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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:46:15 PM
I agree, probably there was something between them. I think he loveed her and was hurt by her by marring other man.
After she relized that how much this  affected him, and how lonely he was Diana wrote one song to MJ without telling his name, but you can tell is about Michael....so sad...

[youtube:2g4c5yao]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW91BM_oARs[/youtube:2g4c5yao]

Look in the mirror, who do you see
Where is the man that you used to be
When you turn off the world and turn down the lights
Do you ever wonder who you are tonight

I knew you then, I love you now
You can call me up when it gets you down
Behind the shades there's someone real
Behind your eyes I wonder how you feel

This is me talking to you
There's just one thing I'm asking you to do

You gotta drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

No one knows what you're going through
Whatever it is, I'll be there for you
If you drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

I was there when it all began
I still remember the boy within the man
I understand what it means to run and hide
There's so much that we're holding onto deep down inside

This is me talking to you
The only thing that I want you to do

You gotta drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

No one knows what you're going through
Whatever it is, I'll be there for you
When you drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

Drop the mask
Drop the mask
Let down your guard, open your heart
Unlose your chains, don't be afraid
Drop the mask
Be yourself
Be yourself
Trust someone else
You gotta drop the mask
Let down your guard, oh you gotta drop the mask
Trust someone else
You gotta drop the mask
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
I agree, probably there was something between them. I think he loveed her and was hurt by her by marring other man.
After she relized that how much this  affected him, and how lonely he was Diana wrote one song to MJ without telling his name, but you can tell is about Michael....so sad...

[youtube:1ow3mljf]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW91BM_oARs[/youtube:1ow3mljf]

Look in the mirror, who do you see
Where is the man that you used to be
When you turn off the world and turn down the lights
Do you ever wonder who you are tonight

I knew you then, I love you now
You can call me up when it gets you down
Behind the shades there's someone real
Behind your eyes I wonder how you feel

This is me talking to you
There's just one thing I'm asking you to do

You gotta drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

No one knows what you're going through
Whatever it is, I'll be there for you
If you drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

I was there when it all began
I still remember the boy within the man
I understand what it means to run and hide
There's so much that we're holding onto deep down inside

This is me talking to you
The only thing that I want you to do

You gotta drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

No one knows what you're going through
Whatever it is, I'll be there for you
When you drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

Drop the mask
Drop the mask
Let down your guard, open your heart
Unlose your chains, don't be afraid
Drop the mask
Be yourself
Be yourself
Trust someone else
You gotta drop the mask
Let down your guard, oh you gotta drop the mask
Trust someone else
You gotta drop the mask

When did she write this song? And are you sure that she wrote it?
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Venus7

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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 08:52:13 PM
Quote from: "Chamone"
When did she write this song? And are you sure that she wrote it?

It was written by Tim Tickner, Christopher Ward, Diana Ross, realised in 1995
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:00:22 PM
Quote from: "Venus7"
Quote from: "Chamone"
When did she write this song? And are you sure that she wrote it?

It was written by Tim Tickner, Christopher Ward, Diana Ross, realised in 1995
1995, after the first allegations. Maybe he was so hurt, he alienated himself from her. He was still married to LMP in 1995, so that also could be a reason for Diana to create and sing a song like this.
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:06:47 PM
THANKS for posting that.  I could  not find it anywhere.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
I think this is around the time that Michael and Diana became distant.  It is really ashame that their friendship seemed to drift after they had been so close over all those years.  How painful it must have been for both of them.  I wonder what really happened.  I thought they were inseparable.
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"Don't stop this child, He's the father of man
Don't cross his way, He's part of the plan
I am that child, but so are you
You've just forgotten, Just lost the clue.”

MJ "Magical Child"
Still Rocking my World…
   and leaving me Speechless!

“True goodbyes are the ones never said

Venus7

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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:14:09 PM
You know what also interesting....Diana's son Evan looks little bit like MJ in 80-s. But of course is not MJ's son, he looks that way because of Diana's white husband. Evan is very handsome young man.
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:24:27 PM
WOW! That is d-e-e-p. Thanks for finding it.
It definitely answers some questions......


Quote from: "Venus7"
I agree, probably there was something between them. I think he loveed her and was hurt by her by marring other man.
After she relized that how much this  affected him, and how lonely he was Diana wrote one song to MJ without telling his name, but you can tell is about Michael....so sad...

