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This is Badkolo's theory. It's origin lies somewhere in late July 2009 and that's when my eyes were opened to the simple brilliance of posibility, and the very REALness of a death hoax plan. Badkolo gets 100% credit for this. This is the product of his mind, I am simply the (minion) messenger.

Sometimes, in your quest for the truth you can be turned upside down 6 ways from Sunday, travel all around the globe, and start to delve into the depths of obscurity and madness when, all along, the answers you seek are right in your own backyard.

Sometimes, when searching for the thruth, the simplest theory is the strongest one. THE 3 way theory is just that, and it has stood up, over months of searching and investigation and researching and events unfolding before out eyes... it has stood up, and has yet to be refuted. Beyond and further, it has become strengthened, and therefore it cannot be ignored. It deserves to be shared again.

THE 3 Way Theory:

Is very simple. And very clear. And very, VERY brilliant. And it is ALL Badkolo's mind at work, very early in the game, he was very, very on to something. It bears witness to recent events, and gains strength from them, and he may just be RIGHT.

THE 3 way theory states this: the fewer persons IN ON IT the better, as loose lips sink ships and certainly Michael can't have the whole world knowing what he's up to with a death hoax. All it takes is one slip, and the jig is up. Michael MUST retain BAMSday (as it's come to be known) for himself. Michael MUST retain full control over the timing of the reveal as timing will be crucial. The stage must be set, public perception must be just right, and certain pieces and events must fall into place. The less people involved the better, and the more reliably Michael retains this control solely for himself.

In order for this hoax to be pulled off, only 3 persons are necessary players: Michael, one Doctor, and the Coronor. Michael for obvious reasons but the other two are ALL that are needed to pull off a death hoax. No 50 million people involved. No massive cast of characters. No. Only 3.

One Doctor would be needed to get Michael to the hospital because he MUST be pronounced dead at a hospital. Michael may NOT be pronounced dead anywhere else as more complicated legalities are involved in death occuring outside of a medical facility. The "scene" must be sealed, police must be brought in, pictures must be taken and detectives must be involved immediatly. This is entirely too many witnesses to attempt to deal with. This scenario is unacceptable. No. Michael MUST be taken to a hospital where the situation can be controlled, and "death" becomes a simple matter of paperwork. Dr. Murray plays this role. Remember, Murray "overrules" the paramedics at the scene and accompanies Michael's "body" to UCLA. It can safely be assumed (in leu of any information at all) that Murray conceivably could have, being a medical professional and attending physician, retained specific priviliges that allowed him to control situations once at UCLA as well. It is very very conceivable that Murray could have gotten Michael into that "closed off wing" of UCLA ER and simply out the back door, then he could have easily turned it into a "he said/she said situation from there, and no one would be the wiser, simply following orders and passing along information that they have been told.

The Coronor is the third member of the 3 Way Theory, also hopefully for obvious reasons. The Coronor is needed to legalise the death and paperwork associated with such. The death certificate would need to go through the coronor, as well as the autopsey report. So long as the coronor signs off on or produces both of those documents, legal "death" is finalised and the first stage of the hoax is done.

So.

We have Murray, who handles the EMTs and UCLA staff, shepherding Michael presumably out the back door and conducting any damage control within and left behind, after which he can safely disappear and begin his role in the next stage of the hoax viewtopic.php?f=48&t=5033

And we have the coronor, who takes the batton from Murray and runs with it, signing off on a fake DC and producing a fake autopsey report to satisfy the legal paperwork aspect of death. As we have seen with the DC, legal loopholes have been exploited to the fullest (namely, no pun intended, the name, but it doesn't end there. Michael has covered himself with at least half a dozen legal loopholes, as we have discovered in relation to the DC and other crucial documents).

And voila, you have a death hoax, stage one (physical "death"), completed. Once this stage is completed, death is widely accepted as fact and the rest is comparitively easy.

Why would, and how could Murray and the coronor participate legally in this scenario? Another simple answer: Performance art. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Performance_art Not a movie production persay, but a production nontheless, in front of a live audience: us, the media, the world. Under script, and under contract, paid for their participation, real life people performing as actors or extras in a live production.

I trust that Michael Jackson has the best lawyers money can buy and the legality would be ensured ahead of time, with all the i's dotted and the t's crossed so I reject the notion that any illegal activities are/have taken place in the process of this hoax. And I really don't think that's unrealistic to assume.

NOTE: THE 3 way theory does NOT stipulate that ONLY 3 people (Michael, Murray, and the coronor) are involved and "in on it", it simply states that only these three people are NECESSARY to complete the physical stage of the hoax. Any persons added, or made aware of the hoax after that are simply ELECTIVE.

Simple. Perceptive. Brilliant. And holding up. In fact, it's the last original theory standing. Badkolo owns it, it is the work of his mind alone. Time will tell, and perhaps very soon, if he has been right all along. I have held onto this as one of my basic, original truths, and I'm honored to be granted permission to share it with you.
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I must not be understanding this correctly.  So who did the paramedics and ER doctors work on?  And who did they autopsy?  A lot of different people signed the reports.
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Says who. Have any of those people been substantiated?
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Yes....Dr. Cooper for one.  That is who pronounced him dead.  We also know there were paramedics from the LAFD at the house.  They had to have worked on someone, unless they're also in on it.
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Great theory. I also do believe only a few people are involved. The doctor, the coroner, his legal team and ofcourse his family.

Bec,I really like you posts. The're always very realistic and not farfetched at all.  ;)
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Brilliant !
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There was mention on another post about trying to find out whether the same actors were used in different times, and the answer is  YES............... COMPARING THE INFAMOUS HELICOPTER TRANSPORTATION OF MJ'S BODY TO THE CORONERS,(which was a body donated for research) AND THE ONES USED IN THE COURT ROOM ETC.......SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT I FOUND;[attachment=1:384jtrcj]conrad-murray-surrender 2.JPG[/attachment:384jtrcj]

For starters, look at the bald man at the back.  He is in both pictures.  The women is the same as the court room, but she has her hair in a bun instead.  The taller man also seems familiar........
The theory of the extras (paid actors)  playing these roles in the reality show are just want we needed to see........There are so many more as well.  I need to find better pictures, to compare the others...............Cheers.
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I think his family and children must know something.
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Yes....Dr. Cooper for one.  She is the one who pronounced him dead.  We also know there were paramedics from the LAFD at the house.  They had to have worked on someone, unless they're also in on it.

