LAFD says they stabilized Michael

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LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 06:46:05 PM
Great find from Venus7 and I apologize if this has been covered but Steve Ruda from LAFD says they had to work on MJ for the length of time they did to stabilize him and the hospital said there isn't more you can do for him in the field...let's package Mr. Jackson and take him to UCLA - so he is saying they stabilized him....wth???

Please watch this link at around 5:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT0I1YcOQk
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 06:48:56 PM
I have pointed this out before.  It seems really strange that the chief said they didn't take him to the hospital until he was stabilized, and the EMTs say he was already gone.

Just another contradiction in this saga.
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 06:58:14 PM
Who in the right mind a (cardiologist) doing cpr on a bed.. I think I can teach him a thing or two..  Nothing was kosher that day.. Nothing..  :x
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 07:02:38 PM
I FOUND THIS ONLINE NOT THAT ITS THAT RELIABLE OR ANYTHING




hotoffthepress · 33 weeks ago
A friend of mine who works for the fire department near UCLA has spoken to the paramedics who tried to save jacksons life. Both paramedics have told him that the scene on arrival at the stars home had an 'unusual feel' about it, that something seemed out of place. on examining the stars collapsed body, it was clear that he had undergone recent surgery and 'didn't look like any of the photo's' the paramedics had seen. both are uncertain that the person they took to ucla, was indeed the 50 year old star.
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 07:06:36 PM
well it is there on tape so what on earth is going on
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 07:08:10 PM
Well, that would explain that he looked Asian to some.

They didn't happen to mention whether they took a stabilized or a dead person to UCLA, did they?  

Wonder what recent surgery they could be talking about.  I don't think MJ had "surgery", just some cosmetic touch ups.
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 07:19:46 PM
Isn't it interesting they haven't given more interviews!  It seems these guys have dropped off the face of the earth.  I wonder what type of surgery???  It could not have been Michael.
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 11:02:25 PM
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hotoffthepress · 33 weeks ago
A friend of mine who works for the fire department near UCLA has spoken to the paramedics who tried to save jacksons life. Both paramedics have told him that the scene on arrival at the stars home had an 'unusual feel' about it, that something seemed out of place. on examining the stars collapsed body, it was clear that he had undergone recent surgery and 'didn't look like any of the photo's' the paramedics had seen. both are uncertain that the person they took to ucla, was indeed the 50 year old star.[/quote

Wow! That is good news. Everything was not kosher that day.. Thinks do not add up. I have a friend who is a photographer, and he told me that it is impossible to take a picture with tinted windows, even if you have special lenses.You cannot see anything, photos come out blank.We did a test and no pictures came out.  Limos have tinted windows, because for privacy. Any celebraties who would be in a limo would not be able to be photographed unless they open the window. This is a proven factor. So that picture of Michael  in the ambulance was not taken that day..
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 11:46:35 PM
missmyking.. that is a very distracting signature you have .. I can't focus on what your saying .. :lol:
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 16, 2010, 11:54:19 PM
In reply to the OP, that 'unusual feel' would be very likely if the scene had been staged!
And bravo to the person with the taking a pic through a tinted window experiment!!!!
That's great news and solid proof.
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 17, 2010, 12:01:07 AM
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hotoffthepress · 33 weeks ago
A friend of mine who works for the fire department near UCLA has spoken to the paramedics who tried to save jacksons life. Both paramedics have told him that the scene on arrival at the stars home had an 'unusual feel' about it, that something seemed out of place. on examining the stars collapsed body, it was clear that he had undergone recent surgery and 'didn't look like any of the photo's' the paramedics had seen. both are uncertain that the person they took to ucla, was indeed the 50 year old star.[/quote

Wow! That is good news. Everything was not kosher that day.. Thinks do not add up. I have a friend who is a photographer, and he told me that it is impossible to take a picture with tinted windows, even if you have special lenses.You cannot see anything, photos come out blank.We did a test and no pictures came out.  Limos have tinted windows, because for privacy. Any celebraties who would be in a limo would not be able to be photographed unless they open the window. This is a proven factor. So that picture of Michael  in the ambulance was not taken that day..


Yes! of course! my teory is that there is a body! but not Michael.... that would explain a lot of things... there is an interesting post about it....

viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5391

I´m not saying I´m fully convinced of this teory.... but it´s interesting.... and I think is close to what could have happened....
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 17, 2010, 04:21:07 AM
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Great find from Venus7 and I apologize if this has been covered but Steve Ruda from LAFD says they had to work on MJ for the length of time they did to stabilize him and the hospital said there isn't more you can do for him in the field...let's package Mr. Jackson and take him to UCLA - so he is saying they stabilized him....wth???

Please watch this link at around 5:30.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJT0I1YcOQk
Thanks Venus7 & MJKate, very interesting video.
It does appear from the chief's statement that they did stabilise him and then transported him to UCLA: they worked on him at least to the point that they could not do anything further in the field (=MJJ residence) for him. In addition, the chief also says UCLA was "only a few minutes away". If MJ was already dead by then, it would not have mattered anymore how far UCLA was away. Also officially, he was still alive when he arrived in hospital , at least untill 14:26. So no doubt he was still alive at least untill then.
Concerning the supposed statements of the paramedics that they believed he was already dead when they arrived at the scene and so on, to my knowledge that was only mentioned in tabloids, so not trustworthy. A lot of contradictions concerning this case are caused by the tabloids, and people tend to forget where (false) information originated from.

Another thing, UCLA is specialised in reviving patients. So if there is ANY place that could have saved him, they could. This is the point in time where I have had my doubts about since day one: DID they survive him or not? And if they did, then what?
I have always considered official protection an option, however the detailedness of the full autopsy report and the trial are hard to fit into that picture.

Yet another thing, people have focussed a lot on the helicopter transport: did he sit up or not, etc., endlessly analysing videoclips. It would not be too hard to get him out of there unseen in another way. Dressed in a hospital gown, in a bed, possibly with all sorts of tubes attached or by putting a sheet over his face it would not have been too hard for nurses to drive him unrecognisable elsewhere in the hospital. There has also been mentioning of the firealarm in the hospital going off at the same time which could have served as a distraction. Hospitals are huge with many hallways, elevators, basements, areas where only personnel have access to and so on. Many, many ways to get out of there unseen with everybody focussing on the helicopter.
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Re: LAFD says they stabilized Michael

  • on: February 17, 2010, 09:04:04 AM
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Yet another thing, people have focussed a lot on the helicopter transport: did he sit up or not, etc., endlessly analysing videoclips. It would not be too hard to get him out of there unseen in another way. Dressed in a hospital gown, in a bed, possibly with all sorts of tubes attached or by putting a sheet over his face it would not have been too hard for nurses to drive him unrecognisable elsewhere in the hospital. There has also been mentioning of the firealarm in the hospital going off at the same time which could have served as a distraction. Hospitals are huge with many hallways, elevators, basements, areas where only personnel have access to and so on. Many, many ways to get out of there unseen with everybody focussing on the helicopter.

I agree! It was probably a distraction, but I cant be sure!
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