New optical illusion: Open casket on DaveDave-CNN footage??

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Offline mjjveritas

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friendlikeme81, "The Phantom Of The Opera" was mentioned by another poster "2good2btrue" recently. 2good2btrue said that MJ had approached Andrew Lloyd Webber about a part in his production? There is a link between your friend "Nosferatu" and the Phantom. http://http://www.amazon.com/Nosferatu-Phantom-Opera-Alexander-Granach/dp/B00006L7WV.
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I have found some other links from Nosferatu to Michael (although I still don`t claim to see Orlok on the arcade  :lol: )

same position on all three pictures
[attachment=0:33mb64z3]Orlok_Nuez Wicked Witch_Crowley.JPG[/attachment:33mb64z3]
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I cant avoid laughing with this kind of post...well, what I see, with a great effort of imagination LOL, is a man with white hair and beard...no hat, no open casket  :?
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I always wondered what this strap that covers the legs could be:[attachment=2:3imwk060]phantom_colour_strap.JPG[/attachment:3imwk060]

I have found out about living dead dolls. They are sold with a strap like this (on the right one). [attachment=1:3imwk060]living_dead_dolls.JPG[/attachment:3imwk060]

And we find Nosferatu as a doll, too
see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQYBczvRtS8
:lol:  :lol:

following the living dead dolls, we come to a horror movie[attachment=0:3imwk060]PUPPET MASTER.jpg[/attachment:3imwk060]

You see its name: The Puppet Master :!:

Have I already mentioned that I like this game ?  :lol:  :lol:
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Update:

Today while skimming through the Todd Gray Album (Before he was King) I' ve found the proof that the game device we are speaking about was indeed in possession of Michael Jackson. See page 127/128.
The arcade game is this one (flyer): [attachment=1:3bcxw98q]monaco_gp.jpg[/attachment:3bcxw98q]

Now I made a comparison of the three pictures:[attachment=0:3bcxw98q]comparison surfaces.jpg[/attachment:3bcxw98q]
Conclusions:
1.Contrary to my former argument there is indeed a reflecting and transparent surface on the front where we see the phantom. But it is definetely no screen.
2. If we suppose the figure to be a reflection, the origin of the reflection would still not be explained (it must be opposite, somewhere in the open space??).
3. The surface is transparent. If we suppose the figure to be a person shining through the surface, it would be difficult to explain why it appears to be full body view of a male person on this position. We should see a part of a body, but no full body.
2. There is a stripe of letters on the surface. We see the words "Sega Monaco GP". This would explain why we see the yellow stripe on the phantom pic (although we should see it more clearly, I suppose). But the stripe of letters is permanent. So we should see it on 1:05, even if the angle is slightly different. Therefore the black hole on 1:05 still exists and cannot be explained.

IMO there is still no logical explanation for the emergence of the figure.

This opens the space for the next speculations: ;)

Here I go: The puppet master has placed the phantom figure deliberately on the arcade game to signalize that it is indeed a hoax: Michael is the puppet master behind the curtain (Final Curtain Call on O2, Liberian Girl on Funeral). He shows that he is the director by placing puppets, clues or appearing in disguises.

But Michael also appears as a puppet in the game: He is "the living dead".

like in Threatened:
"I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your head...

...The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark]
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear

A monster, the worst thing to fear."

Really interesting is the fact that DaveDave said the meeting with Michael happened in Neverland. This was a lie.
So we have indeed a monster that appears on Never Neverland (because it's Encino and could never be Neverland).

Mmhh... :shock:
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OK....I'm scared  :?
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Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
Update:

Today while skimming through the Todd Gray Album (Before he was King) I' ve found the proof that the game device we are speaking about was indeed in possession of Michael Jackson. See page 127/128.
The arcade game is this one (flyer): [attachment=1:1bcoe6zt]monaco_gp.jpg[/attachment:1bcoe6zt]

Now I made a comparison of the three pictures:[attachment=0:1bcoe6zt]comparison surfaces.jpg[/attachment:1bcoe6zt]
Conclusions:
1.Contrary to my former argument there is indeed a reflecting and transparent surface on the front where we see the phantom. But it is definetely no screen.
2. If we suppose the figure to be a reflection, the origin of the reflection would still not be explained (it must be opposite, somewhere in the open space??).
3. The surface is transparent. If we suppose the figure to be a person shining through the surface, it would be difficult to explain why it appears to be full body view of a male person on this position. We should see a part of a body, but no full body.
2. There is a stripe of letters on the surface. We see the words "Sega Monaco GP". This would explain why we see the yellow stripe on the phantom pic (although we should see it more clearly, I suppose). But the stripe of letters is permanent. So we should see it on 1:05, even if the angle is slightly different. Therefore the black hole on 1:05 still exists and cannot be explained.

IMO there is still no logical explanation for the emergence of the figure.

This opens the space for the next speculations: ;)

Here I go: The puppet master has placed the phantom figure deliberately on the arcade game to signalize that it is indeed a hoax: Michael is the puppet master behind the curtain (Final Curtain Call on O2, Liberian Girl on Funeral). He shows that he is the director by placing puppets, clues or appearing in disguises.

But Michael also appears as a puppet in the game: He is "the living dead".

like in Threatened:
"I’m the living dead, the dark thoughts in your head...

...The unknown monster is about to embark
From a far corner, out of the dark]
A nightmare, that’s the case
Never Neverland, that’s the place
This particular monster can read minds
Be in two places at the same time
This is judgement night, execution, slaughter
The devil, ghosts, this monster is torture
You can be sure of one thing, that’s fate
A human presence that you feel is strange
A monster that you can see disappear

A monster, the worst thing to fear."

