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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 01:37:08 AM
Guys, I think I have to watch the vid again & again a little later.  At least couple of days had passed to let my soggy & tired brain rest, maybe I'll see things in a much better perspective(doubting myself, actually) ;)  ;)  ;)

AKIRAKA, I'll check if the wall clock's time was STEADY on a certain time during the whole arraignment(from beginning til end). & of course the Judge's watch, which is his personal watch must be working as it wouldn't be set on one time only like the wall clock. The wall clock must be telling us something-not the Judge's watch IMO, but to compare the real time,we need the Judge's watch.
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 02:24:03 AM
Juliet if we admit that this was real and not a Film like the other with Murray's trial for the child allowance, then both watches must show the same hour if the seqences between focusing on the wall clock and judge's watch are close. And they are, max. few seconds.

Supposing the trial began at 13:30 and we see these images continuously, the judge is speaking at the begining and we see the wall clock showing 13:55 and after a few sec. we see the judge's watch, then HIS WATCH MUST SHOW aprox. the same hour that the wall clock shows. That is why I consider that both watches must show the real time, and be correlated between them. If this TMZ's film is made by cuts and adds then we have a problem. But I dont't think so.... it seems that is runs continuously.

And you will see that at 1 or 2 moments the wall clock shows 14:10 aprox, and then 13:55, 13:59, I wonder how it is posible the watch to go backwards ?? :lol:  :lol: if we see all in REAL TIME and that trial is taking place under our eyes, this is impossible.
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 02:55:22 AM
AKIRAKA, what if the strange time or time anomaly is caused by PAUSING/STOPPING whoever is filming. When people do films, sometimes they STOP for a while and then continue filming.  Maybe that's the message.
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 03:42:08 AM
Juliet I don't know but if more of you could check, I'd be gratfeul because we can know something clear. And I know one thing there were Nuez paintings, you know that one with clocks from Dali paintings, I must tell you that 1 clock shows 12:21 the hour of 911 call, if I do remember well the other : approx 7:00 o'clock (MJ's 7) and I think is the third one but I don't remember. This painting we knew was a gift for MJ's children.

 In my opinion the hours are very imp. in everything related to MJ. As we saw on 911 recording device 12:21, but also 12:22 on the same screen, than the hours related to the medicines in that night, so we have a lot of hours involved here , I don't want to miss those at trial,  ;) I'm  sure that the time is very, very important. If we saw in this trial the yellow taxi toy or garbage etc.. you can't prove that all it's unreal and it's just a film, but if we catch these discrepances, that involve the time (hours) you can prove so quickly that everything there was not real.
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julietTopic starter

Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 05:09:30 AM
Wow AKIRAKA, you're really good. I'll check the vid. Thanks for your thoughts. ;)  ;)  ;)
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 12:08:39 PM
Hope this will help.

This is what I see:



To be 12:55 the clock hands should make a narrower angle, and this is around 45º
(from 11 to 2).

This one is rotated (take into account the perspective distortion):

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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 01:00:39 PM
Taking into account the reinforced focus on TIME captured by the camera in this movie (this is another TII extension, however I doubt we would find it on any Blu-Ray   ;)  ):
1) a calendar torn into pieces and every piece accurately being published in detail, pinned on the wall (like MIchael)
2) two watches (we love doubles, don't we?, two timelines, two lives, two developments in parallel... ?),

there are two associations popping into my mind:

a) the famous drawing of "The Persistence of Memory" by Salvador Dalí:
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b) Steve Miller Band (listen to the lyrics!)
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 01:09:16 PM
Quote
a) the famous drawing of "The Persistence of Memory" by Salvador Dalí:

Which is in the donut painting...
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 01:18:59 PM
Quote from: "Jacksonology"
IMO the yellow rag doll sitting in the ''Witness'' Seat is a sign. telling us that this is all FAKE.

No, no, no, check it out, the witness seat is to the right of the judge.
To the left of the court teporter.
It´s there all the time...
Curious how the mind works to just figure out that it´s to the judge´s left, just like in the movies... think about it... the dictatorship of the eye we´re living in.

The rag doll or sunflower seems to be on the left side of the judges´s desk.
Then there´s a passable room between there and some book shelves, and then the wall...
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julietTopic starter

Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 05:55:59 PM
SOMEKINDOFSIGN, thank you for posting the photos of the watch. Great help ;)  ;)  ;)
And yes I've noticed the seat on the right side of the Judge.I couldn't comment on it cause I really don't know the inside of the small courtrooms whether there is another place next to the Judge or not. This courtroom is filled with toys,calendars, blue books,big clock,dog on the stenographer's table,& so on.

So, because of the hodgepodge, I'll sing "Which of these things belong together...."
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 15, 2010, 08:05:51 PM
You´re wellcome!
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 16, 2010, 06:09:01 AM
somekindofsigns, yes, your photos are relevant thank you ;)  ;) You know that I count the white dots those on the side with 2 o'clock, 3,4.. and between 1 o'clock and 3 I had that dot where in my opinion there was not the arrow of the watch because I 've started from 1 o clock that was what I saw. Now with the axes made by you it's other image, the white dots confused me.

Anyway I have one more question please :also in this video can you tell me if I saw right or wrong in one moment, I don't remember the min. ,I saw the wall watch on 14:10, 14:12 after a while it shows 13:55, 13:59, or it's just that arrow for seconds, don't kow the name, and it's on the 13:55 hours ?

Grace thank you  ;) yes, here since 25 June is all about the time in all related to MJ. This is Dali's painting and I love it and the one from Nuez has this theme of watches. And those calendars it's impossible for anyone not to think at them. Everything in that court has a purpose and a message
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 16, 2010, 06:50:47 AM
i see 10 after 29 march ... :shock:
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 16, 2010, 12:05:02 PM
Quote from: "mformichael"
i see 10 after 29 march ... :shock:

Me too  :shock:

Or may 40 (!!!) but no way I see 30  :shock:
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Re: The YELLOW Toy Car & The Courtroom
February 16, 2010, 12:12:44 PM
Quote from: "mformichael"
i see 10 after 29 march ... :shock:

Checked! Just an illusion, some frames earlier we can see 30  :lol:

@akiraka I watched it again to see what you say, but I see a normal progression of the clock from 13:56 to 14:08 last time seen (03:045 of the second video, so 08:47 in the whole) so it match. Maybe we lost a bit on the cut. All seems right in the end.
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