for people to “make that change”, and start with the “Man in the Mirror”, I did not even mention any specifics; I left it up to your own person convictions.  So how could that be me promoting my own personal beliefs?  

Furthermore, I did not promote any specific religious organization.  I am not personally a Jehovah’s Witness, and I am not trying to promote the Jehovah’s Witness organization (WatchTower) and/or the entire Jehovah’s Witness belief system.  Nevertheless, I do believe some of the Witnesses doctrines.  And many of you know already, MJ was JW an official member until 1987 {http://http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/experiences/michael-jackson-jehovah.php}.  Frequently, he would go door to door—even while touring.  Sometimes he would wear a disguise, but not always.  With no disguise, people would often ask him if anyone ever told him that he looked like MJ—and he would say “Yes, I hear that a lot!”

At least here in the United States, Witnesses often “witness” more than any other religion—when religious people knock on your door, it is probably the Jehovah’s Witnesses.  So MJ was very religious!  In fact, look at what he put on the Thriller video: “Jackson, who at the time was a Jehovah’s Witness, added a disclaimer to the start of the video, saying: ‘Due to my strong personal convictions, I wish to stress that this film in no way endorses a belief in the occult.’” {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thriller_(music_video); http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=odpIiPsI1tw}

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1-13. MJ’s Religious Beliefs After 1987

What about when he disassociated himself in 1987, was that because he didn’t want to be religious anymore?  No, according to LaToya, it was more about how the WatchTower leaders treated him and especially his sister (see Growing Up in the Jackson Family, by LaToya Jackson
{http://http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0525933433?ie=UTF8&tag=3buxnet-20&linkCode=as2&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=0525933433;
http://http://download-gate.com/download.php?file=Growing.Up.In.The.Jackson.Family.Online.Full.rar; http://http://nowdownloadall.com/servers.asp?pb=2&PID=a4cbc22f-8255-46d8-a593-00a8bbf38121&lbd=1&ts=1/8/2010%209:40:21%20PM&q=growing%20up%20in%20the%20jackson%20family%20online&cr=1}

Many of MJ’s songs have a religious message, songs both before and after 1987, including “Man in the Mirror” (which actually first came out in late 1987).  So just because he left the WatchTower organization, doesn’t mean he stopped being religious.

In fact, he didn’t celebrate his first Christmas until six years after leaving the Witnesses {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ycuZXKqdZE}; and even then, he had mixed feelings about it (the Witnesses don’t believe in celebrating Christmas).  Obviously, then, MJ did not immediately abandon all Jehovah’s Witnesses beliefs when he resigned.

Almost twenty years after leaving the WatchTower, Michael spoke very highly of his religious upbringing (which was as a Jehovah’s Witness).  “Caring, and reading the Bible; learning about God, Jesus, love.  Jesus said bring on the children; imitate the children, you know, be like little children.  And to take care of others—take care of old people.  And we were raised [as Jehovah’s Witnesses] with those values; those are very important values.  And my family and I; we were raised with those values, and they continue, strong in us today.” {2005 Geraldo interview, start at 3:43 http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wul1SuWxwIg}

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1-14. J.W. Influence Even After the MJ “Death”

This does not mean that Michael still holds all of the same beliefs that he had in earlier years.  But on the other hand, he does still have some of those beliefs.

The MJ will, signed seven years before the memorial, states: “If any of my children are minors at the time of my death, I nominate my mother, KATHERINE JACKSON as guardian of the persons and estates of such minor children.” {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/07/michael-jackson-will-death-coincidence/}.  As you probably know, Katherine is one of the very few family members who is still a member of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

TMZ, who has inside information about the Jacksons, said “Multiple sources in the Jackson family tell us even if Katherine Jackson gets custody of Michael Jackson's kids, Michael's big sister Rebbie Jackson will raise the children.”  {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/23/michael-jackson-rebbie-jackson-kids-paris-michael-jr-cutsody/}.  Rebbie is the only other immediate family member, who is still a Jehovah’s Witness.  And surely you have all seen the picture of the children attending the Jehovah’s Witness Kingdom Hall.  {http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/15/jackos-kids-let-us-pray/; http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALpSFo0WEhE}

The private memorial on July 7 has been referred to as a “Jehovah’s Witness Ceremony” (with Jehovah’s Witness family friend, Wendell Hawkins, addressing the guests).  However, it was not an official Witness ceremony.
{http://http://www.people.com/people/package/article/0,,20287787_20290557,00.html; http://http://ex-jw.com/two-funerals-michael-jackson;
http://http://www.michaeljacksonhoaxdeath.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=64&t=1237&sid=2c7bb40c62dcbb6207e885edaa22dfeb}

If MJ were really dead, we might think that these things were done without his knowledge or approval; since he is alive and directing behind the scenes (Liberian Girl), we know that MJ himself is still at least somewhat favourable towards the beliefs of the Jehovah’s Witnesses.

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1-15. Some of the J.W. Beliefs

Well then, since Michael Jackson still holds some of the Witness beliefs: is it possible that some of these beliefs are found in This Is It and/or This Is Also It?  Yes, it’s not only a possibility, it’s an actual reality.

Jehovah’s Witnesses are concerned about the environment, including specifically
“The Rape of the Rain Forests” {http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/19980508/article_01.htm}.  They also believe that the earth was once covered by a literal global flood (Noah and the ark), as recorded in Genesis {http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/20080601/article_01.htm}; and this belief was mentioned in TIAI Revealed, Part 9.  Additionally, the Witnesses are concerned about secret societies, which was a major subject in TIAI.  {http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/19970601/article_01.htm;
http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/19970601/article_02.htm;
http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/t22/article_01.htm}

Last but not least: Jehovah’s Witnesses believe that we are living in the last days—the end of the world.  Some even believe in the specific year 2012, though not all; but they do all believe in an end-time apocalypse and Armageddon scenario.  {http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/20080401/article_02.htm;
http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/20051201/article_01.htm}

In fact, this belief is so important to them, that “Are We Living in the Last Days?” is currently the top article on the home page of the official WatchTower website!  {http://http://www.watchtower.org/;
http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/bh/article_09.htm;
http://http://www.watchtower.org/e/200804/article_02.htm}

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1-16. The New World Order?

This subject generated responses from one extreme, that the New World Order (NWO) doesn’t even exist—and in fact can’t possibly exist—all the way to the other extreme of: “We’ve known about the NWO for decades, so TIAI was just a waste of time.”  Well guess what: both of these two extreme complaints can’t possibly be true!  And in fact, neither of the complaints are valid.

Even if all hoax believers already understood the NWO/conspiracy aspects (and many did not, before TIAI): still, the redirects and explanations of them (TIAI Revealed) are not just for hoax investigators now—they are also for the MJ fan stampede, which will surely hit the hoax web pages once the MJ return occurs.  Furthermore, there has been a major awakening on these subjects since the start of TIAI—not only on the hoax forums, but also on YouTube and other websites.  The MJalive999 video on TIAI part 1 now has more than 16,000 views! {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeFpn45po5A}

For those who thought that the NWO doesn’t even exist (because if it did, they would control the internet—and we wouldn’t be able to find any information about them): the NWO is very powerful, but not all powerful.  There are still many good people in powerful positions in this world; in fact, there are some good people in the secret societies (although in the lower levels, where they don’t really understand the agenda of the upper levels).

None questioning the existence of the NWO bothered to step up to the plate, and explain why there has never been any video of an airplane flying into the Pentagon.  If this doesn’t convince you of major conspiracy in our own government, then nothing will.  And if you are convinced of this, then you can be certain that the NWO is very real and very powerful (USA being the most powerful government on earth); and in fact George Bush Sr. is the one who announced the “New World Order” (see again the EndGame trailer in TIAI Revealed, Part 3).  Neither did any NWO skeptic bother to explain why JFK Jr’s fuel selector was shut off, during his plane crash.

Do MJ and Jehovah’s Witnesses believe in conspiracies and the NWO, etc?  Yes, they do!  In fact, MJ specifically put the JFK conspiracy in his 1995 “Tabloid Junkie” song (which is actually about lies in all the media—not just tabloid media): “JFK exposed the CIA.  Truth be told the grassy knoll” {http://http://www.lyrics007.com/Michael%20Jackson%20Lyrics/Tabloid%20Junkie%20Lyrics.html; http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tabloid_Junkie}.  You see, MJ was showing that JFK was killed for exposing conspiracies in our own government (CIA).  And the “truth” about JFK is the “grassy knoll”, which is the conspiracy version of the killing—not the government’s “lone gunman” theory {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lone_gunman}.

When MJ was talking in “This Is It”, about the 4 years: he said don’t wait for the government.  And in the song “They Don’t Really Care About Us”, the word “they” is not primarily about the media.  {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r75j3f-IOs4; http://http://www.tmz.com/2009/07/29/mj-friend-he-almost-died-during-trial/;
http://http://mjkit.forumotion.net/breaking-news-f3/michaels-late-night-voice-mails-said-he-was-scared-for-his-life-t1686.htm;
http://http://michaeljacksonhoaxforum.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=1634}

The banned version of the video is about prison {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAi3dJIJwgI}—and who runs prisons: the media, or the government?  The other version has MJ singing “you can never kill me” {at 1:05, http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNJL6nfu__Q}; and this is while he’s standing beside the NWO all-seeing eye, that is also on the back of the USA one dollar bill (which says Novus Ordo Seclorum under the eye, and is Latin for New World Order {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Novus_ordo_seclorum}).

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1-17. The End of the (New) World (Order)?

As we already saw above, Jehovah’s Witnesses do believe that the end of the world is near.  Different people have different ideas about what will take place at the “end of the world”; but many Christians and even other religions believe that something major is very near.

MJ himself was very clear about the 4 years; and even if it was only the environment (and he never said that the 4 years is only about the environment): it would still be the end of the world, if the damage to the environment becomes irreversible.

Also, the “2012” movie came from Sony—just like “This Is It”; and Tommy Mottola is no longer with Sony {http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tommy_Mottola}.  The “2012” movie came out right after “This Is It”, and the “Jackson” and many other MJ parallels in “2012” are not just coincidence.  Therefore, MJ does believe that the end of the world is near.

The original “2012” trailer had a message at the end, recommending people take it seriously and not just fiction: “Find Out the Truth  Google Search: 2012” {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKbEI8pDz0A}.  Currently, if you type a “2” into the Google search window (or YouTube), the very first suggestion is “2012” (and about three more suggestions below have “2012” in them).  This means that a lot of people are searching for truth about the end of the world.

Yes, there are scientists who say, “Don’t worry about the end of the world”.  But there are also well-known sources who say that it’s a realistic possibility.  For one, the History Channel takes 2012 seriously; it shows multiple prophecies and factors pointing to the end of the world in our time—some of which even point specifically to 2012 {http://http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iloM0vjEAMY}.

Many people are refusing to believe in the end of the world, merely because they don’t want to believe it—not because it isn’t true (or a lack of evidence).  But who are the bigger fools: the ones who believe and are ready, yet it does not come—or the ones who don’t believe and are not ready, and then it does come??

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1-18. The End of This TIAI Update

If you don’t want to believe in the end of the world, and/or you don’t want to be religious: that is your right; Michael respects your right, and God respects your right.  However, just because you have a right to be non-religious, does not mean that Michael is not very religious.

Do not dismiss TIAI, under the claim that it is too religious, merely because you yourself are not religious.  If you can document that what I have presented is not what MJ believes, then please do so; but if not, then don’t say that TIAI isn’t Michael’s message (unless of course you’d rather listen to “Sweet Home Alabama” on the jukebox).

And now to wrap up this long update, with a few closing comments.  There has been a suggestion that my motive for TIAI is money; at some point I will supposedly ask MJ fans for money, maybe even asking people to pay for Michael to come back.  This idea is absolutely out of touch with reality.  There are a lot of scams out there, which you do need to be careful about.  But the minute TIAI starts asking for money, you will be welcome to dismiss TIAI and everything about it.  It’s all for L.O.V.E., not money!

Someone else suggested that the redirects merely continued until I got bored, then they ended.  This in spite of the fact that they clearly ended on a planned date, 12-21 (three years from 12-21-2012).  It was also on the 21st of the month (7+7+7 = 21), and TIAI Revealed was the 49th redirect (7x7 = 49).  Furthermore, the whole thing was well organized into 9 parts (9-9-09); the first 2 parts were introductory, and then 7 main parts about the redirects.  Does this sound like it was a random ending, when I got bored?  Or was it all planned?

Several have said things such as this: “He did not give any concrete evidence of how he knows that Michael is alive besides the clues from TII which we had already discussed about and were aware of.”  I can only say to people like this, please read the 9 parts again; and this time, pay more attention when you are reading.  I gave abundant evidence that I have repeatedly known things about the hoax in advance (things that others did not know); and I also repeatedly stated that MJ is alive.  If these things don’t qualify as “concrete evidence”—then what would?  Anything???

Many people on the internet have done a good job of picking up the TIAI message, and running with it—for which I am thankful.  For your information, though, the other internet sites are not run by http://http://www.ThisIsAlsoIt.com; the only other site I operate is http://http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed.

Please encourage other hoaxers to read this update, especially the ones who have doubted or even opposed TIAI.  Because once the opposition to MJ’s message has gone away, then MJ will be ready to “Return”!

Finally, several times I have been accused of manipulation.  As with most words, manipulation can have more than one meaning; but it has been used in a negative sense.  So with a negative meaning, we find definitions like this: “to control or play upon by artful, unfair, or insidious means especially to one’s own advantage
{http://http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/MANIPULATION}.  Can the complainers bring any evidence whatsoever that I’ve been “unfair”, “insidious”, and/or done anything to my “own advantage”???

What I have done, is worked hard to promote truth about MJ: “the truth will prevail”!  I’m only trying to help spread the truth, Michael’s message, and help people be ready for the end of the world—nothing more, and nothing less.  If that is a crime, then I will be the first one to eagerly plead guilty.
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Offline EternalMichael

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TS, I want to thank you very very very much for your help !
I'm really impressed. what a great work !
I followed all the TIAI redirects, I studied each of them. but I admit that without you, I would probably have been completely lost in the investigations.
Plus, I don't have a lot of time to reseach on things find, so again Thank you !
I have to read this post again to get everything clear (it's so long ! my brain shakes...)
Thank you sooooo much.
Love,
P...
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Dear TS,

  Thank you so much for this update! I have been praying for more info from you, and my prayers were definitely answered. I appreciate all the time, love and effort that you have put into this for us. I tried to thank you personally for the reveal you did in Dec. but the messages are still sitting in my outbox. I guess this means that you don't accept private messages. Anyway, thank you for recognizing my efforts and understanding in your reveal posts. I still feel very strongly compelled to follow this through. I'm hoping that the "end" will just be the end of the world as we know it, followed by us creating the world we want. Love has the highest vibration of all, and with it all things are possible!

