Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

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Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: January 30, 2010, 11:41:03 PM
I know this isn't related to the Jacksons (show). However I just found this photo and explanation, which has me wondering..."if the "brothers" were either responsible for and/or okay with the use of a "dummy" of Michael (see below), then what does that say about the LENGTHS they would go to, to give MJ's fans the illusion of Michael being "with us", when he's NOT and of him NOT being with us, when he IS ?!

Quote...."Torture video....his brothers used a dummy when Mike didn't show!"


I have a feeling that in this setting, the dummy was used possibly at the END of their performances (with the stage either going DARK or Smoke,etc)....so that MJ, could EXIT early, and without problems (ie...swarming fans).

I said THAT, to say THIS.... if THIS has been the NORM all these years...then who's to say that the Ambulance MJ, wasn't, in fact, a "dummy".

JUST AN OBSERVATION.....
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: January 31, 2010, 06:39:47 PM
Good thought and I never thrown this idea completely out of my mind...
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 01, 2010, 12:34:25 AM
man i didnt know michael was like that. hes a prankster. i dont get how ppl can hate him or diss him like da medias does cuz mj seems so loveable.
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 01, 2010, 01:54:03 AM
Omigosh! Thats a dummy?

Then perhaps anything is possible for the Jack5ons......Then perhaps they are using MJ's mysterious death to rebuild their career.....Ya know, kinda exploiting it.......If thats a dummy then anything is fairly pssible...I'm back to 50-50% regarding the hoax
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 01, 2010, 02:42:30 PM
but then it  proves to me, that the "person" in the amb pic could be a dummy!
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 02, 2010, 01:58:53 PM
That's the only photo I could find...
It's really strange....  :shock:
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 02, 2010, 03:22:02 PM
:D  :lol:
That's "MY" caption!
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 07:19:10 AM
wow, good find
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 08:45:22 AM
They ALL look "real" to me. (There's NO WAY, the dummy is "Michael" though) :D
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
It was well documented in 1984 that they used a dummy in place of Michael when they were recording the Torture video - MJ was not available to do the video shoot so they had  no choice but to use a model.
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 04:25:34 PM
i would like to have one if i cant have the real one  ;)  :lol: :oops:
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 06:25:48 PM
My thing is...why go through ALL that, just to try to "fool" people?
I don't understand, why, it would even be necessary... Just reschedule the shoot!

I'm guessing it would take MORE planning and energy to try to imcorporate this "dummy", than to just shoot the video, when MJ is available.  

It just doesn't "sit right with me" (the whole "concept"....not the dummy) :D

Think about it.  How could he NOT BE AVAILABLE for a video shoot?  Are we to believe that it was last minute, he didn't SHOW, and coincidently....they HAPPEN TO HAVE HAD a fully dressed and ready to go, mannequin, available.   ?!

Unless this was some kind of "test" drive to see if they could get away with dummies/imposters/etc...and if so, come up with more "elaborate" ways of having Michael in places, when the need arises.   ?!


Hmmm....
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 06:45:40 PM
@ MSMJFANFOREVER - I didn't know it was your capton! I hope you don't mind I posted it?? A good one, by the way!

I didn't know about the dummy thing during "Torture"! I always wondered why was Mike kinda stiff in that vid... LOL!
I'm sure they'd like to take this dummy on tour this time, too, if they only could! LOL
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 03, 2010, 07:07:37 PM
Quote from: "VeryLittleSusie"
@ MSMJFANFOREVER - I didn't know it was your capton! I hope you don't mind I posted it?? A good one, by the way!

I didn't know about the dummy thing during "Torture"! I always wondered why was Mike kinda stiff in that vid... LOL!
I'm sure they'd like to take this dummy on tour this time, too, if they only could! LOL

LOL...no problem, I see my "captions" on other sites, as well.  I do it too.  Just as long as others aren't taking credit for them, it's ALL GOOD! :D  Thanks...
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 04, 2010, 07:14:08 AM
Quote from: "MSMJFANFOREVER"
My thing is...why go through ALL that, just to try to "fool" people?
I don't understand, why, it would even be necessary... Just reschedule the shoot!

I'm guessing it would take MORE planning and energy to try to imcorporate this "dummy", than to just shoot the video, when MJ is available.  

It just doesn't "sit right with me" (the whole "concept"....not the dummy) :D

Think about it.  How could he NOT BE AVAILABLE for a video shoot?  Are we to believe that it was last minute, he didn't SHOW, and coincidently....they HAPPEN TO HAVE HAD a fully dressed and ready to go, mannequin, available.   ?!

Unless this was some kind of "test" drive to see if they could get away with dummies/imposters/etc...and if so, come up with more "elaborate" ways of having Michael in places, when the need arises.   ?!


Hmmm....[/color]

Don't know the reason why but they did use a model - seems stupid to me but they probably thought with Mike there in some form, they would sell more records and get a better response to the video.
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: February 06, 2010, 06:39:54 PM
Just found "THIS"....  Michael was quite the "jokester"
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: June 26, 2011, 10:18:16 PM
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  

lolol/ Couldn't stop laughing. I never knew that it was a dummy (can't recall paying much attention either), and I had that album. However, I do remember reading that Mike didn't want to work with them at some point.  Katherine pretty much begged him to do so. The brothers really needed the money, he didn't.
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: June 27, 2011, 12:07:06 AM
maybe it was sarcasm.
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: June 27, 2011, 02:37:36 AM
Mike did not want to film the music video and point blank refused to do it and that is why they used the dummy. Which is really weird......... lol. But that is what I have heard anyway, that Michael refused to do the music video so they used a dummy. God, that is just so weird!!!!!
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Re: Jacksons had a history of using a "dummy"?!

  • on: June 27, 2011, 02:40:56 AM
P.S. @MSMJFANFOREVER, I love you signature, it really is a great pic of Michael. :)
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