Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:46:42 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

But yet all the media was outside the courthouse filming that day...
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:47:11 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

Then he would have to have had make-up on for it to be recorded - as in recording a TV show.
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:49:40 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

But yet all the media was outside the courthouse filming that day...

Who is saying they didn't drink coffee or had a complete different hearing that day?
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:52:19 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

But yet all the media was outside the courthouse filming that day...

Who is saying they didn't drink coffee or had a complete different hearing that day?

True...but didnt we see the family going inside? And werent some TINI people there too?
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:54:01 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

But yet all the media was outside the courthouse filming that day...

Who is saying they didn't drink coffee or had a complete different hearing that day?

True...but didnt we see the family going inside? And werent some TINI people there too?

Maybe the Jacksons like coffee as well, or they had tea, I don't know.

The TINI's were only outside, so they don't know what happened inside the court house.
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:55:01 PM
WOW :shock:  :shock:  :shock: ...this is crazy...i really don't know what to make of it  :?  :?  :?
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:56:47 PM
Weeeeell, TMZ were the only Paps allowed inside - lights, camera, action - HOAX
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:58:29 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

I also think it's shopped, but I don´t know if he's smooth or scarred in reality?? Do we have any picture of him for comparison?

And if it was shopped, why didn´t they do it properly but left some parts?? Just to confuse us and keep us coming to their side?  
Or is it another clue from them to us not to rely on them, which would certainly feed our interest and keep us coming to their side but also proove the hoax??
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 02:59:15 PM
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Weeeeell, TMZ were the only Paps allowed inside - lights, camera, action - HOAX


i find that in itself to be rather fishy!!! are we sure they were THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED IN??
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:01:18 PM
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This has nothing to do with lighting/camera angle. One moment the skin is shopped, other moments it's not. Means it was prerecorded and not live.

But yet all the media was outside the courthouse filming that day...

Who is saying they didn't drink coffee or had a complete different hearing that day?

True...but didnt we see the family going inside? And werent some TINI people there too?

Maybe the Jacksons like coffee as well, or they had tea, I don't know.

The TINI's were only outside, so they don't know what happened inside the court house.

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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:02:07 PM
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Weeeeell, TMZ were the only Paps allowed inside - lights, camera, action - HOAX


i find that in itself to be rather fishy!!! are we sure they were THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED IN??

Yes they were and they filmed the proceedings.
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:19:02 PM
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Weeeeell, TMZ were the only Paps allowed inside - lights, camera, action - HOAX


i find that in itself to be rather fishy!!! are we sure they were THE ONLY ONES ALLOWED IN??

Yes they were and they filmed the proceedings.

And the funny thing is that we are always watching livestreams with crap quality, and inside the courtroom they have a HD camera....hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:19:25 PM
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Please help! I think I´m going crazy! I can´t trust my eyes!!  :o  :o

I just watched the TMZ - Livestream of Murray Court again and saw this:

[attachment=1:2fddmi55]judge with dark blotch on his face.jpg[/attachment:2fddmi55][attachment=0:2fddmi55]judge with smooth skin.jpg[/attachment:2fddmi55]

It happens several times, you see dark blotch and scars appear and disappear without any reason (no change in camera position or light).

Again on 4:47-4:50, 5:10-5:14, 6:00-6:03

Is this just my perception or do you guys think that somebody is playing with us, too?

For me it seems to be manipilated pictures, reminding me of Dave Daves eyes merging into Michael eyes on LKL-interview.

Or maybe am I a bit out of control and this man has just some skin problems that are covered by make-up and appear at certain positions of his head??
On both my PC's I see the judge with only smooth skin. It probably has to do something with your PC, maybe the graphics card or the screen. I especially double-checked the timeframes you mention, but it's all smooth at my PC's.
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:20:51 PM
Remember the red ears of all folks.
It must have been really hot in there.   ;)
The judge had the ventilator running.
Usually indoor rooms without any window have an air conditioning by definition.
However the red ears indicate a temperature of min. 30°C / 86°Fahrenheit when in winter in L.A. outside temp usually is nice about 25°C / 77 ° Fahrenheit.
So there must have been studio spots.
And there must have been a lot of sweat on the faces - which we did not see.
So - make-up.

I wonder where Karen Faye was that day. Only in front to distract or inside to do a job.
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:26:27 PM
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Please help! I think I´m going crazy! I can´t trust my eyes!!  :o  :o

I just watched the TMZ - Livestream of Murray Court again and saw this:

[attachment=1:2op4jzv9]judge with dark blotch on his face.jpg[/attachment:2op4jzv9][attachment=0:2op4jzv9]judge with smooth skin.jpg[/attachment:2op4jzv9]

It happens several times, you see dark blotch and scars appear and disappear without any reason (no change in camera position or light).

Again on 4:47-4:50, 5:10-5:14, 6:00-6:03

Is this just my perception or do you guys think that somebody is playing with us, too?

For me it seems to be manipilated pictures, reminding me of Dave Daves eyes merging into Michael eyes on LKL-interview.

