Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

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Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 13, 2010, 06:02:26 PM
Hello Guys,
I didn't see this posted on the forum. I was on the MJ conspiracy site and someone posted about the stains on Marlon Jackson's jeans that he wore on the Jimmy Kimmel show. Here's the video with the Jackson brothers (Marlon, Tito, and Jackie),
[youtube:3tgvgbzt]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qv9thFMTA3s&feature=player_embedded[/youtube:3tgvgbzt]

This is what two ppl had to say about the stains and 7's.

Yep the stain does mean something, but I don't know what it is. In the movie when Michael was wearing the pants that had the stain it involved the following songs and as a note the red shirt also had 3 7's on it versus no 7's on the songs when there were no stain on the pants.

Stain and 7's: Wanna Be Startin Something, Jam, They Don't Care About Us, Human Nature, Smooth Criminal,The Way You Make Me Feel, Jackson 5 medley, Shake Your Body, Beat It and Black or White.

No stain and no 7's: Earth Song: red shirt and no 7's (this is when he is talking about the value would be greater), Billie Jean, Man In The Mirror.

This is a whole different topic!

Can anyone tell what the stain is that is in the video? I zoomed in at 400% and still can't make it out. It has to mean something, did you see how it is always in view and never hidden?

Love you Michael!

Here is more of a break down on the songs and where the rehearsal took place:

Wanna Be Startin' Something

rehearsal at the Staple Center - 7's and the stain

Jam

rehearsal at the Staples Center - 7's and the stain

They Don't Care About Us

rehearsal at the Staples Center - 7's and the stain

Human Nature

rehearsal at the Forum - no 7's or stain
rehearsal at the Staple Centers - 7's and the stain

Smooth Criminal

rehearsal at the Staple Center - 7's and the stain

The Way You Make Me Feel

rehearsal at the Staple Center - 7's with the stain

Jackson 5 Medley

rehearsal at the Staple Center - 7s' with the stain

Shake Your Body

rehearsal at the Staple Center - 7's with the stain

Just Can't Stop Loving You

rehearsal was at the Forum - no 7's

Thriller

rehearsal was at the Forum - no 7's

Beat It

rehearsal at the Forum - no 7's
rehearsal was at the Staple Center (Silver Jacket/Cherry Picker) - 7's with the stain

Black or White

rehearsal was at the Staple Center (Silver Jacket) - 7's with stain

Earth Song

rehearsal was at the Forum - no 7's (value would be greater)

I just realized something. All of the songs with the stain were at the Staple Center and the no stain were done at the Forum. How weird is that? A light bulb just went on!! Since the rehearsals were done at the Staples from June 22nd to June 25th, 99% of what is in the movie was filmed between June 22nd and June 25th! The other songs were done over a course from June 1st through June 21st when they were at the Forum! Oh, I feel another theory coming on!

Love you Michael!

I also found out from the MJHD forum before it closed that the stain on MJ's jeans the a photo from the invincible album.  If you zoom the photo large and rotate it upside down, you will be able to see the photo.  Here's the link of the photo
http://http://entertainment.malaysia.msn.com/movies/photos/photos.aspx?cp-documentid=3645502
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 13, 2010, 06:05:45 PM
yes I can remember we all studied that mark turned it upside down and we saw the face it is strange that mj had that mark there as he is very particular about his clothes
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 13, 2010, 06:05:54 PM
so TII comprises of 3 days worth of rehearsal.  That doesnt surprise me at all.

Kenny Ortega is a liar..  i hate being down on people, but i have been having a really bad feeling about him lately.

Good work by the way.  Appreciate the investigation.  xx
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 13, 2010, 06:52:59 PM
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 13, 2010, 07:02:06 PM
Quote from: "DancingTheDream"
so TII comprises of 3 days worth of rehearsal.  That doesnt surprise me at all.

Kenny Ortega is a liar..  i hate being down on people, but i have been having a really bad feeling about him lately.

Good work by the way.  Appreciate the investigation.  xx

This also confirms what the dancer had said.  This makes me wonder why, if they had been filming all along (for Michael's library), were the best shots from the last couple of days of rehearsal? Was that when everything was coming together?
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 19, 2010, 05:38:35 PM
So when did kenny say the TII footage was taken from, from what date to when?

Also, i agree that stain is intriguing. Did MJ feel threatened and he put like a symbol on his clothing that might be picked up by fans? Maybe he realised what that rehearsal footage was going to be used for, and he put something, a sign/signal on his clothing that would be picked up if anything happened to him. Only thing is it is really hard to figure out what it is! I don't think it is Mj's face or his dad's.
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 19, 2010, 06:03:14 PM
Quote from: "techdiva"
I just realized something. All of the songs with the stain were at the Staple Center and the no stain were done at the Forum. How weird is that? A light bulb just went on!! Since the rehearsals were done at the Staples from June 22nd to June 25th, 99% of what is in the movie was filmed between June 22nd and June 25th! The other songs were done over a course from June 1st through June 21st when they were at the Forum! Oh, I feel another theory coming on!

At risk of sounding like a complete numpty, i have a couple of questions.
1)What is the 'Forum'.
2)Using TII footage as evidence, was all the TII footage filmed at the staples?
3)How do we know rehearsals were done June 22nd to June 25th at the Staples? Is that period of time the only time the Staples Centre was used for rehearsal?
4)How do we know which dates the 'Forum' was used?

I just want to have it clear in my mind. Thanks. This is an interesting topic IMO.
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Re: Michael Jackson's Jeans TII- Stains and 7's

  • on: February 19, 2010, 06:57:37 PM
Quote from: "QuirkyDiana"
Quote from: "techdiva"
I just realized something. All of the songs with the stain were at the Staple Center and the no stain were done at the Forum. How weird is that? A light bulb just went on!! Since the rehearsals were done at the Staples from June 22nd to June 25th, 99% of what is in the movie was filmed between June 22nd and June 25th! The other songs were done over a course from June 1st through June 21st when they were at the Forum! Oh, I feel another theory coming on!

At risk of sounding like a complete numpty, i have a couple of questions.
1)What is the 'Forum'.
2)Using TII footage as evidence, was all the TII footage filmed at the staples?
3)How do we know rehearsals were done June 22nd to June 25th at the Staples? Is that period of time the only time the Staples Centre was used for rehearsal?
4)How do we know which dates the 'Forum' was used?

I just want to have it clear in my mind. Thanks. This is an interesting topic IMO.

The Forum was a small theare/Arena that was used first for rehearsing with the stage.  i think the opening part of Human nature was shot there.....
well i posted a Vid in the TII section about the The Way You make me Feel rehersal, which was recorded on the 3rd or 4th of June, and TII gives the impression that the rehersal started in april.  but not all of the Footage was shot at the Staples, in TII the Seats change colour at least twice lol
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