  Sending my love to you, Michael, and all my brothers and sisters on the planet, Time is of the essence, let's Make That Change!

Love, Respect, and Gratitude,
Carol aka Touched By An Angel
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Offline JadeHealTWorld

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Dear TS thanks so much for this new Update .

We are spreading His Message & I am ready !
Michael always will have my Total support

With L.O.V.E. Jade
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" I\'m going to search for my Star until I Find It. It\'s is Hidden in the drawer of Innocense, wrapped in a scarf of Wonder . Find your Star and throw it up to Heaven. You still Have it, don\'t You ?"

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Dear TS,
I am SO GLAD you posted this update  :)  I am one of the old members that remember you from MJHD and I've always had the feeling you could be trusted. I trust you and I agree with all your points here. I am ready and in full support, ready for him.
I found very interesting what you write about JW, I agree completely; and about coincidences, well, yes, one fact could be a coincidence, but there are too many to believe they are only coincidences, that's what made me believe it was a hoax at the beginning of the investigation.
Plus you always said things and explained them, you never made a sensational announcement without giving us an explanation, you just go deep into things and that's why you gained my trust. I don't really care who you are, I don't even want to know, it's not important in my opinion.
L.O.V.E.
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you are my life


speechless, that\'s how you make me feel

I want a hippopotamus for Christmas

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God, I really needed this update from you, TS !
After all recent events in some hoax forums, I've been asking mysefl where you have been...
I trust you and I was waiting for another post...so, thanks a lot!
Thanks for all the explanations, these are not coincidences to me, there are too many of them!
You also did a great job with the numbers....7, this is very impressing...
Plus, don't forget the TII red shirt with the '777' on it! I always thought it had to mean something...and in those months, a lot of 7s came to us as clues...

L.O.V.E. !!!!!

Ps: Touched By An Angel, welcome back...it's good to hear from you again!!!  ;)
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i really hope that u r proved right & the king returns. although i didn't like ur 2012 theory but still i like your army of love campaign. i joined it in dec. thanks for updating
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we are ready!
thanks TS..
it's all for LO.V.E. ....
we are waiting for start...
let's make a change...

"...we love you more Michael, you have to know that , really..."
Mary
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Very very impressive! what a well thought through and clever campaign this is.
I am ready, and will do everything i can to spread the message.
I was aware of NWO long before all this. Already discussed this with other believers before TIAI started.
It was hard, so many dismissed it, it was to deep for most. I truly hope many have woken up by now!
This totally is the Greatest Demonstration for Freedom in the 21st Century! (If i said History i would not do justice to MLK, JFK, Ghandi, Bhuda, Jesus, John Lennon etc. HAH!)
LOVE and PEACE to all, always!
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Thank You TS!!!
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Ohh God I'm crying so bad at the moment. Can I be happier than this? Thank God that he's coming back finally! Ohh MICHAEL WE'RE READY TO SPREAD LOVE TO THE ENTIRE WORLD BABY, JUST COME AND LEAD US! YOUR ARMY OF LOVE IS READY! WE'LL BE WITH YOU ALWAYS!

P.S: Thank you so so much for all the things you have done for us TS! God bless you all.

LONG LIVE THE KING!!!
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Thank you T.S. for your comprehensive and crystal clear message!

Greetz, Mo
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Thanks T.S! :D
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Thank you T.S, We are ready whenever Michael is coming back!
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only a word..  Thanks  :P
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I am seriously stunned by the amount of work you've done!
I hope people will see now that you are genuine, thanks for again a clear and brilliant post!
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Solo una parola : COMPLIMENTI
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Thanks T.S :D and
Thanks Michael :D for not giving up  :D
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27th of this month is my birthday. OMG what a birthday gift it would be if he comes back this month! :D I LOVE YOU MICHAEL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!
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I'm happy that he is alive.... that is all.
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WOW, GREAT WORK!
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thanks T.S.
I am ready!!!!
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That is great news!!! ;)
Thanks TS for everything! :)
btw, i just noticed i'm mentioned in the post! ;) that's cool! lol
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i dont really know what to say right now......
thank you for your post, i hope you are true...
we are ready for his return, we need his return...
he needs us and we need him. i love you michael
and stand behind you as we all will...
please help me understand one thing, i dont understand
the reference with evan chandler and emerald city.. are
you saying he didnt die?? i am soo sorry i dont understand
it. in essence you are saying that it is we that have kept
the return from happening.. maybe now everyone understands
his message and he can come back to us all... i am sorry michael
that some have not gotten the message,please forgive us..
L.O.V.E. always..........
i love you all..........
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this is probably the best post i've ever seen on any hoax site! thanks so much for posting it. i hope michael knows that many of us have embraced your message, especially about the NWO/illuminati stuff. of course there will always be someone to reject, but you did an excellent job getting your point across and making people find the truth themselves.  :D
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Thank you TS, your post is one of the most positive news I've read since June 25th.

Now, if YOU are reading this:  I beLIEve and I'm ready. I love YOU.

Michela
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It would be wonderful if Michael returns this month. But if he does, the fact that you've written about it today in this post will be nothing more than a mere coincidence.

Said differently, I still don't buy into the TIAI agenda, although I do give you -- whoever you are -- a little credit for stringing so many words together.
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Thank you very much for this post TS!

while i read it i had the feeling serveral times that you were the real MJ, in sentences like:

"Do not dismiss TIAI, under the claim that it is too religious, merely because you yourself are not religious. If you can document that what I have presented is not what MJ believes, then please do so; but if not, then don’t say that TIAI isn’t Michael’s message (unless of course you’d rather listen to “Sweet Home Alabama” on the jukebox)."

or when you explain that MJ was going door to door when he was WJ..

i don´t want to know if you´re really MJ, i just know that i have felt like if MJ talk to me.
I love you MJ
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BIG THANK YOU FOR THIS POST!!!
I'M A  LITTLE HAPPY RIGHT NOW...
I WAS HOPELESS FOR A WHILE...
REALLY THANK YOU!
MJ I LOVE YOU! WE WILL BE THERE!!! :D
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Michael is a very brave person to be taking such a risk, if all of this is true.  The elite who see themselves as being in charge of the world will not like Michael trying to awaken  everyone as to what is really going on.  I had a conversation about this very subject with someone and they said, "How do you know he's not on their side?".   A valid question, obviously, if we are to believe their influence is as great as they would want us to think.  They don't want us to know what's going on, yet they want us to be scared of them and what they are capable of if we don't fall in line.  For me, it's a matter of believing that Michael is truly a GOOD person, plain and simple.  His message has always been of love and he has faith.  Why would he be on "their" side when they've done all they can to destroy him?  Michael, I really think I understand why you had to fake your death, you need as much attention as possible to say what you need to say and hopefully, have people understand as well.  You're an amazing human being and it's about time that everyone finally sees that.
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Oh my gosh TS, today I told my siblings all about TIAI after studying it intently myself the past weeks!! I hadn't told them yet and today I did and now this! I pray that it happens, I feel it just might!! Oh, Michael....! Whoever you are, TS, thank you so much for all your hard work, thank you so so much for opening our minds even further- I never doubted this for a moment- and I still think you're Marlon, you don't have to tell me for me to believe it.. ;)
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As I said in the other forum, I choose to listen to the guys in the restaurant sing Sweet Home Alabama over the jukebox...;)
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This was the first night I slept well since almost 7 months.
Because I have never encountered before such a tremendous effort to make beLIEve.
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Create your day. Create the most astounding year of your life. Be the change you want to see in the world! L.O.V.E.
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******* Let's tear the walls in the brains of this world down.*******

Time to BE.

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Thank you TS for your truly amazing post. I have been aware of the Illuminati/NWO for several years. I have carried a placard and demonstrated against the the Security and Prosperity Partnership Of North America which is the precursor to the creation of the North American Union. I have been distributing information through social networking sites and youtube for several years, on all sorts of issues including The Codex Alimentarius, The UN, Corporate Control of Government, media and so many more topics relating to all of this. I have been called all sorts of names including crazy but I have held fast to what I know to be truth. I am honoured to realize that I AM NOT ALONE and am ready to stand next to Michael and follow this through to the end.

Michael thank you for being the unique, gifted, caring and loving individual that you are. Your sacrifices and courage a true inspiration!

Pauline

PS: I followed TIAI everyday, frequently posted it first on the site. I analyzed and researched those clues to the best of my ability....and I never doubted it for a minute!
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Ok.
Now I need to take a deep breath and calm down. We must think about in what all these revelations have done for us. I can only speak by myself.
Since a long time I have my inner feelings about Michael alive. But I could only feel secure when I started studying TIAI. The truth is that every little thing in this universe is deeply connected. And we can share our feelings and thoughts fastly when we find those who share the same energy. Equals used to get together naturaly. And this is what happened to us. We are here because we share the same love.
Last days I was feeling sad. TIAI has been a great support and I was waiting anxiously for updates. And here I am.
Just wanna say thank you. I'm lost in words, since I get really emotional with these posts.
And yes, speaking by me, I AM READY. And feeling some people with the same connect here, I can say: WE WILL ALWAYS STAND BY MICHAEL.
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thank you for this information, and for the wonderful work you have provided in recent months, I am now calm and serene, my life has changed with the comlmetement hoax, so ... I thank Michael for all he has show, and all of you for having opened my eyes, I now find the largest family that is in total love, I could dream more! I love you all
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Thanks a whole bunch TS.
Rodger that I'm onto it like sauce on a hotdog, I'm so excited I just did the happy dance! I will tell all my BeLIEver friends I have heaps and heaps now so I'm gonna be real busy , (I can be very convincing  :D ) Ive always wanted to articulate the 'WHY/MESSAGE/TRUTH"  a whole lot better than I'm doin at the minute, now I can just pass them onto you, cause you do it way better than me :lol:.

I do like your story about Lynrd Skynyrd it made me smile I sure hope it gives certain people some "awareness and awaking" in regards to Mr Jackson and his message. I got your back on that one TS. I have visited this site everyday for a long time now and I rarely post but I must say this, it has been disappointing noticing people left, right and centre passing judgements on Mr Jackson and his family like they go waaaay back. I understand that everyone has a right to their own opinion but lets not forget what brought us all together in the first place and why. :D
Sooooooooo Proud and Honoured to be a party of MJ'S Army spreading the Message and L.O.V.E
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I would first like to apologize for not always being able to follow TIAI's theories. I often got criticized in the past when I asked for clarfication about things.  I had suffered some brain damage years back and comprehension/cognition is not one of my strongest assets these days.   :?  I am thankful for today's post because it was written with more clarity in my opinion and I understood much of it.

Please allow me to wonder out loud, because I am feeling a bit overwhelmed.  If this is all true, and it sounds pretty darn credible to me, I wonder if when Michael does come back -- will he write a book or do a movie about the hoax ?  So many people are missing the "message"; don't even beLIEve it, and wouldn't have a clue about the reasons behind it even if they did think he faked it.  Will Michael EXPLAIN everything in an effort to reach more people and clarify all of this for us at some point?  And if so, in what manner?  Through songs, interviews, a documentary, etc?  Also, what about all of our endless questions..."Was Michael DaveDave on LKL?"  and so forth.  Will he answer these? How will he deal with any real anger that is thrown his way over this?  issues of criminality?  Other than helping the sheeple to wake up, were there other reasons behind this hoax?  i.e. the lies of the media, the exposing of the Hollywood DrFeelGoods, etc?  Some folks think Michael might've been in danger.  Will he clarify all of that too for us?  Will he tell us who knew about the hoax all along, besides his family, etc?  

I sure hope so, IF he plans a return as TIAI claims.  If no return, then he owes us nothing.  In any case, the world DOES need to wake up.
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Thank you so much for all of your insight and guidance throughout this. It's much appreciated. I know that I would not have fully understood everything without all of your posts and everyone putting their heads together. My eyes have been opened to a lot of things I never payed attention to before, so thank you for that as well.

L.O.V.E. to you all!
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All I can say is WOW....WOW...WOW!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you STUDY/TS/whoever "you" are.....you even quoted me!

I always followed TIAI from the very first redirect...it just made my radar go up and I knew it meant something.
It helped me learn and realise SO much I can't begin to explain or describe.
Like I said I always followed your posts on the "old" MJHD.
I am so looking forward to the next phase to to help and support Michael in whatever way I can!
I am in the Army of LOVE.

I choose the real thing over the Juke Box!!!!!

Thank you Michael. I am looking forward to someday 'seeing" you.

LOVE Adi
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there is another Mj related story on tmz
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/13/accusatio ... -giraffes/
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First I wanted to say, thank you for this eye opening post!
I really appreciate all the hard work you've done before you posted this.

However, there is still 1 thing I don't understand.(I'm sorry but you have to know that I'm NOT trying to attack you in any way this is just something I don't understand)
It's about the end of the world (or 12-21-12)
It was based on the Maya calendar, right?
It has been on the news that this date wasn't correct but a "math error".

http://http://www.bautforum.com/archive/index.php/t-95902.html


A little searching on Andreas Fuls' name found this (http://http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/episode/2012-countdown-to-armageddon-4438/maloof-maya-calendar) from National Geographic (apparently related to a TV program they have coming up).
But the Maya calendar, built on intricate observations of the moon, planets and stars, had only been linked loosely to the Julian calendar by Spanish priests attempting to interpret the oral history and traditions of extant Maya. In other words, the Maya calendar may have been very accurate internally, but very inaccurately correlated to the Julian calendar and our timeline of climate change and European history.

Andreas Fuls from the Technical University of Berlin was one of the scientists I spoke to during the production of the show, and he applied a quantitative approach to the problem by running thousands of computer simulations that shifted the Maya calendar recorded in the Dresden Codex up and down the Julian calendar until the errors between astronomical observations in the two calendars was minimized.

The result is a ~200 year error in previous attempts at correlating the Maya and Julien calendar! With the new correlation that at least Andreas Fuls believes would be more correct, it looks like the serious droughts of the A.D. 800s did NOT cause the demise of Mayan civilization and the end of the 13th Baktun and therefore the calendar would not occur until 2212! Not every Maya scholar shares Andreas’ opinion but if he was right, I guess National Geographic will have to make another film about the Maya in about 200 years!


Again, big thank you for your post and for the explanation of a lot of things I didn't understand!

With love, "MissyB007"
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WHY can't I get into the forum to read the post anymore :?:  :!:  :evil:
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Thank you so much TS. I've been very emotional these last few days and I'm crying now. Tears of joy. I'm ready for whatever is coming and I'll be right there by Michael's side no matter what. Thank you for being a messenger, TS. God bless you in everything you do.