You say I'm wrong, so you gotta prove you're right.

We have been presented an initial and a last name. Someone jumped to the conclusion that it must be this Dr. that works at ucla. Any substantiation? A statement? A link? Anything?

If this dr. was so real, why not sign the DC right then and there. Why not make a statement. Why did this fall to Jermaine. Why did this become a coronor case.

Because it's bullshit. Again. Look deeper into what we are given and take nothing at face value without substantiation. Use logic and reasoning, common sense and fact. The theory stands.

Ps. remember the name DB Cooper. If you don't know who that is/was, Googleing is highly recomended.

Da Troot: read the italiced paragraph at the end, I addressed this thought.
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I. An never see michael
Dissapearing from his children and upseting them or his mother I can't see myself
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I google db cooper he was a plane hijacker that dissappeared. Am I right is that what you meant
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I realise the theory is long and some points may be.... missed. So, to repeat:

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THE 3 way theory states this: the fewer persons IN ON IT the better, as loose lips sink ships and certainly Michael can't have the whole world knowing what he's up to with a death hoax. All it takes is one slip, and the jig is up. Michael MUST retain BAMSday (as it's come to be known) for himself. Michael MUST retain full control over the timing of the reveal as timing will be crucial. The stage must be set, public perception must be just right, and certain pieces and events must fall into place. The less people involved the better, and the more reliably Michael retains this control solely for himself.

NOTE: THE 3 way theory does NOT stipulate that ONLY 3 people (Michael, Murray, and the coronor) are involved and "in on it", it simply states that only these three people are NECESSARY to complete the physical stage of the hoax. Any persons added, or made aware of the hoax after that are simply ELECTIVE.
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Anything's possible but IMO it has to include his children and his mom, because he is fiercely protective of them.
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Brilliant theory and I agree with all of the above.

Something small but I thought was significant - this morning I was listening to talk show on radio where people ring in to discuss anything on their mind, anyway this guy rang in sounded about 50ish and he spoke about the court case on Monday. Now he did believe MJ was dead but he felt the court case and the case in general was all orchestrated and BS. Now I put the fact that he thought MJ was dead to the back of my mind because the fact that this normal everyday joe thought this case was reality like or made up surprised me.
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lots of people have said to me how weird it all is when before they thought it was all plain sailing nothing wrong
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This reminds me, the Coronor put on his facebook somethng like "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" will see if I can find the link and edit it into this post.  Im sure thats what he said, anyone remember that?  It was quite a while ago.


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^^Really? That's good to know that non-believers are starting to noticed inconsistancies....everyone around me doesn't think twice about events....
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New post by bec » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:00 am
This is Badkolo's theory. It's origin lies somewhere in August 2009 and that's when my eyes were opened to the simple brilliance of posibility, and the very REALness of a death hoax plan. Badkolo gets 100% credit for this. This is the product of his mind, I am simply the (minion) messenger.

Bec and Badkolo and Master Michael I am kissing your feet, sucking your toes !!!
What a relief, this is brilliant !

All day I have spent jumping post to post trying to speak out how it all is gaining strength toward a fabulous HOAX.  Bottom line: I was waiting for DNA proof to de-bunk the hoax out of my own head, but then I would have questioned the source on that too.  I could have spent 2 more weeks throwing out all the garbage and I may have never narrowed it down to the simplicity of 3 people.  What a brilliant theory and so believable.

Now, being that the grand Matrix life is oh so very active...I can envision Michael in the center of his circle, probably with his kids, some of his family must know and the good Dr will be okay - his heart warming video speech is validated, the coroner goes about business as usual.
Outside the circle are many separate entities floating around: the media, TMZ, music associates, the fans, etc etc and all are feeding off themselves and each other, spending time in their own little worlds doing what they do naturally.

Hoax believers our job is not finished.  I would love to collaborate on what assistance is needed to help the hoax process continue to run smoothly.  Anyone like to speculate on that ?  I sure would love for Michael to get what he wants and that would be to see his message fulfilled >>>>  Continue with LOVE and lets look away from MJ's business and more in the direction of "We Are The World" mission.
There is some really heavy political shit going down that need the peoples attention.

I am finally at peace with all this.  I can take a couple days off from all the speculation.

Thanks again Bec for sharing all you have.  xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo
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Quote from: "Ijustcantstoplovingu"
This reminds me, the Coronor put on his facebook somethng like "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" will see if I can find the link and edit it into this post.  Im sure thats what he said, anyone remember that?  It was quite a while ago.


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Yep he twitted that

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The post is great...but i might be slow i don't see the 3-thing stuff...especially cause u add that eventually more ppl are needed...

of course more ppl are needed...like the one who pretends to do a heart massage on MJ...if it was a real secourist doing a real CPR he would have killed him, breaking his ribbs... or at least MJ would have been shouting like hell and not able to act dead

I agree Murray could supervise the guys in the ambulance (tho i think they were actors) cause being a doctor (and a cardiologist in a case of heart failure...) puts him above them...sure.

But once they step in the Emergency room, Murray is a nobody and got nothing to say. So sorry, much more ppl are needed there. Tho i get your point of being easier to fake death at hospital than at home. This i agree. But much more ppl must have been involved at UCLA cause u can't put a tube down somebody throat when being conscious without him reacting...so if there was no tube, if there was no real heart massage etc, all the ppl around must have been on the hoax.

Which doesn't mean it s impossible cause as we know, money buys everything and everyone's silence

And for me the ppl involved in the hoax are really easy to indentify...check who Michael rehired few days b4 passing and u got your dream team complete.

John Branca: longtime friend he could trust, taking care of his estate and all legal aspects

Frank Dileo: the guy who seems afraid of nothing. And who was behind the publicity stunts (oxygen chamber, etc) in the 80's

Grace: who was let go and rehired few weeks b4 june
Karen: longtime friend whi was rehired in april
Murray: so in debt he could use good money. Was hired few days b4 25th june
Kenny Ortega: this is it, memorial, funeral, we are the world at JO

and then all the extras (nobodies highly paid to play a role in the hoax: in the emergency room, etc)

and of course as u said a coroner. And Ben Evenstad. And Alvarez for the 911 call

and of course the family must be on it
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Yes I think many of us are noticing the same faces showing up at the oddest places again and again.  I also started noticing that important you tube videos are becoming more unavailable due to copyright restrictions.  And also links to information sources are broken.  Got the feeling that we are being watched and getting too close to datroot ya know? I have not been dedicated to downloading important info like I should. I still want to piece things together believing in a hoax just to see the dynamics of it all.

