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One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 12:49:53 PM
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Michael Jackson: 'One side of my body is hot, it's hot, and one side of my body is cold. It's very cold,'"

LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Michael Jackson was so distraught over persistent insomnia in recent months that he pleaded for a powerful sedative despite warnings it could be harmful, says a nutritionist who was working with the singer as he prepared his comeback bid.

Cherilyn Lee, a registered nurse whose specialty includes nutritional counseling, said Tuesday that she repeatedly rejected his demands for the drug, Diprivan, which is given intravenously.

But a frantic phone call she received from Jackson four days before his death made her fear that he somehow obtained Diprivan or another drug to induce sleep, Lee said.

While in Florida on June 21, Lee was contacted by a member of Jackson's staff.

"He called and was very frantic and said, `Michael needs to see you right away.' I said, 'What's wrong?' And I could hear Michael in the background ..., 'One side of my body is hot, it's hot, and one side of my body is cold. It's very cold,'" Lee said.

"I said, `Tell him he needs to go the hospital. I don't know what's going on, but he needs to go to the hospital ... right away."

"At that point, I knew that somebody had given him something that hit the central nervous system," she said, adding, "He was in trouble Sunday and he was crying out."

Jackson did not go to the hospital. He died June 25 after suffering cardiac arrest, his family said. Autopsies have been conducted, but an official cause of death is not expected for several weeks.

"I don't know what happened there. The only thing I can say is he was adamant about this drug," Lee said.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 05:03:26 PM
Thank you for your post, will have to give this some serious thought :?  

Will have to do some research, but very interesting and thank you for the time and effort you have put into this.


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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 05:13:21 PM
i still dont know why he would call a nurse if his dr was there :?  i mean he had to of given it to him in the first place! :?  :?
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 05:54:06 PM
its wierd cos one of genavivejacksons tweets said read Michaels lyrics to You're Just Another Part Of Me, the truth is in the song
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 07:30:38 PM
If the bloody nurse was that worried about him, why didnt she get in her car and drive to MJ and then call an ambulance herself?????
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 09:29:41 PM
I find your post very interesting; but would you mind explaining your point in dummy terms? LOL
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 10:18:20 PM
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 24, 2010, 10:44:34 PM
Very interesting. Thanks for sharing your observations from that point of view.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 12:10:58 AM
Thanks for the information.  Wow, I am shocked that MJ was not rushed to the hospital. :shock:  :shock:  This is simply horrible! :shock:  :shock:
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 12:24:52 AM
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Jackson did not go to the hospital. He died June 25 after suffering cardiac arrest, his family said. quote]
 :lol:  i love how they said..."his family said" heehee not according to doctors or according to the UCLA but according to "his family" heehee i love that part...But it ouched me when she said he was crying out...but how could that day have to do with his death on the 25th if he were crying out that means he knew he went over the line...why would he continue if he was crying out and WHY WOULD THEY KEEP GIVING HIM DRUGS AFTER THAT HAD HAPPENED!!! GOSH THINGS LIKE THIS MAKE ME VERY UPSET IF HE IS REALLY GONE :evil:
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 12:58:53 AM
Okay, I know this sounds bad and I heard her all over the T.V. within 24 hrs of his supposed demise. Let's break this nonsense down shall we? Please bare with me. Nurse/well she claims to be a nurse, said she received this call and Michael was in great distress. She didn't know what was wrong but she knew it was something that hit his nervous system. Wow! She is good! She was able to completely diagnose Sweet MJ over the phone. Truth is, there are many reasons a person could have that sort of reaction. Being a RN and Certified PA (this is what she claims to be) she should know to stay on the phone with the caller and grab another phone and contact EMS! Anyone who claims to be a medical professional knows the protocol. Let's also exam what else Ms. Lee didn't know. She told LK that she had never her of the drug Micheal asked her for. Please!!! I am ready to explode her! She is an RN and she's never heard of Diprivan?!!! Every and I mean every RN knows about this drug. Medications are what they do for crying out loud. Every RN is trained in a medical surgical unit before being certified. They get the patients directly from the the operating room where this drug is widely used. The RN has to know her stuff once she takes that pt. Most of the time a patient has a surgeon and a general/family practice doctor among others. She must know every medication that pt has been given in the OR and the ones that all docs are ordering. She is the go between the doctors, pharmacy and the patient. She has great knowledge of drug interactions and will many times inform the doctor/doctors of interactions. The first thing she'll do is check and see what pre op meds a pt had and what was given during surgery and in recovery. Diprivan is a very common drug. It is like a nurse saying she doesn't know what Penicillin is! She told LK she had never heard of this drug and had to check it out in her PDR. Physician Desk Reference. Nurses are walking PDR's!! Sure they may not be familiar with every medication but the most common ones every nurse knows and has at least heard of it. She came out talking this mess very quickly then she was gone! The point it, she is a fake. She wanted to get this medication into the minds of the public rapidly. She is part of this hoax. She knows nothing about nursing and you can take that to the bank.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 01:27:49 AM
Wow......I did a little more research and found this.

