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You say I'm wrong, so you gotta prove you're right.We have been presented an initial and a last name. Someone jumped to the conclusion that it must be this Dr. that works at ucla. Any substantiation? A statement? A link? Anything?If this dr. was so real, why not sign the DC right then and there. Why not make a statement. Why did this fall to Jermaine. Why did this become a coronor case.Because it's bullshit. Again. Look deeper into what we are given and take nothing at face value without substantiation. Use logic and reasoning, common sense and fact. The theory stands.Ps. remember the name DB Cooper. If you don't know who that is/was, Googleing is highly recomended.Da Troot: read the italiced paragraph at the end, I addressed this thought.
Quote from: "karmaknowstruth"I sure don't recall seeing any photos taken inside the hospital do you ?In fact of any interviews or vids or pics of the family rushing to the hospital did we ever see the hospital in the background to prove they were actually there ?Was there a pic or video showing us a body on a cart being taken into the hospital? For all we know a bunch of actors got permission to do a Hollywood shoot in front of the emergency room doors. Anything we know we were TOLD or we READ.It was even proved how 7 photos could be layered on top each other to make a video scene of Michael on a cart shielded by men holding suit jackets up for a screen, by Bec I believe it was. Remember the video of when Jermaine walked across a stage to announce that his brother Michael was in fact dead? I thought it was odd we could not see the news media in the foreground, but could only see camera flashes. Help me remember - did we ever see an official from UCLA make an official announcement? The magic of Hollywood is so easy even a kid could make anything believable with a digital camera and a good computer program.There does not need to be a real body to pull off a hoax. There only needs to be a story that the people can believe. We have not seen a body. We were only TOLD there was a body and TOLD all about what they did to the body.Hope I helped with a different perspective on a body.xoxoxoNow this makes much more sense to me that the idea of murray entering a real hospital and taking the command of everything when he s not even able to do CPR. U r right we never saw anything that proves it was really in UCLA (well as far as i remember)
I sure don't recall seeing any photos taken inside the hospital do you ?In fact of any interviews or vids or pics of the family rushing to the hospital did we ever see the hospital in the background to prove they were actually there ?Was there a pic or video showing us a body on a cart being taken into the hospital? For all we know a bunch of actors got permission to do a Hollywood shoot in front of the emergency room doors. Anything we know we were TOLD or we READ.It was even proved how 7 photos could be layered on top each other to make a video scene of Michael on a cart shielded by men holding suit jackets up for a screen, by Bec I believe it was. Remember the video of when Jermaine walked across a stage to announce that his brother Michael was in fact dead? I thought it was odd we could not see the news media in the foreground, but could only see camera flashes. Help me remember - did we ever see an official from UCLA make an official announcement? The magic of Hollywood is so easy even a kid could make anything believable with a digital camera and a good computer program.There does not need to be a real body to pull off a hoax. There only needs to be a story that the people can believe. We have not seen a body. We were only TOLD there was a body and TOLD all about what they did to the body.Hope I helped with a different perspective on a body.xoxoxo
One Doctor would be needed to get Michael to the hospital because he MUST be pronounced dead at a hospital. Michael may NOT be pronounced dead anywhere else as more complicated legalities are involved in death occuring outside of a medical facility. The "scene" must be sealed, police must be brought in, pictures must be taken and detectives must be involved immediatly. This is entirely too many witnesses to attempt to deal with. This scenario is unacceptable. No. Michael MUST be taken to a hospital where the situation can be controlled, and "death" becomes a simple matter of paperwork. Dr. Murray plays this role. Remember, Murray "overrules" the paramedics at the scene and accompanies Michael's "body" to UCLA. It can safely be assumed (in leu of any information at all) that Murray conceivably could have, being a medical professional and attending physician, retained specific priviliges that allowed him to control situations once at UCLA as well. It is very very conceivable that Murray could have gotten Michael into that "closed off wing" of UCLA ER and simply out the back door, then he could have easily turned it into a "he said/she said situation from there, and no one would be the wiser, simply following orders and passing along information that they have been told.
Quote from: "bec"You say I'm wrong, so you gotta prove you're right.We have been presented an initial and a last name. Someone jumped to the conclusion that it must be this Dr. that works at ucla. Any substantiation? A statement? A link? Anything?If this dr. was so real, why not sign the DC right then and there. Why not make a statement. Why did this fall to Jermaine. Why did this become a coronor case.Because it's bullshit. Again. Look deeper into what we are given and take nothing at face value without substantiation. Use logic and reasoning, common sense and fact. The theory stands.Ps. remember the name DB Cooper. If you don't know who that is/was, Googleing is highly recomended.Da Troot: read the italiced paragraph at the end, I addressed this thought.Calm down...I didn't say you were wrong, I only asked you a question...you don't have to get so defensive. The onus is on you to prove your theory if you want people to believe it. There is nothing about what you posted that is based in "logic and reasoning, common sense and fact"...it's just a theory. You can see that there is a Dr. Cooper who works at UCLA, it's on their website. Don't you think they might wonder why their name is on Michael's autopsy report if they didn't work on him, or they're not in on it? Although I believe if this is a hoax there would have to be very few people who know, there would have to be a lot more than three if you're saying it was really Michael himself that was transported to the hospital. If it were a body double, then that is more plausible. And the reason this became a coroner case is because a 50 year old dying from respiratory arrest is not a natural death.
Bec"For example, the 3 Way is why Murray "interfered" with the emts at the scene, kept "butting in" at UCLA. Remember, Murray was described as "frankly kept getting in the way". Remember that report?
The 3 way is why Murray did one armed CPR.... Won't hurt Michael yet puts on a good show..... The 3 way is why no mouth to mouth resuscitation was performed....
I fully get the beauty of this, but :lol: if I think about it too much my imagination starts to wander ---I do think more people would have to be involved though.Here's the short version of what I think happened and explains the 4 hour practice lapse before Michael got that last punch of prop-fool on the day of June 25th.
And that’s how the 3-Way got famous. Hat's off to you badkolo
The simplest way to fake a death - is a mountain 'accident' or plane 'accident' in mountains or over deep ocean. Then body wouldn't have been found.... No need for fake autopsy, no need for too many people then.....
I know people here believe into a Hoax theory but why Mike didn't do it before trial or after trial, when he was truly hurting?
I really don't remember reports of Murray getting in the way. Bec, can you direct me to that comment and the source ?
Hat's off to you badkolo
Quote from: "tipareth"The simplest way to fake a death - is a mountain 'accident' or plane 'accident' in mountains or over deep ocean. Then body wouldn't have been found.... No need for fake autopsy, no need for too many people then.....that is easy if the goverment and the state is involved..... otherwise they would have spent a lot of money in searching the body....and that would be a problem for him if he wanted to come back....Quote from: "tipareth"I know people here believe into a Hoax theory but why Mike didn't do it before trial or after trial, when he was truly hurting? He would have been in serious trouble.... he had to face that trial... no option here...
This reminds me, the Coronor put on his facebook somethng like "3 can keep a secret if 2 are dead" will see if I can find the link and edit it into this post. Im sure thats what he said, anyone remember that? It was quite a while ago.
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