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Isn't it peculiar also that within weeks after the 25th , that Pepsi videoclip was released? Why keeping it under wraps untill then and why release after the 25th, also WHO released it?There are also some scars described that he did have, such as the one on his right shin.I'm not too bothered about the hairtattoo either, a lot of male afro-american celebs have it. Just look at Jermaine for instance.It's a shame it's so badly copied, especially the writing is unreadable
If Karen is questioning the autopsy though that just keeps me believing.
Quote from: "Raven"Isn't it peculiar also that within weeks after the 25th , that Pepsi videoclip was released? Why keeping it under wraps untill then and why release after the 25th, also WHO released it?There are also some scars described that he did have, such as the one on his right shin.I'm not too bothered about the hairtattoo either, a lot of male afro-american celebs have it. Just look at Jermaine for instance.It's a shame it's so badly copied, especially the writing is unreadable I thought this too!! WHY after all this time, did it show up. I thought the only one who had footage of this was MJ himself....unless, his father somehow released it? Just thinking of the 20/20 (or was it Dateline) show that Joseph was on and showed pictures of MJ's legs with the vitaligo and then the mention of the commercial.
One thing was not mention in the Coroner's report that MJ suffered from dancer's feet and he had back problems. MJ would wear a foot cast because the pain was so great.
Quote from: "Raven"Quote from: "DancingTheDream"Quote from: "Raven"TMZ has put the report online nowthe whole report?Apparently, 20 Mb: You are not allowed to view links. Register or Logini cant see it.. have a link?
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So is the 911 call fake? This report says MJ was pulled onto the floor for CPR and 911 was called. But the 911 caller said he was on the bed, the 911 operator had to tell him to get him to the floor. Somebody is lying.
I posted this in another thread but as there seem to be multiple threads about this and this one is the most popular, I will post it here too:I have been looking over this report and so far a few things that have stood out that seem odd:Page 1: Facial Hair - Unshavenunshaven - not shavedshaved, shaven - having the beard or hair cut off close to the skinPage 14: A moustache and beard are absentHe looked clean shaven to me in the ambulance photograph...So someone gave him a shave between the initial examination and the autopsy?Page 3: I preformed an external body examination at the hospital on 6/25/09. The body was positively identified as Michael Joseph Jackson by visual comparison to his California drivers license on 6/25/09.If this identification was taking place at the hospital, there were many family members present etc why would identification be made using his drivers license? not just that, the next one too...Page 15: The body was not clothed and no clothing is available for review.If he was unclothed, where did the drivers licence come from that was used to identify him? It is not like he had pockets to have this item on him at the time. It also seems unlikely it would have been a priority to locate this piece of identification during the efforts to revive him. I do not know Michael personally but didn't he wear pyjamas a lot? Why would he not have some garment on as he was a modest, shy man and especially as Murray was supposed to be watching over him during the entire "induced sleep". There seemed to be many other medical supplies present why not a hospital gown at least? IDK seems odd...Page 18: Residual Brain tissue is released to the mortuary 7-8-09.So if the brain tissue was released 7-8-09 why was the internment ceremony (funeral) delayed until Sept 3. We were told that the family was awaiting the release of this tissue to proceed with his internment. The stories do not coincide.Page 51: August 6, 2009at approximately 1300 hours I was notified by Chief of Laboratories Joseph Muto that a Coroner's Criminalist was requested to collect hair samples from the above listed decadent for potential toxicology testing.The coroner had the body from June 25/09 and it appeared that the decedent may have died from drugs but they never took hair samples at the autopsy? I am not a forensic expert but you would think this would be something that would have been done at autopsy as someone who is a long time drug user would have deposits of these drugs in their hair follicles.Page 51: The majority of the decedent was covered with multiple white towels/sheets leaving only the hands and the top of the head exposed.I have never heard of anyone being placed in a casket covered by such items. Could the criminalist not distinguish between whether these where towels or sheets? I mean seriously towel and sheet material are 2 completely different things and what purpose did they serve? The criminalist mentions moving the wig but not the sheet/towel items covering the face, how does he