 
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  Ijustcantstoplovingu wrote:This reminds me, the Coronor put on his facebook somethng like "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" will see if I can find the link and edit it into this post. Im sure thats what he said, anyone remember that? It was quite a while ago.
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Would be some work to go way back to find more nice little assuring clues like that.

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I must not be understanding this correctly. So who did the paramedics and ER doctors work on? And who did they autopsy? A lot of different people signed the reports.

Now I know why TMZ is the bulk of our information source.  They have been feeding us a "steady drip" of paperwork and he said she said this or that since day one. Exactly what paper work did we see??? huh?  We were TOLD CPR was done.  We were Told everything and believed it and labored over it.
It's like a hoax inside a hoax.  A hoax would explain a lot of the confusion and run around and contradictions.  

Question: when Elvis supposedly died, was it a closed casket, family only viewing?
I could see Lisa and her dad telling Michael how simple it would be,,,,ya just have to do it.

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I think this theory is great...... but it has to be a body taken to the hospital that day!!

The assian guy???
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There was mention on another post about trying to find out whether the same actors were used in different times, and the answer is  YES............... COMPARING THE INFAMOUS HELICOPTER TRANSPORTATION OF MJ'S BODY TO THE CORONERS,(which was a body donated for research) AND THE ONES USED IN THE COURT ROOM ETC.......SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT I FOUND;[attachment=1:3qy7ztvc]conrad-murray-surrender 2.JPG[/attachment:3qy7ztvc]

For starters, look at the bald man at the back.  He is in both pictures.  The women is the same as the court room, but she has her hair in a bun instead.  The taller man also seems familiar........
The theory of the extras (paid actors)  playing these roles in the reality show are just want we needed to see........There are so many more as well.  I need to find better pictures, to compare the others...............Cheers.

That's a good point.  I have to go back and look but was wondering at the time if some of the officers from this week's court case also didn't appear at Murray's child support case.
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But once they step in the Emergency room, Murray is a nobody and got nothing to say. So sorry, much more ppl are needed there. Tho i get your point of being easier to fake death at hospital than at home. This i agree. But much more ppl must have been involved at UCLA cause u can't put a tube down somebody throat when being conscious without him reacting...so if there was no tube, if there was no real heart massage etc, all the ppl around must have been on the hoax.
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well how do we know they went into the emergency room?? that couldve been the back door in that case Murray would still be in charge and this is Michael Jackson they will do want he wants!!!(dr's ,nurses)  
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okay i meant "once they step in the hospital"...there is a hierarchy there, you cant come in a say "listen guys, i m a doctor from Houston so will u all do what i say!" Impossible. So u need much more ppl involved in the hoax.
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Quote from: "2good2btrue"
There was mention on another post about trying to find out whether the same actors were used in different times, and the answer is  YES............... COMPARING THE INFAMOUS HELICOPTER TRANSPORTATION OF MJ'S BODY TO THE CORONERS,(which was a body donated for research) AND THE ONES USED IN THE COURT ROOM ETC.......SO FAR, THIS IS WHAT I FOUND;[attachment=1:1fdlobnt]conrad-murray-surrender 2.JPG[/attachment:1fdlobnt]

For starters, look at the bald man at the back.  He is in both pictures.  The women is the same as the court room, but she has her hair in a bun instead.  The taller man also seems familiar........
The theory of the extras (paid actors)  playing these roles in the reality show are just want we needed to see........There are so many more as well.  I need to find better pictures, to compare the others...............Cheers.


I've also thought that the officer on the right looks close to one of the men holding the door of the emergency room open when they brought Michael in.
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This reminds me, the Coronor put on his facebook somethng like "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" will see if I can find the link and edit it into this post.  Im sure thats what he said, anyone remember that?  It was quite a while ago.


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 Yes he said that and It was on twitter  :     https://twitter.com/chiefcoronerla
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but thats HIS dr ...he does rate..think about it they call your dr when u go to e.r...if your dr was with you they would let him treat you..no? i know saving his life is diff but i was stating in general
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I sure don't recall seeing any photos taken inside the hospital do you ?

In fact of any interviews or vids or pics of the family rushing to the hospital did we ever see the hospital in the background to prove they were actually there ?

Was there a pic or video showing us a body on a cart being taken into the hospital? For all we know a bunch of actors got permission to do a Hollywood shoot in front of the emergency room doors.  Anything we know we were TOLD or we READ.

It was even proved how 7 photos could be layered on top each other to make a video scene of Michael on a cart shielded by men holding suit jackets up for a screen, by Bec I believe it was.  

Remember the video of when Jermaine walked across a stage to announce that his brother Michael was in fact dead?  I thought it was odd we could not see the news media in the foreground, but could only see camera flashes. Help me remember - did we ever see an official from UCLA make an official announcement?  The magic of Hollywood is so easy even a kid could make anything believable with a digital camera and a good computer program.

There does not need to be a real body to pull off a hoax.  There only needs to be a story that the people can believe.  We have not seen a body.  We were only TOLD there was a body and TOLD all about what they did to the body.

Hope I helped with a different perspective on a body.

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Does anybody remember the EMT guys saying that they didn't realize it was Michael Jackson...they didn't recognize him. I think they said he looked like a frail old man.

I don't know if I can find it or not. It was reported very soon after his death.
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I sure don't recall seeing any photos taken inside the hospital do you ?

In fact of any interviews or vids or pics of the family rushing to the hospital did we ever see the hospital in the background to prove they were actually there ?

Was there a pic or video showing us a body on a cart being taken into the hospital? For all we know a bunch of actors got permission to do a Hollywood shoot in front of the emergency room doors.  Anything we know we were TOLD or we READ.

It was even proved how 7 photos could be layered on top each other to make a video scene of Michael on a cart shielded by men holding suit jackets up for a screen, by Bec I believe it was.  

Remember the video of when Jermaine walked across a stage to announce that his brother Michael was in fact dead?  I thought it was odd we could not see the news media in the foreground, but could only see camera flashes. Help me remember - did we ever see an official from UCLA make an official announcement?  The magic of Hollywood is so easy even a kid could make anything believable with a digital camera and a good computer program.

