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Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:46:53 PM
This is somewhat cross-posted from another MJ hoax forum (the topic on the other site was created by me). These are all pictures I have taken of one of the ambulances I work/volunteer on. This particular ambulance is the same model, the Ford E-450, as the ambulance Michael was in. Yes, tints on windows DO vary from ambulance to ambulance, as do the interiors. But because the other ambulances I run with are van ambulances, this ambulance is most similar to MJs.

Ok, now onto my pictures. I used a Canon PowerShot SD750. I can't tell you more about it because I do not know more about it. Sorry! I messed with settings (because I really am not great at figuring these things out), and I think you'll be very interested by the pictures I was able to take.

Outside the side window. Camera was set to Auto with flash:

In the bottom right hand corner you can see the stretcher.

This next picture is also from the side window. Camera was set to Auto without flash:


Again, outside the side window. The camera is set to Manual with flash.


Again, outside the side window. Camera set to manual withOUT flash


Outside the side window, camera still on manual withOUT flash


And just as a refresher, you can see how incredibly similiar the angle is from Michael's ambulance picture:
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lisap27

Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:49:43 PM
eeekk!!

was the ambulance moving when you took these pictures??  :shock:
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Tina K.

Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:50:12 PM
Yes the angle allright, but you did not use zoom then ?
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Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: "lisap27"
eeekk!!

was the ambulance moving when you took these pictures??  :shock:

lol, no no no!! It was parked inside the bay. And that's not really a patient  ;)
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Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:51:56 PM
Quote from: "Tina K."
Yes the angle allright, but you did not use zoom then ?

No, I did not zoom. And the camera was held anywhere from 6-12 inches away from the window. I don't remember how far exactly.
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Tina K.

Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:52:38 PM
ok, thanks
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Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 02:55:08 PM
Quote from: "LadyMedic"
Quote from: "lisap27"
eeekk!!

was the ambulance moving when you took these pictures??  :shock:

lol, no no no!! It was parked inside the bay. And that's not really a patient  ;)

oh no i didn't think it was a patient..  :lol:  :lol:  i just meant when the picture of Michael was taken the ambulance was moving!! so do you think this would have made a difference..  :shock:
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Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 04:09:24 PM
i dont want to believe you, i want to resist - give me time

but the photo of him is old?

otherwise what your leading us to, is to a path i cant go down
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Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 04:10:52 PM
why have you taken so long to come on this site?
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Re: Ambulance Windows
January 31, 2010, 04:13:52 PM
your photos of a us ambulance look very roomy compared to the uk
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 06:29:38 AM
well Ben was a fellow Medic he had access previously to ambulances and may do still.

mike has previously been rushed to hospital

the photo's you have posted i presume were taken whilst the ambulance was stationary?

the photo could be shopped both the background and the foreground

there are still doubts in my mind
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 11:40:43 AM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
well Ben was a fellow Medic he had access previously to ambulances and may do still.

mike has previously been rushed to hospital

the photo's you have posted i presume were taken whilst the ambulance was stationary?

the photo could be shopped both the background and the foreground

there are still doubts in my mind

Ben was an EMT, and a pretty poor one at that. And yes, the ambulance was stationary, but I do not have any reason to believe had I taken it while moving it would have yielded different results. And at the time the picture was taken, the ambulance was moving VERY slowly. The only difference between MJs picture and mine were that his ambulance was outside and mine was inside. Being outside, there was more reflection from the outside than my pictures.

And what do you mean the photo could have been photoshopped in the back and foreground?

The other thing I wanted to bring up is there is no way that photo is from 1985. Apart from my opinion that it all of a sudden appeared 25 years later, that tube holder wasn't around in 1985, and that's a fact.
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 02:26:33 PM
Quote from: "LadyMedic"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
well Ben was a fellow Medic he had access previously to ambulances and may do still.

mike has previously been rushed to hospital

the photo's you have posted i presume were taken whilst the ambulance was stationary?

the photo could be shopped both the background and the foreground

there are still doubts in my mind

Ben was an EMT, and a pretty poor one at that. And yes, the ambulance was stationary, but I do not have any reason to believe had I taken it while moving it would have yielded different results. And at the time the picture was taken, the ambulance was moving VERY slowly. The only difference between MJs picture and mine were that his ambulance was outside and mine was inside. Being outside, there was more reflection from the outside than my pictures.

And what do you mean the photo could have been photoshopped in the back and foreground?

The other thing I wanted to bring up is there is no way that photo is from 1985. Apart from my opinion that it all of a sudden appeared 25 years later, that tube holder wasn't around in 1985, and that's a fact.

how do you know so much about Ben?

why dont you just say what you think about mj?

what about 1995 - was the tube holder around then?

what is your experience with photography?
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 02:33:11 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
Quote from: "LadyMedic"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
well Ben was a fellow Medic he had access previously to ambulances and may do still.

mike has previously been rushed to hospital

the photo's you have posted i presume were taken whilst the ambulance was stationary?

the photo could be shopped both the background and the foreground

there are still doubts in my mind

Ben was an EMT, and a pretty poor one at that. And yes, the ambulance was stationary, but I do not have any reason to believe had I taken it while moving it would have yielded different results. And at the time the picture was taken, the ambulance was moving VERY slowly. The only difference between MJs picture and mine were that his ambulance was outside and mine was inside. Being outside, there was more reflection from the outside than my pictures.

And what do you mean the photo could have been photoshopped in the back and foreground?

The other thing I wanted to bring up is there is no way that photo is from 1985. Apart from my opinion that it all of a sudden appeared 25 years later, that tube holder wasn't around in 1985, and that's a fact.

how do you know so much about Ben?

why dont you just say what you think about mj?

I know what everyone else knows about Ben. That he said something along the lines of in a cardiac arrest we spend 8-10 minutes on scene because it's a "load and go" situation. I know that is a false remark that one may think if they merely took an EMT course or worked very briefly as an EMT. Realistically, we spend as much time as we feel neccessary to work a patient on scene, and this usually lasts far longer than 8 minutes.

And it's not so much what I think of MJ as it is that I want people to really see the facts. I can't speak about what other videos show, what Dr. Murray has claimed since then. I actually have no idea what the O2 Conference is. All I know is what I see in the ambulance picture and what I hear in the 911 call. I just want to show people what, realistically, is happening in the ambulance picture and the 911 call, and any questions about EMS.
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 02:35:42 PM
and your response to my last two q's
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