Michael, I'm so proud to say I love you. And I'll be patiently awaiting your return.

~ Lizzie <3
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I\'ve enlisted in the army of L.O.V.E.
We\'re here for you, Michael. No matter what.
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Quote from: "mjlovebug1"
there is another Mj related story on tmz
http://www.tmz.com/2010/01/13/accusatio ... -giraffes/

Very heartbreaking.  :cry:
Forgive me, but didn't we hear something along the lines of this when reports of Michael's cause of 'death'/autopsy first came out?

"We suspect foul play with the giraffes. There is no other explanation for their deaths. There is currently a police investigation going on. Someone has hurt these giraffes, they were healthy."

TS, is this another clue too? I'm not sure what to make of it.
Again, thank you for everything.

Love you more Michael! <3
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~ Michael Jackson - Moonwalk


I\'ve enlisted in the army of L.O.V.E.
We\'re here for you, Michael. No matter what.
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Well, I'm back after one day and I just read once more the whole topic :)
I'm so happy!

I focused on the title (yesterday I was too excited to do it :lol: ) and noticed this is just the 1st update from you, Ts...there will be more, Am I right?

Then you talked about  MJ "RETURN", which means we will probably have a BIG CLUE or EVIDENCE in January, not necessarily a real comeback :)
that's fine :), we are ready whatever happens, we all stand in the Army of L.O.V.E.

Michael, we love you, you have to know it!  ;)  8-)
Just breath in your own time before the BAM

Many thanks again, Ts !
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I'm anxious for Michael's return so we can all start spreading his message to the masses  8-)

Soldiers of L.O.V.E, get ready.
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I read the whole post once again, yesterday I was just too excited !
I think it's very important we, hoaxers, try to understand Michael's message and purpose clearly and deeply: he needs to know we'll be able to handle all the people that'll land on the forum after he comes back, he needs to know his message hit us, he needs to know we'll be his Army of L.O.V.E.
Even if you are not religious or if you doesn't know much about JW I suggest you to click the links TS gave us, it's important to understand the way Michael was raised up and what he believes, it's very important.
Michael, I love you more.
Take your time, when you're ready I am here for you :)
 L.O.V.E.
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Not sure if anyone has mentioned this but it is Martin Luther King Day in the United States on January the 18th. Martin Luther King III spoke at the memorial and MJ mentions Martin Luther in his song 'They don't care about us' ... maybe this is significant to a MJ return date on Jan 18th?
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mj33, it has been mentioned previously and I'm glad you caught that  :D
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Wow...I don't know where to start!!

I just want to say THANK YOU so much TS for all your hard work and for being our messenger!! ;- ))

I have to admit that with your help I get it now finally!! Before Michael left us, I listened to his music and supported him through everything he went through (mainly the trial, never believed the accusations for a second). But I never REALLY listened to his songs or messages. I wasn't aware of the NWO or all the other things that Michael had went through (except what the media told us). It's true how you can think you know someone and in reality you know nothing at all. I, have to say I am ashamed of myself for being so shallow and selfish to have not been aware of the things going on around me. I have been guilty of being a media beLIEver and am so glad my eyes have been opened!! Thank you Michael, for loving our planet and all of us so much, & for all the sacrifices you have made to wake us up!!  Michael, I love you with all my heart & soul and am so proud to be a soldier in your Army of L.O.V.E! I have been so blessed to have had you in my life for over 40+ years and look forward to fighting with you for however long we have left on this earth. I just hope you know how special and important you are to so many of us and we are all behind you 1000%. We appreciate your bravery, convictions, your pains, and your BELIEF in all you do....THANK YOU!! WE LOVE YOU MORE!!  ;- ))

Forever & Always a Soldier in Michael's Army of L.O.V.E.!! :- ))

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TS thank you for your hard work, i just found out about TIA 2 days ago and i know that i would never have understood any of it if you had not laid it out for us.
i have been into the hoax for many mouths now and i have seen a lot and even help some hoaxers on the way.
i do believe that this is the work of Michael or done by someone that is with Michael , however if this is not, still this person has open up our eyes to so many things. i believe that if we tack note of the things that have be reveled then we will know how to stop it before it happens.
Michael i you ever read this i pray that you are safe and i want you to know that you have my support no matter what


ps sorry but I'm not that good of a speller
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TS,  Amazing.

Michael, Can't wait for your return!  Your soldiers are waiting with L.O.V.E.
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Dear TS, we are ready for his comeback and we'll do our best for him, if it needed.
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These days I was thinking about MJ:
how I missed him...
how I need him...
how I love him...

I need him like air to breath.

Soldier of Army of L.O.V.E.
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Thanks for taking the time to explain to those who believe in TIAI, and those who do not believe. We hope the return of Michael and we support it wholeheartedly :lol:

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Thank you from the bottom of my heart for the immense work of TS, I read word for word, I printed all to read carefully and store in the archive of my mind.
There is a lot of attention now sull'hoax death of Michael Jackson, even by those who refused to believe ...
'm Happy and excited, but stick to your guns to be able to wait more than any date mentioned.
The important thing is that Michael is doing well, is getting the rehabilitation of his honor as a man and musician!
We are all ready, we believers, to train his army of love and stay with him forever.
It's All for Love!
Every country, every government has to deal with this army which enlarges its ranks will not be easy to dismantle corrupt systems and every citizen will do his part for his country ... like so many drops, in their own sea to meet the Ocean!
It 'All For Freedom, Justice, Equality!  :)  :D
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I'm Alive, I'm Live, I'm A Lie...

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Thank you, TS!
I hope people see the reason of the HOAX.
(we are not here fighting for his return, we are here fighting for our freedom ...
sometimes this s so frustrating ...)

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if this full text is tiring to read, help us and spread this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcN5-hPcwBc
are 5 ...   Make an effort and read ;)
rememeber Its all for L.O.V.E :)
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Thank you so much TS. You have put so much effort into what you have given us.You have been thorough and concise. You have opened many people's eyes, who would not have taken any of this seriously otherwise. I have known for several years about the truth of our world and have been very concerned about people not wanting to see the truth for themselves. I have been waiting for something dramatic to happen over these years and then along comes Michael. He is a true hero. His bravery and courage astounds me.
Michael could never have been able to expose this safely, while known to be alive. This really is the only way.
I am certainly ready for whatever Michael has lined up for us. However and whenever, I trust you, Michael :D  
Love to all xx
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Thank you TS,
 I personally am not concerned about MJ coming back to the Entertainment Industry. I just want him to have joy, peace and happiness with his children and loved ones. I have been praying for him all of this time and will continue to do so. Keep the Faith!
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:shock: WOW TS! You really have make a well done work.. Thank you for everything :D
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Just another thought about Jan 18 Martin Luther King Day that may have already been mentioned.

twitter account: midnightmlk (http://twitter.com/midnightmlk)

could it mean MJ will comeback midnight on Martin Luther King with  'mlk' being an acronym for Martin Luther King...
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Thx Ts ! I hope this is true !

I SUPPORT MICHAEL FROM THE BEGINNING ! Let's get started to change the world  ;)
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Thanks T.S. and thanks Michael for this wonderful and unique experience.
This is so great can come only from the mind of a genius and a huge heart. I'm so excited! I hope this is just the beginning, we must try to do many things.
Soldiers of love are ready, we are waiting for our leader  ;)

A lot of love from Spain.
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Another great post...I always look forward to you....so much evidence


But idk if mike is coming back...I'm not getting my hopes up although my granny owes me 5 wwhen he does come back....

But here is my question? Will tmz post a link 2 the site or will the sites name change to bring in more people? And is the site going to be used to spread the message?
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I'm repeating a fragment of my comment on http://www.youtube.com/user/TIAIrevealed:
THISISIT...TS,
I'm grateful to stay here reading & understanding your message! (still studying all words)
This is all I need to wait...only pray&wait. I hope so MICHAEL can be well, safe, peaceful, he deserves it so much & he is VERY STRONG!!
Michael is in my life a long time,I loved ever listening Michael & his L.O.V.E songs that ever made me cry....

Well, to finish, please remember all people:
"In our darkest hour
In my deepest despair
Will you still care?
Will you be there?
In my trials and my tribulations
Through our doubts and frustrations
In my violence
In my turbulence
Through my fear and my confessions
In my anguish and my pain
Through my joy and my sorrow
In the promise of another tomorrow
I'll never let you part
For you're always in my heart"
I'm here MICHAEL JACKSON despite, because, although, altogether, ever with YOU, waiting you, ONLY YOU!!
It's all for L.O.V.E. & the best is yet TO COME!!  I   B E L I E V E !
I'm ready to support & to welcome you when you believe be the great moment.
FOREVER MY KING!
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"Before you judge me, try hard to LOVE me."
"I am happy to be alive!I am happy to be who I am!

"Do not judge a man until you\'ve walked 2 moons in his moccosins"
"Beat me.Hate me.You can never break me, will me,thrill me!You can never kill me!"
"They ain\'t seem nothing yet & the best is yet to come!"
THIS IS IT - IT\'S ALL FOR L.O.V.E.

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TS or whatever your name is; ya know, it doesn't matter to me because I can just tell that it's consistently been the same person. And YOU ARE a caring, empathetic being who obviously has Michael's best interests, with the utmost respect for his mission in mind. I really don't understand why you bother defending your facts and efforts.
  Interest in the MJ saga, since 6-25 requires a lot of research & reading w/respect to the time-lines of events throughout Michael's life in relation to course of events since 6-25.
   I've noticed that though it's fascinating & easy to get distracted; go off on tangents from his lyrics to his purpose, from his personal bio to his family's deliberate (and sometimes not) reactions to this & on & on. ..meanwhile, many people just skim stuff and make assumptions w/out thoroughly reading ! Just lazy or want to take short cuts; whatever. So, please don't even let the disagreements bother you.
   I haven't always agree some of your correlations of subject mattes yet I do not deny facts. And I certainly don't criticize you for your views. What would be the point. I studied symbolism & also use my knowledge constructively. I things much differently than others just like anyone else.
    Thank you again, by the way . . . . . . .
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We need to give Michael a living legacy of true honor.
"Stand-up, stand-up" to clear his name.
Isn\'t this the least we can do for him ?

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I personally read all 9 parts, only to find out that I was familiar w/about 75%. That's OK. I didn't feel like I wasted my time at all. It's a lot of info. & I needed to review some.
  I've just trusted my leads & so on. Michael gave me this faith, some how, some way. It's been a beautiful adventure despite discovery of more evil, self-serving people that MJ welcomed in his life, the pain of re-visiting that horrid time in his life of over 15 yrs ago and the re-occurring thoughts of how much he must miss Prince, Paris & Blanket.
 The only thing that has really bothers me is the increased gossip, bickering & arguing over MJ and info. about him out here. I am trying to just chalk it off as people picking up on the discord in the world & unconscious frustration of uncertainties regarding his "death".
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We need to give Michael a living legacy of true honor.
"Stand-up, stand-up" to clear his name.
Isn\'t this the least we can do for him ?

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I received a message from him at sunday!
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Thank you TS!!
I am looking forward to this and am ready to be a soldier of LOVE! Already started that!

I love you Michael Jackson and I support you no matter what!
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thank you so much TS, for all of your information and yes iam telling everyone to start believeing in mj , god bless you TS. spread the L.O.V.E. love you michael.XXX
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Thanks TS for your honesty and for explaining your goal.
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("Minkin güerveeeee")
Michael pls come back


"Why a four-year-old child could understand this hoax. Run out and find me a four-year-old child. I can't make head nor tail out of it"

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Thank you TS for the amazing research and explanation of TIAI.  You remind me of STUDY in your writing style, thoroughness, specificity, and abundance of evidence to back up your claims.  Well done.

I feel recharged in my hopes that Michael is out there somewhere preparing to put all of this behind him and make a new start.  I pray for him that the world will understand him.  But mostly I pray that he will live his life the way he has always wanted.

I love you Michael, wherever you are.  I am ready when you are.
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Thank you TS for your highly thought out and informative post.  I can tell that a lot of work and effort went into this explanation.  For me, the TIAI redirects served to expand my awareness of what was/is going on around me and also served as a reminder that love, although not a cure all against evil, is a great weapon to steadily chip away at the evil that surrounds us.  So, thank you for all your hard work, and please stop trying to defend yourself, people will always believe what they will.  There will come a time when they will understand that you are not trying to convert or manipulate but to share, inform, and educate.  Stay your course and disregard the distractions.  As for MJ's return:  Whatever will be, will be.  Peace, Love, Happiness.  One Love.
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thanks
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Thank you TS, my birthday is on the 18th so MJ returning would be a lovely present but any day for his return suits me   :)
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Okay, I've been thinking about this A LOT and have been keeping updates on the conditions in Haiti. My thoughts and prayers are with them. I will do whatever I can to help. My question is, will this possibly affect the "return?" Is Michael doing anything to help? Well, I'm sure he is. But could he delay the big return because this disaster has struck?

And one more thing, I'm starting to feel that we really are in the "end times." Don't label me crazy. I'm very sane actually. But...I don't doubt Michael has known this. We need an awakening now more than ever. It's crucial.

Michael, we're here no matter what. We must come together as one to help this planet and these people, if they cannot help themselves already.  