There does not need to be a real body to pull off a hoax.  There only needs to be a story that the people can believe.  We have not seen a body.  We were only TOLD there was a body and TOLD all about what they did to the body.

Hope I helped with a different perspective on a body.

xoxoxo


Now this makes much more sense to me that the idea of murray entering a real hospital and taking the command of everything when he s not even able to do CPR.  U r right we never saw anything that proves it was really in UCLA (well as far as i remember)
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Lol. You guys are getting it. Delightful. I'm so glad I was able to transmit THE 3 Way Theory to the masses. It's brilliance, pure, simple brilliance, and it's been underground far too long. When I read this a long 7 months ago, my world changed forever.

(ps, I believe I was incorrect about stating Badkolo first presented this in August, rather, late July may be more accurate. I edited my original post)

The beauty of the 3 way theory is that it opens up many other avenues of thought, and works as a jump off point for brainstorming, as well as the fact that it keeps you centered and focused, staying well within the rhelms of reality and common sense.

For example, the 3 Way is why Murray "interfered" with the emts at the scene, kept "butting in" at UCLA. Remember, Murray was described as "frankly kept getting in the way". Remember that report?

The 3 way is why Murray did one armed CPR. Totally ineffective in a real cardiac arrest, yet perfect for the situation. Won't hurt Michael yet puts on a good show. Perhaps this is why Murray did one armed CPR on the bed too.

The 3 way is why no defibrulator was used, and why the claim of "weak pulse" was reported. Can't defib with a weak pulse, you'll kill the man, and defib would certainly kill a live and well Michael faking cardiac arrest. Who reported weak pulse? Murray.

The 3 way is why no mouth to mouth resescitation was performed. Can't do this on a live person, can be very harmful. Again, one armed CPR, totally ineffective, but innocuous, and puts on a good show.

The 3 way is why no doctor would sign the DC at UCLA and why no UCLA spokesperson would make a statement. No one actually SAW Michael dead. No one was going to go on record based on hearsay.

And there's so much more I could say but at some point I have to quit typing.

The member here who brought up the coronor's tweet about 3 men keeping a secret if two are dead, yes, when that came out... well... it simply further supported the 3 way. That and about 1000 other weird events and reports since last summer.
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This is a great theory. I have been thinking about things along this line lately. How many people would be involved in the hoax?

I have been writing down some of my own thoughts about why people think MJ is behind the hoax death sites and if that even makes sense.  And I was thinking about risky it would be to fake your death.  Faking your death is a HUGE risk and would you risk blowing it by coming onto a hoax site?   Just a thought.  So yes, the less people who know the better.

Good theory badkolo and thanks bec for posting it!

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this is a great theory , so simple but so accurate ,  i remember this theory in the old mjhd chat , thanks bec for let people know about this brilliant  theory , and thanks to the big man too.

love u both
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You say I'm wrong, so you gotta prove you're right.

We have been presented an initial and a last name. Someone jumped to the conclusion that it must be this Dr. that works at ucla. Any substantiation? A statement? A link? Anything?

If this dr. was so real, why not sign the DC right then and there. Why not make a statement. Why did this fall to Jermaine. Why did this become a coronor case.

Because it's bullshit. Again. Look deeper into what we are given and take nothing at face value without substantiation. Use logic and reasoning, common sense and fact. The theory stands.

Ps. remember the name DB Cooper. If you don't know who that is/was, Googleing is highly recomended.

Da Troot: read the italiced paragraph at the end, I addressed this thought.

Calm down...I didn't say you were wrong, I only asked you a question...you don't have to get so defensive.  The onus is on you to prove your theory if you want people to believe it.  There is nothing about what you posted that is based in "logic and reasoning, common sense and fact"...it's just a theory.  You can see that there is a Dr. Cooper who works at UCLA, it's on their website.  Don't you think they might wonder why their name is on Michael's autopsy report if they didn't work on him, or they're not in on it?  Although I believe if this is a hoax there would have to be very few people who know, there would have to be a lot more than three if you're saying it was really Michael himself that was transported to the hospital.  If it were a body double, then that is more plausible.  And the reason this became a coroner case is because a 50 year old dying from respiratory arrest is not a natural death.
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I sure don't recall seeing any photos taken inside the hospital do you ?

In fact of any interviews or vids or pics of the family rushing to the hospital did we ever see the hospital in the background to prove they were actually there ?

Was there a pic or video showing us a body on a cart being taken into the hospital? For all we know a bunch of actors got permission to do a Hollywood shoot in front of the emergency room doors.  Anything we know we were TOLD or we READ.

It was even proved how 7 photos could be layered on top each other to make a video scene of Michael on a cart shielded by men holding suit jackets up for a screen, by Bec I believe it was.  

Remember the video of when Jermaine walked across a stage to announce that his brother Michael was in fact dead?  I thought it was odd we could not see the news media in the foreground, but could only see camera flashes. Help me remember - did we ever see an official from UCLA make an official announcement?  The magic of Hollywood is so easy even a kid could make anything believable with a digital camera and a good computer program.

There does not need to be a real body to pull off a hoax.  There only needs to be a story that the people can believe.  We have not seen a body.  We were only TOLD there was a body and TOLD all about what they did to the body.

Hope I helped with a different perspective on a body.

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Now this makes much more sense to me that the idea of murray entering a real hospital and taking the command of everything when he s not even able to do CPR.  U r right we never saw anything that proves it was really in UCLA (well as far as i remember)

But if it wasn´t a body... and nobody go into UCLA..... don´t you think people in UCLA would be saying something??
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One Doctor would be needed to get Michael to the hospital because he MUST be pronounced dead at a hospital. Michael may NOT be pronounced dead anywhere else as more complicated legalities are involved in death occuring outside of a medical facility. The "scene" must be sealed, police must be brought in, pictures must be taken and detectives must be involved immediatly. This is entirely too many witnesses to attempt to deal with. This scenario is unacceptable. No. Michael MUST be taken to a hospital where the situation can be controlled, and "death" becomes a simple matter of paperwork. Dr. Murray plays this role. Remember, Murray "overrules" the paramedics at the scene and accompanies Michael's "body" to UCLA. It can safely be assumed (in leu of any information at all) that Murray conceivably could have, being a medical professional and attending physician, retained specific priviliges that allowed him to control situations once at UCLA as well. It is very very conceivable that Murray could have gotten Michael into that "closed off wing" of UCLA ER and simply out the back door, then he could have easily turned it into a "he said/she said situation from there, and no one would be the wiser, simply following orders and passing along information that they have been told.