Really interesting is the fact that DaveDave said the meeting with Michael happened in Neverland. This was a lie.
So we have indeed a monster that appears on Never Neverland (because it's Encino and could never be Neverland).

Mmhh... :shock:
Good research and Analysis!!! :D
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The image within the arcade highlighted box could be? http://http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2009-11-29T11%3A53%3A00-08%3A00&max-results=50. The photo I am referring to is the one of Dave Dave standing, wearing a hat. Transpose this image and it maybe fits the image in the arcade? Credit and thanks to SeeingClues Blog. You can see the picture underneath the heading "Arms-B & B Dave and MJ". It's quite a bit down the page. Might be worth it though.  :)
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[attachment=0:3mf227t7]arms.jpg[/attachment:3mf227t7]

@mjjveritas: Interesting, but I don't think it matches. The hat isn't that big and we don't see a part of his belly  :lol:

But I'm always staring fascinated at this picture, don't know why... :lol:

I think the phantom of Never Neverland is a mixture of
1. burn victim
2. Nosferatu (Orlok)
3. Mummy
4. Fantomas
5. Bat Boy
6. Roswell Alien
+ suit of memorial

It's nothing we can really identify, so it's even more scary.
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friendlikeme81, What an imagination you have! Who are "Fantomas" and "Bat Boy"? The only "Bat Boy" I know of is "Ugly Bat Boy". http://http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=ugly+bat+boy&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=. This beautiful cat is my Desktop Wallpaper.  :)
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friendlikeme81, What an imagination you have! Who are "Fantomas" and "Bat Boy"? The only "Bat Boy" I know of is "Ugly Bat Boy". http://http://images.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=hp&q=ugly+bat+boy&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=. This beautiful cat is my Desktop Wallpaper.  :)

Oh, yes, nice wallpaper, beauty lies in the eyes of the beholder, I think... :lol:  :lol:

That Bat Boy is an interesting toppic. see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bat_Boy_%28character%29

"Adventures of Batboy

Cartoonist Peter Bagge originally penned the "Adventures of Batboy" for the Weekly World News. According to the cartoon, Bat Boy is currently hitchhiking with a typical American family after resigning from being the President of the United States (and King), has placed Weekly World News columnist Ed Anger under arrest and saying goodbyes to Beyoncé Knowles, a half sasquatch (with whom he was romantically involved), and Dr. Ron. According to past issues of WWN, Bat Boy has joined a death metal/thrash metal band as their lead singer."

It seems that Bat Boy finally went into music business... :lol:
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friendlikeme81, Thrash metal/Death metal cannot be considered music, more along the lines of "noise" in my opinion. So Bat Boy didn't go into the "music business". We have another hoax on our hands.  ;)
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friendlikeme81, Thrash metal/Death metal cannot be considered music, more along the lines of "noise" in my opinion. So Bat Boy didn't go into the "music business". We have another hoax on our hands.  ;)

Oh no, mjjveritas, don't discourage me like that!  :lol:  ;)  
By the way, what's your problem with trash metal? You don't know my cell phone ring tone yet...    :lol:
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friendlikeme81, Ha ha, You said it yourself, TRASH not THRASH!  :lol:  ;)
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friendlikeme81, Ha ha, You said it yourself, TRASH not THRASH!  :lol:  ;)

 :lol:  :lol:
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Quote from: "friendlikeme81"
http://seeingclues.blogspot.com/search/label/mummy

Interesting!
yep, read that ;) so... Who's Your Mummy?  :lol:
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credits@seeingclues
[attachment=0:2q27kesv]wrappedtight.jpg[/attachment:2q27kesv]

After emerging from the spider we see Michael's transformation into a living dead (Thriller dance). Then standing in Will You Be There - position (arms spread+angels choire). From above mummies are gliding down from heaven like angels. Then Threatened starts, dancing again.

It's a simple metaphor. He really wants us to understand. ;)
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[attachment=0:2r3uh8wl]somebody`s watching me.jpg[/attachment:2r3uh8wl]
credits@mikewell
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[attachment=0:3jmc9i3e]somebody`s watching me.jpg[/attachment:3jmc9i3e]
credits@mikewell
???
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???

Sorry for not explaining ;)
mikewell is a mixture of Michael and Rockwell. I invented this name because I think Michael has a big part in a) the phantom figure on the arcade and b) the lyrics of "Somebody's watching me" and the design of the music video

see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY  

There are several shots in the vid in which we can see scary figures either as a reflection respectively standing in plain sight, just like the phantom figure on the arcade picture.[attachment=0:ljf5ufsk]screenshot Somebody`s watching me.JPG[/attachment:ljf5ufsk]
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Quote from: "Jacksonology"
???

Sorry for not explaining ;)
mikewell is a mixture of Michael and Rockwell. I invented this name because I think Michael has a big part in a) the phantom figure on the arcade and b) the lyrics of "Somebody's watching me" and the design of the music video

see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YvAYIJSSZY  

There are several shots in the vid in which we can see scary figures either as a reflection respectively standing in plain sight, just like the phantom figure on the arcade picture.[attachment=0:1sb08wfl]screenshot Somebody`s watching me.JPG[/attachment:1sb08wfl]
Oh, gotcha 8-)
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Maybe it's a doll or manequin or something???
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Maybe it's a doll or manequin or something???

Yes, I thought of that, too. Could be something like that.
But I'm quite sure that it did not occur as an object in the real scenery but was added later to the picture.
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Allow me to make my case.
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