Army of L.O.V.E.
Light up the darkness. <3
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"When I feel that something is not right, I have to speak up. I know most people don\'t think of me as tough or strong-willed, but that\'s just because they don\'t know me."
~ Michael Jackson - Moonwalk


I\'ve enlisted in the army of L.O.V.E.
We\'re here for you, Michael. No matter what.
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Quote from: "francisca81"
That is great news!!! ;)
Thanks TS for everything! :)
btw, i just noticed i'm mentioned in the post! ;) that's cool! lol
know it brings me up to this page today
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Dear TS - (TIAI)
Thanks so much for all Your effort and hard work and making it clear for all to understand!! You are a star and for all Your dedication to the cause!!( I also wondered does Michael read these posts? as with what You said that we need to get everyone on board reading and believing, will Michael read these to know what support he has? like has he been reading this site all along? like he was reading Cassandra and Derek Clontz?) so sorry for the questions just a thought . Thanks again TS!!
Thank You so so very Much what amazingly great news I believe in MJ's return and this makes my heart race!!  I am all the way from Dunedin New Zealand  My name is MIchelle Wilkie and I have been proud right from the start to say I believe in MJ and all he stands for!! I believe and as Michael said it's up to us , we can't wait for them and who are them/they?? we have to make that Change and Heal The World and be The Army of love for Michael and the World and believe and have faith, keep the faith and be strong in our union of love, much love !! We have to think for ourselves like MJ said!! I found this quote a wee while ago that You and others may like, even MJ himself -
                                    "Any frontal attack on ignorance is bound to fail because the masses are always ready to defend their most precious possession- their ingorance.
   -Hendrik Willem Van Loon, Dutch - American journalist and lecturer(1882-1944)

I thought this is great as like You and MJ, we have said things like  facts and conspiracies etc we have found out and researched about so many, along the lines of what You say MJ is communicating with us and You get a straight out 'no! oh no the government wouldn't let that happen or it must be safe if the government approves it. and also as soon as something is published in print or Television any mainstream media - they are convinced that it's true, like You have mentioned with no proof , just because the governement says or it is now in mainstream media!!
So I just want to say I believe in You MJ and Your cause and dreams and visions!! I share in Your dreams and visions, as I too dream of healing the world and making it a better place for all!! and a man of Your esteem is so truly amazing to take this on and I am here for You, with You  100%%- more if needed!! ( I wrote You a letter 'In letters to Michael 'Under We love You Michael' ) so I just want to finish with I believe Michael in You and  'I love You  More' so much more and I am so truly here for You always and forever!!
thanks TS - TIAI for all You have done and given us I am grateful and it is with great excitement and anticipation I wait with love in my heart always and forever- for you Michael!!
'Love You More' MJ! and take care !! Keep safe and I send You so much love, light and strength of mind and body!! Much Peace also!!
Yours truly always and forever and ready to take Your vision on!! I belong to 'Your Army of Love' and am ready to help and do what it takes!!-  what You believe  and are telling us !! I Love You More Michael!! I mean that I truly do!!
all my love and hugs
Michelle Wilkie
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Thank you. That's it!@ :)
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Sadly I can not write in English, so I will say a few words but I would like to thank all you are doing for us fans.Io are ready to support Michael and his message with all the love I feel for him, for a better future us all.

for Michael   :P
Michael sweet I tell you many things but I can not express myself in English, I would like to thank you for everything you have done and are doing for us. You are always in my heart and in my mind. I fully share your thoughts and will always support you. I love you so much and I hope to see you again soon beautiful and serene as you deserve with so much love around you.

a thought to all the people of Haiti who are now suffering   :(     sorry for my english

L.O.V.E.  from Italy!
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Thank you TS for a great work!!!
I don't know who you are...but it doesn't matter. The important thing for us is to let Michael know that we are ready, that we support him. I know that he will reach this massage.
This is a soul to soul talk...so...
Hello, Michael!
Maybe when this Hoax will be over, internet will not bring us so close anymore. It is sad, but the wish to see you well again is stronger. For all my life I wanted to meet you, to talk to you...usual fan's dream...but the world is bigger than it seems to be. It didn't work for me to do this.
I take now, maybe my one life chance...to talk to you...to say...Thank you, darling for bringing shine into my life; thank you for beeing always near. I was blessed having a friend like you!Thank you for all your work! It's magic!
I want you to know that I'm here for you now. I am ready. I need you to come back...we all do...This waiting is painful, but i know it worths it.
You now...I LOVE YOU............no, I LOVE YOU MORE!!! :)
Please, give us the chance to see you again!
your friend, with L.O.V.E...
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Ok...After reding TS's new update, I  feel it's necessary to clarify some aspects here :)
I must tell u all that I am not bashing TS''s analysis!

TS said: I quote : "So once again, the information itself has abundant evidence in the 9 parts, that the information is genuine; so any claim of where I got it is not needed. What is needed, however, is a clear understanding of the evidence which does show the information to be valid."
This update that you are reading now, is what that announcement was referring to; and this entire update is all about the MJ return (probably in January)."

"Wow! This Is It! We are down to the final curtain call, here. Soon and very soon, either Murray is going to get the book thrown at him; or else MJ is going to return “within weeks”, and Murray will not be in hot water—either way, the end of the hoax is near (as I said in TIAI Revealed, Part 8)."

"I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve. I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.

But TS also sais ( repetedly ):

"And is it just a coincidence that the TIAI domain name, with all these predictions coming true, is operated by STUDY—which also had several predictions come true?"

STUDY predicted, more than a month before “This Is It” was seen by the public, that the MJ “resurrection” scene would not be at a funeral with MJ coming out of the casket; instead, it would be a graveyard scene."

"Another STUDY prediction was that “This Is It” would reveal the hoax, which it did (lack of MJ R.I.P., or any mention of his death; Smooth Criminal hoaxed death; MJ BAM statement after the credits; etc)".


..." can anyone show that either TIAI or STUDY ever said anything that was inaccurate? Or ever predicted anything that did not come true?? "

SO....LET'S ANALIZE ALL THIS !
1. We have INFORMATIONS - wich according to TS/STUDY is genuine and valid!
WHT is the definition of information ?
Information is a message received and understood. Is a quality of a message from a sender to one or more receivers. Information is always about something. Viewed in this manner, information does not have to be accurate; it may be a truth or a lie, or just the sound of a falling tree. This model assumes there is a definite sender and at least one receiver.

2. We have PREDICTIONS :
Wht is the definition of prediction?
A prediction is a statement or claim that a particular event will occur in the future in more certain terms than a forecast.
Predictions have often been made, from antiquity until the present, by resorting to paranormal or supernatural means, such as prophecy or by observing omens. Disciplines including water divining, astrology, numerology, and fortune telling, along with many other forms of divination, have been used for centuries or even millennia to predict or attempt to predict the future. So far, these means of prediction have not been substantiated by controlled experiments, and are disputed by scientists and skeptics.

Based on wht we have, the simple questions that comes my mind are:
Does TS/STUDY has received these informations from a sender?? Is TS/STUDY the receiver of the informations he has shared with us, using those redirects??
Or TS/STUDY is making predictions?? Is TS a prophet and shares with us wht he "feels" will hapen in the future with the Hoax?

I feel it's important  for us to know wich one from these 2 options is the real/right one!
Can anybody please answer my questions?

Now, in the end,  I would like to share my own personal prediction  ;) about the Return date
( based on my 6th  very strong sense  :)
The return I don't "feel" will  be on January 18th! This is not the moment for the big BAM!

That's all for now and hopefully u guys won't "crucify" me bcz of  my opinins about this thread!
Thank u :)
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Quote from: "astrid jackson"
I received a message from him at sunday!


 :?:  :!:  :?:
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Thank you so much TS.
I am ready  ;)
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L.O.V.E.
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27th of this month is my birthday. OMG what a birthday gift it would be if he comes back this month! :D I LOVE YOU MICHAEL FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART!
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ahhhh!just imagine that  8-)
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This whole time I've been searching for something to hold onto. Some sort of truth as to *why* this was being done. Since reading this, I have gone into almost like a trance. It all make sense to me now. It's all much bigger than I thought. What if Michael as the "King of Pop" really is done making music, and his mission when he returns is to help bring the TRUTH to life and bring people hope. If these are really the "end times", which I think is very very likely, then it would all make sense. Every single thing. The paralells in "This Is It" and "2012". I wouldn't be surprised if Michael helped produce "2012". I'm rambling. Cannot focus. I feel it coming though. I have been awakened that is for sure. I hope the big "reveal" is soon, even though it's going to cause a lot of chaos and confusion at first, at least I will know I am not crazy like everyone in my life is telling me. I'm so tired of feeling so strongly about something and being told I'm nuts. This is not about me though. In fact it's not even all about Michael. It's about LOVE. God is love. And Michael is his messenger, I truly believe that. NOT saying he is jesus or an angel, I just believe he was chosen to warn us, I really do. I pray for Michael even more now, if what I feel is true is really true, he is so much stronger than I could have ever imagined and I pray for myself to have even a fraction of that strength. The truth will prevail. The time is coming. Does anyone else have goosebumps?
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This whole time I've been searching for something to hold onto. Some sort of truth as to *why* this was being done. Since reading this, I have gone into almost like a trance. It all make sense to me now. It's all much bigger than I thought. What if Michael as the "King of Pop" really is done making music, and his mission when he returns is to help bring the TRUTH to life and bring people hope. If these are really the "end times", which I think is very very likely, then it would all make sense. Every single thing. The paralells in "This Is It" and "2012". I wouldn't be surprised if Michael helped produce "2012". I'm rambling. Cannot focus. I feel it coming though. I have been awakened that is for sure. I hope the big "reveal" is soon, even though it's going to cause a lot of chaos and confusion at first, at least I will know I am not crazy like everyone in my life is telling me. I'm so tired of feeling so strongly about something and being told I'm nuts. This is not about me though. In fact it's not even all about Michael. It's about LOVE. God is love. And Michael is his messenger, I truly believe that. NOT saying he is jesus or an angel, I just believe he was chosen to warn us, I really do. I pray for Michael even more now, if what I feel is true is really true, he is so much stronger than I could have ever imagined and I pray for myself to have even a fraction of that strength. The truth will prevail. The time is coming. Does anyone else have goosebumps?

Yes, I do... I have goosebumps... I'm waiting and trying to be patient, however it's difficult. Michael we love you and waiting for you. But come back in your own time Darling .... L.O.V.E
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Sorry, worshipping time? By sooo many rather new members? Did I miss something?
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This whole time I've been searching for something to hold onto. Some sort of truth as to *why* this was being done. Since reading this, I have gone into almost like a trance. It all make sense to me now. It's all much bigger than I thought. What if Michael as the "King of Pop" really is done making music, and his mission when he returns is to help bring the TRUTH to life and bring people hope. If these are really the "end times", which I think is very very likely, then it would all make sense. Every single thing. The paralells in "This Is It" and "2012". I wouldn't be surprised if Michael helped produce "2012". I'm rambling. Cannot focus. I feel it coming though. I have been awakened that is for sure. I hope the big "reveal" is soon, even though it's going to cause a lot of chaos and confusion at first, at least I will know I am not crazy like everyone in my life is telling me. I'm so tired of feeling so strongly about something and being told I'm nuts. This is not about me though. In fact it's not even all about Michael. It's about LOVE. God is love. And Michael is his messenger, I truly believe that. NOT saying he is jesus or an angel, I just believe he was chosen to warn us, I really do. I pray for Michael even more now, if what I feel is true is really true, he is so much stronger than I could have ever imagined and I pray for myself to have even a fraction of that strength. The truth will prevail. The time is coming. Does anyone else have goosebumps?

Wow. I agree. We think alike.  :D Yes, I feel different lately. Like something big is coming. And you know what's weird? EVERYONE around me is talking about the chaos in our world and how we need an awakening. (completely unrelated to Michael) My mom and friend were talking about the "end times" yesterday while I was on here reading up. It's surreal almost. I wanted so badly to tell them about Michael and all of this. And how I REALLY do believe with every inch of my being that Michael has a bigger connection in all of this than most people think. It's like he IS a messenger from God. Everything he's done...I mean, this is going to be HUGE.

Yep, I've got the goosebumps too.
Time to wake up guys. Light up the darkness.

And no, none of the new members are "worshiping" Michael are they? Not that I see anyways.  

With L.O.V.E. and hope,
Lizzie <3
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This whole time I've been searching for something to hold onto. Some sort of truth as to *why* this was being done. Since reading this, I have gone into almost like a trance. It all make sense to me now. It's all much bigger than I thought. What if Michael as the "King of Pop" really is done making music, and his mission when he returns is to help bring the TRUTH to life and bring people hope. If these are really the "end times", which I think is very very likely, then it would all make sense. Every single thing. The paralells in "This Is It" and "2012". I wouldn't be surprised if Michael helped produce "2012". I'm rambling. Cannot focus. I feel it coming though. I have been awakened that is for sure. I hope the big "reveal" is soon, even though it's going to cause a lot of chaos and confusion at first, at least I will know I am not crazy like everyone in my life is telling me. I'm so tired of feeling so strongly about something and being told I'm nuts. This is not about me though. In fact it's not even all about Michael. It's about LOVE. God is love. And Michael is his messenger, I truly believe that. NOT saying he is jesus or an angel, I just believe he was chosen to warn us, I really do. I pray for Michael even more now, if what I feel is true is really true, he is so much stronger than I could have ever imagined and I pray for myself to have even a fraction of that strength. The truth will prevail. The time is coming. Does anyone else have goosebumps?

Wow. I agree. We think alike.  :D Yes, I feel different lately. Like something big is coming. And you know what's weird? EVERYONE around me is talking about the chaos in our world and how we need an awakening. (completely unrelated to Michael) My mom and friend were talking about the "end times" yesterday while I was on here reading up. It's surreal almost. I wanted so badly to tell them about Michael and all of this. And how I REALLY do believe with every inch of my being that Michael has a bigger connection in all of this than most people think. It's like he IS a messenger from God. Everything he's done...I mean, this is going to be HUGE.

Yep, I've got the goosebumps too.
Time to wake up guys. Light up the darkness.

And no, none of the new members are "worshiping" Michael are they? Not that I see anyways.  

With L.O.V.E. and hope,
Lizzie <3


Lizzie... we do think alike :) That's why I come to this site because I feel so incredibly alone in my life right now. I have SO much on my plate that normally would keep me busy and focused but I cannot think about anything but this. All of the big things in my life are starting to seem smaller and smaller and of less importance. Today I've been in bed just staring at the wall thinking about it all. When I finally do get some sleep, I just dream about it and wake up feeling more confused and more in need of sleep, lol!

My problem is that I HAVE told the people in my life about this. My family and few close friends. My family thinks I'm losing it, with the exception of my cousins who are my age and also believers in the hoax. My boyfriend thinks that I could be right, that it makes sense, but he's just not the type to worry about things. He says theres nothing he can do about it so might as well just wait and see what happens.

And no, I don't see anyone worshipping Michael. If I came across that way in my post, I'd like to make sure to be clear on that. I believe in God. I worship him only. All I'm saying is, we were all given different gifts and work of God's to do in our lives. Wouldn't it make sense that Michael be given such a gift? He has so many "followers" (not worshippers, just people who love him because of his GOD given talents), if God were going to chose someone, a messenger, for something so huge, it would have to be someone people would listen to. That's why I think it makes sense. So many people love Michael, some love Michael that don't believe in God. If we are living in the "end times", "last days", whatever, that means that both God and the devil are going to be working hard to get people to follow them. Hence why so many people believe Obama is the antichrist. It would make sense for all of this to be happening at the same time.

Not to mention the world chaos and disaster as Lizzie mentioned.