I mean that can happen... "he said she said" but there has to be happening something on the hospital....
A body that no everyone can see.... the ones who saw them says it wasn´t like him.... but with all the circus.... they believe is him....
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You say I'm wrong, so you gotta prove you're right.

We have been presented an initial and a last name. Someone jumped to the conclusion that it must be this Dr. that works at ucla. Any substantiation? A statement? A link? Anything?

If this dr. was so real, why not sign the DC right then and there. Why not make a statement. Why did this fall to Jermaine. Why did this become a coronor case.

Because it's bullshit. Again. Look deeper into what we are given and take nothing at face value without substantiation. Use logic and reasoning, common sense and fact. The theory stands.

Ps. remember the name DB Cooper. If you don't know who that is/was, Googleing is highly recomended.

Da Troot: read the italiced paragraph at the end, I addressed this thought.

Calm down...I didn't say you were wrong, I only asked you a question...you don't have to get so defensive.  The onus is on you to prove your theory if you want people to believe it.  There is nothing about what you posted that is based in "logic and reasoning, common sense and fact"...it's just a theory.  You can see that there is a Dr. Cooper who works at UCLA, it's on their website.  Don't you think they might wonder why their name is on Michael's autopsy report if they didn't work on him, or they're not in on it?  Although I believe if this is a hoax there would have to be very few people who know, there would have to be a lot more than three if you're saying it was really Michael himself that was transported to the hospital.  If it were a body double, then that is more plausible.  And the reason this became a coroner case is because a 50 year old dying from respiratory arrest is not a natural death.

I was quite clear but I'll repeat, I am simply the messenger of this theory. This is Badkolo's theory, period. I was chartered to present it to you. Do I believe he is right? Yes.

I don't believe those people listed exist. I don't have any substantiation to that fact. In regards to the Dr. I have a title, a first initial, and a last name. That is not enough to identify a person anymore then you can be sure Mr. M. Jackson refers to Michael. Because my neighbor is named M. Jackson does that make him Michael? Not likely.

And you are factually incorrect about this point, the reason it became a coronor case is because no Dr. agreed to sign the DC at UCLA. Why wouldn't a Dr. sign the DC? Well that is a mystery.
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I must agree the less people involved the better. However 3 people is too 'less'.



If the Coroner makes a fake report, he doesn't need fake body. He simply writes it outta of his... imagination.

Mike needs strong legal back up and protection for all this, trust me. Nobody would help him with hoax... what we've learned all these years, during trial, is that Mike was almost alone in this.... the police, the prosecutors were against him 100% chasing him even he would have hide in a cave in Himalaya mountains...
Only Murray and Coroner is not enough to pull this...

The simplest way to fake a death - is a mountain 'accident' or plane 'accident' in mountains or over deep ocean. Then body wouldn't have been found.... No need for fake autopsy, no need for too many people then.....




I know people here believe into a Hoax theory  but why Mike didn't do it before trial or after trial, when he was truly hurting?

The act of faking ones death is not illegal if money are not involved. No assurance was collected, but what about the contract with AEG, lying in it, then disappearing, what about all the people that bought tickets, bought tickets plane and booked hotels, some of them losing thousands of $ ? Is this nice and trully needed?






I do not believe in a Hoax before 25 June, I might believe in PR damage and plan of hiding the truth post 25 June.

* If Mike is alive than all efforts are to hide it, as PR damage - simple, Mike got very ill and he couldn't perform the concerts, he might have some threats on his life also ( there is a phone recording with Mike, being scared that he would be end up killed/ he phoned that spiritual lady and she put the record on the tv/ what if there's more into it?? ) so police stepped in and he is under protection.
They rushed in 25 June and dropped the news that he was dead ( good idea then, bad idea in long term ) and now all they do is to hide and patch the mistake, and Mike is giving us signs being desperate to communicate with us somehow.
This can explain why his family is not acting sad, but in the same time why some members experience sadness, but not so deep... in fact is more as a level of stress than sadness ( look at Janet tired of all, saying that she wants to let go and look after her life and career )

or

* If he is dead then those signs and 'wonders' are the work of AEG, and they are doing this as PR, to keep the show going on, and money pouring richly towards them. They now our sites, they knew we read their twits and they act accordingly.
The same for some of the brothers... finally in spotlight they enjoy it and they say that all they do is for Mike legacy... and knowing very well that Mike was unto symbols, they use those too, to keep us happy and upbeat about their own projects.
Police and prosecutes - are just lazy, and what we see as fake documents, inconsistencies, it's just their luck of interest in Michael, or even more their happiness that the weirdo is finally gone...
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Brilliant theory,it's very plausible,from the very start i thiought that very few people are involved in the hoax,thanx for sharing.
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I love 3-Way theory and glad to see people sorting out how it could work.
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"For example, the 3 Way is why Murray "interfered" with the emts at the scene, kept "butting in" at UCLA. Remember, Murray was described as "frankly kept getting in the way". Remember that report?
I really don't remember reports of Murray getting in the way.  Bec, can you direct me to that comment and the source ?  And I remember first he wasn't in the ambulance, then he was. Anyone know for sure if he was or wasn't ?
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The 3 way is why Murray did one armed CPR....  Won't hurt Michael yet puts on a good show..... The 3 way is why no mouth to mouth resuscitation was performed....
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I fully get the beauty of this, but  :lol:   if I think about it too much my imagination starts to wander ---
I do think more people would have to be involved though.

Here's the short version of what I think happened and explains the 4 hour practice lapse before Michael got that last punch of prop-fool on the day of June 25th.
:oops: Murray gets off the phone from signaling Bob to have the fake coroner with the fake Death Certificate hiding in the supply closet at UCLA emergency room.

:geek: Ortega“okay guys, don’t be nervous it’s the 3-Way, it’s gonna work.
He, MJ & Doc hold hands in a circle for a moment of energy.

 :geek: Ortega - “bring up the lights slowly, 4-3-2, he smacks the clapper board and twitters “ACTION”.

 :o Kia and the kids down in the kitchen huddled together begin preying in harmony:
“ It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day for a neighbor, could ya be mine….. won’t ya be mine….. ??” Row Row Row yur boat…….

 :shock: :shock: Staff  member dials the phone --

 :arrow: "911, what's the emergency?