Or maybe am I a bit out of control and this man has just some skin problems that are covered by make-up and appear at certain positions of his head??
On both my PC's I see the judge with only smooth skin. I especially double-checked the timeframes you mention, but it's all smooth at my PC's. It probably has to do something with your PC, maybe the graphics card or the screen.

??? My graphics card?? So I need to return my brandnew Eee PC?? Oh no! :lol:  :lol:

Here is the link to youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQB7-Bv-C0&feature=related

Maybe we don´t see the same video??  Or the manipulation is only done by the one who posted the video on youtube?
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:32:31 PM
It appears to be only on the youtube vid. I watched it on TMZ and there’s no change on that version.
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:33:52 PM
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Please help! I think I´m going crazy! I can´t trust my eyes!!  :o  :o

I just watched the TMZ - Livestream of Murray Court again and saw this:

[attachment=1:239qdrax]judge with dark blotch on his face.jpg[/attachment:239qdrax][attachment=0:239qdrax]judge with smooth skin.jpg[/attachment:239qdrax]

It happens several times, you see dark blotch and scars appear and disappear without any reason (no change in camera position or light).

Again on 4:47-4:50, 5:10-5:14, 6:00-6:03

Is this just my perception or do you guys think that somebody is playing with us, too?

For me it seems to be manipilated pictures, reminding me of Dave Daves eyes merging into Michael eyes on LKL-interview.

Or maybe am I a bit out of control and this man has just some skin problems that are covered by make-up and appear at certain positions of his head??
On both my PC's I see the judge with only smooth skin. I especially double-checked the timeframes you mention, but it's all smooth at my PC's. It probably has to do something with your PC, maybe the graphics card or the screen.

??? My graphics card?? So I need to return my brandnew Eee PC?? Oh no! :lol:  :lol:

Here is the link to youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQB7-Bv-C0&feature=related

Maybe we don´t see the same video??  Or the manipulation is only done by the one who posted the video on youtube?
I watched the original on TMZ itself, as you did not provide a link  ;)  
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... 455079d9ef

Scrolling up what was posted in this thread goes to show what sort of farfetched conclusions some people draw from just a bad quality video
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:41:57 PM
Now I see that it's just the youtube video.
 :(
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 03:57:08 PM
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Please help! I think I´m going crazy! I can´t trust my eyes!!  :o  :o

I just watched the TMZ - Livestream of Murray Court again and saw this:

[attachment=1:2vg1d39d]judge with dark blotch on his face.jpg[/attachment:2vg1d39d][attachment=0:2vg1d39d]judge with smooth skin.jpg[/attachment:2vg1d39d]

It happens several times, you see dark blotch and scars appear and disappear without any reason (no change in camera position or light).

Again on 4:47-4:50, 5:10-5:14, 6:00-6:03

Is this just my perception or do you guys think that somebody is playing with us, too?

For me it seems to be manipilated pictures, reminding me of Dave Daves eyes merging into Michael eyes on LKL-interview.

Or maybe am I a bit out of control and this man has just some skin problems that are covered by make-up and appear at certain positions of his head??
On both my PC's I see the judge with only smooth skin. I especially double-checked the timeframes you mention, but it's all smooth at my PC's. It probably has to do something with your PC, maybe the graphics card or the screen.

??? My graphics card?? So I need to return my brandnew Eee PC?? Oh no! :lol:  :lol:

Here is the link to youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQB7-Bv-C0&feature=related

Maybe we don´t see the same video??  Or the manipulation is only done by the one who posted the video on youtube?
I watched the original on TMZ itself, as you did not provide a link  ;)  
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... 455079d9ef

Scrolling up what was posted in this thread goes to show what sort of farfetched conclusions some people draw from just a bad quality video

Sorry for not providing the link. :oops:  But you did have the headline of the youtube video for searching this particular one.

So I watched it on TMZ now and you are right, it doesn´t appear on their footage.
So we don´t blame it on TMZ, but on the bad quality of the youtube vid?

--> Really? You think this effect is a matter of quality? I don´t want to offend anyone and I'm happy that we can debunk the blotches because they were not nice for our dear judge  :lol:  but quality???  

 :roll:
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 04:07:40 PM
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Please help! I think I´m going crazy! I can´t trust my eyes!!  :o  :o

I just watched the TMZ - Livestream of Murray Court again and saw this:

[attachment=1:1kxy7eax]judge with dark blotch on his face.jpg[/attachment:1kxy7eax][attachment=0:1kxy7eax]judge with smooth skin.jpg[/attachment:1kxy7eax]

It happens several times, you see dark blotch and scars appear and disappear without any reason (no change in camera position or light).

Again on 4:47-4:50, 5:10-5:14, 6:00-6:03

Is this just my perception or do you guys think that somebody is playing with us, too?

For me it seems to be manipilated pictures, reminding me of Dave Daves eyes merging into Michael eyes on LKL-interview.

