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Re: watch how propofol works
January 16, 2010, 03:16:28 PM
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@ dancing the dreams  dont get upset that guy was fine and pratically this happens many times  that how doctors revive their patients ,sometimes the moniter shows flat line and it seems the patient is gone but through defibrillator  i.v drugs and Cpr the heart gets back to its normal rhythum .  
     as far as mj concern and his propofol i think you can read my first post you will feel fine and after reading that you can draw your own conclusion how this story unfits here
                                                                     take care of you God bless


Thanks.  Think ive just had a bad week.   I just cant believe MJ took that drug.   :(
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 16, 2010, 03:20:32 PM
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 16, 2010, 04:23:23 PM
i wonder, after all this whether propofol will be reclassified as a controlled substance.
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 16, 2010, 04:33:43 PM
I have always thought  this is so weird I dont believe it , when it was first announcedthen i am afraid i got a bit angry with Michael I thought how could he do that to his children that only lasted for a few seconds because it is so unbelievable I had never heard of anybody using this before apart from hospitals , so  confused
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 16, 2010, 04:41:17 PM
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i wonder, after all this whether propofol will be reclassified as a controlled substance.

I think your spot on.
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 16, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
You'd think that if Michael wanted this sh*t administered, he wanted to die. No way. This is all so insane.
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 02:52:11 PM
but the complication of this case
    1. is we dont know if dr murray ever warn mj about possible complications
  2, what if mj only know  " :few : side effects like allergic reaction , burning ,dizziness ,temporary memory loss etc
 
 3.   what if mj knew all the aspects of propofol use but still insisted dr murray to treat his insomnia
 
        i remember a post by a member showing a hand writting of mj with the note saying "if i take two vials i will be okay but if accident  happen ...... something like that i dont remember , so  i m left the  the impressionon if mj knew but ...
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:01:57 PM
Quote from: "mjj_fan"
but the complication of this case
    1. is we dont know if dr murray ever warn mj about possible complications
  2, what if mj only know  " :few : side effects like allergic reaction , burning ,dizziness ,temporary memory loss etc
 
 3.   what if mj knew all the aspects of propofol use but still insisted dr murray to treat his insomnia
 
        i remember a post by a member showing a hand writting of mj with the note saying "if i take two vials i will be okay but if accident  happen ...... something like that i dont remember , so has that  the impressionon me  as if mj knew but ...

didn't that nurse warn him about propofol!! she was on an interview where she said she'd warned him about it.. plus if he was addicted to it as they are saying then he would know about the burning and other side effects cos he'd been on it for sooo long..

nothing adds up with this.. if this is not a HOAX and its all true then Michael was a foolish man.. sorry to say it but its the truth!!

if it is a Hoax then maybe he should have looked into something a bit more convincing than a drug that isn't addictive an maybe something more portant.. or just got lost at sea!! its all crazy!!! :roll:
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:04:09 PM
@LisaP.   It is IMPOSSIBLE to become addicted to Propofol.  A medical impossibility.  Its is not addictive.
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:06:19 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
@LisaP.   It is IMPOSSIBLE to become addicted to Propofol.  A medical impossibility.  Its is not addictive.

that was my point... why not use something more convincing.. that would make people believe he was addicted to it!!
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:27:04 PM
@ dancing the dreams      new studies made  on propofol   say it has potential for addiction though it acts  on receptors other then benzodiazepines in old  medical  books its written the mode of action is unknown .but i think they will upgrade them but if any medical book saysit doesnt .let me know
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:34:50 PM
It's an interesting information because the propofol adiction sounds unusual to me. When I first heard it I thought: "poor man, what happened to him, he became addicted to anesthetic!!!?". But how long was he addicted? If he was addicted, when he became addicted? Who provided him with the injections previously if it was not dr. CM? This propofol story doesn't make sense, hope it's all really  a hoax.
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:37:58 PM
thats what i m saying from  the day one i know about ketamine abuse  , i know sodium thiosulphate abuse  but when i  heard about it w was :shock:
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:39:24 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
@LisaP.   It is IMPOSSIBLE to become addicted to Propofol.  A medical impossibility.  Its is not addictive.

Addiction is poorly documented but,I have come across one case (from 1992) of an anesthesiologists who was addicted to propofol. Other medical literature I have read states that addicts tend to be health care workers who have access to this substance. The euphoric effects of propofol may be one of the reasons that some chose to abuse it. I do not believe that Michael was abusing Propofol for its euphoric effects though.
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Re: watch how propofol works
January 17, 2010, 03:41:59 PM
Sure, you can get psychologically addicted to it.  You can get psychologically addicted to anything.

Thing is, i have heard that Murray was trying to "wean" MJ off it - which i find ridiculous.  There would be no need to "wean" him off it, as there would be no physical side effects to him just stopping taking it.  He wouldnt have gone through cold turkey or anything like this.
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