Mafia

[mjboogie]

Guys I am just wondering. Does anyone here think that the Mafia may have something to do with MJ? Like isnt Tommy Mottola, Malnik, and Brett Ratner somehow involved in the Mafia? Just wondering, throwing it out here. Because wasnt Tommy really mad when MJ spoke out against him. Do we have any interviews with Tommy commenting on MJ's speech? :shock:

[SmellyJelly]

I don't think that the Mafia has any inplication in Michael's life....the Mafia is too dangerous for him.That's how I think.
If someone involved in Mafia has a relationship whit Michael, Michael took care to get rid of that person. He did it with Tommy Motolla and with many others people.
Now is somewhere, and if he has someone by his side, that someone is a true friend.He needs a true friend to help him to stay back a while. :?

[Bee Bee]

People threatened by mafia often get involved in witness protection programs, though...

[Crescendo]

People threatened by mafia often get involved in witness protection programs, though...

Exactly. I've been pondering that complete idea but I didn't know how to bring it up. :?

[Crescendo]

i found this about Malnik possibly have ties with the mafia
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Poor Poor Michael. I love him. I wish he would have had 1, just 1, good loyal friend who would have gone with him the extra mile. :cry:

[mjboogie]

Didnt someone say MJ owed a debt to a royal family in Bahrain? I mean or that he had a music contract and some prince of Bahrain allowed MJ to stay with him after the trials? IDK just putting it out here. For some reason I can see how Tommy Mottola could somehow be linked to the mafia.

[MichaelJackson123]

I saw a video where Tommy was talking after MJ-death and HE WAS SOOO CALM...relaxed one could say..suspicious..

[GirlSaturday]

It has been reported for many decades that the Mafia has a firm hand within the entertainment business. My favorite movie ...Godfather...made clear connections between the Mafia and celebrities.

I saw the same video and Tommy was too calm and smooth for my taste. It was pretty creepy to watch. Does anyone know if Tommy ever gave interviews during MJs public criticism of him. If so, I'd like to read or see them. If a person  is being publicly criticized and they are innocent then I would expect the person to speak up. However, if they are guilty I would expect the person to sit quietly in hopes that the criticism would go away. Tommy is a heavy weight in the music business. I do know that Russell Simmons came to his defense. Some others may have but i cannot recall their names.

I saw a video where Tommy was talking after MJ-death and HE WAS SOOO CALM...relaxed one could say..suspicious..

[Infinitylady]

GirlSaturday » Thu Jan 28, 2010 3:53 pm

It has been reported for many decades that the Mafia has a firm hand within the entertainment business. My favorite movie ...Godfather...made clear connections between the Mafia and celebrities.
I saw the same video and Tommy was too calm and smooth for my taste. It was pretty creepy to watch. Does anyone know if Tommy ever gave interviews during MJs public criticism of him. If so, I'd like to read or see them. If a person is being publicly criticized and they are innocent then I would expect the person to speak up. However, if they are guilty I would expect the person to sit quietly in hopes that the criticism would go away. Tommy is a heavy weight in the music business. I do know that Russell Simmons came to his defense. Some others may have but i cannot recall their names.

MichaelJackson123 wrote:
I saw a video where Tommy was talking after MJ-death and HE WAS SOOO CALM...relaxed one could say..suspicious..

Yes, I agree. I had a minister who was once part of the music industry shared this.  He didn't go in much detail but did say that he noticed mafia involved in the music industry that he was involved in at one time.

[Raven]

People threatened by mafia often get involved in witness protection programs, though...

Xactly

[Gone too soon]

Well, I´ve been wondering for months why noone in media has addressed the fact that Michael was involved with the Las Vegas mob - he and two of his brothers. (Don´t know which ones, but I´ll take a guess that Jermaine is one of them). Most of Michael´s bodyguards came from the mob and quite a few of the shady characters he surrounded himself with.

In the end of the 90´s Michael signed a contract with the mafia giving them total control of his finances.
He needed his career back on track again and so did something that he most likely came to regret.
After what I´ve heard, he owed them a lot of money.

So, based on that info, whatever happened on the 25th June COULD be linked to the mafia. Or not

[Raven]

Well, I´ve been wondering for months why noone in media has addressed the fact that Michael was involved with the Las Vegas mob - he and two of his brothers. (Don´t know which ones, but I´ll take a guess that Jermaine is one of them). Most of Michael´s bodyguards came from the mob and quite a few of the shady characters he surrounded himself with.

In the end of the 90´s Michael signed a contract with the mafia giving them total control of his finances.
He needed his career back on track again and so did something that he most likely came to regret.
After what I´ve heard, he owed them a lot of money.

So, based on that info, whatever happened on the 25th June COULD be linked to the mafia. Or not

Actually there have been some articles on that, such as:
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[Gone too soon]

Oh thanks, hadn´t seen that.

It´s just too bad Michael hooked up with those guys.
"If you play with fire....."  

If this IS a hoax, then the mob are the only ones (apart from the Feds) who could pull it through.

[Raven]

Oh thanks, hadn´t seen that.

It´s just too bad Michael hooked up with those guys.
"If you play with fire....."  

If this IS a hoax, then the mob are the only ones (apart from the Feds) who could pull it through.

It is more likely the other way around, that they were drawn to him/his influence/his assets. Surrounded by leeches. Whenever there is money involved, you will come across such people and eventually you cannot trust anyone anymore. Money is the root of all evil, like MJ said

[Gone too soon]

Yes....hrm....but the Mafia is not exactly short of money. And it´s one thing having them around, another thing doing business with them.

I have a feeling that Joe Jackson was involved with the Mafia from the very beginning. And he provided Michael with bodyguards. If it was a "family thing", then MJ grew up with those guys. Could it be?

Just thought of the scene in TII when he does Smoothe Criminal and breaks away from..the gangsters?
Pretty significant.