Proof there were two MJ's...

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Offline MJgirlNY

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Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:30:11 PM
[youtube:im8jvmck]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIlJHctKgJQ&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:im8jvmck]

Watch this!!! :o  :shock:
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:45:25 PM
There seems to be something double with one of the children as well. Watch the feathers of the mask. Seems like a mirror.
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:47:00 PM
I think we talked about that a few months ago somebody might be able to point you to that post but yes there were two mj s there i think we all agreed on that I expect ! was a decoy so he could do a bit of shopping
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:48:53 PM
WOW!!  Always knew he used doubles but its kinda wierd they would be together in public
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:49:49 PM
Well.. Both these two could be imposters. Or one is Dr. Klein :lol: And the one to the left is Michael.
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 06:50:25 PM
It's a mirror, prince is there double as well and they move identically, watch the feathers.

Complete and sharper video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15uh4
Even the mannequin on the left is visible in the mirror in the beginning, it's placed skewed in the corner.


The use of doubles in movies is a fact, but it really does not proof anything to the hoax. So I don't really see the point in posting all of these sort of confusing pictures or videos and analysing the crap out of them.
What would it proof? That MJ at one point possibly used a double? Which can't be proven 100%? And if he did, so what?
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 07:05:32 PM
We will always argue about that - it's a never ending story.
To me it's clearly a mirror in an unexpected angle.
You can see the edges of the mirror panels, as well as the words "LOS ANGELES" above the door that are written ON the mirror.

Here you can see the edge of the mirror going straight through the blonde woman's head:
[attachment=0:m347r1vd]mirror.jpg[/attachment:m347r1vd]
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 20, 2010, 08:20:33 PM
Guys it's really a mirror.  ;)

Or everybody there would have his/her own double, NOT  :lol:
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 21, 2010, 04:59:45 AM
Quote from: "Dancing_Machine"
Guys it's really a mirror.  ;)

Or everybody there would have his/her own double, NOT  :lol:

 :lol:
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 02:03:16 AM
Mirrors, mirrors, mirrors. Did I say mirrors?  ;)

Here is a link to a video shot that same day, but from a different angle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzcIOZge ... re=related

Go to 1:08 and pause it. MJ is standing in the same spot of where there are supposedly 2 MJ's. You can can see there is a mirror behind him and the fan he is posing for a pic with (which you can also see in the full video of this shopping trip here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZJ_fA15uh4). You can see the reflection of the fan's red jacket. You can also see the reflection of the fire extinguisher; and you can also see a reflection of the windows of the front of the store, showing that there is clearly a mirror where MJ #2 is supposed to be only seconds before MJ posed for this pic with the fan.

It simply is a case of mirrors and angles of view. It's the ANGLE of the mirror. The mirror is at an angle, and MJ is standing farther back than the others when his "double" appears, which is why you can't see the other people. The video link I posted shows the same scene from a different angle and you can see that it's mirrors. And watch on that right side where the "double" is supposed to be. You can see the feathers from the top of Prince's mask reflecting there too, in the original video.

And there was a swarm of paparazzi that day. Watch the full videos and you will see how many paps and fans were there. I truly think if there had been 2 MJ's walking in Ed Hardy that day, someone would have noticed and it would have at the very least hit the tabloids. And I just don't understand at all why he would need a double to go shopping with him, and have that double be side-by-side with him the whole time. It's just not logical to me.

You can see the mirrors in these photos too:

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/039.jpg

http://mjjgallery.free.fr/2009/various/edhardy/048.jpg
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 02:10:53 AM
Yeah. Problem.

Both MJs are to the left of that mirror.

LOOK.

SEE.
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 02:12:21 AM
So unless it's a hologram projecting mirror...

2 MJs. 100%.
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 02:15:12 AM
Yepp.
I definitely saw two of 'em.
And if you listen to some of the paparazzi talking, you can tell something weird was going on.
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 02:19:34 AM
We agree to disagree. Good enough for me. Shall leave this thread now, happily.  :D  I just find it funny, the need to prove that MJ brought his "double" shopping with him to Ed Hardy's, and that not one single person, fan, store employee, or paparazzi ever noticed it or mentioned it. That was a great trick!
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 03:28:05 AM
I agree to nothing except that there were 2 MJs. I used my eyes and saw. Both are left of the mirror.

Any sociology 101 student knows that very very few people will actually react in a public situation when seeing somethingout of the norm. Especially when no one else does. The phenominon is well documented.

2 MJs. Both left of the mirror. Only one explanation.
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 03:34:55 AM
if there were 2 Michaels, there are also 2 Prince cuz i see also 2 Princes LOL!!! i think its a mirror :P
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 04:11:32 AM
just look at the still shot in the OP, mj in left hand corner is facig forward you can see his white mask face on, mj in right hand corner is facing right sideways, :ugeek:  tell me where this mirror would be if thats what we see head on...
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Re: Proof there were two MJ's...

  • on: February 22, 2010, 04:18:35 AM
I just realized...isn't that Klein's jacket that Michael is wearing? Remember this?

http://http://www.tmz.com/2010/02/20/arnie-klein-jacket-michael-jackson-designer-gianfranco-ferre-creditors-claim/

 :lol:
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