[youtube:5dxbkyzv]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kW91BM_oARs[/youtube:5dxbkyzv]

Look in the mirror, who do you see
Where is the man that you used to be
When you turn off the world and turn down the lights
Do you ever wonder who you are tonight

I knew you then, I love you now
You can call me up when it gets you down
Behind the shades there's someone real
Behind your eyes I wonder how you feel

This is me talking to you
There's just one thing I'm asking you to do

You gotta drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

No one knows what you're going through
Whatever it is, I'll be there for you
If you drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

I was there when it all began
I still remember the boy within the man
I understand what it means to run and hide
There's so much that we're holding onto deep down inside

This is me talking to you
The only thing that I want you to do

You gotta drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

No one knows what you're going through
Whatever it is, I'll be there for you
When you drop the mask, be yourself
Drop the mask
Trust someone else

Drop the mask
Drop the mask
Let down your guard, open your heart
Unlose your chains, don't be afraid
Drop the mask
Be yourself
Be yourself
Trust someone else
You gotta drop the mask
Let down your guard, oh you gotta drop the mask
Trust someone else
You gotta drop the mask
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:35:54 PM
Yep...but there has always been the BIG question....

Evan looks like Arne Naes (sp?) but he also looks like.....

BTW - where is Diana's other son. Why are there no pics of him to be found.
Quote from: "Venus7"
You know what also interesting....Diana's son Evan looks little bit like MJ in 80-s. But of course is not MJ's son, he looks that way because of Diana's white husband. Evan is very handsome young man.
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 27, 2010, 09:48:03 PM
Quote from: "GirlSaturday"
Yep...but there has always been the BIG question....

Evan looks like Arne Naes (sp?) but he also looks like.....

BTW - where is Diana's other son. Why are there no pics of him to be found.
Quote from: "Venus7"
You know what also interesting....Diana's son Evan looks little bit like MJ in 80-s. But of course is not MJ's son, he looks that way because of Diana's white husband. Evan is very handsome young man.

Yes, Evan looks little bit like MJ in 80's, but... he looks way a lot more like his mother. He has Diana's eyes, mouth.
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 28, 2010, 12:45:36 AM
Quote from: "Chamone"
Quote from: "mykidsmum"
Quote from: "Chamone"
Great work, MKM!

About the text in Who is it, when he asks 'Is it my brother?' he doesn't need to be talking about a sibling. Jehova's Witnesses call each other brother and sister all the time, as do a lot of black people. So 'is it my brother?' Could mean that it was someone close to him, but no per se a sibling.

I have always felt that Diana is the love of his life. The way he looks at her...wow. I would give up my arm for a man looking at me like that! And not just on one occasion, no, for years he has looked at her like that!
thanks for clarifying the brother thing, I thought of that possibility as well but decided to stick with the obvious.  (poor Jermaine...LOL)  Have you seen the footage from one of the Grammy shows where Dianna hugs Lionel Ritchie on stage and the look on MJ's face!  I could feel the jealousy and I was truly embarrassed for him!  He had to look away!  There is another one I saw where she hugs Quincy on stage (I think it was him or Barry) and he does the same thing!  I will look around and if I find them I will post them....If anyone does before me...please post!

Wowsers! I don't recall seeing that kind of footage! Please, do post them if you find them!
OOOOO!!! yes ppl if you find them post !!!! i'll look a lil more now
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 28, 2010, 10:53:14 AM
Oh wow.
Haha. Umm.
You're probably right!
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 28, 2010, 11:28:05 AM
Now that you've kind of analysed these lyrics both Michael's and Diana's it makes one listen to the songs in a complete different way. It kind of makes your heart ache a bit doesn't it?  :( Some of you wanted to see some footage from the award show where Michael looks clearly upset, poor baby  :cry: , so here's a part from the 1986 AMA's where it's just obvious:

[youtube:3scwag4p]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLcv9kMpV9s[/youtube:3scwag4p]
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 28, 2010, 11:29:57 AM
Quote from: "Venus7"
You know what also interesting....Diana's son Evan looks little bit like MJ in 80-s. But of course is not MJ's son, he looks that way because of Diana's white husband. Evan is very handsome young man.


Goodness! It's crazy how similar they look though...
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Re: Why Dirty Diana is Diana Ross
February 28, 2010, 09:41:58 PM
Quote from: "alovesmichael"
Now that you've kind of analysed these lyrics both Michael's and Diana's it makes one listen to the songs in a complete different way. It kind of makes your heart ache a bit doesn't it?  :( Some of you wanted to see some footage from the award show where Michael looks clearly upset, poor baby  :cry: , so here's a part from the 1986 AMA's where it's just obvious:

[youtube:38q9gopn]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLcv9kMpV9s[/youtube:38q9gopn]
this is one of the vids I was talking about...man, he was mad!  Have you ever in your life seen MJ give Diana Ross a ONE ARMED HUG like he did in that video?  NEVER BEFORE!  Their hugs last at least 15 seconds and always involve MJ wrapping his arms around her tight....He went home and wrote Dirty Diana!  LOL
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