Not to freak anyone out, but read the verse Daniel 12:1-13. Who is "Michael" in this verse? It does not specify that it is the archangel michael, does it? And "great prince" is not capitalized like it would be if it were talking about Jesus. What if this verse is talking about just a man named Michael, the "great prince" (Kind of pop???), protector of the people (with the message he was given?). I don't know. I don't want to argue the Bible, I just think that it is full of symbolism and things that we couldn't possibly imagine until they actually happen.

I could go on and on, but I'm getting off topic. I hope this really is the month that he will return, before I go completely nuts!!

JaCi
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Thanks TS aka STUDY and maybe aka "Hood"  ;)  :?: your work is appreciated by more than less!
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Not to freak anyone out, but read the verse Daniel 12:1-13. Who is "Michael" in this verse? It does not specify that it is the archangel michael, does it? And "great prince" is not capitalized like it would be if it were talking about Jesus. What if this verse is talking about just a man named Michael, the "great prince" (Kind of pop???), protector of the people (with the message he was given?). I don't know. I don't want to argue the Bible, I just think that it is full of symbolism and things that we couldn't possibly imagine until they actually happen.

I could go on and on, but I'm getting off topic. I hope this really is the month that he will return, before I go completely nuts!!

JaCi
Wow, that's fascinating! Who could the Bible have meant- it sure sounds like our Michael!
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I have the feeling we will stay on the hoaxsite for some more time...
on the 18 we will have lot to discuss about,..but unfortnately not yet his comeback.This is what I believe...
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Dear TS,

Thank you, from all corners of my heart, for your most recent post.

I have believed for a very, very long time. I have watched, and waited, with abated breath for all to be revealed. Michael never does anything without a strong strategy in place. I am sure his plan has taken many years to devise and execute. And your information to us was similar - something that long term is unable to generate spur-of-the-moment redirects. I must say that I have no doubt that what you say is fact. Never one for relying on numerous coincidences, you have supported your statements with well thought out, logical and most importantly accurate information. My philosphy is this - you either have your eyes, ears and heart open to the what is right in front of you (and you stand by MJ's side). Or, like so many others, you choose to ingore the facts, turn a blind eye and choose ignorance over FAITH.

I would like to know what more can we do for him, for us, for the children and the planet - to further this crucial cause. Chaos will ensue, but there are those of us that realize that it is well worth it. This is I pray he reads our words. Michael - I am still at your side, after all this time. I never left, not once in 30 years.

"If you've seen nothing, if the crimes of this government remain unknown to you, then I would suggest that you allow the 5th of November to pass unmarked. But if see what I see, if feel as I feel, and if you seek as I seek, then I ask you to stand beside me... "[/i] V for Vendetta
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I love you most, Michael. You are in my heart and soul. I am and have always been standing by your side every day of my life - Past. Present. Future. You are my story.


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A DAY OF MJ COME BACK - WILL BE MY RE-BIRTH DAY,
NOW MY LIFE IS A BATTLE, WITH EVERYONE ....AS A SOLDIER OF MJ'S ARMY OF LOVE, AS HIS FAN AND AS A HUMAN BEING I WAS DOING MY JOB...EDUCATING OTHERS ABOUT WHAT HAPPEND:

"think about MJ this way, that showing his own death he did something that no one did to proove how media manipulation works, MJ wants people to be aware, what these guys (iLLUMINATTI) r doing and what they did to him, lies in newspapers...give me your picture and i will print in my country something wrong about u...and u are done as MJ, damage will be done...because people-readers-belive in what they read, they don't care if it is true...so hard to think for them unless it conserns them... "

I HOPE MY LITTLE JOB HELPED ENOUGH TO PREPARE EVEN ONE MORE SOUL TO MJ'S COME BACK,

WE MUST BE UNITED, AS MJ SAYS...

WE ARE already UNITED ENOUGH TO HELP HIM RETURN...

TO MJ - IT WAS FASCINATING ADVENTURE, PAINFULL TOO - IT WAS NOT EASY TO FAIGHT THE THOUGHT THAT U DIED...MY WORLD CRASHED ON 25.06.2009 AND I REACHED MY LOWEST POINT OF RESISTANCE FOR THIS BAD WORLD IN OCTOBER...BUT THIS WEB SIDE CHANGED MY LIFE...AND YOUTUBE CHANNEL...

MJ - COME BACK, WE ARE READY TO SUPPORT U !!!! I WILL BE THERE!!!!!!!!!!FOR U......POLAND IS READY!!!
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Thank you for allowing us to see the update. Your work is exemplary in every way. I have researched thru all the pages, links etc. etc as well as other videos and websites and NOT ONE of the others can compare!!!

Michael will return and those of us in the know will be waiting with open hearts, bodies and minds to receive him!

Michael, know u are loved by us and we will ALWAYS STAND BESIDE YOU, STRONG AND FREE!!!!

WHY?

"Cos it's all for love, L.O.V.E.!!!!!!!
huggs
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TS,

Thank you again for the information you gave.

My question to you is this - is the reason for the time away an equal combination of all of the factors that have been laid out, or is there one that supercedes the rest? And how can we best help him when he returns?
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So this is highly probable?? :D Yaaaay :P
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Quote from: "IDK3MJ"
POLAND IS READY!!!

Yes, POLAND is ready! Michael I need you so badly ,but I know that you are alive, so that is ok. Come back in your own time, we are prepared ..:)
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This Is Also It is the best thing I ever read from a lot of time.
We really have to "heal the world",not only speaking about nature...but about all the other bad things that surrounds us (nwo and so on).

Before reading TIAI I was full of questions and doubts(for example: WHY??)...but now it's all clear in my mind (maybe my english is a little bit confused, but my mind not hihihi sorry).
Thank you TS or Study ;)

After months and months now I can make up for all the nights that I spent searching clues or strange things!!
And I'm feeling really better! Thank you (from my eye socket also!)
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Thanks TS, I realize the vast amount of work that has meaning for you, but in truth it was worth it, now we know so many things that previously ignored, conspiracies, new world order, etc, it really was necessary wake up and we understood that all these tools to make it known to others who do not even know all this, we are ready to return, full of faith and hope the big day, no matter what date. Again many thanks. :lol:
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I miss everything about you Michael you were a wonderful beautifll loving person and the world is not the same with out you. They are geting ready to inslave us and kill the ones who wont do as they say. its coming and we needed you here to help us, but you arent and most of us dont know what to do. well I do I will run and hid as long as I can until God is ready to bring me home. I can not fight in any way other then with love I can not hurt or kill.  :?:  save us  :!:
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Thank you so much TS but I was wondering about one thing. You used quotation marks when you wrote Return. Is it because you wanted to take attention to that word or is it something like we use quotation marks when we talk about Michael's "death"? You tried to mean that the "RETURN" is NOT real? But then why did you explain what TMZ tried to say when they wrote the investigation is over? I'm sorry but if the return thing is not certain or if there's NOT a possibility like that, it really hurts the fans to give them false hope. Hope Michael comes back this month because this adventure is getting to be so sad and hurtful for us. We got his message and trying to spread it to everyone we know. We're the army of L.O.V.E but we shouldn't forget that even the strongest army has no power without its leader!

WE NEED YOU MICHAEL and WE CAN NOT TAKE IT ANY MORE! PLEASE COME BACK TO US!
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There are moments in our life when the only chance to slow down the effects of a tragedy is the hope that the people remain first of all HUMANS, that they didn’t totally loose from their hearts the feeling that we are all the children of the same Creator, that beyond the race, religion, nationality or social state, we are all brothers. Yes, I know that it is hard to imagine such an idyllic situation in a world where even the blood brothers are sometimes enemies, where children and parents keep fights which last for months, years or even a lifetime, when the youngsters are following patterns of the adults that would rather choose to offend, to point an accusing finger, to criticize (but not in a constructive way). However, I stubborn to believe that people didn’t loose their humanity.  Well, call me naïve, consider that I’m from another planet, but in my eyes the people are good, beautiful and sensitive. I can see those things well hidden behind each blow-up, behind each superior, ostentatious attitude, behind each malicious word. I KNOW that beyond all those appearances, the true qualities are waiting to be just a little bit provoked in order to find the courage to be shown to the whole world. I don’t want to waist my time trying to figure why people came to pretend that they lost their humanity; I don’t want to blame “the system”, the governments, the criminals, the faith…there is no time for this. I just want to convince the ones who had the kindness to stop a while and listening to me, that it’s nothing more natural and more satisfying than to lend a helping hand to those who need it the most, to spread smiles and hope all-around you, constantly seeking and appreciating the beauty and the goodness which lays in every single one of us and, probably the most important thing: to let everybody seeing that you have the courage to be HUMAN, that you have the courage to approach a different attitude than the one imposed by the flow, that you have the courage to swim against the flaw, for the simple reason that you want to reach to the saving ship; and to let the whole world seeing that this attitude makes you happy, fulfilled and special.

As you all already know, the year 2010 debuted with an awful catastrophe somewhere on this Earth, in a region with many more delicate problems: Haiti. In situations like this, only the hope in people’s solidarity remains for those who lost their children, their siblings or their entire family, those who are sleeping in the street, among dead bodies, or dyeing people, for those who in a couple of days will live a nightmare even worth than the earthquake itself, due to the chaos that will set up upon this terrible scene. I whish that not the thought that something similar could happen to us as well, to be the one that moves us in this case, but simply the human care and compassion for the suffering of our brothers and sisters… speaking another language, from a far foreign country, maybe of another color, but still brothers and sisters.  I know that those of you to whom I’m addressing right now are not from that category of people who think: “I have my own problems; let the governments help them; we have enough people in needs here in our country; there are special organizations for this, this is not my responsibility”. Those thoughts have no place in humans’ hearts and minds. If you cannot afford to donate, at least say a prayer … it could help just as much. But the most important thing you could do in order to help is to spread the message, to encourage other friends to help those people.  I beg you to spread the message and to give it a personal touch in order to reach as many hearts as possible.
Due to my preoccupations from the last months I had the wonderful chance to gain lots of friends from allover the world and some of them are from Haiti. They lost the contact with their families and they know nothing about their faith, having in mind that the communication is limited in these moments. After asking for their opinion about this subject, I chose to donate through www.yele.org
This organization was funded in 2005 by Wyclef Jean, one of the local Haiti celebrities, known for his implication in humanitarian causes. He and his wife are right there in the middle of the disaster helping the victims and removing the bodies. Please watch these youtube vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SunxiHP_ ... _embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ-ZEoD8 ... r_embedded

if you still have doubts regarding your participation, like I said before, just pray the Lord to give them strength and hope and to comfort their sorrow … But first of all send this call to your friends and encourage them to do the same. Don’t be ashamed to plead for a helping hand. Every single cent worth when you left with NOTHING. God bless you!
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There are moments in our life when the only chance to slow down the effects of a tragedy is the hope that the people remain first of all HUMANS, that they didn’t totally loose from their hearts the feeling that we are all the children of the same Creator, that beyond the race, religion, nationality or social state, we are all brothers. Yes, I know that it is hard to imagine such an idyllic situation in a world where even the blood brothers are sometimes enemies, where children and parents keep fights which last for months, years or even a lifetime, when the youngsters are following patterns of the adults that would rather choose to offend, to point an accusing finger, to criticize (but not in a constructive way). However, I stubborn to believe that people didn’t loose their humanity.  Well, call me naïve, consider that I’m from another planet, but in my eyes the people are good, beautiful and sensitive. I can see those things well hidden behind each blow-up, behind each superior, ostentatious attitude, behind each malicious word. I KNOW that beyond all those appearances, the true qualities are waiting to be just a little bit provoked in order to find the courage to be shown to the whole world. I don’t want to waist my time trying to figure why people came to pretend that they lost their humanity; I don’t want to blame “the system”, the governments, the criminals, the faith…there is no time for this. I just want to convince the ones who had the kindness to stop a while and listening to me, that it’s nothing more natural and more satisfying than to lend a helping hand to those who need it the most, to spread smiles and hope all-around you, constantly seeking and appreciating the beauty and the goodness which lays in every single one of us and, probably the most important thing: to let everybody seeing that you have the courage to be HUMAN, that you have the courage to approach a different attitude than the one imposed by the flow, that you have the courage to swim against the flaw, for the simple reason that you want to reach to the saving ship; and to let the whole world seeing that this attitude makes you happy, fulfilled and special.

As you all already know, the year 2010 debuted with an awful catastrophe somewhere on this Earth, in a region with many more delicate problems: Haiti. In situations like this, only the hope in people’s solidarity remains for those who lost their children, their siblings or their entire family, those who are sleeping in the street, among dead bodies, or dyeing people, for those who in a couple of days will live a nightmare even worth than the earthquake itself, due to the chaos that will set up upon this terrible scene. I whish that not the thought that something similar could happen to us as well, to be the one that moves us in this case, but simply the human care and compassion for the suffering of our brothers and sisters… speaking another language, from a far foreign country, maybe of another color, but still brothers and sisters.  I know that those of you to whom I’m addressing right now are not from that category of people who think: “I have my own problems; let the governments help them; we have enough people in needs here in our country; there are special organizations for this, this is not my responsibility”. Those thoughts have no place in humans’ hearts and minds. If you cannot afford to donate, at least say a prayer … it could help just as much. But the most important thing you could do in order to help is to spread the message, to encourage other friends to help those people.  I beg you to spread the message and to give it a personal touch in order to reach as many hearts as possible.
Due to my preoccupations from the last months I had the wonderful chance to gain lots of friends from allover the world and some of them are from Haiti. They lost the contact with their families and they know nothing about their faith, having in mind that the communication is limited in these moments. After asking for their opinion about this subject, I chose to donate through http://www.yele.org
This organization was funded in 2005 by Wyclef Jean, one of the local Haiti celebrities, known for his implication in humanitarian causes. He and his wife are right there in the middle of the disaster helping the victims and removing the bodies. Please watch these youtube vids:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SunxiHP_ ... _embedded#
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQ-ZEoD8 ... r_embedded

if you still have doubts regarding your participation, like I said before, just pray the Lord to give them strength and hope and to comfort their sorrow … But first of all send this call to your friends and encourage them to do the same. Don’t be ashamed to plead for a helping hand. Every single cent worth when you left with NOTHING. God bless you!

This is so very true...Ralu....The people of Haiti need everyones help, love and prayers.  A very loving, caring person, one that I admire very much once said.." Stand up right now and take the hand of the person standing next to you.  Tell them you care about them, tell them you love them...do it now, don't be afraid"  this is what is needed right now.  I believe people want to do this, but they just don't know where to start...to make a difference in another's life...so why not begin with the people needing help so very badly in Haiti.  If everyone put humanity first, gave a little, if possible, then in the end it would make a great difference to the people of Haiti.  And if finances were not available to them to give, prayer can also do so much.  Now is the time to put the words, it's all for L.O.V.E. into action.  Making a difference in anothers life, enriches our own lives beyond measure.
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@Debbie, I'm sure we all love that person endlessly... And I can hear his voice encouraging us to prove our courage and our love. Maybe this is the price our world has to pay in order to force us to join our love and humanity.

