Have you realized we are in war?

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Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 13, 2010, 07:10:50 PM
They don´t call things what they are, and they don´t point much attention where they don´t want but...

Have you realized we are in war?

http://http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/afghanistan/7230940/First-stage-of-operation-Moshtarak-declared-a-success.html

http://http://www.elpais.com/articulo/internacional/OTAN/asalta/feudos/talibanes/elpepuint/20100213elpepuint_4/Tes

I´m not going to post more links, as it´s really easy to find.
But is it that easy to realize?

Ah, those are the troops that went there to guarantee the elections, but once they´re there and we forgot...

Thank you Obama, now we know you deserved your Prize.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 14, 2010, 08:29:02 AM
Yes we are in the World War 3 at the moment, I think this has been going on a long way back but people seem to be happy brainwashed and watching television and worrying about material things and their own problems rather than looking around themselves and waking up and do something before it's too late. Thank you for sharing the links!
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 14, 2010, 09:25:13 AM
I worry for the children
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 14, 2010, 12:19:25 PM
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I worry for the children

Yeahhh!

And here we go...

Afghan Civilians Killed in Offensive on Taliban http://http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/15/world/asia/15afghan.html?hp
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 14, 2010, 12:32:30 PM
This is what I like about this forum. This is one of the few gatherings of intelligent, wide-awake people from all over the world that know what's going on (or at least have the sense to enquire as to what's going on--as much as we are allowed to know).
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 14, 2010, 03:43:37 PM
This is a crazy world we´re living in, as you can be in war and not even notice it...
And here, we would be hypocrite if we were talking about Mike´s message and don´t care about this fact, wouldn´t we.  ;)

A pitty that we can do very litte but...
There´s nothing that can be done if we rise our voice as one.

But we need lots of AWAKENING still... innocent people are dying.
We´re starving and sending troops... and nobody says anything.  :cry:
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 10:25:39 AM
And pointing higher...

..Clinton Cites U.S. Concerns of Military Power in Iran
http://http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/16/world/middleeast/16diplo.html?hp

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Mrs. Clinton said “We see that the government in Iran, the supreme leader, the president, the Parliament, is being supplanted and that Iran is moving towards a military dictatorship.”

I´m really worried about what they are doing with Iran...
They can move all this just omitting that Iran as no nuclear power and they need it...
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 10:33:22 AM
Of course we've been at war by those that want to destory our way of life and our freedoms.   And sometimes you have to fight to protect those freedoms we all enjoy and for justice.  And yes, sometimes war is ugly and sometimes unavoidable.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 10:45:18 AM
Quote from: "somekindofsign"
This is a crazy world we´re living in, as you can be in war and not even notice it...
And here, we would be hypocrite if we were talking about Mike´s message and don´t care about this fact, wouldn´t we.  ;)

A pitty that we can do very litte but...
There´s nothing that can be done if we rise our voice as one.

But we need lots of AWAKENING still... innocent people are dying.
We´re starving and sending troops... and nobody says anything.  :cry:

Love your comment. I think we can do a lot if we just try to make people aware of some facts and what is going on in this world. Some people do not want to see the suffering around them because they cannot stand it and have no idea how to handle it some just are not educated and here is our chance. I think that to change peoples mind we should start with information ...this is the only chance we have...if we just start with our relationships there is alot done.

Thank you
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 10:55:03 AM
You know what bugs me the most, that is that when you tell people about all of this they have an ''I don't care'' attitude towards it. I cannot understand that people don't want to know or see the REAL TRUTH they rather stay in the fake illusion ''they'' are creating. People really need to wake up before it's too late, that is something I worry about alot.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 11:01:48 AM
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You know what bugs me the most, that is that when you tell people about all of this they have an ''I don't care'' attitude towards it. I cannot understand that people don't want to know or see the REAL TRUTH they rather stay in the fake illusion ''they'' are creating. People really need to wake up before it's too late, that is something I worry about alot.

Oh yes, this is most of the time what I have experienced and I do not understand it too. It is hard to be different and see things others never will mention or understand. They maybe think that we are "crazy" just because we do pay attention to opinions which are not popular. Most of the people are scared or just ignorant.I do not know how to express it exactly and not to hurt this people at the same time. I believe that some are just blind.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 11:11:24 AM
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You know what bugs me the most, that is that when you tell people about all of this they have an ''I don't care'' attitude towards it. I cannot understand that people don't want to know or see the REAL TRUTH they rather stay in the fake illusion ''they'' are creating. People really need to wake up before it's too late, that is something I worry about alot.


It's much easier to close ones eyes and pretend it's not there. Especially when it's not on our own soil or if it's not our loved ones putting themselves in harms way. Unless it touches people on a personal level, most choose to ignore the facts. I, myself, see need for war at times but there are also decisions being made that don't seem to have anything to do with freedom. God have mercy on us all.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 11:23:13 AM
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It's much easier to close ones eyes and pretend it's not there. Especially when it's not on our own soil or if it's not our loved ones putting themselves in harms way.

I´m really really sorry to point this, but I can´t avoid relating that fact with 9/11, 3/11 and 7/7. In these moments people had a glimpse of that fact. It seems as if things may get worse so that people waked up. Hope not!