 :shock: :shock: "uhh, I need an ambulance as-soon-as-poss-i-ble-sir"….

 :arrow: What's your address?"

 :lol: Michael rolls his eyes & giggles holding up scribbled paper pointing to include the really hard to remember, really important correct zip code :lol:

 :arrow: “Is that a hotel or residence sir ? ? ?

 :shock: :shock: uhh sir, I have, uhh, we have a gentleman here that really needs help and he's not laugh...I, I mean he's not breathing sir...we're trying to pump him but he's not...

 :lol: MJ is doing spins on the bed making silly faces :lol:

 :shock: :shock: what's his age?

 :lol: MJ holds up his hand "honnnnk honnnnk", wiggles his finger, then flips a full open peace sign. :lol:

 :arrow: Okay, you say he's 50, he's not laughing or is he or did you say NOT BREATHING ???

 :shock: :shock: yes sir...he's still warm,,,we're trying to pump him,,,but he's not cooperating...

 :oops: Murray – "quickly, Kia, get Prince up here now,,,,,,,okay,  okay, Paris and Blankie too.

 :shock: :shock: and where is he? He’s what ? You lost the script ? Well get him OFF the friggin bed onto the floor dumbass!

 :lol:  :lol: Just then Michael takes 2 momentum bounces, leaps into a full triple Lindee dismount landing in perfect beautiful balance (as always) onto his toes with full Peter Pan spread eagle. :lol:  :lol:

 :o Kia and the kids enter the doorway ecstatically applauding, shouting, 10 daddy 10……....( edited out later)

 :arrow: ”did anyone witness…I mean, did anyone see….I mean did anyone witness seeing what happened…um, yeah, that’s what I meant to say…

 :shock: :shock: uh, yeah, you won’t believe what I just saw, sir

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: LHAOROFL, MJ covers his face while Murray pretends to start mouth to mouth. :lol:

 :shock: :shock: “No,,, no one saw nothing…just the doctor… the doctor’s the only one here…

 :arrow: ok, we’re on our way…Oh, you say you have a Dr of higher authority than myself there?   huh...okay  :?:

 :oops: :oops: Murray with one arm behind his back pumps 10 push ups…”datroot 1, datroot  2, datroot tree, datroot  4……………..

 :shock: :shock: umm, Yes, but the Dr....he’s not sure how to fake, uhh, do CPR properly….

 :o  :o  :o 99 bottles of prop-po-fol, 99 zz’s of winks, drip one down and pass it around, 98 bottles of ……the children continue in excellence.

 :arrow: Well,, if you have a real doctor there, then why did  you call me ?  Has the TMZ rep arrived yet sir ? Is your surveillance turned on sir ?

 :lol:  :lol: With very a weak pulse from laughter MJ grabs his crotch, jumps over the blue incontinence pad , accidentally breaking his beaded necklace, then lifts up his “Remember the Time” skirt to relieve 350 cc’s into the bottle.   :lol: Hum hum hum hum hummmm ~ hum hum hum hum hummmm ahhhhhhh, then seals it off with a rubber cathetar. :lol:  :lol:

 :geek: “Hey, buddy, Save some for the autopsy “ Ortega twitters softly.

 :arrow: Now, how’s the double doing?  Did he get the pills or did you decide not to use him?

 :o Paris tugs on Ortega’s shirt, “Please please Kenny, I want to be in the movies like daddy and I have something very important to say………..”

 :geek: Ortega – one minute sweetie one minute,,,,OMG, Paris, quick,,, into the phone, say ONE MINUTE JOE…..

 :arrow: What’s happening there, did the doctor figure out the CPR ?

 :shock: :shock: he’s pumping, he’s pumping, but he’s almost unconscious from pumping….

 :oops: “datroot 8, datroot 9, datroot 10………….

 :arrow: We’re on our way, less than a mile, I’m gonna hang up, and if the Dr needs to leave, we can take over for him, no problem

 :geek: Ortega ~ Claps the clapper “Cut,,,,and lights fade down slowly”

 :| Blanket dangling himself over the balcony rail says, “they’re hearrrrrr…………..”

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The simplest way to fake a death - is a mountain 'accident' or plane 'accident' in mountains or over deep ocean. Then body wouldn't have been found.... No need for fake autopsy, no need for too many people then.....

that is easy if the goverment and the state is involved..... otherwise they would have spent a lot of money in searching the body....and that would be a problem for him if he wanted to come back....

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I know people here believe into a Hoax theory  but why Mike didn't do it before trial or after trial, when he was truly hurting?

He would have been in serious trouble.... he had to face that trial... no option here...
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I really don't remember reports of Murray getting in the way.  Bec, can you direct me to that comment and the source ?  

No I'm really sorry, that stuff is so old, I don't have it, and with the way stuff has been vanishing and links been breaking I'm not sure it even exists anymore. I remember it clearly, but that's the best I can say.

Karma, your skit rendition cracked me upppppppp! LOL!!

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Damn straight.

(funnily enough Karma, lower case the b on my name and uppercase it on Badkolo's and you got it right.)
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The simplest way to fake a death - is a mountain 'accident' or plane 'accident' in mountains or over deep ocean. Then body wouldn't have been found.... No need for fake autopsy, no need for too many people then.....

that is easy if the goverment and the state is involved..... otherwise they would have spent a lot of money in searching the body....and that would be a problem for him if he wanted to come back....

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I know people here believe into a Hoax theory  but why Mike didn't do it before trial or after trial, when he was truly hurting?

He would have been in serious trouble.... he had to face that trial... no option here...

Ding ding ding and bingo, right on both counts.

Remember, best lawyers in the biz have ensured no laws broken in the course of a death hoaxing. CYA execution.
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This reminds me, the Coronor put on his facebook somethng like "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" will see if I can find the link and edit it into this post.  Im sure thats what he said, anyone remember that?  It was quite a while ago.


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Yes I remember. He said now I know why "name of some gangsters that I cant remember" say 3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead.