Thank you for your support. I KNOW that pure love and compasion still exist. Let's bring them to the light!

Love and peace to all of you!
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Let's hope for the best!
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hmmm well seems like the 18th has passed and nothing has happened. :(  has anyone found any clues from tmz or any type of clue today? :?:
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hmmm well seems like the 18th has passed and nothing has happened. :(  has anyone found any clues from tmz or any type of clue today? :?:

Well this was discovered by somebody on another Forum   http://www.5brothersenterprises.com/

Seeing Clues blog talks about it too    http://www.seeingclues.blogspot.com/

.....it may be a clue as to the "Return". Look for the hidden images in the words "Coming Soon" and turn up your speaker sound for the BAM!!! In the Crown there are 5 "figures". This image was very briefly shown at the end of the Jackson Family Reality Show. Increase the zoom of your screen to see the hidden images better.

Not sure about anything else so far....TMZ didn't seem to have anything about MJ or related.
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hmmm well seems like the 18th has passed and nothing has happened. :(  has anyone found any clues from tmz or any type of clue today? :?:

Well this was discovered by somebody on another Forum   http://www.5brothersenterprises.com/

Seeing Clues blog talks about it too    http://www.seeingclues.blogspot.com/

.....it may be a clue as to the "Return". Look for the hidden images in the words "Coming Soon" and turn up your speaker sound for the BAM!!! In the Crown there are 5 "figures". This image was very briefly shown at the end of the Jackson Family Reality Show. Increase the zoom of your screen to see the hidden images better.

Not sure about anything else so far....TMZ didn't seem to have anything about MJ or related.
ooh ok thank you ill check that out hopefully we hear something tomorrow but it might just be wishful thinking but oh well anything will do at this point  :|
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I believe that all of the believers got his message. We've been investigating the whole thing for 7 months! It's a long time. Personally I don't expect him to go back to the stage. It's his choice. But I do want him to come back because I want to be sure that he's fine and healthy. Otherwise how are we going to be sure about it? And to me if he delays to come back more, he will start losing the support he has right now. Because people started to lose their faith, and their patience. They started to say that they don't believe in the hoax no more. They started to hurt each other. Accept it or not it is the truth. I will keep on supporting him but I'm not sure if it is the same for everyone else. We're having new fake informers, new weird theories everyday. Everyone is saying something different. Who are we going to trust and believe? Believe in ourselves? Really? What do we know for sure? NOTHING! It's just the theories. That's all we have! After giving clues and showed that he is alive, he can not leave us like this. I don't want to believe that Michael does it to us. And I NEVER believed that he did this to run away from the public. Some people say that he was tired of everything, I'm sorry but that's BS! He wasn't even in the spotlight lately. Why would he fake his death and run away now? He would have done it way before if that was his aim. If the issue is about the threats and if the threat issue is closed by FBI, why wouldn't he come back? Is he going to hide in the rest of his life? He has to come back to end this pain of us and answer all of our questions. And if he wasn't going to come back, I so wish that he never gave us the clues. Most importantly, before he gets back, I don't believe that we can focus on spreading his message because we're all focused on the investigation!So are we the army of L.O.V.E now? Let me tell you something; EVEN THE STRONGEST ARMY HAS NO POWER WITHOUT ITS LEADER! Because we're looking out and waiting for our leader still. Noone here can convince me that they're done with the investigation and they're only spreading Michael's message. Because I would ask them what they are doing on a hoax site still. No, we're all still on the investigation. We tell others about the NWO and illu. stuff but did we focus on that only? No, because it's impossible until he gets back.

I don't care if you say that "It's his choice. He doesn't need to come back" crap. Because you know that you want him to come back soon in your heart! So be honest and tell what your heart really says to you.

I'm sorry if it's harsh but this is what I think and feel. God bless Michael and all of the believers.
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I think Michael will not get back to the scene, but what if you want is to let us know that he is well and healthy, that's all what I expect, .. :roll:

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If we,as MJ's fan community, wish to enbody  the values of L.O.V.E., certainly that love should extend to Mr. Jackson himself. We need to respect and support his choices, it is his life. I must admit that for me, for my happiness, I want to know he's OK, and to see and hear from him again. My big epiphany as I lay awake last night mulling over the death hoax/come back/ really passed away issue was that it's really not about me ( I know,silly, right? :roll: ).  What I want most is for Mr. Jackson to be happy, in whatever form that takes.
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From what I gathered TS wants us to understand, to really understand, is not important to know WHEN he returns. Michael needs to know we, our fans, will support him because we truly and deeply understood why he did that. He wants us to get the message, which is so important he faked his death for that; he risked a lot for something he believes in, for something he wants us to comprehend, accept and embrace. He needs to feel we got the message and we're ready to stand beside him no matter what. Not only because we're his fans , we love his music and we want him back, but because he awakened our conscience, he helped us to "make that change". I, personally, feel deeply touched by his message, he changed me in many ways, some of them too private to tell, but he did and I thank him for that. And I love him for that, even more than I've loved him and believe me, I've always loved him, very much.
Till then I don't think he will come back.
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you are my life


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@PureLove you were not harsh, you were just honest and sweet. But let me ask you something: When a football team is on the field, the coach is there with them? When difficult times seam not to end anymore for you, you loose the faith in divinity? I whish I could make you all the ones that are suffering about this "comeback" to see the things the way I do. Let put it this way: if the worst situation would prove to be true, which will be your reaction: will you let yourself defited by sorrow and anger, or you will still be thanksful for all this wonderful experience, for meeting so many incredible people, for acknowleging so many realities, for feeling that you are part of a superior, special, loving force? Will you stop being part of the "Army of love" just because your leader is not here anymore? We are here to continue the wonderful attitude and mission he taught us, with or without him. If he would be gone forever, will we stop trying to make that change? Will we let his enemies to distroy what he built? We can proudly continue his mission and we can prove that where there is love and faith and unity and a undistoible positive conduite, no evil can brake through. Keep your faith and hold on all the positive aspects of this adventure, whoever would be its initiator and whatever his intention may be. We can make it positive nomatter what. Love you guys!
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From what I gathered TS wants us to understand, to really understand, is not important to know WHEN he returns. Michael needs to know we, our fans, will support him because we truly and deeply understood why he did that. He wants us to get the message, which is so important he faked his death for that; he risked a lot for something he believes in, for something he wants us to comprehend, accept and embrace. He needs to feel we got the message and we're ready to stand beside him no matter what. Not only because we're his fans , we love his music and we want him back, but because he awakened our conscience, he helped us to "make that change". I, personally, feel deeply touched by his message, he changed me in many ways, some of them too private to tell, but he did and I thank him for that. And I love him for that, even more than I've loved him and believe me, I've always loved him, very much.
Till then I don't think he will come back.
Ditto, DooDoo
And remember the most important message from TII: We have to be all as one. How are we responding to this call? Being all brave and patient and ACTIVE and...very important: loving. At least loving to eachother, the believers. If we can't prove we know what love is here, where we speak the same language, how will we show love to the rest of the world? For me the gratest love I have ever felt for him was when I've heared about him intending to express his love for those young baby killers. This is the supreme proof of love a human could demonstrate. So, I don't say we should all love the criminals, coz it is a long way till that stage, but at least we shoud realize that we will be free and happy when we will be able to replace the hate, the anger and the violence with pure love and forgiveness. I have a feeling we will need that kind of power soon (coz it is about being powerfull in order to be able to feel that). Love and peace!
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The truth I have changed, fixed up my family, I am much more critical in the social and political rather not pay much attention, I am more tolerant, but I'm nice to people, although some people are not with me now media I produce a lot of anger, in fact I see very little television, and other private things I have changed the truth ... I never thought that Michael would take us to this transformation, I always thought this would be solely a forum for Research. ;)

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I think some people lose faith, they doubt the most important thing is to stay in the unit, and ca only love can bring us, after death, I wanted to go into forums for have the supports and I find much more than that, I have found friends, brothers, sisters, united around a common love, also, presently remain together, it's better to do to heal the world, my love for you all has changed, really, and my compassion as the above, Michael is here, very very near us, he read us everytime and I wish him a heated heart today we are starting to lift the cloth .... and understand the unity, a thank you beloved! ;)
you are not alone....i will be there!
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love this is not looking at each other is looking in the same direction!

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Like many of you, I was very disappointed when 'nothing happened' yesterday.  It''s difficult not to be discouraged.  And while it's important to continue on making friends, investigating and understanding his message, I agree that the Army of L.O.V.E. needs a leader.  I've been politically active for a very long time.  I've marched, written letters, and done what I could to educate myself about what is going on in the world.  I was part of the massive march against the Iraq war when millions around the world took to the streets.  And yet, the war began and continues.  I cannot influence millions of people or unite them in any way.  Only someone of Michael's stature can do so.

That said, I will continue to beLIEve, spread his message as best I can by extending love to everyone I meet.  I will continue to SMILE though my heart is breaking.  That may be all we can do right now.
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SMILE THOUGH YOUR HEART IS BREAKING.

Lift Your Head Up High
And Scream Out To The World
I Know I Am Someone
And Let The Truth Unfurl
No One Can Hurt You Now
Because You Know What's True
Yes, I Believe In Me
So You Believe In You
Help Me Sing It, Ma Ma
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i have news videos : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQ6nIsgKW0, there are fifty parts  and it must say very important to america , i'm afraid !!!! the god been with we are , the god bless you and i love you so much kisses in normandy france , it's dramatic ok !!!!!!! sorry my english !!!!
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From what I gathered TS wants us to understand, to really understand, is not important to know WHEN he returns. Michael needs to know we, our fans, will support him because we truly and deeply understood why he did that. He wants us to get the message, which is so important he faked his death for that; he risked a lot for something he believes in, for something he wants us to comprehend, accept and embrace. He needs to feel we got the message and we're ready to stand beside him no matter what. Not only because we're his fans , we love his music and we want him back, but because he awakened our conscience, he helped us to "make that change". I, personally, feel deeply touched by his message, he changed me in many ways, some of them too private to tell, but he did and I thank him for that. And I love him for that, even more than I've loved him and believe me, I've always loved him, very much.
Till then I don't think he will come back.
Beautiful post, and I know how you feel.. I have become so much more aware of the people suffering in other countries, and I'm thinking of doing something to help them.. I read fully all of the TIAI parts and I understood the message, it was some of the most enlightening reading I've ever done, and I see that so many others here have accepted iT. However, as TS stated, not all will agree, but Michael will not discriminate against them. So many of us have accepted the message, though, and are very ready to stand beside him.. how many will be enough? We cannot force everyone to believe in TIAI- I hope Michael realizes that there are some for whom only the sight of him, back and ready to lead the way will convince them..
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It's all about the message, not the return. It's about the journey, not the destination. Once we understand, that's when we are ready for his remergence.

Also, I'm wondering if the Haiti situation will factor into his return. It's just like Michael to do something completely selfless, like making sure the people in Haiti get all the support and aid they need without having attention diverted to something tremendously life-altering (like his return).

Michael, I am aware. I understand. And I will not be selfish. I will await until the time is right for you. I've been here the whole time. I am never leaving your side. And I will never, not for one split second, stop BELIEVING. That is my promise, my vow, to you.
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I love you most, Michael. You are in my heart and soul. I am and have always been standing by your side every day of my life - Past. Present. Future. You are my story.


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It's all about the message, not the return. It's about the journey, not the destination. Once we understand, that's when we are ready for his remergence.

Also, I'm wondering if the Haiti situation will factor into his return. It's just like Michael to do something completely selfless, like making sure the people in Haiti get all the support and aid they need without having attention diverted to something tremendously life-altering (like his return).

Michael, I am aware. I understand. And I will not be selfish. I will await until the time is right for you. I've been here the whole time. I am never leaving your side. And I will never, not for one split second, stop BELIEVING. That is my promise, my vow, to you.

What I put in bold: I was thinking that too! This has nothing to do with it, but did anyone else notice that on the movie's red carpet premiere, Oct. 27 (when he could have returned) there were high winds and cold drippy weather here in Cali, and yesterday, on Dr. King's day, it was another opportunity and more winds.. weird, huh?

And as I said, how many is enough, I wonder? Not everyone will accept TIAI as the truth as we have..
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Perhaps Michael's "return" on January 18th was  all about the "message" of January 18th - Martin Luther King Day in the USA....the clues about January 18th from TMZ and STUDY were  telling us that what Michael has done is for peace and unity in the world....it is about the message not the comeback.

Jermaine said to his wife in the final episode of the reality show "I had a dream about Michael"..sounds familiar?

Something to think about anyway.
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How many people would know about MLK if it wasn't Michael and his song?
How many people would had take that message ?
Just a song . And so much of awakening .

I'M HERE FOR YOU MICHAEL. I'LL FIGHT FOR YOU , TILL THE END !
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"Open your Eyes"

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CRY
Somebody shakes when the wind blows
Somebody's missing a friend (hold on
Somebody's lacking a hero          
And they have not a clue when it's all gonna end again
 *** is it all the good leaders gone..

Stories buried and untold
Someone is hiding the truth
(hold on) *** whose hiding the truth??  :arrow: MEDIA
When will this mystery unfold   *** as you all know HE WANTED OUR ATTENTION! he fake his death.. :|
And will the sun ever shine
In the blind mans eyes when he cries *** for those who are still not aware.. or still ignorant??

You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
You can touch the sky (it's gonna take somebody's help)
You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign
If we all cry at the same time tonight  *** UNITY / BE ONE

If people laugh when they're feeling sad
Someone is taking a life (hold on)      
Respect to believe in your dreams
  *** hmmm.. what does this means??
So tell me where were you
When your children cried last night

Faces filled with madness
Miracles unheard of (hold on)
Faith is found in the winds
All we have to do is to reach for the truth, the truth


You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
You can touch the sky (it's gonna take somebody's help)
You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
If we all cry at the same time tonight


And when that flag glows there'll be no more wars
And when all cause I will answer all your prayers (prayers)
Show the world
¡
**** hmmmm.. i dont know im not sure of this thing..THE COMEBACK?

