Jacksons implicate Illuminati/Freemasons in MJ death

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Jacksons implicate Illuminati/Freemasons in MJ death

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'The Jackson family has stated they believe Murray was an accomplice in an evil cabal, possibly connected to Freemasons and the Illuminati cult, and plot against Michael to drug, control and murder him for monetary gain'

http://peoplemagazinedaily.com/?p=4714

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Interesting, but I would have loved to see a source. If the Jacksons are going to mention this now, I wonder what the naysayers will come up with... ;)
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We've already realized that the Illuminati could be a part of the reasons for him to hoax his death! Is this a "conventional" magazine/website?
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Interesting, but I would have loved to see a source. If the Jacksons are going to mention this now, I wonder what the naysayers will come up with... ;)

Oh yeaaaaaaaaah i can't wait to say 'i told you so!!' :D
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We've already realized that the Illuminati could be a part of the reasons for him to hoax his death! Is this a "conventional" magazine/website?


Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
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Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
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This is also posted on their site:
CNN Hunts Down Freemason in U.S. Government
Earth’s largest and oldest secret fraternity has had wide influence on the construction of Washington D.C.’s layout and the people who make up the U.S. government.

While in the halls of Congress on Oct. 6, CNN’s reporters were met mostly with politicians who did not want to speak to them. A couple senators did speak but divulged very little information about their fraternity.

WV Democratic Representative Nick Rahall educated the reporters about the Masonic compass and square symbol and recited a short history of his involvement as a Freemason.

The “my am” anchors let the viewers know they did not really believe Rahall when he said the Masons are not trying to rule the world.

CNN also briefly explained the Freemasonic connection to the Declaration of Independence, the founding fathers of the USA, members including Presidents and Congress members, and one of the many road symbols in the layout of Washington.

They only point out the Masonic compass and square created by the streets around the Capitol Building. Other occult Masonic formations include an owl around the Capitol Building, an upside-down pentagram stemming from the White House and a pyramid. We will explain these formations in greater depth in a later article.
http://peoplemagazinedaily.com/?p=2443
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Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.


I am not dismissing anything, but I would like to have a source. This might be a start, let's see what happens next.
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Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
Is there a reason for these opposite statements..? @_@
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Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.


I am not dismissing anything, but I would like to have a source. This might be a start, let's see what happens next.
Yeah- I immediately thought when I saw the thread title "Michael is starting to get his message through to the masses"- I sense that the end of the hoax could very well near if more like this comes out!
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Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
Is there a reason for these opposite statements..? @_@

 :lol:

Different opinions maybe?

I've read the tabloids, newspapers, & People magazine.

Of them all, People magazine seems to be the one that the celebrities themselves goto when they want to "set the record straight" or come out about something in an informal way.  Which is why I consider it "pretty respected" but not on par with say, The New York Times or Time Magazine.
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Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.


I am not dismissing anything, but I would like to have a source. This might be a start, let's see what happens next.
Yeah- I immediately thought when I saw the thread title "Michael is starting to get his message through to the masses"- I sense that the end of the hoax could very well near if more like this comes out!

IMO the hoax will only come to an end IF this all comes out. If not it will not be safe for him to return.
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Interesting...
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After looking through their website, I have concluded it is NOT a reliable source.  They often cite The Enquirer or News of the World as the source of their stories.   :roll:
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Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.


I am not dismissing anything, but I would like to have a source. This might be a start, let's see what happens next.
Yeah- I immediately thought when I saw the thread title "Michael is starting to get his message through to the masses"- I sense that the end of the hoax could very well near if more like this comes out!

IMO the hoax will only come to an end IF this all comes out. If not it will not be safe for him to return.
How would that work, about stuff coming out? This could mean it's starting to..
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Yeah- I immediately thought when I saw the thread title "Michael is starting to get his message through to the masses"- I sense that the end of the hoax could very well near if more like this comes out!

But the mere mention of 'illuminati/freemasons' by the family (if true) does not automatically support a hoax theory. It's fair to say it could mean also he was murdered by those they implicate?
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Yeah- I immediately thought when I saw the thread title "Michael is starting to get his message through to the masses"- I sense that the end of the hoax could very well near if more like this comes out!

But the mere mention of 'illuminati/freemasons' by the family (if true) does not automatically support a hoax theory. It's fair to say it could mean also he was murdered by those they implicate?
Of course I know that, but there's also been people looking into that since the 25th. Don't be so quick to push me to believe he's passed..
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Yeah- I immediately thought when I saw the thread title "Michael is starting to get his message through to the masses"- I sense that the end of the hoax could very well near if more like this comes out!