http://www.attorneyatlaw.com/2009/07/did-contaminated-anesthetic-propofol-diprivan-kill-the-king-of-pop/

Did Contaminated Anesthetic Propofol (Diprivan) Kill the King of Pop?
Two lots of propofol, the generic name for the potent anesthetic Diprivan, have been recalled because of bacterial contamination found in samples of the drug as authorities investigating the passing of pop star Michael Jackson cite the drug’s possible role in his death.


Teva Pharmaceuticals, the maker of propofol, said today that the Drug Enforcement Administration has asked the company about a specific batch of the drug. Investigators reportedly found propofol, which normally is not found or administered outside hospitals, in the Beverly Hills home where Jackson was living and found dead on June 25.

The drug company has recalled two lots of propofol after an examination found bacterial contamination in some samples. Those tainted batches of the drug have been linked to about 40 cases of patients in Florida, Arizona, and Missouri developing chills and fevers after being given the drug during surgery.

The vials of propofol the DEA is asking Teva about in connection with the Jackson case are from different batches than those recalled due to bacterial contamination, officials said.

Prescription and over-the-counter drugs which are defectively manufactured and contain bacterial contamination or other impurities are to blame for hundreds of patient deaths and injuries each year.

Since Jackson’s shocking death, wild rumors about his frequent use of prescription painkillers and the anesthetic propofol in order to get to sleep have filled Internet message boards. Now, it appears the DEA is at least looking into the possibility that the King of Pop died because of contaminated drugs.


I guess my thought is if he is possibly dead, is it possible that someone did something to contaminate the vials???
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 05:29:05 AM
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One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

Do you think that could be a geographical hint in some way?...   :?
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 06:43:37 AM
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One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

Do you think that could be a geographical hint in some way?...   :?

Ahhhh, Finally!!! :D  I'd written it in my first post, but I removed it because I wanted to see if anyone else picked up on that.  :D I'll repost some of what I'd written now.. What made me connect this was The Sun card which always appeared in my tarot readings representing Michael.

June Solstice.
It is known as the summer (HOT) solstice in the northern hemisphere contrary to the southern hemisphere, where it is known as the winter (COLD) solstice. Its date varies from June 20 to June 22, depending on the year. In 2009 it landed on 21st of June.  ;)

23rd June footage: They don't really care about us "Hold for applause.. Hold for applause.. Slow Umbrella (Michael used umbrellas in the sun).. fade out. " This, for me, is like watching the sunset.

Midsummers day is 24th June. The longest day before the tragedy. Therefore the Midsummer nights dream (read your Shakespeare) would be through the night leading into the 25th. Some have said this isn't so much a dream but a nightmare. William Shakespeare was best known for writing tragedies...  :cry:  ;)

Florida is known as the sunshine state.  ..

