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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 03:04:09 PM
OMG ITS POSSIBLE THEN!!! my stomach is turning...there was no reflection of you in those pictures...i have to go :cry:
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 03:09:45 PM
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
and your response to my last two q's

I hadn't seen those before  :? But anyway, I'm not a photographer by any means. I don't know much about taking pictures.

And I'll have to find out if those tube holders were aorund in 1995. My guess is no. But regardless, the reason MJ was brought to the hospital in 1995 by no means warrented him being intubated. So for that reason alone the picture can't be from 1995. And I never saw any accounts of MJ going to the hospital in 1985.
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 03:12:24 PM
what about mike and ben jointly faking this
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 03:21:49 PM
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what about mike and ben jointly faking this


That's what I thought about...or about using a dummy...But then this whole fire alarm thing at the UCLA would make no sense
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 03:25:54 PM
Quote from: "Kirsche"
Quote from: "the arabian nights"
what about mike and ben jointly faking this


That's what I thought about...or about using a dummy...But then this whole fire alarm thing at the UCLA would make no sense
i dont believe this photo, something is not right, the photo does not look mike as in the TII movie, which are the most recent pic prior to his "death".

Ben is a medic and a professional photographer, he is probably very good with graphics, but between then they could have the contacts to stage this photo.
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 03:30:18 PM
wait the ONLY pic ladymedic was able to get out clear were the ones with NO falsh...the ambulance pic had a flash so idk what to think...i know MJs head looks awfully tiny compared to the medics forearms lol...he looks tiny compared to his surroundings
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 04:19:19 PM
Well what we can see of the pictures is that the ones with the flash you cannot see anything inside the amb and the only visible are without a flash, but it would be very complicated because the amb was moving and the sun was very bright that day what would have caused equally the same effect that the flash in this pictures. And also in the MJ picture you can see a light in the corner that Ben said was the flash of the camera, but if he would have used the flash you wouldn't be able to see at all what's happening inside.
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 04:22:18 PM
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Well what we can see of the pictures is that the ones with the flash you cannot see anything inside the amb and the only visible are without a flash, but it would be very complicated because the amb was moving and the sun was very bright that day what would have caused equally the same effect that the flash in this pictures. And also in the MJ picture you can see a light in the corner that Ben said was the flash of the camera, but if he would have used the flash you wouldn't be able to see at all what's happening inside.
Your right !  :D
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Kirsche

Re: Ambulance Windows
February 01, 2010, 04:23:57 PM
Quote from: "jonnysgirldangerous"
Well what we can see of the pictures is that the ones with the flash you cannot see anything inside the amb and the only visible are without a flash, but it would be very complicated because the amb was moving and the sun was very bright that day what would have caused equally the same effect that the flash in this pictures. And also in the MJ picture you can see a light in the corner that Ben said was the flash of the camera, but if he would have used the flash you wouldn't be able to see at all what's happening inside.


That's right and if you take a picture without flash you have to hold the camera VERY STILL and the motive should also STAND STILL.

So it's impossible to get such a clear shot without and, as you said, also with the flash!
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 02, 2010, 04:21:33 AM
thank you guys
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 02, 2010, 06:24:18 AM
Like I see it, how many shots did Ben Evenstad's friend take? And he USED flash..
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 02, 2010, 06:42:10 AM
Thank you for taking those photos...it's very helpful!  I am wondering if it would be possible to take some outside in the sunlight to see if there is a difference?  Seems like the tint would be stronger in daylight, which would make it more difficult to get a photo, but I could be wrong.  Didn't the pap say he held the camera right against the window with a flash?  Not sure if that would make a difference also rather than being 6-12 inches away.

Wait a minute, I thought it was Christopher Weiss who was the EMT, not Ben?  :?
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 02, 2010, 08:36:18 AM
Yes, thankyou LadyMedic for the pics you took the time to take etc  As much as we hate it, we need all the facts and everyone here can make that happen, between us! :)

BUT, THIS STILL DOESN'T EXPLAIN HIS FLAWLESS MAKEUP AND PERFECT WIG IN THE AMBULANCE.  I CANNOT SEE HOW SOMEONE WHO HAS BEEN WORKED ON SO HARD CAN STILL HAVE THEIR MAKEUP SO FLAWLESSLY IN PLACE!!

It was stated not long after he "died" that because of the damage done to his face during rescusitation attempts, his face caved in on one side and was too damaged for the public to see!  

Soooooo, if his face was way too damaged to have his body on display for public viewing, why was his make up absolutely perfect??

That's one thing I can't get my head around.....
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 02, 2010, 11:41:28 AM
See everyone! You're coming up with plenty of other questions and that's awesome! I wanted to answer your questions about the picture and about why the medics did what they did and what is happening in the picture. And while I have seen dead people that look very much alive, that doesn't mean that your opinion of how MJ looks isn't true. I'm not trying to convince you he's dead, I'm really not. I'm just trying to explain, to the best of my ability, what you're truly seeing from an objective standpoint.
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Re: Ambulance Windows
February 02, 2010, 12:06:45 PM
I have a question...when a person in intubated, and that person dies, isnt it a fact that that tube has to stay in the deceased persons mouth until the coroner takes it out? I'm asking this because I have read about this many times, which means the children were taken in to see their father with a big tube in his mouth. Also in one of Mauras videos, she is talking about a hand or something sticking up by the mouth and face area. As you can tell...I dont like where this is going. Sorry.  :(   BUT....what about the red car, and the 2 ambulances, and tour bus?? Seems like we can never get a straight answer and any truth we think we find gets debunked.  :evil:
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