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Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 06:44:46 PM
After participating in this topic; You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login I decided to focus at the cleft after a tip *Mo* gave me.

First thing I did was look for close ups of the cleft from events where we know the REAL MJ was present.
These two are taken at April 1, 2004 at the Ethiopian Embassy in Washington, DC. He was given an award for his humanitarion work. I highly doubt he would send one of his imposters there, so we can say this is MJ. Focus on the cleft;

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The cleft is quite clear.

A year later in Dubai, the cleft is the same. (And I just love how you can see that he had problems shaving that morning!  :mrgreen: ) November 14, 2005, The Dubai Desert Rally racing tournament.

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So, now we all now what the cleft from 2004-2005 real MJ looked like, right? Big leap forwards to 2009. Yup. O2 guy.

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Hm. I must say, the cleft did change in a couple of years time. So we go back in time. May 23, 2008 to be exact.
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So the cleft in 2004, 2005 and 2008 looks exactly the same. Perhaps he had it altered before the O2 appearance, it could be a possibility. This is MJ with his kids on june 3, 2009 in LA.

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Now, let's look at the pics from the topic which started this cleftwatch;
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Now. Draw your own conclusions, I am still processing all this.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 06:48:36 PM
All is Michael. No doubts.. Everyone change.. Some changes more than others.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
All is Michael. No doubts.. Everyone change.. Some changes more than others.
As I said I'm still processing, but #15 (daffa cool moof dude) -my humble opinion- is NOT MJ. The cleft is too wide. I'll comment on the other pics later.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 06:51:39 PM
I think that the last one is not MJ.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 06:51:54 PM
# 13 and 15 are Doubles #14 Skeptical #6 and 7 DOUBLE his Chin is touching floor :lol: MJs Chin isn't That Long
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:00:12 PM
All Michael.
@O2 his face was better groomed and some foundation applied on his skin, you can see it in big sized pics.
And BTW the truth is not in cleft, I would say is in his nose cavities that right and left look different and unique shape after bad surgeries, and you can see by this is all MJ
    The same thing I would say about his teeth, they are also recognizable
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:03:50 PM
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All Michael.
@O2 his face was better groomed and some foundation applied on his skin, you can see it in big sized pics.
His face was also well groomed You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login 2001, filming You Rock My World.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: "iMJacksonfaN"
All is Michael. No doubts.. Everyone change.. Some changes more than others.

I can't believe why you are in denial about this.... :?
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:20:40 PM
Well...in my opinion its hard to tell with this. i mean, anyone can have plastic surgery to make a cleft exactly like his. Also, to me, some of these seem too close together, more like a line in the chin rather than a spot.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:24:38 PM
agreed! the truth is definitely in the cleft.
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:33:04 PM
[bI agree that it is definitley all in the nose. ..because a cleft changes with time I am assuming. I truly believe that they are all MJ except for the number 15 pic! It just does not really  look like him>? :? [/b]
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:37:25 PM
Oh I see we have another "double" thread  :lol:

Seriously, I can't believe some people even THINK that O2 dude is Mike.  That guy looks NOTHING like Mike at all.  Besides the cleft there are also so many other facial differences...
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:39:08 PM
Quote from: "*Mo*"
Oh I see we have another "double" thread  :lol:

Seriously, I can't believe some people even THINK that O2 dude is Mike.  That guy looks NOTHING like Mike at all.  Besides the cleft there are also so many other facial differences...
I thought the cleft deserved is own thread. Considering how fast the other one is going!  :o
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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:43:56 PM
Hi sexy goodlooking man  :oops:  

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Re: Cleftwatch! The truth is in the cleft!
February 27, 2010, 07:48:11 PM
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Hi sexy goodlooking man  :oops:  

Ikr? :lol: :oops:
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