There's more but I want to see what significant dates and earthly events people think of now.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 07:13:38 AM
Im in the uk,and last night a program came on tv called,michael jackson....the last days,they spoke to the nurse on camera and she said michael had asked her for that drug (dipravan)not sure of spelling :oops: ,and she said no michael you dont want to be doin that,she more or less told him not to touch it,but yet ive just read she didnt know what it was  :? ,she also said she did a blood test,and and it was fine,she said if he had been taking drugs,somthing would have showed up, :? im sorry i cant think of peoples names on the program last night,but they were all saying different things,i know one interveiw was with diane sawyer think thats her name,and she said he was popping 40 to 50 pills a day, :twisted: ,one person said he was healthy,and ready for the concerts from what he could see,another on said he was a dancing xray, :?  :? i didnt know it was on,i came across it while flicking through the channels.the nurse seems to be saying two different things. :?
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 09:22:47 AM
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Im in the uk,and last night a program came on tv called,michael jackson....the last days,they spoke to the nurse on camera and she said michael had asked her for that drug (dipravan)not sure of spelling :oops: ,and she said no michael you dont want to be doin that,she more or less told him not to touch it,but yet ive just read she didnt know what it was  :? ,she also said she did a blood test,and and it was fine,she said if he had been taking drugs,somthing would have showed up, :? im sorry i cant think of peoples names on the program last night,but they were all saying different things,i know one interveiw was with diane sawyer think thats her name,and she said he was popping 40 to 50 pills a day, :twisted: ,one person said he was healthy,and ready for the concerts from what he could see,another on said he was a dancing xray, :?  :? i didnt know it was on,i came across it while flicking through the channels.the nurse seems to be saying two different things. :?

Well, I've heard that propofol leaves the system quickly and perhaps that's why the blood test came out as normal. However the stories are still contradicting eachother because if he was taking the massive amount of drugs that some people suggest that would definitely show in a blood test. Oh, one more thing don't believe one word of what Diane Sawyer has to say about Michael, she's pure evil.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 06:14:41 PM
If we take a deep breath and believe that MJ really has died... and that it may have been from contaminated propofol.. could this be the reason Dr Murray hasnt been arrested?
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 06:30:09 PM
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If we take a deep breath and believe that MJ really has died... and that it may have been from contaminated propofol.. could this be the reason Dr Murray hasnt been arrested?


I would think not since on his "death certificate" it says that he died from acute propofol intoxication - which means too much, not that it was tainted.  

2nd - If he had been given propofol tainted with bacteria he would have had a bacterial infection which has symptoms as stated above - fever, chills, etc.  I don't think it would have happened suddenly as bacteria takes time to multiply.

3rd - If Michael's blood tests came up negative for other medications according to this nurse - meaning Michael wasn't taking them, then why would he request propofol?!?!  I thought the propofol was a last ditch effort to get to sleep because all the other medications he was supposed to be taking didn't work?   :?

I agree that what this nurse is saying doesn't add up.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 06:55:53 PM
Michael could have experienced those same sensations due to disc herniation in his back pressing on his spine and causing spinal stenosis.  That could cause the sensation of exaggerated temperature sensations depending on which vertebrae were affected.  If he was also severely dehydrated and/or tired the symptoms are likely worsened.  I have cervical disc disease and the main symptom I have when those discs are compromised by certain movement is the sensation of  an  after burn and.  The skin is actually cool to the touch, but you feel a burn as if you have been scalded with a hot liquid.  It's like burning yourself with hot cooking oil.  It is  awful, but it does go away after a time with rest and when extreme Ibuprofen.  It's the body's way of telling you that your nerves somewhere along the spinal canal are being compromised.  I keep thinking about his fall and the way he can contort that body. Those moves could be hell on someone suffering from disc disease.   He really should have been seeing a neurologist instead of a cardiologist.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 07:17:16 PM
I think you are right---this is some kind of clue.  I think most of us have long dismissed the nurse/propofol thing. I do believe she was in on the hoax. No "real" nurse would have gone on TV so soon and actually she was critical to the hoax because she was the first to "plant" the propofol thing. After that, all of the media was picking up on it.

Back to the one side hot and one side cold...could that be referring to earth and the equator? One side hot and one side cold depending on where you are geographically?

I hope you all pursue this because I think it's a major clue, especially since it was one of the first ones we got. I have been thinking that maybe we should go back to some of those early interviews since at the time most of us weren't looking for clues (at least I wasn't.)

Thanks for bringing this up again.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 07:27:36 PM
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If we take a deep breath and believe that MJ really has died... and that it may have been from contaminated propofol.. could this be the reason Dr Murray hasnt been arrested?

