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No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 01:44:22 PM
From the old forum, Shikster brought up the no defib argument. Not only was there no defib present at MJs house, despite the fact that Dr. Murray is a cardiologist, but also Dr. Murray refused to allow EMTs to defib MJ at the scene or on the way to the hospital.

Why would this be? If it truly was MJ's dead body laying there and Dr. Murray indeed believed he was facing manslaughter charges, what justification is there for not zapping that corpse into next week?
This simple fact alone makes me believe either we have MJ in make up playing dead on the bed, or an extremely realitstic Hollywood style dummy that Dr. Murray was afraid would catch on fire or melt.

(Originally posted 8-4-09, brought here because I think it's an important bit for folks to remember, especially considering recent Dr. Murray events in the news. Since I posted this on MJKit, I have disregarded the dummy theory. Just an example of what further research can begin to reveal to you if you remain focused on common sense and logic.)
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 01:48:02 PM
well as far as im concerned there was no real doctor present either :lol:
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 01:49:38 PM
thats what i was thinking. but i have a relative who is an Emt. he says debribulator are for shocking the heart back into rhythm so maybe the Dr. didnt find use for it. i have no idea. i wish i had some kinda medical experience.

didnt they say Michael had a faint pulse? how come he didnt give him oxygen?
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 01:53:51 PM
He refused it :shock:  i didnt know that at all:P well hes a fake doctor anyway :lol:  HOAXXXX :P
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 01:58:16 PM
well IMO there's definatly something a miss here!! if the Dr refused the de-fib then he had reason.. like u said a dummy, or not MJ, or someone acting dead!!

this brings me to the Dr definatly knowing that he was not going to get blamed for the death of MJ.. otherwise.. PANIC STATIONS all round de-fibbing so to speak left right an centre!!

this is a positive for us investigators i think!!!
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 02:15:14 PM
Dr Murray use this product to check Michael's heartbeat/pulse:
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Wow, I would feel safe having that one! Screw ECG....  :x
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 02:21:40 PM
If I had a nickel for all the nonsensical occurrences that seem to spew from Conrad Murray,
I could probably pay for college..
 :lol:
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 02:27:49 PM
Quote from: "Nathalia"
If I had a nickel for all the nonsensical occurrences that seem to spew from Conrad Murray,
I could probably pay for college..
 :lol:
or pay his baby mama :lol:  :lol:
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 02:44:44 PM
Well, if you believe them, according to Murrary and nurse at hospital, his heart was still beating but he wasn't breathing, so I guess you wouldn't use a defib.  IDK
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 02:52:54 PM
Quote from: "alive"
Well, if you believe them, according to Murrary and nurse at hospital, his heart was still beating but he wasn't breathing, so I guess you wouldn't use a defib.  IDK

i dunno but if this would the case then would you do CPR?? and work on him for over an hour!! i've read loads of stuff on CPR an everyone is different!!

i'm just confused!!  :?
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 03:04:29 PM
Quote from: "SPAKKLE29FUL"
Quote from: "Nathalia"
If I had a nickel for all the nonsensical occurrences that seem to spew from Conrad Murray,
I could probably pay for college..
 :lol:
or pay his baby mama :lol:  :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
very true! i hear she really needs the money, rotfl!!!
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 03:12:53 PM
Quote from: "alive"
Well, if you believe them, according to Murrary and nurse at hospital, his heart was still beating but he wasn't breathing, so I guess you wouldn't use a defib.  IDK



so in one instance he knew a defib wasnt needed for the situation though he doesnt know how to administer CPR properly. is he a real doctor or not? sheesh.. lol
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 29, 2009, 04:07:00 PM
Another thing that doesn´t add up...
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 30, 2009, 02:48:25 PM
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WHAT DO YOU THINK?
"supply of supplemental oxygen, artificial ventilation and cardiovascular resuscitation are not available"
MAYBE THE DOCTORS MUST USE SOME ANTIDOT, OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT KNOWING THAT WAS PROPOFOL, I READ SOMETHING ABOUT THAT OF A DOCTOR MOUTH....
AND THE AMBULANCE PICTURE??? :roll:  :?:
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Re: No defibrulator present on 6-25
November 30, 2009, 02:54:22 PM
With the picture of Michael's supposed "death bed" in the media was, there was an aerial bag with instructions ....... what this should Murray must the instruction before study ... the guy is impossibly a doctor...


Sorry my English, I not always knows like one says a little bit properly :oops:
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