I dont have the link though.
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I suddenly think may be we don't have to constantly look for a proof for death hoax. If Michale did this, then there is a reason and that hoax should not be discovered. What if we disturb Michael's plans and decision of new life presenting all facts of hoax openly, on youtube, other sites. Finally, to whom and what we are trying to prove guys, seriously?   :roll:
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I love 3-Way theory and glad to see people sorting out how it could work.
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"For example, the 3 Way is why Murray "interfered" with the emts at the scene, kept "butting in" at UCLA. Remember, Murray was described as "frankly kept getting in the way". Remember that report?
I really don't remember reports of Murray getting in the way.  Bec, can you direct me to that comment and the source ?  And I remember first he wasn't in the ambulance, then he was. Anyone know for sure if he was or wasn't ?
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The 3 way is why Murray did one armed CPR....  Won't hurt Michael yet puts on a good show..... The 3 way is why no mouth to mouth resuscitation was performed....
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I fully get the beauty of this, but  :lol:   if I think about it too much my imagination starts to wander ---
I do think more people would have to be involved though.

Here's the short version of what I think happened and explains the 4 hour practice lapse before Michael got that last punch of prop-fool on the day of June 25th.
:oops: Murray gets off the phone from signaling Bob to have the fake coroner with the fake Death Certificate hiding in the supply closet at UCLA emergency room.

:geek: Ortega“okay guys, don’t be nervous it’s the 3-Way, it’s gonna work.
He, MJ & Doc hold hands in a circle for a moment of energy.

 :geek: Ortega - “bring up the lights slowly, 4-3-2, he smacks the clapper board and twitters “ACTION”.

 :o Kia and the kids down in the kitchen huddled together begin preying in harmony:
“ It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood, a beautiful day for a neighbor, could ya be mine….. won’t ya be mine….. ??” Row Row Row yur boat…….

 :shock: :shock: Staff  member dials the phone --

 :arrow: "911, what's the emergency?

 :shock: :shock: "uhh, I need an ambulance as-soon-as-poss-i-ble-sir"….

 :arrow: What's your address?"

 :lol: Michael rolls his eyes & giggles holding up scribbled paper pointing to include the really hard to remember, really important correct zip code :lol:

 :arrow: “Is that a hotel or residence sir ? ? ?

 :shock: :shock: uhh sir, I have, uhh, we have a gentleman here that really needs help and he's not laugh...I, I mean he's not breathing sir...we're trying to pump him but he's not...

 :lol: MJ is doing spins on the bed making silly faces :lol:

 :shock: :shock: what's his age?

 :lol: MJ holds up his hand "honnnnk honnnnk", wiggles his finger, then flips a full open peace sign. :lol:

 :arrow: Okay, you say he's 50, he's not laughing or is he or did you say NOT BREATHING ???

 :shock: :shock: yes sir...he's still warm,,,we're trying to pump him,,,but he's not cooperating...

 :oops: Murray – "quickly, Kia, get Prince up here now,,,,,,,okay,  okay, Paris and Blankie too.

 :shock: :shock: and where is he? He’s what ? You lost the script ? Well get him OFF the friggin bed onto the floor dumbass!

 :lol:  :lol: Just then Michael takes 2 momentum bounces, leaps into a full triple Lindee dismount landing in perfect beautiful balance (as always) onto his toes with full Peter Pan spread eagle. :lol:  :lol:

 :o Kia and the kids enter the doorway ecstatically applauding, shouting, 10 daddy 10……....( edited out later)

 :arrow: ”did anyone witness…I mean, did anyone see….I mean did anyone witness seeing what happened…um, yeah, that’s what I meant to say…

 :shock: :shock: uh, yeah, you won’t believe what I just saw, sir

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol: LHAOROFL, MJ covers his face while Murray pretends to start mouth to mouth. :lol:

 :shock: :shock: “No,,, no one saw nothing…just the doctor… the doctor’s the only one here…

 :arrow: ok, we’re on our way…Oh, you say you have a Dr of higher authority than myself there?   huh...okay  :?:

 :oops: :oops: Murray with one arm behind his back pumps 10 push ups…”datroot 1, datroot  2, datroot tree, datroot  4……………..

 :shock: :shock: umm, Yes, but the Dr....he’s not sure how to fake, uhh, do CPR properly….

 :o  :o  :o 99 bottles of prop-po-fol, 99 zz’s of winks, drip one down and pass it around, 98 bottles of ……the children continue in excellence.

 :arrow: Well,, if you have a real doctor there, then why did  you call me ?  Has the TMZ rep arrived yet sir ? Is your surveillance turned on sir ?

 :lol:  :lol: With very a weak pulse from laughter MJ grabs his crotch, jumps over the blue incontinence pad , accidentally breaking his beaded necklace, then lifts up his “Remember the Time” skirt to relieve 350 cc’s into the bottle.   :lol: Hum hum hum hum hummmm ~ hum hum hum hum hummmm ahhhhhhh, then seals it off with a rubber cathetar. :lol:  :lol:

 :geek: “Hey, buddy, Save some for the autopsy “ Ortega twitters softly.

 :arrow: Now, how’s the double doing?  Did he get the pills or did you decide not to use him?

 :o Paris tugs on Ortega’s shirt, “Please please Kenny, I want to be in the movies like daddy and I have something very important to say………..”

 :geek: Ortega – one minute sweetie one minute,,,,OMG, Paris, quick,,, into the phone, say ONE MINUTE JOE…..

 :arrow: What’s happening there, did the doctor figure out the CPR ?

 :shock: :shock: he’s pumping, he’s pumping, but he’s almost unconscious from pumping….

 :oops: “datroot 8, datroot 9, datroot 10………….

 :arrow: We’re on our way, less than a mile, I’m gonna hang up, and if the Dr needs to leave, we can take over for him, no problem

 :geek: Ortega ~ Claps the clapper “Cut,,,,and lights fade down slowly”

 :| Blanket dangling himself over the balcony rail says, “they’re hearrrrrr…………..”

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And that’s how the 3-Way got famous.
 Hat's off to you badkolo

xoxoxo
:lol:  :lol:  :lol:  We have a humorist in da house. I'm telling you da troot!! There's a comedian in da forum! :lol:

That was refreshing.
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Who is Badkolo?  :shock: Please explain or include a link.  Thank you in advance.
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You rocked my world, you know you did
And everything I own I give
The rarest love who\'d think I\'d find
Someone like you to call mine




"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation."
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I suddenly think may be we don't have to constantly look for a proof for death hoax. If Michale did this, then there is a reason and that hoax should not be discovered. What if we disturb Michael's plans and decision of new life presenting all facts of hoax openly, on youtube, other sites. Finally, to whom and what we are trying to prove guys, seriously?   :roll:

Because I like to understand the details of the "where/when/how". Not getting the "how" has eaten at my brain for 7.5 months so I dig it. Call me crazy. Don't roll your eyes at me.
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Who is Badkolo?  :shock: Please explain or include a link.  Thank you in advance.