even know he is taking hair samples from the right body?Nowhere are there any test results for the hair samples that were taken included in this report...A big deal seems to be made about substances on the hair and some sort of adhesive on the head but we see no results of any tests or anything.Page 3: Scene description - Various medical supplies including a box a catheters...Also at the foot of the bed,there was a closed bottle of urine atop a chair.Body Examination - There was also an external urine catheter present.Ok so when this supposed home infusion of anaesthetic was taking place, a catheter was being used to collect urine. Nowhere in the report does it say that this catheter was attached to any sort of collection bag. We have a bottle of urine which has been closed and capped sitting there, nothing is described as having been attached to it etc. TMZ peeing in cups story anyone?Page 27: A. Mild cerebral vascular congestionCerebral - relating to the brainVascular - vessels that conduct and circulate fluidsCongestion - accumulation of blood or other fluid in a body partPage 26: There is a mild degree of leptomeningeal vascular congestion.Leptomeningeal - the meninges; membranes surrounding the central nervous system. Cerebrospinal fluid circulates between these layers.So we have some fluid that has accumulated in this brain area but the report does include a description of this fluid nor any possible cause for the fluids accumulation.B. Mild diffuse brain swelling without herniation syndromeDiffuse - spread out not concentrated in one placeherniation syndrome -Inter cranial pressureSo we have mild spread out swelling within the brain without any pressure but such swelling is an indication of some sort of head and/or brain injury. Yet there are no outward indications of any head injury occurring and no explanation for this swelling is given in the report.Page 45: Stomach Contents SERVICE DRUG LEVELS UNITSBases Lidocaine 1.6 mgPropofol Propofol 0.13 mgAgain I do not know a lot about forensics but if propofol was being administered intravenously and lidocaine is given at an injection site how did they get in to the actual stomach contents, was he sipping on them?Propofol is found throughout the blood, tissue, fluids samples etc. There seems to be a problem with this scenario though. The most important advantage of propofol is its rapid onset and offset of action. This behavior of a "rapid on, rapid off" feature, not available with the intravenous opiates or benzodiazepines, accounts for the increasing popularity of propofol. Because the onset of action after a single dose is rapid, and its effect brief (~ 10-15 minutes) due to high lipophilicity and central nervous system penetration, propofol is given only by continuous infusion when used for sedation. Propofol is a complex drug that actually has three half-lives. Its a half-life, the distribution of the drug from the blood to the tissues after intravenous administration, is very short, perhaps 2 to 3 minutes. The ß half-life of the drug, which is basically the elimination half-life, ranges from 30 to 60 minutes. The half-life, or terminal half-life, during which the drug is eliminated from the third compartment, or tissue fat, ranges from 300 to 700 minutes. Clearance is by hepatic elimination. The large contribution of (about 50%) to the fall of plasma levels means that after very long infusions (at steady state), only about half the initial is needed to maintain the same plasma levels. The large volume of distribution normally seen in the septic or injured host, in combination with the lessened ability to clear the drug in the elderly, can result in a prolonged recovery phase of days due to drug accumulation. Failure to the infusion rate in patients receiving propofol for extended periods may result in excessively high blood concentrations of the drug. Thus, titration to clinical response and daily evaluation of sedation levels are important during extended use of propofol in the ICU.You are not allowed to view links. Register or LoginPropofol is given intravenously infusing this drug slowly over a period of time to maintain the anaesthetic effects and it is being continuously and quickly removed by the body. So either it built up over time in the blood or a big dose was given at once for there to be such a traceable amount found in all these tissues and fluids. There is also one other possibility... The propofol was poured into/onto blood and tissues samples after they were taken. If this is the case then explains why propofol and lidocaine were both found in the stomach contents.I am going to reread it again and see if i notice anything else that seems unusual. I will get back to you on this.
There are few other things that i find rather strange in this report:The short curly hair (we saw MJ in the ambulance with long straight hair...And no it can't be a wig, a day before he was rehearsing and he had a pony tail.)The finger nails........the coroner never mentioned it but he did not have healthy nails.
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