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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 25, 2010, 08:55:59 PM
She has demonstrated herself to be a good mother figure. Despite what anyone feels about her she can be credited with raising 5 seemingly normal children. There were no stories about rebellion, drugs, or other things that fall on the kids of celebrities. Each of her children seem to be living their lives drama free and out of the glare of the tabloids.

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Plus let's not forget who is willed to care for the children if something happens to Mrs. Jackson. Michael was apparently determined that one way or another Diana Ross would be the mother of his children.
OMJ!! and poor naive me thinking it was because she was a mother figure to him!
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 25, 2010, 08:58:20 PM
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Plus let's not forget who is willed to care for the children if something happens to Mrs. Jackson. Michael was apparently determined that one way or another Diana Ross would be the mother of his children.
O_O  !  Oh yeah.. your brain is sharper than mine!
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 25, 2010, 09:34:11 PM
totally agreed.  I've always thought it was about Ms. Ross.  I even think that some of her lyrics in a few of her songs were directed at him.  She was is and always will be the diva.  That's for sure.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

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“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 25, 2010, 10:43:02 PM
I actually remember some girls making comments about this song when it came out.  They were like oooh did you guys hear that new Michael Jackson song where he's dissing Diana Ross?  So I think some people have speculated that this song might refer to Ms. Ross. I think her and MJ did have a little fling back in the day.  I even saw footage of them flirting playfully with each other.  She said I never thought you would grow up to be so sexy.  Then MJ kinda blushed and giggled.  Then he was like don't you guys think she's sexy? to the audience.  That doesn't seem like a mother son type relationship to me.  I think Diana puts some moves on him.  As far as him being 10 talking about sex I doubt that.  I think he was probably just thinking about candy at that time.  He was way too young for that.  I also saw a video on youtube where Diana Ross is performing and she sits on MJ's lap and he was loving every minute of it.  Princess Stephanie was sitting next to him and she look so pissed because I think she may have been his date for that night or something.  Anyway I wish pesonally that he would have stayed with Stephanie Mills whom he dated back in the 70's.  She was in love with him and she said she wanted to marry him.  She would even wash his clothes and cook for him back in the day.  I think they would have been so good together as a couple.
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 26, 2010, 12:24:39 PM
MKM, really good thoughts on the lyrics -- never thought about them in this fashion. Thanks for your insight.
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 26, 2010, 08:53:23 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
totally agreed.  I've always thought it was about Ms. Ross.  I even think that some of her lyrics in a few of her songs were directed at him.  She was is and always will be the diva.  That's for sure.
oooh... can you post them?  I would love to see which ones you have in mind.  I am not familiar with too many of her songs so I would love to see the ones that you think...LOL
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 26, 2010, 09:54:02 PM
Let's try this again

HERE'S ONE OF THEM.
[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=lu0IvWwTN2U&feature=related[/YouTube]
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 11:29:31 AM
Great work, MKM!

About the text in Who is it, when he asks 'Is it my brother?' he doesn't need to be talking about a sibling. Jehova's Witnesses call each other brother and sister all the time, as do a lot of black people. So 'is it my brother?' Could mean that it was someone close to him, but no per se a sibling.

I have always felt that Diana is the love of his life. The way he looks at her...wow. I would give up my arm for a man looking at me like that! And not just on one occasion, no, for years he has looked at her like that!
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 12:28:41 PM
Quote from: "hesouttamylife"
Let's try this again

HERE'S ONE OF THEM.
[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=lu0IvWwTN2U&feature=related[/YouTube]

wow what a performance that was, She has a beautiful voice. I know Michael loved her all these years, Why else would he trust her with his children?
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 12:49:11 PM
Diana Ross was soooooo beautiful in person.  Her skin was flawless.  Her concerts, wow, what can I say, amongst the best.  I can see how a young man would fall under her spell.  She had grown men crying.  Ms Ross, the Boss, was all that and a bag of chips.  If you never saw her in concert you missed an amazing,  enchanting experience.  Just like Michael, she gave you more than your money's worth.  Very, very talented and strong and sure of herself.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

*

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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 12:56:13 PM
I wan't sure I believed it when I read he lost his virginity to her or 'she made a man of him', etc.  ISo much has been made of LMP being his first lover.
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I'M A LOVER, NOT A FIGHTER

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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:04:06 PM
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Great work, MKM!

About the text in Who is it, when he asks 'Is it my brother?' he doesn't need to be talking about a sibling. Jehova's Witnesses call each other brother and sister all the time, as do a lot of black people. So 'is it my brother?' Could mean that it was someone close to him, but no per se a sibling.

I have always felt that Diana is the love of his life. The way he looks at her...wow. I would give up my arm for a man looking at me like that! And not just on one occasion, no, for years he has looked at her like that!
thanks for clarifying the brother thing, I thought of that possibility as well but decided to stick with the obvious.  (poor Jermaine...LOL)  Have you seen the footage from one of the Grammy shows where Dianna hugs Lionel Ritchie on stage and the look on MJ's face!  I could feel the jealousy and I was truly embarrassed for him!  He had to look away!  There is another one I saw where she hugs Quincy on stage (I think it was him or Barry) and he does the same thing!  I will look around and if I find them I will post them....If anyone does before me...please post!
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:07:24 PM
this song is not about a women at all :lol: its about bad spirits...
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:09:01 PM
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Quote from: "Chamone"
Great work, MKM!

About the text in Who is it, when he asks 'Is it my brother?' he doesn't need to be talking about a sibling. Jehova's Witnesses call each other brother and sister all the time, as do a lot of black people. So 'is it my brother?' Could mean that it was someone close to him, but no per se a sibling.

I have always felt that Diana is the love of his life. The way he looks at her...wow. I would give up my arm for a man looking at me like that! And not just on one occasion, no, for years he has looked at her like that!
thanks for clarifying the brother thing, I thought of that possibility as well but decided to stick with the obvious.  (poor Jermaine...LOL)  Have you seen the footage from one of the Grammy shows where Dianna hugs Lionel Ritchie on stage and the look on MJ's face!  I could feel the jealousy and I was truly embarrassed for him!  He had to look away!  There is another one I saw where she hugs Quincy on stage (I think it was him or Barry) and he does the same thing!  I will look around and if I find them I will post them....If anyone does before me...please post!

Wowsers! I don't recall seeing that kind of footage! Please, do post them if you find them!
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:29:22 PM
Muscles was written by Michael for Diana Ross - listen to the words, cute.
[YouTube]http://www.youtube.com/watch#v=SNa7kAl0t1Q&feature=related[/YouTube]
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

 

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