There´s no better prison than this one where you don´t realize you´re in it...

But where is the red line?
It goes higher and higher and awakening does not happen.
Or it is happening slowly. This "hoax/death/murder" has played a big role.

Ah! And thanks you for joining this thread. It would have been a little bit disappointing otherwise. But no... you´re here  ;)

I L.O.V.E this forum!

I L.O.V.E. you guys!  :lol:
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 11:26:25 AM
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Of course we've been at war by those that want to destory our way of life and our freedoms.   And sometimes you have to fight to protect those freedoms we all enjoy and for justice.  And yes, sometimes war is ugly and sometimes unavoidable.

Yes, but the big question is: WHO wants to destroy our way of life and our freedom?
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 03:02:26 PM
You guys are right.  By the time people wake up from the drug-like state they are in, induced by TV and its subliminal messages, it will be too late.  
Basically, where I live--Italy--the Parliament  is being supplanted too.  The government is issuing executive orders and the MPs and senators do as they are told.  The government is also trying to control the judiciary branch.  But everyone listens to the news and they are told things are fine, great.
Après moi, le déluge.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 03:27:33 PM
http://www.ae911truth.org/

Please take a look at this page and pay attention to them on 2/19...they will be holding a conference in california, it will be interesting to see what all of thes educated/scientific men and women will have to say concerning our government!

I also watched many documentaries last night on YT concerning our alleged trip to the moon and I know agree that it was an awful hoax that our government and nasa pulled on the entire world!

Yes we are at war...with other countries as well as ourselves, please take a look at your local newspaper and you will see that many family members are killing one another over arguments...employees killing employers or coworkers because of a disagreement or layoff...we are truly going mad and we are so desensitized we are not even batting an eyelash as to what is happening in our own neigborhood let alone across the seas!

The question is; 'what are we going to do about it'?
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 04:15:23 PM
Thanks for posting the 911 information. It was heartening to see that the petition has been written by professionals in the building field who can voice their claims coherently.  I have always questioned the event, but I am always shut down.  I really do not know how to defend myself.  The same thing about the moon hoax.  Although now people are finally realizing how improbable it was because it looks hopelessly low tech compared to our era.  I've worked in the space field in adminstration and the topic is avoided or skirted.
I agree with you--people are at war.  I can see the lack of manners and humanity all over.  People do not want to start a conversation.  Where I live in Rome, there are beggars on the commuter trains, the streets.  People go through the garbage bins at all hours. It is quite shocking.  
I think most people are stunned at what is going on and are afraid of facing the truth.  When I was young, we fought the war in Vietnam. We won the right to vote at 18 and the draft was eventually stopped. But there were a lot of us and times were different.  I think that materialism has taken people over.  They are more concerned with their electronic toys, their holidays, their clothes.
My way of dealing with it is by starting a debate.  I say, "Do you think people really landed on the moon?".  Sometimes I really get a lot of flack, but sometimes I don't.  We have to wake people up.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 09:21:56 PM
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Yes, but the big question is: WHO wants to destroy our way of life and our freedom?

Yes, OF COURSE.

And yes, AMUSMENT, BREAD AND CIRCUS.

There´s no bettet prison that this one where you don´t realize you´re in it...
(Don´t know if the quote is that way in English)

And by the way, a little bit off topic, about amusment.
You people from USA, I´m sorry for you, as they have sold you our SOCCER (what we call foobball) just in a few years, big deal there, eh?...
I see it every where in movies, series...
where there was baseball or your football... no there´s soccer.
Consider yourself globalized.
No we  have a global CIRCUS.
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 15, 2010, 09:33:58 PM
Liegi, I´d like to know from your perspective of the times, if you please, just a words.

Do you think we, the people, are clearly going backwards from some decades ago?
Has our situation remarkably worsen? or it has always been the same?
Of course rich are richer and poor poorer.
Are they more and more barefaced and we are living an unseen moment?
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 16, 2010, 02:26:25 PM
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Of course we've been at war by those that want to destory our way of life and our freedoms.   And sometimes you have to fight to protect those freedoms we all enjoy and for justice.  And yes, sometimes war is ugly and sometimes unavoidable.

Yes, but the big question is: WHO wants to destroy our way of life and our freedom?


Isnt there a blog on here about "them"? LOL
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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 16, 2010, 03:02:34 PM
Stanley A. McChrystal. He apologized to President Hamid Karzai, saying, “We deeply regret this tragic loss of life.”

It is clear that with this awareness, as usual, we were wrong, we apologize, Nobel prize ... Obama is the war :x

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Re: Have you realized we are in war?

  • on: February 28, 2010, 08:33:32 AM
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You know what bugs me the most, that is that when you tell people about all of this they have an ''I don't care'' attitude towards it. I cannot understand that people don't want to know or see the REAL TRUTH they rather stay in the fake illusion ''they'' are creating. People really need to wake up before it's too late, that is something I worry about alot.

Oh yes, this is most of the time what I have experienced and I do not understand it too. It is hard to be different and see things others never will mention or understand. They maybe think that we are "crazy" just because we do pay attention to opinions which are not popular. Most of the people are scared or just ignorant.I do not know how to express it exactly and not to hurt this people at the same time. I believe that some are just blind.

I absolutely agree with you, Shout!
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