You can change the world (I can't do it by myself)
You can touch the sky (it's gonna take somebody's help)
You're the chosen one (I'm gonna need some kind of sign)
If we all cry at the same time tonight


***if you could browse all the lyrics in invincible album..including those unreleased song especially the song "XSCAPE" and "A PLACE w/ No Name..it does all make sense michael is talking to us through his music for a long long time.. its just that we should be aware of it, that we should open our eyes.. i dont believe that he died.. he just "left" with good reason and he will come back in his own beautiful time..the songs especially those unreleased ones if you just look at it.. it shows that  the hoax is really a well planned.. i just copy the lyrics Cry bec. i thinks thats what michael wanted us to do.. is to help him.. he could not do it on its on.. let us not be ignorant of  the fact thats whats goin on around us, he just want us to fight, not being manipulated... well lets be patient.. that all we can do right now HOPE AND FAITH.. ;)
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It's all about the message, not the return. It's about the journey, not the destination. Once we understand, that's when we are ready for his remergence.

Also, I'm wondering if the Haiti situation will factor into his return. It's just like Michael to do something completely selfless, like making sure the people in Haiti get all the support and aid they need without having attention diverted to something tremendously life-altering (like his return).

Michael, I am aware. I understand. And I will not be selfish. I will await until the time is right for you. I've been here the whole time. I am never leaving your side. And I will never, not for one split second, stop BELIEVING. That is my promise, my vow, to you.

What I put in bold: I was thinking that too! This has nothing to do with it, but did anyone else notice that on the movie's red carpet premiere, Oct. 27 (when he could have returned) there were high winds and cold drippy weather here in Cali, and yesterday, on Dr. King's day, it was another opportunity and more winds.. weird, huh?

And as I said, how many is enough, I wonder? Not everyone will accept TIAI as the truth as we have..


I honestly believe that not everyone is open to heed the message, to open their eyes and see what is before them. I pray that those that have been blessed by this gift are spreading it to others. Paying it forward, sowing the seeds, so that one by one, the message is passed along. I say start with the children. Show them the right way. They are not only the future, but they are the cleanest of souls, the most open of hearts and minds. They will spread the love in ways most adults aren't capable.
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WELL! hi i wanna thank you very much for ur hard work and ur great job,i feel great about you because ur so anxious and so ready but ur also trying to help pthers to be ready also we wish that if michael came ,come while us leaded the way and are so ready to get the media and stuff down and beat them, ofcourse not beat them by fighting but get them down that they would be unimportant in this world because i think those people sould get down,and im actually not so happy that ur not gonna post ubdates any more, but doesn't matter that much because im really wishing that michael come back in this month or at least at june 25 and hope not after this but it'll be a great other gift from GOD if he came in this month. :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D  :D
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tenez vous au courant c est un fake le rechauffement de la planete allez voir ca
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Wt_L8gt7FI c est que du faux et si michael y croit il se trompe on a plus a craidre des gouvernements que du rechauffement de la planete voyons kisses
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This song is just perfect. I use to listen to it once and once again. And it always brings tears to my eyes... :cry:
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Ready for the fight for love!
Already trying for month's to make people aware!
But we need the big bam to make them listen!
I wil be there!!!
Mattie
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This is a petition site:

http://www.gopetition.com/petitions/uni ... -give.html

 On behalf of Michael Jackson we his fans feel that Sony should release the afore mentioned song and donate all of the proceeds to the Haiti Earthquake Appeal. If Michael were still alive he would be doing everything he could to help the people of Haiti, by Sony releasing this song they can ensure that his legacy continues.
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Signed the petition!

I love that song!!!!!!!!!!
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Signed the petition!

I love that song!!!!!!!!!!

 :) Hugs LS
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Dear TS, I'd like to thank you for all your incredible work. First redirections and now updates are so insightful, what's more they really make me consider, research, and think in different categories. I love the story about Lynyrd Skynyrd! I'm ready!!! L.O.V.E.
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oooooo...only 4 more days left in January. Tick-tock, tick-tock, tick tock!!!  :o
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Yeah, the probability is not looking so probable anymore! 3 days left now! :) CHEERS!
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Yeah, the probability is not looking so probable anymore! 3 days left now! :) CHEERS!


Grammys  :mrgreen:
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OKAY, EVERBODY! THAT\'S A WRAP!

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TS,  Whatcha think?  3 days left.  If youre not right, I'm gonna cry.  :cry:
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Well, Tink, we might at least get his kids: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/163074 ... hael.jhtml
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Thank you again TS. Once again I'm speechless. All I can say is that I will always be here for Michael and his message.
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Its Grammys today or bust I guess? 1/31/10. Hummmm...Where's old TS? Talk to me Goose!
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Ok, time to pull the ejection handle now. I'm outta here !!POOF!!  :(
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do you still believe he is alive?and he put his kids accept his award...did you see paris looked somewhere up and said dad and then daddy.. :?
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do you still believe he is alive?and he put his kids accept his award...did you see paris looked somewhere up and said dad and then daddy.. :?

Honestly, do these words tell you that he's dead: "Our dady was supposed to be here. He was gone to perform this year, but he couldn't perform last year."
 :shock:
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do you still believe he is alive?and he put his kids accept his award...did you see paris looked somewhere up and said dad and then daddy.. :?

Honestly, do these words tell you that he's dead: "Our dady was supposed to be here. He was gone to perform this year, but he couldn't perform last year."
 :shock:

I did not understand that sentence at all  :?
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Michael pls come back


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do you still believe he is alive?and he put his kids accept his award...did you see paris looked somewhere up and said dad and then daddy.. :?

Honestly, do these words tell you that he's dead: "Our dady was supposed to be here. He was gone to perform this year, but he couldn't perform last year."
 :shock:

I did not understand that sentence at all  :?
:) She was nervous, I agree, but "He intended to perform, but he couldn't perform last year" is not exactely "he died before being able to perform". And also Prince saying "We would also like to thank your fans...the fans..." was funny...  :idea:
Hugs.
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TIAI Revealed, Part 1: “I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you.”

Try us.   :roll:
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I could swear I recall reading somewhere that MJ was supposed to perform at the grammys last yr? Anyone else recall that?

I agree that both kids were extremely nervous as expected. I also agree that despite how nervous they were, their statements were odd.

It is easy when we are skeptical to make hasty judgments, but yep I found it out of place that Prince said, "we want to thank YOUR fans" & then of course the statement from Paris.

If nothing else she was for sure trying to say something, but the statement came out backwards.

Sweet kids!
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TIAI Revealed, Part 1: “I am not going to say right now how I got this information; many would not believe me if I told you.”

link please
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I could swear I recall reading somewhere that MJ was supposed to perform at the grammys last yr? Anyone else recall that?

I agree that both kids were extremely nervous as expected. I also agree that despite how nervous they were, their statements were odd.

It is easy when we are skeptical to make hasty judgments, but yep I found it out of place that Prince said, "we want to thank YOUR fans" & then of course the statement from Paris.

If nothing else she was for sure trying to say something, but the statement came out backwards.

Sweet kids!

Well, if that is the case (I didn't hear he was supposed to perform on last year Gramy) than Paris statement makes sense: he was about to perform on Grammys last year but for some reason he couldn't...and he intended to do it this year, which was obvious to late...I liked her Ghosts shirt anyway
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I could swear I recall reading somewhere that MJ was supposed to perform at the grammys last yr? Anyone else recall that?

I agree that both kids were extremely nervous as expected. I also agree that despite how nervous they were, their statements were odd.

It is easy when we are skeptical to make hasty judgments, but yep I found it out of place that Prince said, "we want to thank YOUR fans" & then of course the statement from Paris.

If nothing else she was for sure trying to say something, but the statement came out backwards.

Sweet kids!

Well, if that is the case (I didn't hear he was supposed to perform on last year Gramy) than Paris statement makes sense: he was about to perform on Grammys last year but for some reason he couldn't...and he intended to do it this year, which was obvious to late...I liked her Ghosts shirt anyway
 ;)

No, he wasn't ready to perform at the Grammys last year ("...but he couldn't perform last year"), but he was going to perform at the Grammys at 2010. It absolutely makes sense what she said - she was just too nervous and it seemed like, she wanted to say mre but couldn't or forgot what to say, or was close to tears, or, or, or...

Michael met Ken Ehrlich (Grammy producer) on June 24th in his dressing room.
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I am new to these forums. I have known about the hoax death since November but I didn't hear about these forums until last month. I know that thisisalsoit.com is a rederecting website and TS owns it but what is S.T.U.D.Y.? What is the point of tiai I don't get it at all. Anyone explain please.???
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[size=200]ii LOVE you Michael.!!! My life will nevaah be the same.! Cause boy you came and changed..the way I walk. The way ii talk<3[/color][/size]

yuu rockked maah world. yuu knoe yuu did. && everythin ii own I giive

I can\'t be still, yuu THRILL meeh. baybee be mine.!<3

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It is easy when we are skeptical to make hasty judgments, but yep I found it out of place that Prince said, "we want to thank YOUR fans" & then of course the statement from Paris.
Sweet kids!

they were practicing their speechess with him! LOL
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
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I am new to these forums. I have known about the hoax death since November but I didn't hear about these forums until last month. I know that thisisalsoit.com is a rederecting website and TS owns it but what is S.T.U.D.Y.? What is the point of tiai I don't get it at all. Anyone explain please.???

There is no explanation available - you must read their statements and decide on your own whether you follow their emergency exit or not. They are claiming to know but unfortunately are not allowed to talk further and precisely.
Like all that have come to these forums alike and were debunked.
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Quote from: "imissMJ147"
I am new to these forums. I have known about the hoax death since November but I didn't hear about these forums until last month. I know that thisisalsoit.com is a rederecting website and TS owns it but what is S.T.U.D.Y.? What is the point of tiai I don't get it at all. Anyone explain please.???

There is no explanation available - you must read their statements and decide on your own whether you follow their emergency exit or not. They are claiming to know but unfortunately are not allowed to talk further and precisely.
Like all that have come to these forums alike and were debunked.

Since when has TIAI been debunked and by whom?
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When TIAI first came out, I didn't pay much attention to it. I really couldn't get why my friends were making such a big fuss over it. And it worried me, just how much faith some of us placed in it. I didn't like it that so many of us were so ??? dependent on it; as if we needed it to fuel & base our theories around about the hoax. I didn't want anyone planting ideas & manipulating us. I wanted us to be able to make our own judgements & draw our own conclusions. Most of all, I didn't want my friends hurt & let down because of their misguided & misplaced faith in TIAI. I wanted to know why TIAI was created, who it really belonged to & the true intent behind it. So yes, I had my reservations & suspicions about TIAI to begin with.

But all that started changing in February. I started to view it with different eyes. Maybe because I stopped looking so hard for "the answers". Maybe because I've always had this ingrained habit of nearly always following my heart & not listening to my head. I have been vigilantly following TIAI lately (which I didn't do earlier) & I've got to say that the more I see of it, the more I like it. Merely reading about others' opinions about TIAI never worked for me. I wanted to be able to "feel" it for myself. Like I said before, I have this penchant for following my own instincts (regardless of the 'logistics" behind anything!).

For me, it's not so much the 'clues' themselves in TIAI as much as the effect it helps create that matters most. I mean, this sense of HOPE that TIAI inspires within us. There's a lot about TIAI that I still don't understand, but that has ceased being as important now. TIAI keeps generating positivism & optimism all around. For that alone, I really, truly believe TIAI is intrinsically good. And I hope TIAI continues to lift our spirits & keep reinforcing us to believe in dreams & "the impossible".

Also, a great part about about my BeLIEver journey has always been my great yen for a return: at least one final curtain call, "properly" this time, I mean. I know this may sound childish, but I do so wish to see "the best" that was promised "yet to come", if you know what I mean :P I can't say that has changed much from the beginning for me. But today, I'm at peace within myself, knowing that LIFE is truly beautiful beyond measure & that there really is SO MUCH MORE we can derive from it.

I'm not trying to influence or impose my ideas on anyone of you with this, please trust my sincerity here. And I apologise if this comes across that way. I just thought I would share what I feel with you all; that's all.


L.O.V.E & LOVE ALL THE WAY!
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I was reading again this thread (because I translate it in french for my blog) and, it may be nothing, but i "found" this :



what do you guys think about that ?
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I´m lost again...as usual...
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I´m lost again...as usual...
 :D
ok, let me explain :

one of the main points of this first update is "the timing of TIAI update #1"
now let's take a look at this timing, we've got "7:11" wich makes me think of the date 7-11-2010 because of the solar eclipse (i just saw a tweet of a beLIEver, i think, mentioning that)
There is a theory about the new pictures of MJ, with the blue moon etc, i don't know, it makes me think of looking at events such as eclipses etc...
Finally, "see you in july", well here we are, and this date is in july ...
 :?:
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Do you mean he returned on the 11th?
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I was reading again this thread (because I translate it in french for my blog) and, it may be nothing, but i "found" this :



what do you guys think about that ?


Well I will be partying in Amsterdam after we won the World Cup on July 11, so I think I will miss all the fun in that case! It sure is interesting.
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I was reading again this thread (because I translate it in french for my blog) and, it may be nothing, but i "found" this :



what do you guys think about that ?


Well I will be partying in Amsterdam after we won the World Cup on July 11, so I think I will miss all the fun in that case! It sure is interesting.

Sorry, I checked again. It was posted on 11:11 pacific time. As far as I know that has something to do with guardian angels letting you know they are there. But I also recall it's a wake up call to remind yourself of your true purpose here on earth.

Weird thing is that I have seen the exact time of 11:11 about three times this week, maybe even four times. At least enough to make me notice the strange coincidence.
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I could swear I recall reading somewhere that MJ was supposed to perform at the grammys last yr? Anyone else recall that?

I agree that both kids were extremely nervous as expected. I also agree that despite how nervous they were, their statements were odd.

It is easy when we are skeptical to make hasty judgments, but yep I found it out of place that Prince said, "we want to thank YOUR fans" & then of course the statement from Paris.

If nothing else she was for sure trying to say something, but the statement came out backwards.

Sweet kids!

Michael Jackson to Highlight 50th Grammys?
January 26, 2008 03:34:32 GMT
Michael Jackson reportedly is added to the list of celebrity guests, but is not yet confirmed whether to perform or not.

As more and more artists are announced to highlight the 50th Annual Grammy Awards, more are also spilled on the 'rumored list'. Michael Jackson's name erupted as the latest artist who will pop up his face at the event, either only attending or better still, performing.

Reporter Diane Dimond who wrote a book on Jackson's molestation case, reportedly received a memo that leaked on the way. The content of the memo is not specified but it is known that Sony BMG is "pulling out all the stops to help its one time mega-star re-enter the pop music scene."

In the memo, it is also mentioned that 2008 will be made the year for 'Thriller', a new release from Jackson which marks the 25th anniversary of the legendary album. It will be released two days after the Grammys gala is held on February 10, leading to speculations that his appearance at the event is timely.