Da BOSS. Da BIG MAN.
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Who is Badkolo?  :shock: Please explain or include a link.  Thank you in advance.

Da BOSS. Da BIG MAN.
Oh okay. Thank you, Bec! :D
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You rocked my world, you know you did
And everything I own I give
The rarest love who\'d think I\'d find
Someone like you to call mine




"Let us dream of tomorrow where we can truly love from the soul, and know love as the ultimate truth at the heart of all creation."
------Michael Jackson


Those who go beneath the surface do so at their peril. --Oscar Wilde

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What's been messin' w/my head is LAPD's actual role...from that day, up 'til now.
Supposedly, this all entails "official" business.

As far as I'm concerned, Michael is officially, unofficial and unofficially official  :idea:  
Just Michael; true to himself, his children, family, all who love him and the world.
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We need to give Michael a living legacy of true honor.
"Stand-up, stand-up" to clear his name.
Isn\'t this the least we can do for him ?

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First Off thanks to bec for putting it out there, some others like mary also know of the 3 way theory back on the old mjhd.

The 3 way was just the simplest form of this hoax, obviously others would know, I would expect his kids to know, maybe some family members, lawyers etc..


But to perform the actual hoax on that day I concluded 3 is what is needed, Besides that we have the ambulance drivers at the house so that ads to the number but in what capacity . I dont know how to handle certain parts of my theory since i can find holes in every theory but in no way did my theory mean that only 3 people are involved.

Removing anyone else that is involved which there must be a few and then take into account that on the day the hoax was started only michael, murray and the coroner are needed.

If we look at the pictures of the ambulance at UCLA and if we are going to say michael was moving on the stretcher then we have to agree they all know hes alive and if so why hasnt anyone said anything.

If it was someone elses body moving and not michaels then you still have all those people knowing but That can be pushed to the side if it was all a distraction, meaning someone else was on the stretcher and they went in that entrance to distract people.
I dont know how to handle that.

Also I am stuck at the house, if no one died then the ambulance people are in on it becuase they claimed to work on someone.
If there is a body and it wasnt michaels then again we have murray, then the coroner who creates an autopsy on this body which isnt michaels.

Im trying to peace together the important hours and that is what happened at the house, those initial hours are key.
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Look, I mean no offence as I myself am no good at formulating splendid theories such as the Movie Theory......Simply because I dont realy have all the time on my hands to think about this a lot.....My work keeps very busy and al I can manage is sit down wearily in front of my computer and log in here...and post some random thoughts from time to time........

All I wanted to say is.....that...Dont we know this already?? I mean whats novel about this theory? The only good thing is that badkolo managed to think about this a far back as July 2009.....When we were STILL speculating about all the possibiities and angles.......But apart from that, the possibility of Conrad Murray and the Coroner being in on the hoax......has been discussed and reiterated time and again on MJHD and also on this Forum......

Fogive me for my inability to see the latent brilliance of this particuar theory......No Offense once again....

But can anyone jsut explain why is this well-known fact so important??  BTW, All credit to Badkolo for beng the first to assert that CM and Coroner could have a pivotal role in the hoax.
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IS TIAI REDIRECTING HERE???  :shock:
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IS TIAI REDIRECTING HERE???  :shock:

It redirects me to this
[youtube:8rozac1i]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgCMNCGskWo[/youtube:8rozac1i]
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bec, everyone is entitled to question this theory, if it holds water then the theory should be strong enough to be tested.

i am sure that there is a core group, but it must include the family, his children, i dont believe it would include professional pp who are in the line of fire, because of the risk involved, we have criminal proceedings now and they thus stand to be prosecuted.

who wants to go to prison and especially in america, especially when you have a soft type of job.

dont bash pp for saying - lets just think this thru.
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Lol. You guys are getting it. Delightful. I'm so glad I was able to transmit THE 3 Way Theory to the masses. It's brilliance, pure, simple brilliance, and it's been underground far too long. When I read this a long 7 months ago, my world changed forever.

(ps, I believe I was incorrect about stating Badkolo first presented this in August, rather, late July may be more accurate. I edited my original post)

The beauty of the 3 way theory is that it opens up many other avenues of thought, and works as a jump off point for brainstorming, as well as the fact that it keeps you centered and focused, staying well within the rhelms of reality and common sense.

For example, the 3 Way is why Murray "interfered" with the emts at the scene, kept "butting in" at UCLA. Remember, Murray was described as "frankly kept getting in the way". Remember that report?

The 3 way is why Murray did one armed CPR. Totally ineffective in a real cardiac arrest, yet perfect for the situation. Won't hurt Michael yet puts on a good show. Perhaps this is why Murray did one armed CPR on the bed too.

The 3 way is why no defibrulator was used, and why the claim of "weak pulse" was reported. Can't defib with a weak pulse, you'll kill the man, and defib would certainly kill a live and well Michael faking cardiac arrest. Who reported weak pulse? Murray.

The 3 way is why no mouth to mouth resescitation was performed. Can't do this on a live person, can be very harmful. Again, one armed CPR, totally ineffective, but innocuous, and puts on a good show.

The 3 way is why no doctor would sign the DC at UCLA and why no UCLA spokesperson would make a statement. No one actually SAW Michael dead. No one was going to go on record based on hearsay.

And there's so much more I could say but at some point I have to quit typing.

The member here who brought up the coronor's tweet about 3 men keeping a secret if two are dead, yes, when that came out... well... it simply further supported the 3 way. That and about 1000 other weird events and reports since last summer.
surely if no one saw mike dead, someone would have said that?
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so why were the ambulance crew working on mike or werent they?

so how did mike get out of the hospital,

a body way taken out of the hospital on to the heli, but a board came out of the heli and was transported to the coroner's - if the coroner was in it ok he accepted a board, but equally he could have accepted the real mj?

were is mike now?

who is caring for him?
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you cant say that this is the only remaining hoax and that it stands - i dont see that

i just know you wont accept this and that you will take deep offence  and be rude as hell, but i think you have to think both inside and outside of the box and to play devils advocate

you cant just say - that your right and other pp have to prove themselves otherwise
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good job bec!! this post was quick and to the point  :D  :D
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