Idk about that. Dr Murray disappeared from the crime scene and this anaestethic is not supposed to be administred outside of hospitals so I think that would make him a suspect don't you think? And according to his story he left Michael I while right and I think a patient that's been given propofol is supposed to be monitored at all times. If what we've heard is true it would mean that Dr Murray has not been doing his job properly and should definitely be charged with something and no way in hell should he still be practising!  :evil:
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 28, 2010, 07:40:55 PM
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One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

Do you think that could be a geographical hint in some way?...   :?

Ahhhh, Finally!!! :D  I'd written it in my first post, but I removed it because I wanted to see if anyone else picked up on that.  :D I'll repost some of what I'd written now.. What made me connect this was The Sun card which always appeared in my tarot readings representing Michael.

June Solstice.
It is known as the summer (HOT) solstice in the northern hemisphere contrary to the southern hemisphere, where it is known as the winter (COLD) solstice. Its date varies from June 20 to June 22, depending on the year. In 2009 it landed on 21st of June.  ;)

23rd June footage: They don't really care about us "Hold for applause.. Hold for applause.. Slow Umbrella (Michael used umbrellas in the sun).. fade out. " This, for me, is like watching the sunset.

Midsummers day is 24th June. The longest day before the tragedy. Therefore the Midsummer nights dream (read your Shakespeare) would be through the night leading into the 25th. Some have said this isn't so much a dream but a nightmare. William Shakespeare was best known for writing tragedies...  :cry:  ;)

Florida is known as the sunshine state.  ..

There's more but I want to see what significant dates and earthly events people think of now.


That`s great - thanks for posting, Melzy!

Yes, I am also aware of numeous (co-)incidents with a "second" meaning, hidden messages or - more or less obvious - distractions.

And right, the whole hoax-choreoraphy is soooo shakespearesque ...  :)  :)
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 29, 2010, 01:03:13 AM
Humm, I was thinking more about this HOT/COLD thing last night after my post about nurse Lee. I felt her credibility should have been questioned when I first heard her story. Aside from that, you all bring up excellent points about the secondary meanings of this. Well Hot could be, ALIVE! When you are alive you are warm 98.6 degrees. To be COLD may be referring to being DEAD, hence the hot and cold. So to those that have searched and done their homework sorta speak he is alive. To those that beLIEve everything the media says he is in fact dead.
Keep up the good work everyone.
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Re: One side is very hot - the other is very cold..

  • on: January 29, 2010, 01:18:41 AM
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Wow......I did a little more research and found this.

http://www.attorneyatlaw.com/2009/07/did-contaminated-anesthetic-propofol-diprivan-kill-the-king-of-pop/

Did Contaminated Anesthetic Propofol (Diprivan) Kill the King of Pop?
Two lots of propofol, the generic name for the potent anesthetic Diprivan, have been recalled because of bacterial contamination found in samples of the drug as authorities investigating the passing of pop star Michael Jackson cite the drug’s possible role in his death.


Teva Pharmaceuticals, the maker of propofol, said today that the Drug Enforcement Administration has asked the company about a specific batch of the drug. Investigators reportedly found propofol, which normally is not found or administered outside hospitals, in the Beverly Hills home where Jackson was living and found dead on June 25.

The drug company has recalled two lots of propofol after an examination found bacterial contamination in some samples. Those tainted batches of the drug have been linked to about 40 cases of patients in Florida, Arizona, and Missouri developing chills and fevers after being given the drug during surgery.

The vials of propofol the DEA is asking Teva about in connection with the Jackson case are from different batches than those recalled due to bacterial contamination, officials said.

Prescription and over-the-counter drugs which are defectively manufactured and contain bacterial contamination or other impurities are to blame for hundreds of patient deaths and injuries each year.

Since Jackson’s shocking death, wild rumors about his frequent use of prescription painkillers and the anesthetic propofol in order to get to sleep have filled Internet message boards. Now, it appears the DEA is at least looking into the possibility that the King of Pop died because of contaminated drugs.


I guess my thought is if he is possibly dead, is it possible that someone did something to contaminate the vials???

First of all, I would like to say that everyone here is doing a wonderful job with all the interesting research and insightful comments.  God bless each one of you! ;)  Interesting article.
Thank you for posting.  I have never heard of the contaminated drug vital theory before :shock: ! Everyday, it is a new rollercoaster ride! :shock:  I still believe that MJ is alive because the pieces of the jigsaw still do not added up! ;)
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