Or maybe am I a bit out of control and this man has just some skin problems that are covered by make-up and appear at certain positions of his head??
On both my PC's I see the judge with only smooth skin. I especially double-checked the timeframes you mention, but it's all smooth at my PC's. It probably has to do something with your PC, maybe the graphics card or the screen.

??? My graphics card?? So I need to return my brandnew Eee PC?? Oh no! :lol:  :lol:

Here is the link to youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQB7-Bv-C0&feature=related

Maybe we don´t see the same video??  Or the manipulation is only done by the one who posted the video on youtube?
I watched the original on TMZ itself, as you did not provide a link  ;)  
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... 455079d9ef

Scrolling up what was posted in this thread goes to show what sort of farfetched conclusions some people draw from just a bad quality video

Sorry for not providing the link. :oops:  But you did have the headline of the youtube video for searching this particular one.

So I watched it on TMZ now and you are right, it doesn´t appear on their footage.
So we don´t blame it on TMZ, but on the bad quality of the youtube vid?

--> Really? You think this effect is a matter of quality? I don´t want to offend anyone and I'm happy that we can debunk the blotches because they were not nice for our dear judge  :lol:  but quality???  

 :roll:
Yes, bad quality, some sort of digital distortion. What else would you call it?
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 04:13:47 PM
Honestly,I thoght it was just the bad quality of the filming..
anyway..you are right...all that trial seemed so NOT PROFESSIONAL!!! Before the thread about the yellow car toy,I had noticed and I told myself:There must be Michael in it!
Anyway..I tried to investigate on the judge name,but have not found anything yet...
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 04:18:01 PM
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Please help! I think I´m going crazy! I can´t trust my eyes!!  :o  :o

I just watched the TMZ - Livestream of Murray Court again and saw this:

[attachment=1:24ec6l23]judge with dark blotch on his face.jpg[/attachment:24ec6l23][attachment=0:24ec6l23]judge with smooth skin.jpg[/attachment:24ec6l23]

It happens several times, you see dark blotch and scars appear and disappear without any reason (no change in camera position or light).

Again on 4:47-4:50, 5:10-5:14, 6:00-6:03

Is this just my perception or do you guys think that somebody is playing with us, too?

For me it seems to be manipilated pictures, reminding me of Dave Daves eyes merging into Michael eyes on LKL-interview.

Or maybe am I a bit out of control and this man has just some skin problems that are covered by make-up and appear at certain positions of his head??
On both my PC's I see the judge with only smooth skin. I especially double-checked the timeframes you mention, but it's all smooth at my PC's. It probably has to do something with your PC, maybe the graphics card or the screen.

??? My graphics card?? So I need to return my brandnew Eee PC?? Oh no! :lol:  :lol:

Here is the link to youtube:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5JQB7-Bv-C0&feature=related

Maybe we don´t see the same video??  Or the manipulation is only done by the one who posted the video on youtube?
I watched the original on TMZ itself, as you did not provide a link  ;)  
http://www.tmz.com/videos?autoplay=true ... 455079d9ef

Scrolling up what was posted in this thread goes to show what sort of farfetched conclusions some people draw from just a bad quality video

Sorry for not providing the link. :oops:  But you did have the headline of the youtube video for searching this particular one.

So I watched it on TMZ now and you are right, it doesn´t appear on their footage.
So we don´t blame it on TMZ, but on the bad quality of the youtube vid?

--> Really? You think this effect is a matter of quality? I don´t want to offend anyone and I'm happy that we can debunk the blotches because they were not nice for our dear judge  :lol:  but quality???  

 :roll:
Yes, bad quality, some sort of digital distortion. What else would you call it?

no nothing else..., better not.

Maybe we should suggest a new title for the vid on Youtube:

NEW  and BAD -Conrad Murray in Court! Part2 TMZ Livestream!

 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:

But thank you guys for investigating this with me!
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 04:53:58 PM
Well.... I noticed that too.... but I didn´t want to give it credit.... because I´ve seen a lot of videos on youtube about reptilian people??? did you see those?? it´s the same effect... (someone put one up here)

I´m not sure what is it.... but I´m sure is a technical thing.... maybe not on purpose... but when you convert it from one format to another for example to uploaded to youtube....

Or maybe a way to make us watch some information about it... who knows.....

Anyway for those who are learning about illuminatis would love to learn something about reptilians.... I´m a little skeptical about that....but.....  I do believe in pleiadians..... so.... at least this is interesting....

It is quite something to absorb from our conditioned version of reality. But, then, that is the very point. If you want to keep something from the people, give them a version of reality and possibility that is so far from what is really going on that even if the truth comes to light it will seem far too ludicrous and extreme for most people to believe it.

Indeed, if you do your job well enough, the people will laugh at the truth, call it insane, and ridicule anyone who promotes it.


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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 05:06:45 PM
That's soo weird :geek:
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Re: Optical illusion? Look at the judge!!

  • on: February 17, 2010, 05:08:50 PM
REPTILLIANS?????

Some people in here seem to have lost total touch with reality. You really need to have a talk with your general physician, these are truly worrying thoughts.
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