"I'm 90 percent sure that Michael Jackson will make an appearance at the Grammys," Dimond told Los Angeles Times reporter Tom O'Neill. "I've heard that he's going to be there, but I'm not sure if he's going to perform or just make an appearance."

The 50th Annual Grammy Awards will be held at Staples Center, Los Angeles and broadcast by CBS television on 8:00 to 11:30 P.M. ET. Other rumored performers at the event are Janet Jackson, Britney Spears and Amy Winehouse.
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Grammy Awards 25th Anniversary “Thriller” Tribute: 2008 Grammy Awards “Thriller” 25th Anniversary Tribute Plans
January 30th, 2008 by Castina
It’s been a quarter century since Michael Jackson released the Top-Selling LP in History, Thriller and Grammy producers are quickly scrambling to prepare a tribute during the 50th Annual Grammy Awards (February 10th) to mark the event. The plan is for will.i.am of the Black Eyed Peas to orchestrate the production, with Kanye West, Wyclef Jean and Akon, all featured on the February 12th anniversary re-release of Thriller, joining in.
http://http://www.popcrunch.com/grammy-awards-25th-anniversary-thriller-tribute-2008-grammy-awards-plans-tribute-to-25th-anniversary-of-thriller/

Michael Jackson - Jackson Won't Sing At Grammys
05 February 2008 16:14
Pop superstar MICHAEL JACKSON will appear at the Grammy Awards on Sunday (10Feb08) - but he won't be singing at the ceremony. Jackson was rumoured to be attending the Los Angeles bash to promote a 25th anniversary re-release of his seminal album Thriller, and organisers were keen for the star to duet on hits from the LP with a number of contemporary performers, including Will.I.Am, Akon, Kanye West and Fergie. But Jackson - who hasn't performed live in seven years - was reluctant to take on such a big project at short notice. A source tells the New York Post, "Michael can't go along with that. He needs more time to rehearse new versions of the songs. And everything requires new choreography." The Post reveals that Grammy producer Ken Ehrlich backed down and consented for Jackson to just appear onstage.
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Michael Jackson Grammy Awards 2008 Tribute Dropped Over Diva Demands
February 18th, 2008 by Castina
Many Michael Jackson fans are wondering why the 50th Annual Grammy Awards commenced last week without a single mention of the twenty-fifth anniversary of the World’s Best-Selling Album, Thriller. The New York Post  claims Jacko missed out on a previously planned tribute because his diva demands were too excessive for Grammy producers.

The forty-nine year-old was reportedly dropped from the ceremony after he insisted a special honoree was on hand to introduce him to the stage. He also reportedly demanded a special award, which was unique to him that no one would ever receive again.

Michael even requested that the entire event was dedicated to his career with no less than thirty mentions to him as the King of Pop.
http://http://www.popcrunch.com/michael-jackson-grammy-awards-2008-tribute-dropped-over-diva-demands/

That last story made me giggle  :D
I'm not really sure that he was planning on attending, seems he was making it hard for him to be there...on purpose perhaps?
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Michael Jackson Grammy Awards 2008 Tribute Dropped Over Diva Demands
February 18th, 2008 by Castina
Many Michael Jackson fans are wondering why the 50th Annual Grammy Awards commenced last week without a single mention of the twenty-fifth anniversary of the World’s Best-Selling Album, Thriller. The New York Post  claims Jacko missed out on a previously planned tribute because his diva demands were too excessive for Grammy producers.

The forty-nine year-old was reportedly dropped from the ceremony after he insisted a special honoree was on hand to introduce him to the stage. He also reportedly demanded a special award, which was unique to him that no one would ever receive again.

Michael even requested that the entire event was dedicated to his career with no less than thirty mentions to him as the King of Pop.
http://http://www.popcrunch.com/michael-jackson-grammy-awards-2008-tribute-dropped-over-diva-demands/

That last story made me giggle  :D
I'm not really sure that he was planning on attending, seems he was making it hard for him to be there...on purpose perhaps?

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: Oh Mike. I find it hard to believe that this was true but if it was...any other celebrity I'd be like "puh-lease what a diva!" but if mike did this idk it just makes me go  :roll:  silly MJ!!   :lol:  he was probably making it hard for him to be there on purpose, i could buy that.
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I was reading again this thread (because I translate it in french for my blog) and, it may be nothing, but i "found" this :



what do you guys think about that ?


Well I will be partying in Amsterdam after we won the World Cup on July 11, so I think I will miss all the fun in that case! It sure is interesting.

Sorry, I checked again. It was posted on 11:11 pacific time. As far as I know that has something to do with guardian angels letting you know they are there. But I also recall it's a wake up call to remind yourself of your true purpose here on earth.

Weird thing is that I have seen the exact time of 11:11 about three times this week, maybe even four times. At least enough to make me notice the strange coincidence.
My jaw.. is on the floor, "Ghosts" style, Souza..! The ground would rumble if I yelled OMG right now, so I'll refrain, but.. For the past like six months almost every time I'll randomly look at a clock it'll be whatever: 26- no kidding! And 2:26 comes up very, very often too.. I'm like used to it now.. but I'm just so SHOCKED to see that someone else has these time coincidences 'cause I thought it was just the whack-est, oddest thing..! Wow!
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
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I was reading again this thread (because I translate it in french for my blog) and, it may be nothing, but i "found" this :



what do you guys think about that ?


Well I will be partying in Amsterdam after we won the World Cup on July 11, so I think I will miss all the fun in that case! It sure is interesting.

Sorry, I checked again. It was posted on 11:11 pacific time. As far as I know that has something to do with guardian angels letting you know they are there. But I also recall it's a wake up call to remind yourself of your true purpose here on earth.

Weird thing is that I have seen the exact time of 11:11 about three times this week, maybe even four times. At least enough to make me notice the strange coincidence.



ohhhh that is interesting. i've never heard of that theory. all i know about 11:11 is that you're supposed to make a wish. that's why if my friends and i are together and we happen to look at the clock and it's that time, we yell "11:11, MAKE A WISH"

it's supposed to come true.
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Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "~Souza~"
Quote from: "NeVrOzAy"
I was reading again this thread (because I translate it in french for my blog) and, it may be nothing, but i "found" this :



what do you guys think about that ?


Well I will be partying in Amsterdam after we won the World Cup on July 11, so I think I will miss all the fun in that case! It sure is interesting.

Sorry, I checked again. It was posted on 11:11 pacific time. As far as I know that has something to do with guardian angels letting you know they are there. But I also recall it's a wake up call to remind yourself of your true purpose here on earth.

Weird thing is that I have seen the exact time of 11:11 about three times this week, maybe even four times. At least enough to make me notice the strange coincidence.


Oh yep, i remembered that when i went to sleep last night, i have to change the time i see on the forum for pacific time

In my case, it's hours like 2:00, 11:00, 4:00, you know...  :!:
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That information is possible in this redirection of January and now is that someone saw informcion Will there be more of that kind in all other redirects ?,... must be re-read :geek:

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I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve.  I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.

TS why would you expect the BAM like the rest of us?

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Wow! my head has remained vent! I must say that everything I've seen so far outside this forum, people said "know" has been a fraud. So if here and said TS was tested after my reberencias for him and all members who have worked hard here. I came to this forum with an open mind and Hoax aware that this is serious, and if MJ took this road, was for the same reasons (although I have not read the possible reasons). There is one point that I disagree and it's a return of Mj (not that I want, I hope every day of my life) but I feel that this would be terrible for Mj, fans will support him always, but there are many people even after his "death" is still attacking, imagine what it would be if he returns. blessings
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I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve.  I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.

TS why would you expect the BAM like the rest of us?

What has kept this hoax going from mid-2009 until now and beyond is that there is always hope the BAM could happen at anytime...but NOT YET, obviously, since MJ hasn't come back yet (in an undeniable way) for any of the past "predicted" dates.  I mean, the thought of a 2012 return seemed SO FAR AWAY back in 2009.  And now it's less than a month until 2012.  That is so crazy and awesome at the same time.  Potential dates had to come and go in order to keep people's interest, to feed the fire...and obviously the return is that much more anticipated and mind-blowing.

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I think Gina's point is... why would TS say he "didn't really expect anything [to happen]" on Christmas and New Years 09/10 when he presumes to know when and what will happen. Correct me if I am wrong please, Gina.
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I think Gina's point is... why would TS say he "didn't really expect anything [to happen]" on Christmas and New Years 09/10 when he presumes to know when and what will happen. Correct me if I am wrong please, Gina.

That's how I interpreted her ....and that's a really good question.
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Although before anyone thinks I am accusing TS of anything, I want to point out that TS knew the trial would be delayed last spring and has appeared to receive support from the Family over the years. He also told us about the Dangerous autograph in spring 2010 and explained the numerology of the hoax when NO ONE else had been able to make sense of it (or even noticed half of it) in over 8 months of hoax. Just to keep it in perspective.

But it's still a good question.
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I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve.  I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.


TS why would you expect the BAM like the rest of us?

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1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example
 
 Although the majority of comments about TIAI have been very positive, yet there have been several complaints and objections that need to be addressed.  But before getting into any further details, let me tell a short story.  Whether it is true or not isn’t important—the point is still the same; nevertheless, it was told to me as a true story.
 
 The Lynyrd Skynyrd band was eating in a restaurant one day, when someone put money in the jukebox and picked “Sweet Home Alabama”.  Then the band chimed in, and started singing along.  Soon the man who paid for the song on the jukebox asked them to stop singing, because this was his favourite song—and he wanted to hear thereal band singing it, not them!  The band kindly stopped singing; but when they were leaving, they asked the waitress (who knew that they were Lynyrd Skynryd) to let the jukebox man know who they really were—once they were gone.
 
 I think that the point to the story is obvious.  Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think.  In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!


Gina, I have a question for you.  Why did TS post this story?
MJ is the beloved ONE discussed on this forum.  We think TS is just a normal member, and we are wanting to hear from the "REAL" MJ. When TS is gone, we will realize that MJ was truly in our midst.  Is there any other reason for TS telling this story?
It has not only been TS leading us on with his carrot of immediate BAM dates, to give us hope, faith and stamina, but right from the start if you will recall at the Memorial they sang:

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Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King (3 times) Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.
No more crying there, we are going to see the King (3 times) Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.[/l]
Then at the 02 announcement he said, "See you in July!", with no year, and on and on.  It's all deliberate, and it's all MJ.
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I think Gina's point is... why would TS say he "didn't really expect anything [to happen]" on Christmas and New Years 09/10 when he presumes to know when and what will happen. Correct me if I am wrong please, Gina.

you are not wrong
and I don't want you guys to think I don't trust TS, you all know I admire TS very much, but I didn't understand why he/she made that statement.

@MJonmind I got your point and I agree some people would probably be shocked to know the real Michael Jackson and maybe they would even oppose to him too.
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MJonmind, if that's the case, then perhaps he is done leading us on.
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I didn’t really expect anything on Christmas or New Years Eve.  I did include these as possible dates, mostly because so many people were expecting it.


TS why would you expect the BAM like the rest of us?

TS
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1-11. The Lynyrd Skynyrd Example
 
 Although the majority of comments about TIAI have been very positive, yet there have been several complaints and objections that need to be addressed.  But before getting into any further details, let me tell a short story.  Whether it is true or not isn’t important—the point is still the same; nevertheless, it was told to me as a true story.
 
 The Lynyrd Skynyrd band was eating in a restaurant one day, when someone put money in the jukebox and picked “Sweet Home Alabama”.  Then the band chimed in, and started singing along.  Soon the man who paid for the song on the jukebox asked them to stop singing, because this was his favourite song—and he wanted to hear thereal band singing it, not them!  The band kindly stopped singing; but when they were leaving, they asked the waitress (who knew that they were Lynyrd Skynryd) to let the jukebox man know who they really were—once they were gone.
 
 I think that the point to the story is obvious.  Some hoax believers don’t know MJ quite as well as they might think.  In fact, if MJ were here personally on these forums, some of the MJ “fans” would reject what he said and even say unkind things to him—and not even realize that it was him!


Gina, I have a question for you.  Why did TS post this story?
MJ is the beloved ONE discussed on this forum.  We think TS is just a normal member, and we are wanting to hear from the "REAL" MJ. When TS is gone, we will realize that MJ was truly in our midst.  Is there any other reason for TS telling this story?
It has not only been TS leading us on with his carrot of immediate BAM dates, to give us hope, faith and stamina, but right from the start if you will recall at the Memorial they sang:

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Soon and very soon, we are going to see the King (3 times) Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.
No more crying there, we are going to see the King (3 times) Hallelujah! Hallelujah! We're going to see the King.[/l]
Then at the 02 announcement he said, "See you in July!", with no year, and on and on.  It's all deliberate, and it's all MJ.

MJonmind,

I agree with you, (for what it's worth,) .........TS had to let us hanging on at that time. i think it was needed at that time to keep the hope and the attention to the message. When time past by, we have better understanding of the hoax and the why's to help Michael...when he needs us.
“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.”
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the main question for me is now: Does TS and Michael think we are understanding the why's (hoax) enough now. And do they think that we are ready to help?
“In a world filled with hate, we must still dare to hope. In a world filled with anger, we must still dare to comfort. In a world filled with despair, we must still dare to dream. And in a world filled with distrust, we must still dare to believe.”
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I think Gina's point is... why would TS say he "didn't really expect anything [to happen]" on Christmas and New Years 09/10 when he presumes to know when and what will happen. Correct me if I am wrong please, Gina.


I think, if MJ did really hoax for a serious reason and at the same time made "a phenomenal show" out of it, that "people never have seen before" (see trialtape recorded by Murray, MJ being so called under influence of sedatives), then TS HAS to confuse so now and then for safety reasons and for reasons we do not know, but in which we trust!

@jonmind Gina, I have a question for you.  Why did TS post this story?
MJ is the beloved ONE discussed on this forum.  We think TS is just a normal member, and we are wanting to hear from the "REAL" MJ. When TS is gone, we will realize that MJ was truly in our midst.  Is there any other reason for TS telling this story?
It has not only been TS leading us on with his carrot of immediate BAM dates, to give us hope, faith and stamina, but right from the start if you will recall at the Memorial they sang:

I totally agree with you jonmind, let us not forget to look back, the script is huge, I think it truly will take 4 years to get it right!And whatever will happen by then, I will never forget the deep love and inspirations that I experienced through Michael and the members of this forum (and souza and Mo of course!) by spending these years here. I know I dont write much cause I hardly have time for it, but I keep myself updated as far as possible!Thanks to all of you who take the efforts to really dig in and sort out, without your contributions these develepemonts wouldn`t have been possible!! Love to you all!!

















 

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