If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

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Offline Cre8tive1der

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If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:00:09 PM
Hi all, newbie here who posted this in some of the comments sections of the hoax vids on youtube, but haven't gotten replies.  Since finding this site earlier today and looking to see if this has been addressed, I thought I'd register and ask you what you think.

If someone has the DVD pls do me a favor. Pause it at 45:33 where there are two images of MJ and take a look at the ears. No way is that the same person. The ears are too big on the image to the left and they're not even positioned the same on the head. The image on the right shows the back of the ear as being vertical to the jawline.  The image on the left shows the back of the ear as being almost horizontal to the jawline.  Also the structure of the ears look different and so does the shape of the head and forehead.  Big eared MJ seems to be wearing sunglasses.  Wonder why.

Can anyone with the DVD pls tell me I'm not imagining this?
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:06:23 PM
His ears have kept me faithful from the start. I know it sounds funny but, the ears he had leaving his last appointment with Arnie Klein were to pointy, then 6/24 the were fully rounded. I need to buy the dvd. They have it at redbox though lol.
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:07:38 PM
Quote from: "Cre8tive1der"
Hi all, newbie here who posted this in some of the comments sections of the hoax vids on youtube, but haven't gotten replies.  Since finding this site earlier today and looking to see if this has been addressed, I thought I'd register and ask you what you think.

If someone has the DVD pls do me a favor. Pause it at 45:33 where there are two images of MJ and take a look at the ears. No way is that the same person. The ears are too big on the image to the left and they're not even positioned the same on the head. The image on the right shows the back of the ear as being vertical to the jawline.  The image on the left shows the back of the ear as being almost horizontal to the jawline.  Also the structure of the ears look different and so does the shape of the head and forehead.  Big eared MJ seems to be wearing sunglasses.  Wonder why.

Can anyone with the DVD pls tell me I'm not imagining this?

do you mean this?
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:16:35 PM
The difference is because of the earpiece, which seems huge to me. It's Michael!
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:27:29 PM
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Quote from: "Cre8tive1der"
Hi all, newbie here who posted this in some of the comments sections of the hoax vids on youtube, but haven't gotten replies.  Since finding this site earlier today and looking to see if this has been addressed, I thought I'd register and ask you what you think.

If someone has the DVD pls do me a favor. Pause it at 45:33 where there are two images of MJ and take a look at the ears. No way is that the same person. The ears are too big on the image to the left and they're not even positioned the same on the head. The image on the right shows the back of the ear as being vertical to the jawline.  The image on the left shows the back of the ear as being almost horizontal to the jawline.  Also the structure of the ears look different and so does the shape of the head and forehead.  Big eared MJ seems to be wearing sunglasses.  Wonder why.

Can anyone with the DVD pls tell me I'm not imagining this?

do you mean this?
viewtopic.php?f=17&t=5812


COULD SOMEONE POST THE PICTURES?   Ive been on that thread and the pics dont work for me..  i cant scroll across.
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:32:08 PM
The earpiece may explain what appears to be a difference in the actual ear, but the size and angle?  I'm not sure.

Here's a bad video of it on youtube - the sound is off - but if you pause it at the 50 second mark you can kind of see both images:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nrzTMc8OHx0

I remember the first time I saw the movie there were parts where I thought, "Whoa!  I never realized his ears were so big!"  They weren't.....
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 03:38:51 PM
It's clearer here.  Make the video large and pause it at 3:17.

Odd that the images face the opposite direction in this version, no???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PijZXw-lo
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 05:28:15 PM
The earpiece can distort the ear often, also when there's a microphone attached there is a round black clip that needs to be wrapped around the ear to attach it which can curl up the ear. It's hard to compare pictures I think keeping that in mind, as well as different angles and strokes of hair partially covering up the ear.
The "pointy ear" when leaving the clinic is an example of that: it's hard to tell if that is really his ear. Part of the mask ribbon is wrapped around his ear, is it curling it up as well; there is a stroke of hair that seems to be a fold in the ear but isnt; he is bending forwards so the angle is different etc etc.

Yes they use stunt doubles in movies, he did as well, for instance in Smooth Criminal of TII. In the end, it is not really relevant in the hoax. He might have used a double, he might not have. You can not proof that by pointing out past doubles.
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 05:38:45 PM
Quote from: "Cre8tive1der"
It's clearer here.  Make the video large and pause it at 3:17.

Odd that the images face the opposite direction in this version, no???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2PijZXw-lo

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WATCHING THIS RIPS MY HEART OUT.,

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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
is this the "real" mj and not a impersonator must know :S

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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 05:50:31 PM
It's Michael.
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:55:55 PM
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is this the "real" mj and not a impersonator must know :S

Look at his nails. They look too healthy.
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 07:08:37 PM
It is an illusion because of the glasses - they have lowered a bit upon his nose that's why the ears seem at odd place....  :D
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 20, 2010, 07:30:50 PM
LOL - some of you are funnnnneeeee!!!  

You guys might be right about it being nothing more than the earpieces.  I'll have to watch the dvd in other parts to feel confident about that though.

In the meantime, thank you all for your help and replies and God bless.
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 21, 2010, 01:02:19 AM
The damaged rt ear is Michael. A plastic surgeon took cartlage from his ear to repair his nose. I remember when it happened. So the Dr. office pic is Michael. I also believe it is his real hair as well, but then that one is just my opinion. :D

http://www.celebrityplasticpics.com/jac ... urgery.htm

The last news about Michael Jackson’s nose was that he finally found a German surgeon who agreed to repair his nose. The doctor took cartilage from the singer's ear to place inside his nose - after Jackson's face was "beginning to deteriorate" due to years of alleged extensive rhinoplasty. The nose of Michael Jackson is now fine but the surgeon said it was close to collapsing following twenty years of plastic operations
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 21, 2010, 01:15:22 AM
guys, I hate to say it.  His ears looked so big for two reasons...one because he lost so much weight and 2 because as we age,(Mike was 50!) our ears don't stop growing...hence all those old men (I'm talking about the real old men, the 80 year olds) walking around with gigantic ears and dragging earlobes...sorry MJ...your ears were not too big, they just looked that way because you got too thin to carry them off!  (plus maybe they got a tiny bit bigger because you were well seasoned, but we wouldn't have noticed if you had just kept some weight on you!)
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Re: If you have the TII DVD, pls check this out

  • on: February 21, 2010, 02:45:09 PM
fact navi was asked to do long shots on the tii movie but refused fact e,casanova did do long shots for who is it so point is impersonators have been used in the past and im dam sure it wasnt michael on the 3d pic of smooth criminal that came with the dvd
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