But the mere mention of 'illuminati/freemasons' by the family (if true) does not automatically support a hoax theory. It's fair to say it could mean also he was murdered by those they implicate?

Well, he is not dead, so you can rule out murder here...

And reliable or not, the fact that it's out there is a start.
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Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
Is there a reason for these opposite statements..? @_@

 :lol:

Different opinions maybe?

I've read the tabloids, newspapers, & People magazine.

Of them all, People magazine seems to be the one that the celebrities themselves goto when they want to "set the record straight" or come out about something in an informal way.  Which is why I consider it "pretty respected" but not on par with say, The New York Times or Time Magazine.

You are right and wrong.. lol.. and not your fault.  :D People magazine that is in print is the Celeb one. (they do have a site too, but the point I am making is this is a different one that you are thinking about).
This particular site they are talking about is not the same thing. That site seems unreliable.
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Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
Is there a reason for these opposite statements..? @_@

 :lol:

Different opinions maybe?

I've read the tabloids, newspapers, & People magazine.

Of them all, People magazine seems to be the one that the celebrities themselves goto when they want to "set the record straight" or come out about something in an informal way.  Which is why I consider it "pretty respected" but not on par with say, The New York Times or Time Magazine.

You are right and wrong.. lol.. and not your fault.  :D People magazine that is in print is the Celeb one. (they do have a site too, but the point I am making is this is a different one that you are thinking about).
This particular site they are talking about is not the same thing. That site seems unreliable.

Reliable or not, they do have quotes and Joe's statements at LKL says it all, see link I posted above. Means it's out there for non believers to read, someone has to start the shit train, I can only hope the rest will follow...
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Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
Is there a reason for these opposite statements..? @_@

 :lol:

Different opinions maybe?

I've read the tabloids, newspapers, & People magazine.

Of them all, People magazine seems to be the one that the celebrities themselves goto when they want to "set the record straight" or come out about something in an informal way.  Which is why I consider it "pretty respected" but not on par with say, The New York Times or Time Magazine.

You are right and wrong.. lol.. and not your fault.  :D People magazine that is in print is the Celeb one. (they do have a site too, but the point I am making is this is a different one that you are thinking about).
This particular site they are talking about is not the same thing. That site seems unreliable.

Reliable or not, they do have quotes and Joe's statements at LKL says it all, see link I posted above. Means it's out there for non believers to read, someone has to start the shit train, I can only hope the rest will follow...
Haha, Souza! Is there any way we could, like send suggestions to newspapers and whatnot to think about running stories like this, to help out?
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Well, he is not dead, so you can rule out murder here...

And reliable or not, the fact that it's out there is a start.

Rule out murder? Rule out death? Where is the unequivocal evidence for that, backed up with sources of course. My statement was neither controversial nor inflammatory. Not designed to provoke, just an equal opinion. Actually just an obvious observation, that such an ambiguous 'statement' can go either way. I didn't actually say that it 'definitely does not support hoax theory' and i also stated that it 'could mean' not 'does mean' he was murdered. How is it ok for yourself to state 'he is not dead' and not ok for me to say he 'could be murdered'?

You seem angry though that I even mentioned the possibility of death. Remember, i posted this so that people could discuss.
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Yup!  People is pretty respected.
It's definitely NOT TMZ or News of The World...

Which makes me shocked that they would even say this!
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Well, as 'The People' magazine is not considered to be a reliable source(?), i guess we can dismiss this then, particularly as there are no quotes from the family.
Is there a reason for these opposite statements..? @_@

 :lol:

Different opinions maybe?

I've read the tabloids, newspapers, & People magazine.

Of them all, People magazine seems to be the one that the celebrities themselves goto when they want to "set the record straight" or come out about something in an informal way.  Which is why I consider it "pretty respected" but not on par with say, The New York Times or Time Magazine.

You are right and wrong.. lol.. and not your fault.  :D People magazine that is in print is the Celeb one. (they do have a site too, but the point I am making is this is a different one that you are thinking about).
This particular site they are talking about is not the same thing. That site seems unreliable.

Reliable or not, they do have quotes and Joe's statements at LKL says it all, see link I posted above. Means it's out there for non believers to read, someone has to start the shit train, I can only hope the rest will follow...
Haha, Souza! Is there any way we could, like send suggestions to newspapers and whatnot to think about running stories like this, to help out?

They will come. Don't you think they read our stuff? Mo and I are bombarded with mails from alleged reporters. The train needs to get going first before the rest will follow. France, England and Germany have mentioned the hoax already in different ways, the rest will come too, just wait and see. The autopsy report is clearly not MJ's, so they HAVE TO question his death now, otherwise they would make a fool out of themselves.
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