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I suspect that after The Wiz wrapped up, THAT'S when the "shift" in their relationship may have happened (if not, DURING). She planted the seed, by getting him to feel dependant on her (given their history). Then, used his naivety to her advantage. I'm not meaning to be insensitive. I DO think that she cared for him....to an extent, but perhaps, viewed MJ as a challenge as he got older. When the reality of the situation (his falling for her) became too much for her to deal with, she checked out (emotionally) and left him "holding the bag." I'm thinking that, after everything he went through in youth, he wanted a chance at NORMALCY and hoped that she could provide that. She "knew" him better than probably ANYONE. They spent a LOT of time together (even more-so, doing The Wiz.). It's a proven "fact" that proximity is a major factor in attraction (hence, prevalence of OFFICE "affairs").Quote# ProximityThe closer two people live to each other the more likely it is for them to like one another. Research has shown that the best single predictor of whether two people are friends is how far apart they live. This idea leads into the next one.(self-explanatory)# FamiliarityOne of the major reasons proximity creates liking is that it increases familiarity. Generally speaking, the more a person interacts with another person, the more attraction builds between them.(Years of getting to "know" each other, learning each others HABITS, etc)# SimilarityThis idea does not say that soccer players will marry soccer players. Instead, it makes claims that those interested in sports are attracted to those interested in sports. Statistics show that people who pair off do so according to similarities in race, age, religion, education, physical characteristics, and other general characteristics.They're BOTH "Celebrities"..... understand Show Business)She was his last attempt at finding LOVE, TRUST and SECURITY (in his mind) and when she "rejected" him....it was like a DAGGER to the heart.In my opinion..... I think that his androgyny could have been linked to HIS feelings of (PERCEIVED) "inadequacy." IE...he didn't feel 100% confident in his manliness (whatever THAT means). However, when he performs ONSTAGE, he becomes another person. He's able to convey CONFIDANCE, SENSUALITY, etc...In other words, he's "FREE" to be who he is!I really think that his onstage persona IS who MJ IS. You can't "fake" the expressiveness, magnetism that he obviously HAS onstage. He didn't have to "try", it just can naturally, like a weight being "lifted" off of him. HE was in "control".If you watch the making of the "Ghosts" video, WATCH the part where he's transformed into The Mayor and he's joking around with the person who was there. It's AMAZING and ironic.... he feels able to be "himself", while disguised as someone else. Watch his body language and the way he speaks, he is not guarded, cautious or anything. He's joking around and seems very comfortable in his own skin (oxymoron). In THAT context.Listen to how his voice deepens , also pay attn. to WHAT HE'S SAYING starting at 6:40 - 7:00[youtube:1gih72pg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu-_V3d2I3Q[/youtube:1gih72pg]I said all of that, to say that....Diana Ross played a major part in who MJ, became.Sorry, this has turned into "The Psychology of Michael Jackson" ......dissertation.
# ProximityThe closer two people live to each other the more likely it is for them to like one another. Research has shown that the best single predictor of whether two people are friends is how far apart they live. This idea leads into the next one.(self-explanatory)# FamiliarityOne of the major reasons proximity creates liking is that it increases familiarity. Generally speaking, the more a person interacts with another person, the more attraction builds between them.(Years of getting to "know" each other, learning each others HABITS, etc)# SimilarityThis idea does not say that soccer players will marry soccer players. Instead, it makes claims that those interested in sports are attracted to those interested in sports. Statistics show that people who pair off do so according to similarities in race, age, religion, education, physical characteristics, and other general characteristics.They're BOTH "Celebrities"..... understand Show Business)
GirlSaturday Allow me to add...she saw the potential in him and defnitely wanted "first dibs".
WOW! That is too much to take in! I've never had anyone tell me what to do like that or tell me what I am allowed to say or not to say. I'm sorry, but Michael Jackson isn't your sweet little church boy. All you need to see is the file from the trial to see his list of Porn magazines. All of them he said were his with his fingerprints on them, and the porn sites he was registered for...LOL! As for Dianna Ross being the saint that you think she is...I guess that is why she had an affair with Barry Gordy and had his LOVE CHILD while she was married....because she is a saint and never slept around. There is a recurring theme with some of his songs and I am just calling them as I see them. You want to pretend MJ is a choir boy and an angel...go right ahead, but I believe him to be more on the NORMAL side of humanity... and as a free person with a brain of my own, I have every right to post what I see without someone telling me not to. Maybe you should go watch some concert footage of MJ practically masturbating himself on stage and then come back and tell me how much of a saint he is, because the last time I looked, masturbation is pretty much a one way ticket to the hell fire in Christianity. On an end note...I will say what I want when I want...If you don't like it...I offer you this advice...DONT READ IT!
I suspect that after The Wiz wrapped up, THAT'S when the "shift" in their relationship may have happened (if not, DURING). She planted the seed, by getting him to feel dependant on her (given their history). Then, used his naivety to her advantage. I'm not meaning to be insensitive. I DO think that she cared for him....to an extent, but perhaps, viewed MJ as a challenge as he got older. When the reality of the situation (his falling for her) became too much for her to deal with, she checked out (emotionally) and left him "holding the bag." I'm thinking that, after everything he went through in youth, he wanted a chance at NORMALCY and hoped that she could provide that. She "knew" him better than probably ANYONE. They spent a LOT of time together (even more-so, doing The Wiz.). It's a proven "fact" that proximity is a major factor in attraction (hence, prevalence of OFFICE "affairs").Quote# ProximityThe closer two people live to each other the more likely it is for them to like one another. Research has shown that the best single predictor of whether two people are friends is how far apart they live. This idea leads into the next one.(self-explanatory)# FamiliarityOne of the major reasons proximity creates liking is that it increases familiarity. Generally speaking, the more a person interacts with another person, the more attraction builds between them.(Years of getting to "know" each other, learning each others HABITS, etc)# SimilarityThis idea does not say that soccer players will marry soccer players. Instead, it makes claims that those interested in sports are attracted to those interested in sports. Statistics show that people who pair off do so according to similarities in race, age, religion, education, physical characteristics, and other general characteristics.They're BOTH "Celebrities"..... understand Show Business)She was his last attempt at finding LOVE, TRUST and SECURITY (in his mind) and when she "rejected" him....it was like a DAGGER to the heart.In my opinion..... I think that his androgyny could have been linked to HIS feelings of (PERCEIVED) "inadequacy." IE...he didn't feel 100% confident in his manliness (whatever THAT means). However, when he performs ONSTAGE, he becomes another person. He's able to convey CONFIDANCE, SENSUALITY, etc...In other words, he's "FREE" to be who he is!I really think that his onstage persona IS who MJ IS. You can't "fake" the expressiveness, magnetism that he obviously HAS onstage. He didn't have to "try", it just can naturally, like a weight being "lifted" off of him. HE was in "control".If you watch the making of the "Ghosts" video, WATCH the part where he's transformed into The Mayor and he's joking around with the person who was there. It's AMAZING and ironic.... he feels able to be "himself", while disguised as someone else. Watch his body language and the way he speaks, he is not guarded, cautious or anything. He's joking around and seems very comfortable in his own skin (oxymoron). In THAT context.Listen to how his voice deepens , also pay attn. to WHAT HE'S SAYING starting at 6:40 - 7:00[youtube:2qfirxe8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nu-_V3d2I3Q[/youtube:2qfirxe8]I said all of that, to say that....Diana Ross played a major part in who MJ, became.Sorry, this has turned into "The Psychology of Michael Jackson" ......dissertation.
Hi there It's Her. Your points are well taken. I wonder if the song "Speechless" was about Diana Ross. It would be appropriate if it were. She is a terrific lady.
It's Her wrote:"I forgot to tell you which song I do think MJ wrote which could be about his feelings for Diana Ross. He tried to throw people off her trail, but I have a picture of him holding her, maybe months AFTER the song became a hit, and he's SO smitten in love with her, it HURTS (ME !!!). It is: I Just Can't Stop Loving You."It's too bad the two of them couldn't get together if he loved her that much. I think that back in the 80's it wasn't accepted for an older woman and a younger man to be together. Today it would be O.K. (look at Demi Moore and Ashton Kutcher). Michael was a pioneer in so many ways, particularly with respect to race. I wish he could have had the love he deserved.BTW, can you post that pic?It makes sense that "I Just Can't Stop Loving You" is about Diana Ross. That song was on the Off the Wall album, right at the time when he was in love with her. Now, I just know that many of his other songs were about me, of course. :lol:
Dang MJ was fine on that video clip with Diana Ross.
OMG...just found THIS! at 7:34 (she can't get her thoughts together and stumbles with her words. I think she was afraid of letting the "cat out of the bag". 7:55 the "inflection" in his voice (when he says, what he says)....SAYS IT ALL! [youtube:26ejxgv2]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dv50YxWIqkM[/youtube:26ejxgv2]
ok this is I think an interview with Eony,(a magazine?) I saw a screen shot on a youtube video or something... here is the screen shot attachedand well we are speculating kinda...but the there are things that are a bit obvious.. maybe nothing sexual happened during the Wiz or whatever...but the attraction was thereand its nothing nasty...and we are definitely not nasty for thinking this
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